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Agreed on RSI...... But need some more volume to squeeze ASCM, who is trying desperately to cover, making that 02 break as difficult as they can (until a BIG catalyst drops, then it's squeezing time)...
Until then, if you watch L2 you'll see that every time a slight pause in buying hits, ASCM immediately drops to lowest ask, whacks their own bid, then drops ask further.... This is why we keep trading the same range over and over and over again... They're doing everything they can to control the ask and force idiots to sell into their bs lowball bids.... Especially when the ask breaks .019. They very quickly jump to lead bid and ask to knock us back down, so I'm guessing they need to cover under .019 or lower..
Unfortunately without a significant increase in volume, they'll control this all day, but that may give some a chance to get in and/or add cheaper...
We can thank ASCM for that. Anytime there was a slight pause in buying, they quickly undercut and dropped the ask, whacked their own bid, then dropped some more. Wash+ rinse + repeat all day.
Then in the final 10-11 minutes, they threw it into overdrive and shorted us back down to .0192 from .0197.
I would love to wake up to a massive surprise PR that squeezes ASCM into oblivion. They pull this same bs with just about every OTC ticker on the rise or spiking. The worst part is that there are a bunch of idiots who help them by selling into their bid, which helps them cover the shares they just shorted to drive the pps back down.
If we end up getting the kind of news that many believe is coming, it eventually won’t matter. But until then I expect ASCM to continue running the same shorting algo they always run, so just breaking .02 is a battle that shouldn’t be….
With that said, still a nice green day and rsi closed around 74, leaving us plenty of room to run….
Sunny I partially agree with you. I believe ENZC has tremendous value, but my concern is whether or not Charles will allow us commons to benefit from it, as we were led to believe years ago. I'm referring to not selling out to a SPAC and following through on:
Audit + SEC Reporting + Uplist + Partnerships + etc.... all under ENZC. Not sold to some SPAC where we'll end up benefitting 1/100th of what we were originally led to believe.
In other words, I'd like to see Charles actually for once, follow through on what we were fed, but I don't believe he will. I genuinly believe that he will do whatever it takes to separate that value from ENZC. I pray that he proves me wrong, but my confidence & trust in CC has diminished substantially over the past 3+ years.
Time will telll..... But like I've been saying... At this point, I see ENZC as a scratch off lotter tix. I believe 100% that they have the IP & value we all want to see, but I don't believe Charles will allow it to be realized under the ENZC umbrella.
Questions for those who have been here for a while and have done the required dd.
1. What is expected on March 28th
2. Realistically what is target pps based on upcoming catalyst, etc... and/or after what's expected on March 28th?
I saw on X somebody posted something about a $200B MC. Somebody else posted about a $70B MC. etc... Just trying to determine what is realistically expected to happen to our pps here?
??? Strange reply PS?
Not sure if you confused me with somebody else and/or why you’re send this to me? Im holding and all in for this. Not betting against Igpk and never have. Was late to party, but have only added since then…
Just an FYI…… You can get the rsi without paying. At the bottom under “Indicators,” just switch MACD or Volume to RSI, then click “Update Chart”
They still let you Choose 3 indicators for free, but the default is set at Price Performance, Volume, and MACD, so you just need to change one of them and click update chart.
Hope this helps…
It's the same pattern as I've been saying for years. That last little spike we saw over a span of a few days only touched 0.02 as a high, but it took the RSI to roughly 65, which was the reason for the spike to begin with. Each time the RSI drops down close to and/or under 30, we that same pattern. A magical few days where the PPS moves up a tiny bit, but the RSI sky-rockets out of the "danger-zone," providing that padding they need to continue driving us into the ground. Of course the silence isn't helping, but regardless, it's been the same pattern for roughly 3 years now.
On top of that pattern is of course our VIRT+OTCN tagteam, and the only reason I can think of for their actions (no buying or selling, just working in sync to drive pps down), is conversions. They're obviously doing it for a reason and are likely being paid by somebody to do it, but conversions is the only thing I can think of where a low pps is incentivized....
Oh well... Just another day in the life of an ENZC common..... Is what it is....
Have a great weekend Doc!
Mutat I've been praying that this is the case. However, I still question whether or not Charles will allow that great news and/or true value of their IP to hit under the ENZC umbrella (as we were all originally led to believe it would). I pray that he does, but my worry is that he'll immediately try to find some other SPAC or some other way to separate the value from ENZC.
Time will tell, but I pray that you are correct!
Agree 100% Mutat. Dyno and I had been talking about the share reduction ever since that first SAGA PR was dropped and Charles pulled the 180, but I with you on the "hoping he has a plan for us." And I hope that plan does not involve another attempt at a disguised rs.
On a separate note, I'm guessing that it's conversion time. Our buddies VIRT+OTCN are back at it with synced up algos driving the pps into the ground. Not buying or selling, just popping in and out at exact same millisecond to control the ask. Notice in snippets below how they both bow out at exact second the ask above them got hit. They don't want to sell or buy, which correct me if I'm mistaken, is the basis of "making a market." Still dont know how this is legal, and can't believe they're doing this at a pps under .015. It looks to me like they want to make .015 the new artificial ceiling, which would mean that sub penny is on deck. They drop the artificial ceiling in increments of .005 historically, which would make .01 the next stop.... Hard to believe that I've been holding this for 4 years, and we're trading in the .01's and still going down. Truly Unbelievable!!!
Just checking in for the first time today. Did I miss anything (not a rhetorical question)? Back in 008's?
No.... Just hopped back on a few minutes ago, but seeing that they're up to their typical games. Always in pole position #2 on the ask and the second somebody hits that first ask, they immediately disappear so they don't get hit... You can see them below under GTSM, and the second GTSM got hit, they bow out. They desperately want to keep this under .01, which is why we need some serious buying pressure to break past it and sustain it.... Also noticed their tagteam buddy OTCN is back on bid with them.
Good Morning IGPK! Well, appears that it's gonna be "one of those days."
- Our buddy VIRT is back and doing their thing. If the ask hits .092 or higher, they'll reappear to push it back under...
- Opened with another pre-market fakedown (closed yesterday at .0094 & opened us at .0092 today). Typically anytime I see this, they try to hold us under prior close and usually under the BS open all day.
- Ask is stacked under .01
With that said, I still think somebody (no Retail-Joe) is trying to accumulate under .01 and still has further to go. Also wouldn't doubt there is still some naked shorting from the run that needs covering.
Anyway, I don't think we'll sustain a pps above .01 until after the next piece of big news and/or the few days leading up to it. We need that volume/buying pressure back, and right now we just don't seem to have it. The silver lining in all of this is that I still only have a small position, so if they take this low enough, I may not be able to resist doubling or tripling up. A "Friday Surprise PR" would be pretty awesome too!
Yeah I know.... Unfortunately they are never held accountable for anything in OTC (or at least ultra rarely). Plenty of them do "make a market," but there are plenty who do anything but. For example, if any of us were to do what VIRT (& usually OTCN/OTCX) do as a tagteam, our accounts would be suspended for suspicious trading. But when they do it (no buying or selling, just popping in/out to control the pps), it's considered "making a market."
Is what it is... All part of the OTC and why I don't we'll move anywhere significant until something BIG is dropped or just before, to bring back the level of retail buying we need to combat the shenanigans to move this up....
Yeah I saw that one too, but took that one to be a flipper. When I see INTL I usually equate them to either selling or accumulating for a bigger player and/or a non-joe-retail.
For example, if you or I were to place 100 trades through whatever platform we're using, all 100 would likely go through CDEL, CSTI, ETRF, NITE, or GTSM, but highly unlikely to be facilitated by VIRT, INTL, PUMA, STXG, or ASCM. That is unless we were specifically paying one of them to handle our trades... Because of this coupled with the fact that they've been on bid a large part of the day, I believe they're accumulating for some player. But then again, there's no way to know for sure....
Like I said, anytime we get the ask back to .01, VIRT magically appears. They're on bid now, but watch and see if INTL's bid gets whacked. If it does and INTL bows out, VIRT will immediately follow without buying a single share, then the bid drops down, gets immediately whacked, and the ask-drop follows.
We need some volume to push past .01 and sustain it. I'd really love to see a surprise power hour today. That would be awesome. One of those days/times where volume comes out of nowhere at end of day, doubles the day's current volume, and pushes us up 15%+. Happens all the time in OTC, (although usually see it on Friday's) and there's no reason that it can't happen here.
Or a surprise end of day PR, that'd be pretty awesome too...
If neither of those happens today, I'd at least like to see us close at .01, but with the current lack of buying, we could be dropped closer .to a close around 091ish. Although I really hope that's not the case...
LOL... And as I type and the ask get's dropped to .098, and there goes VIRT. If we get the ask back near .01, they'll magically re-appear... They play the same damn game on every ticker.
Agreed.... "one day." And for those that will intentionally misinterpret my posts, I like seeing us green and moving up as much as anyone, but we're still trading in the .01's (maybe the .02's) which is ridiculous. I'll get excited when get back to at least 0.15-.025, but until then, I just see see these little green days as nothing more than game days, teasers, or assisting to control the chart....
Like I've been saying, it is what it is and I genuinely see this as nothing more than lottery ticket at this point. I just don't trust that Charles will allow the valuable IP to be realized under ENZC, as we were led to believe for 2-3 years; and there are no words to accurately convey how badly I hope I'm wrong
I guess I'll just keep doing what Charles & Co have taught us to do best.... Hurry up and wait some more....
LOL... I definitely missed that. I've seen VIRT do plenty of things, but "making a market" (their job) is the one thing I have yet to see them do....
Thx. I thought our open today was a bit strange. I've seen my fair share of pre-market-fakedown opens over the past 3+ years here, which have typically been used to control the chart/pad the RSI, but yesterday's RSI closed around 43. Anyway, today was the first time I've seen them open us that much (-43.8%) under prior close. That's a significant drop and I don't believe for a second that there were no bids higher than .011 at the open. Just seems odd to me since the RSI was already at 43, but then again, that's just me.... Guess we'll see what the day brings soon enough!
Seems like we're gonna need some kind of significant news/PR to hold above .01. Gonna be a battle without it.... Seeing the ask stacked under 01 immediately following the open, with 7 MM bids spread across a .0005 range is laughable. Makes me think that somebody really wants to accumulate or cover under .01. Then each time we break .01, VIRT magically appears and takes us back under.....
Hoping for some mid-day PR or a nice Friday PR tomorrow to close out the week, but I believe we need something to drive volume/buying or I think we'll remain stagnant in this .008-.0099 range until we get it....
I can finally post again on my computer. For some reason I couldn't post from my computer all day yesterday on any board. Kept taking me to an error page, even after they posted a message stating that everything was fixed....
Anyway, did I miss something over the past few days? Was anything filed, PR'd, etc... that caused us to move up? Trying to determine if we're just at that time/part of the pattern where some RSI padding is needed and/or if this slight move up is legit/sustainable?
Wow…. Hoping that BS premarket fakedown ask of .0185 (closed at .0196 yesterday) is just a fake/tease that moves up just before open.
Yup. I don't know why people place market orders. They're just asking to be taken advantage of.....
With that said, it appears we still ASCM and their shorting/covering to deal with.... In the snippet below, the ask and bid aren't actually the same. It's just an ihub L2 glitch that had GTSM stuck, so the actual ask was .ASCM at 0105 and bid was .ASCM at 0104. They'll work overtime to control the ask and push down to their bid. I'd love to see them squeezed into oblivion, along with VIRT.... That would absolutely make my day!
I hear ya 1HT and agree. However, my point was that anytime I've seen an open like Friday's, it's been intentional and 99% of the time when they do that, they work overtime to hold us several ticks under prior close all day... There were plenty of times on Friday when the asks we're knocked out and we should've moved up, but didn't. Instead those asks became bottomless and the second the buying stopped, they dropped us a few ticks.
Again, I'm not an expert on this stock, but if I had to guess, I think there may still be quite a bit of covering that needs to happen, but that's just a guess.... I'm still bullish on my small position here, but I personally know what to expect whenever I see that type of intentional fake open, regardless of the ticker. They do it on many tickers throughout the OTC....
I agree about today, but with that BS open down 19%, I knew with 100% certainty today would be rough. Anytime they do that to us at the open, it’s always the same pattern. However, at least we closed above .0082 today, which is where I expected them to close us.
We need something to bring back volume, especially now that 80M shares just went unrestricted…. Guess we’ll see what happens next week. Hoping for the start of a fun run, but if it goes the opposite way as you’re thinking, I might avg down and take a larger position….
Have a great weekend!
Good to know.... Could just several who are ultra-short and need to cover, which would make BIG news/fun-run that much better with a massive squeeze.....
Unfortunately as soon as I saw them open us 19% under yesterday's close, I knew we'd be held down all day long. I refer to those opens as "Pre-market Fakedowns," because they're intentional setups. it doesn't matter if someone had a 1M share bid in for .0102, it was already planned/worked out for that BS open. Also, whenever they do that, I've noticed that 99% of the time they never allow the pps to get back up to whatever they've deemed our artificial ceiling, which today it appeared they'd made .096ish. Usually they keep it under the BS fake open, which is why I though we were gonna close around .0082, but they didn't get us back down there before close (not for lack of trying), Is what it is. We'll see what happens on Monday.
Again, I don't know much about this stock, so I don't know if there are debt holders and/or conversions that still need to happen, but that usually one of the top reasons I would think these types of games happen. Most of the time, those debt holders get to convert at some discounted price like "50% of lowest closing bid over X number of days." So in other words, they're incentivized to push/hold it down. Again, I'm not saying that's happening here, because I literally have no idea, but they definitely pulled that bs (-19%) open for some reason, and then that BS open allowed them to basically keep us down all day.. Then anytime we inched closer, our best buddy VIRT would jump in until the inching up stopped and we were back down.....
Anyway, regardless, I'm still looking forward to Monday/next week. Hoping for the start of a fun-run........
Have a great weekend!
Just as I anticipated, the ask is back to 0092 (above 009), so of course VIRT rejoins the party with their algo that never buys nor sells, only helps to control. If we can close over 009 today, I'd consider that good, because I was expecting to see us close under .0083. Still have another 20 minutes and anything can happen in the OTC, so we shall see.....
Agreed. That was my point. We've been pushed low enough where their algo isn't needed. However, if we go back up and approach .0095-.0099, watch them reappear right on que. Pretty sure they don't want this breaking .01, so as we start approaching .0095, I'd venture to guess they'll immediately rejoin the party, but we'll have to wait and see.
With that said, based on the BS open of 18.6% lower than yesterday close (.0083), unless we get volume out of the blue or mid/late day news/PR, I'm guessing that we'll be closed somewhere around .008-.00829. Hope not, but as mentioned earlier, any time I see a fake open like we had today, we're typically closed just under that BS open. But once again, have to wait and see....
LOL.... Right on que.... There's our buddy VIRT. I knew they'd join the party at some point. Pretty sure they do everything they can to keep this from breaking above 01... As soon as they get it low enough and/or add enough padding, they disappear, but then watch them reappear the second buying starts and we approach .0095-.0099.... I'm still unsure how they get away with their algo/what they do. It is the furthest possible thing from "making a market," yet they do it all the time on many tickers.
Now I wait to see if their tag-team partner, OTCN, joins them....
LOL.... As I said yesterday, I very likely did buy too soon, but I only took a small position to start. I was worried that with my luck lately, if I had waited any longer to get in, it would've taken off somehow. Regardless and also as I stated yesterday, I'm not worried though. I still got them cheap enough where I can make some decent money. In addition, if they drive it down far enough, I'll buy more/avg down, but need to watch it for a while first and spend some time digging into dd and the company.
Anyway, point being that I'm not worried.....
Agreed. Although I find it unlikely they allow us to break above 01 today. The stacking under has already begun and now they're pushing for 008s. Again, I haven't been watching this or paying any attention to it long enough to know anything, but based on what I've experienced on other OTC tickers, anytime they open us with that BS they did today, they'll usually find a way to drive us below that open throughout the day, then close us just under it.
For example, they opened us at .0083 today (18.6% lower than yesterday close), so I don't believe a close of .008-.0082 is outside the realm of possibility. Hope not, but it's what I've grown accustomed to seeing on other tickers..... I don't know this stock well or it's CEO, but it sure would be awesome if we got some kind of mid-day bombshell news.... That would make my Friday!
Yeah, it's that fake open and VIRT that bothers me more. If we get back over .01 today and hold it (which I believe will be a challenge without more volume), I'm pretty sure we'll see VIRT join the party before we can break .011 (likely show up with .0107-.0109 ask if we get that high). However, the pattern that I've seen on other tickers is that when they open us the way they did here (18.6% lower than prior close, which is ridiculous), they typically hold us down thru hell/high-water all day. Only way to break it is with some heavy buying/volume.
However, truth be told, I haven't been here and/or watching this long enough to know that if the above will hold true here. Just basing that guess off what I've seen on other OTC tickers.... Guess we'll see soon enough.....
Yeah, but that 01 break is fake in my eyes. When they open us that way (18.6% lower than we closed yesterday) it's a clear sign to me that some games are being played to cover... There's no way that .0083 was the highest ask/bid at the open. I don't think it mattered if somebody would've had a buy order in at .01, they still would've sold them for .0083 to drop the ask, then immediately stack under .01 to hold it..... Just more OTC games....
We need something to bring that retail buying volume back and we'll be all good, but for now I think you're correct with .01 as resistance. They'll keep stacking at .01 and lower until we have some volume to combat it..... Could be a rough day here.... Figures. I finally bit the bullet and take small position, only for more OTC games.... However, if they take it low enough, I don't think I'll be able to stop myself from avg down and adding, but we shall see....
I get the feeling there is still quite a bit of covering that needs to take place, so we'll see a strong attempt to keep this under .01 all day (but that's just me). I love how they opened us almost 19% lower than we closed yesterday..... Closed at .0102 yesterday, then they open us at .0083 today? C'mon..... Tells us you're desperate to cover without telling us you're desperate to cover!
Gotta love the OTC games that never seem to end, regardless of ticker.....
The biggest challenge I see with this or any other ticker that makes the kind of move/run shown below, is that ASCM and others short it into oblivion on the way up (range circled in white), so if/when the buying slows up, they spend all day every day trying to control the bid and ask to drive it back to a pps where they can cover and make a mint in the process. When volume is low, it's very easy for their algos to accomplish. We need the stock to consolidate, but at the same time that consolidation period also helps the crooks like ASCM achieve their goal.
Anyway, we just need the buying/volume to pick back up before they push us too far back down; and I'm personally betting that we'll eventually see it. Hopefully sooner vs later....
Hey ST - I didn't know you were here too.... Good to see you here and hope all is good! I agree with you too, as I'm hoping this one takes us on another fun run. Although I don't own anywhere near the qty I did in that other one, I can still make out pretty good here if/when this goes.....
Have a great day!