Well, after watching the same recycled promises, endless “game-changing” updates, toxic financing, dilution, and shareholder destruction year after year, I think it’s finally time to say goodbye.

I genuinely wanted to believe this company would eventually turn the corner, but at some point reality matters more than hype. A new website, merger, PR campaign, or buzzwords every few months doesn’t erase the track record.

To the true believers still hanging on, I wish you luck. Hopefully one day management delivers something other than excuses and fluff. But for me, the “next big thing” story has officially run its course.

With that I bid farewell to iHub and good luck to everyone still riding this roller coaster.

Because ECOX is a scam, and the longer they keep shareholders in the dark, the longer they can keep the con going.

Every OTC bagholder says the same thing after a dump. “Healthy pullback.” “Higher lows.” “Next wave coming.” Meanwhile the company still has no meaningful revenue, no proven operations, and survives almost entirely on promotional momentum. The stock doesn’t magically become stronger because it bounced a fraction of a penny on retail hype.

What usually happens is early loaders convince themselves every dip is bullish while quietly hoping new buyers step in so they can unload shares higher. The “it’ll never see .0015 again” line is especially funny because these plays revisit lows all the time once the excitement fades and dilution catches up. A chart prediction means nothing when the underlying business still hasn’t proven it can actually execute.

Where did all the cheerleaders go? Come on gang smack that ASK, ECOX needs more bag holders.

“Exciting times ahead” is the same line DBMM shareholders have been hearing for years while the company keeps changing the story. Now it’s AI, pivots and big future plans again, but the filings still show almost no real revenue, constant losses and millions in debt. The latest 10Q literally says there’s substantial doubt about the company continuing as a going concern.

You keep hyping the website and press releases while ignoring the actual numbers. Nearly 865 million shares out, tiny revenue, ongoing dilution and surviving off financing instead of a real business. At some point these “future opportunities” need to turn into actual results.

ECOX hit that ASK hard right out of the gate. ECOX needs as many new bag holders as possible.

Some are just too stupid to help so keep loading and watch all your money disappear. You deserve it.

I do but I cant understand why you guys watch your profits disappear. This is a OTC scam not a legit company. Holding is a recipe for disaster.

As you sit and watch your profits dwindle away waiting on a disclosure that will only show increased debt and 0 revenue.

Great stradegy

Again this is a shell company. They have nothing to report other than debt. You are counting on debt to raise the price?

LOL that's what you guys are waiting for the 10Q? What do you think is going to be in a Q from a shell company?

Complete fools here tangled in a pump and dump watching their money disappear.

2 shell companies run by know OTC fraudsters doing a reverse merger that carries 1 million in toxic debt.

Load up fools!

The irony here is incredible. You’re lecturing people about trading while defending a company that survives almost entirely on press releases, dilution, and recycled promises. The only reason guys like you get emotional when people criticize the stock is because you need fresh buyers to unload your own shares onto. That’s the entire OTC scam cycle. Hype the story, shame anyone asking questions, then act offended when somebody points out the fundamentals are garbage.

Nobody is “wishing people the worst.” Pointing out toxic dilution, nonexistent revenue, endless fluff PRs, and years of failed execution is called due diligence. The real problem is naive traders come in believing posts from self proclaimed experts who never discuss the actual filings because the filings destroy the fantasy. If this company was legitimate, nobody would need to attack critics personally or flex portfolio sizes to defend it. The stock and financials would speak for themselves. They don’t.

The entire ECOX merger story is built almost entirely on projections, buzzwords, and future promises with virtually no proven operating business behind it yet. They are selling a “Sustainable Aviation Fuel” narrative tied to Kepler GTL technology, but there is still no meaningful commercial revenue, no operational fuel production, and no proof the technology can scale profitably in the real world. Most of the announcements have been promotional press releases about trademarks, future exchange listings, name changes, government related meetings, and “strategic positioning” instead of actual business execution.

The company openly admitted it inherited roughly $1 million in legacy convertible debt and has already gone through balance sheet restructuring tied to prior financing arrangements. The merger itself was completed through a reverse merger and super voting preferred shares transferred control of the company to the new group. That structure alone creates major dilution and control concerns for common shareholders. They are also pushing a Frankfurt dual listing and SEC registration narrative despite not yet completing PCAOB audits or becoming fully reporting. Nearly every release is loaded with forward looking statements and disclaimers about risks, financing uncertainty, regulatory hurdles, commercialization risk, and the possibility the entire plan may never materialize.

At this point shareholders are essentially buying into a concept and a stream of PRs rather than a proven business. The company has changed names, symbols, branding, corporate direction, and leadership focus multiple times while still lacking meaningful operational results. A lot of the merger hype appears centered around attracting speculative buying interest instead of demonstrating hard numbers, contracts, production capacity, or audited financial performance.

Save your money, the hype surrounding this scam has died.

Poo, is DBMM ever going to turn things around or is this really the best they have to offer after more than 20 years? At what point do shareholders admit this company has been a complete failure and enough is enough?

Great job watching those profits disappear rookie

Just keep holding as your profits dwindle away. That's the norm for you rookie traders.

"Phase 2" of a prototype build means you are still in a laboratory, not a market. Boasting about a 1000% gain when the stock is still sitting under a penny just means it moved from practically invisible to slightly visible. With 9 billion outstanding shares floating around, that upcoming "huge run" is going to need a lot more than emojis to move the needle. Sit and learn how share structure works!

Please continue to buy and hold. You deserve the loss.

Well a good trader would have sold at .0029 and not rode it back down losing profits. But sure if you want to add more at .0028 when you can get them at .0025 or lower have at it. Im sure someone will be more than happy to sell you their shares.

It has a much better chance of going to .0003 next week.

Oh and so much for that slow day of trading. 167 million now and the 10 day average is 199 million. Looks like you will have to come up with a new excuse why its failing

So 133 million shares traded is a slow day of trading with 3 more hours of trading left.? LOL I guess it would be for this scam since it has a 12 billion A/S with over 9 billion O/S

Load up that boat before it sinks to the bottom like the titanic.

Doesn't appear the fluff news is helping the hype for the pump. Bag holders better hope they put some verifiable numbers out really soon. Unfortunately for anyone who bought this garbage "they wont".

You keep repeating the same strawman because you cannot address the actual point. Nobody said early investors are automatically responsible for later investors losing money. The issue is when people knowingly promote garbage while ignoring dilution, toxic financing, fake projections, and fluff PRs just to keep volume flowing.

“Go change the rules” is another weak argument because the rules already exist. Securities fraud laws already exist. SEC enforcement already exists. Market manipulation rules already exist. Pretending none of that matters because “people choose to buy” is absurd.

And the “you must have lost money” line is usually what people say when they run out of facts. Criticizing a company’s filings, dilution, or business practices does not mean someone lost money. Sometimes it just means they actually read the filings instead of cheerleading every press release.

No, it proves you either cannot or will not distinguish between normal investment risk and manipulation. Nobody is saying investors should not do DD or accept risk. The point is that promoters and insiders should not be misleading people while dumping shares into manufactured hype. That is why fraud statutes and SEC enforcement exist.

By your logic, every pump and dump is perfectly fine because “buyers should have known better.” That argument falls apart instantly because the market already recognizes there is a difference between business failure and intentional deception.

And telling people they are embarrassing themselves while defending toxic dilution and fluff PRs is pretty ironic.

Nobody is saying people are not responsible for their own investing. The issue is when insiders, promoters, and early loaders knowingly dump inflated garbage on retail while pretending the company has real fundamentals. That is not “smart investing,” that is the entire reason securities laws and anti fraud regulations exist in the first place.

Your Nasdaq comparison is laughable because legitimate companies can fail without being scams. A biotech failing a drug trial is not the same thing as a diluted OTC shell putting out fluffy PRs while toxic debt converts hammer the float every week. One is business risk. The other is manufactured hype designed to create liquidity for share sellers.

And spare everyone the “welcome to China” nonsense. Wanting transparency and accountability in the market is not socialism. It is literally the foundation of functioning capital markets. If your only defense of a stock is “well nobody forced you to buy it,” then you already admitted the company itself has no real defense.

This entire “update” is basically a masterclass in saying absolutely nothing while trying to sound important enough to attract new buyers. Strip away the buzzwords like SAF, energy resilience, aviation security, strategic alignment, Frankfurt listing, and government discussions, and what do shareholders actually have? No revenue. No contracts. No production facility. No customers. No signed airline agreements. No military deals. No finalized acquisition. No audited financials. No SEC registration. No completed symbol change. No completed uplist. No operational fuel output whatsoever.

The company spent paragraphs talking about attending meetings in Washington and “engaging stakeholders” like that somehow creates shareholder value. Networking events and conversations are not business execution. Then they padded the PR with a generic SAF industry report that literally any company could copy from public IATA data just to attach themselves to a hot sector. That is promotional fluff designed to create excitement around the industry instead of proving this company itself has accomplished anything.

Even the so called “corporate progress” is mostly unfinished paperwork. They are “working through” FINRA comments, “intending” to move to Texas, “proposing” a Frankfurt listing, “advancing” an audit, and “preparing” a Form 10. Everything is future tense because there is almost nothing concrete in the present. Meanwhile they quietly admit there were roughly $1 million in legacy convertible notes needing restructuring, which is usually the real OTC story hiding underneath all the glossy energy transition language.

This reads less like an operational update and more like a stock promotion checklist designed to keep retail investors emotionally invested in a dream narrative long enough to support volume and liquidity. The company is selling a vision of what it hopes to become someday while carefully avoiding hard numbers that would allow investors to evaluate what it actually is today.

Imagine bragging that you made money because less informed people bought into a known scam after you did. That is not investing skill and it is not some badge of intelligence. By your own admission the failure rate is 90%, the company is “garbage” and “worthless,” but somehow the moral victory is dumping shares on people lower in the pyramid before the music stops?

You are not disproving the criticism. You are confirming it. A stock running from .0002 to .0027 does not magically validate the business underneath it. OTC history is full of temporary pumps that created paper millionaires right before crushing late buyers holding billions of diluted shares. Saying “we are here to make money” is fine. Pretending that profiting off hype and unloading risk onto unsuspecting retail traders is some great intellectual achievement is where the argument falls apart.

And the arrogance is the funniest part. Calling people stupid because they refuse to gamble on a company with a 90% failure rate is backwards. The people warning others about dilution, toxic financing, and unrealistic penny dreams are usually the only ones talking about fundamentals while everyone else is busy calculating fantasy gains at “a penny.” Every OTC board sounds genius during the run up. The real test comes after the dilution hits, volume dries up, and the same people laughing today disappear without a trace while new bagholders are left asking what happened.

BUYER BEWARE !!! THIS STOCK HAS BEEN FRONT LOADED!!!

Know pump and dumpers like wolf are looking for sheep to dump his worthless shares on.

Watch for heavy selling today as the pump crew unloads their shares on the naive.

ECOX (Eco Innovation Group) follows a well-documented pattern of OTC shell manipulation led by Richard Hawkins, a serial penny stock promoter with a verified history of failed shell pivots. Hawkins previously co-controlled companies with Justin Costello a convicted securities fraudster who pleaded guilty to wire and securities fraud in 2023 through their shared entity Manufacturing 360, LLC. Hawkins himself is named in an Alaska civil lawsuit alleging fraudulent inducement, breach of fiduciary duty, and violations of the Alaska Securities Act. Every company under Hawkins' control has followed the same formula: acquire a failing OTC shell through super-voting preferred shares, rebrand into a trendy industry, flood the market with press releases, and produce zero verifiable revenue.

The Kepler GTL merger raises its own serious red flags. Kepler's CEO, Brent Nelson, was simultaneously pitching a completely different "Kepler" company Kepler Fusion Technologies to Hawkins' prior shell (RNWF), promising a working 100-megawatt fusion reactor by end of 2026. When that deal fell apart, the fusion story was quietly abandoned and the exact same team reappeared weeks later as "Kepler GTL," now pitching gas-to-liquids fuel technology to ECOX instead. The company issued press releases claiming active supply discussions with American Airlines, Lufthansa, Emirates, and Virgin Atlantic none of which have issued any corresponding confirmation. With no audited financials, no completed Form 10, no verified working technology, and a management team tied to both a convicted fraudster and an unexplained pivot from fusion energy to jet fuel, ECOX carries every hallmark of a pump-and-dump scheme.

Sounds like a bunch of scared promoters here afraid of the truth. LMAO at you gullible sheep falling for this scam. Load up

🚩 Major Red Flag: Brent Nelson's Kepler "Pivot"

This is the most damning thing the research turned up. Brent Nelson was **simultaneously** involved with two completely different "Kepler" companies merged into two different Hawkins-linked OTC shells and they completely switched direction between them.

**With RNWF (Renewal Fuels / Hawkins' prior shell):** Kepler Fusion Technologies was claiming a fully operational 100-megawatt fusion power unit would be grid-ready by end of 2026, and touting engagements with DoD, NASA, and state energy agencies.

**Then with ECOX just weeks later:** The same Brent Nelson, but now it's "Kepler GTL Technologies" a completely different company focused on gas-to-liquids fuel, not fusion. The fusion story was abandoned and replaced wholesale.

This is a documented bait-and-switch. Kepler went from miraculous fusion energy to GTL fuel production between the RNWF deal falling through and the ECOX deal closing.

Airline "Discussions" Claim — Unverifiable

ECOX put out a press release claiming Kepler GTL had initiated discussions with American Airlines, Virgin Atlantic, Lufthansa, Emirates, and British Airways for SAF supply. There is zero independent confirmation from any of those airlines. No airline has issued a corresponding statement. This is a classic penny stock pump tactic name-dropping major brands without binding agreements.

What's Real About the GTL Technology

GTL (gas-to-liquids) technology does genuinely exist Shell, Sasol, and others use it at industrial scale. Kepler GTL's website describes a modular, self-sufficient design that converts stranded gas or coal into jet fuel and diesel. The technology concept is real in principle. But there is no independent verification that Kepler GTL has a working plant, paying customers, or any revenue.

What's Different vs. Prior Hawkins Shells

Two things are at least structurally different here compared to Hempstract or Renewal Fuels: the PCAOB audit and Form 10 filing process is underway (which would create real SEC-level disclosure), and Hawkins appears to have relinquished operating control to Nelson's team post-merger. Whether that matters depends on whether Nelson is legitimate or another promoter.

The pattern fits Hawkins' established playbook precisely acquire shell, reverse merge a hyped pre-revenue tech company, rebrand, issue press releases naming major potential partners, stock spikes. The Kepler "pivot" from fusion energy to GTL between two different shells in the span of a few months is a serious credibility problem that no legitimate technology company would have. Until audited financials, a completed Form 10, and independently verified working technology appear, the evidence strongly favors this being another iteration of the same scheme.

Here's the full verified picture of Richard Hawkins' OTC company trail:

## Verified Shell Company / OTC History

**The Pattern: Serial Reverse Mergers & Pivots**

**1. Riverdale Oil & Gas (RVDO) ? Hempstract (HPST) — 2020**
On August 6, 2020, the then-sole officer and director of the company resigned and appointed Richard Hawkins as sole director, president, secretary, and treasurer, after Manufacturing 360, LLC acquired the controlling preferred stock — representing 60% of all voting rights — via a stock purchase agreement.

Hawkins then rebranded the company from Riverdale Oil & Gas (RVDO) to Hempstract Inc. (HPST) in November 2020, pivoting from oil & gas into CBD hemp. The stock had previously traded as low as $0.004 and spiked to $2.17 before collapsing.

At the time of the pivot, the company had no branded products, zero revenue, and reported losses of $700K in 2020.

**2. Justin Costello Connection**
Manufacturing 360, LLC — the entity used to seize voting control of these companies — lists both Justin Costello and Richard Hawkins as officers, with Costello as governor and Hawkins as registered agent.

Costello was subsequently charged by the DOJ on multiple counts of securities fraud and wire fraud, pled guilty in 2023, and was convicted. The SEC also entered a final civil judgment against him in 2023.

The SEC alleged Costello used a false persona — posing as a Harvard-educated military veteran and hedge fund billionaire — to defraud investors out of millions, and ran pump-and-dump schemes across multiple microcap penny stocks.

Hawkins served as CEO while Costello was chairman at Hempstract. Hawkins officially announced Costello's resignation as chairman in May 2021.

**3. Renewal Fuels (RNWF) — 2025**
Hawkins then surfaced as CEO of Renewal Fuels (OTC: RNWF), another penny stock, where a fabricated public offering press release circulated on social media, coinciding with a 47% price surge on shares trading at $0.05.

**4. ECOX (Eco Innovation Group) — 2025–Present**
His current role, acquired the same way as before — purchasing preferred super-voting shares to take control.

## The Documented Pattern

Every company follows the same playbook: acquire a failing OTC shell via super-voting preferred shares ? install as CEO ? rebrand ? announce exciting new industry (oil?CBD?fusion energy?SAF fuel) ? issue press releases ? stock spikes ? pivot or abandon. None of the companies produced meaningful revenue.

The direct business partnership with Justin Costello — a **convicted securities fraudster** — through their shared entity Manufacturing 360, LLC is the most significant verified red flag in the record.

Alaska Civil Lawsuit (Case 3PA-22-01535)
A lawsuit was filed in Alaska court against Richard Hawkins. The cause of action is formally stated as: "fraudulent inducement, breaches of contract, good faith & fair dealing, fiduciary duty, consumer protection violation(s), Alaska Securities Act violation(s)." This is a civil suit, not a criminal conviction. InvestorsHub
How He Took Control of ECOX

Hawkins became CEO when he purchased 30,000,000 shares of Preferred Class A stock from the former CEO, Julia A. Otey-Raudes, via a Securities Purchase Agreement dated March 31, 2025. Upon that purchase, Otey-Raudes resigned all positions and Hawkins was appointed CEO, Director, and Chairman of the Board.

Obviously you don't want to hear the truth about this scam because its detrimental to you being able to con others into buying this garbage.

A real investor "NOT YOU" would do their due diligence and know all these people are involved with this fake merger between 2 shell companies with 0 revenue.

The investigation into the financial ties between Robert Hymers (of Pinnacle Consulting Services) and the current ECOX/Kepler GTL management reveals a complex history of regulatory actions and legal scrutiny that are common points of concern for investors.

## 1. Robert Hymers' Professional Background & Pinnacle Tax Services
Robert L. Hymers III is a licensed CPA in California and the managing partner of Pinnacle Tax Services and Pinnacle Consulting Services.

* The "Specialist" Label: Hymers is known for specializing in tax compliance for small businesses and the cannabis industry, often positioning himself as an expert in finding "loop holes" for clients.

* Regulatory Discipline: The [California Board of Accountancy (CBA)](https://www.dca.ca.gov/cba/consumers/actions.shtml?license_id=CPA%20102259) has taken multiple disciplinary actions against Hymers. In 2013, his license was revoked, though the revocation was stayed with a five-year probation period. As part of a 2019 settlement, he was permanently prohibited from performing audits, reviews, or other attestation engagements while on probation.

* Ongoing Investigations: As of August 2024, a law firm, Smith & Associates, announced an independent investigation into Hymers and his team for allegedly preparing thousands of inaccurate tax returns over the last decade.

## 2. The Justin Costello and "Microcap" Connection
A major red flag for many researchers is Hymers' documented connection to [Justin Costello](https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/former-bellevue-washington-resident-sentenced-12-years-prison-securities-fraud), who was sentenced to 12 years in prison in 2023 for a $35 million securities fraud involving penny stock shells.

* Microcap Advisors: Hymers worked alongside Costello at Microcap Advisors, where they facilitated "reverse mergers" to take private companies public via OTC shells.

* Repeat Shell Strategy: Hymers has served in executive roles (like CEO or CFO) for various OTC companies, including Everlert and Global Hemp Group (GBHPF). This "serial executive" role in speculative microcap companies is a primary reason for the scrutiny surrounding his involvement with the ECOX merger.

## 3. Ties to ECOX and Kepler GTL
While Richard Hawkins is the CEO of [Eco Innovation Group (ECOX)](https://www.morningstar.com/news/accesswire/1144313msn/eco-innovation-group-inc-ecox-announces-signing-of-definitive-agreements-with-kepler-gtl-to-establish-public-company-platform-for-gas-to-liquids-technology), Hymers' firm, Pinnacle Consulting, has historically provided the necessary accounting and filing support for the public shells Hawkins manages.

* Reverse Merger Facilitation: The merger between [Kepler GTL and ECOX](https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/eco-innovation-group-inc-ecox-announces-signing-definitive-agreements-kepler-gtl) in early 2026 follows the classic "reverse merger" playbook that Hymers and his associates have used for years.

* Audit Independence: Because Hymers is barred from performing independent audits himself, the company must hire third-party firms for its financial reporting. The current delay in ECOX's "two-year independent audit" to reach SEC reporting status is a significant point of concern for those tracking Hymers' history with delayed or inaccurate filings.

The primary "scam" concern raised by critics is not that the technology (GTL) is inherently fake, but that the corporate structure (managed by a "serial shell-hustler" with a history of disciplinary actions) is designed to profit from stock promotion rather than fuel production.

Below is a breakdown of the individuals and entities you've highlighted, grounded in public record and recent corporate filings.

## 1. Richard Hawkins: A History of Legal Scrutiny
Richard Hawkins, the current CEO of Eco Innovation Group (ECOX), has a long and documented history with the SEC and the Department of Justice (DOJ):

* McKesson Accounting Fraud: In 1999, as CFO of McKesson HBOC, Hawkins was charged by the [SEC](https://www.sec.gov/enforcement-litigation/litigation-releases/lr-18649) with violating antifraud and books-and-records provisions in a massive accounting scheme. While he was later [acquitted of criminal charges](https://www.nera.com/experience/2000/united-states-of-america-v-richard-hawkins.html) in 2005, the civil charges and the magnitude of the fraud at McKesson remain a significant part of his professional record.

* Tax-Fraud Allegations: The DOJ previously filed a complaint against a Richard Hawkins for allegedly organizing and selling tax-fraud schemes that made false statements regarding tax consequences.

## 2. The Justin Costello Connection
The reference to Justin Costello is notable because Costello was sentenced in May 2023 to [12 years in federal prison](https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/former-bellevue-washington-resident-sentenced-12-years-prison-securities-fraud) for a $35 million fraud involving shell companies and penny stocks.

* The "Club Fed" Association: Costello specialized in taking over dormant public shells (like GRN Holding and Hempstract Inc.) and using false press releases to "pump" their value.

* The Shell Game: The pattern of a "serial shell-hustler" using reverse mergers to inject speculative, unproven technology into a public company matches the current structure of ECOX and Kepler GTL.

## 3. Kepler GTL & Brent Nelson's "Serial" Ventures
Brent Nelson, CEO of Kepler GTL, has a track record of promoting disparate "disruptive" technologies through various OTC entities:

* Multiple Pivots: Nelson was previously pushing Kepler Fusion Technologies through a company called Renewal Fuels Inc. (RNWF). Just as that venture failed to commercialize, he pivoted to Kepler GTL and merged it with ECOX.

* Unverified Tech: Both the fusion and GTL ventures make astronomical claims—such as a single facility producing 120 million gallons of fuel—despite being entirely pre-revenue.

## 4. ECOX: The "Perfectly Timed" Pump?
As of May 2026, ECOX has exhibited several classic [pump-and-dump](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_and_dump) indicators:

* Reverse Merger Strategy: Using a reverse merger with ECOX allowed Kepler GTL to bypass the scrutiny of a traditional IPO.

* Constant Promotion: The company maintains a high volume of paid and voluntary press releases through platforms like [Stock2Me](

You really need to do some DD before making such a fool of yourself. The 2 companies are AFFILIATES not sisters.

The claim that companies with a shared owner are "sisters" by law is a bit of a myth; while people use that term in casual conversation, the SEC and corporate law actually call them affiliates. Just because one person owns two businesses doesn't automatically mean the law treats them as a matched pair; the SEC looks at "facts and circumstances" to see if the owner actually directs the daily management of both. Legally, they remain separate "persons" with their own responsibilities. The only place "brother-sister" is a strict rule is in tax law, and even then, it only kicks in if a small group of people owns a very high percentage usually 80% or more of both companies

A well known scammer