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Yep, but they showed me (us) some money too. We'll see where this goes.
Update? Show me the money!!!
Are you blind? Best to load the boat, the rocket is ready to head to the stratosphere, if it don't blow up first. :)
I've fallen and can't reach my beer!
ltg, :), I know you can't help it. And ya know, that's fine by me.
As for it being the end, I'm not there yet. I've stated this way in the past too, for some reason this company still keeps going. I have no idea how he does it and at this point don't care. All I know is that the fat lady hasn't sung yet.
Despite the 2018 year going by with nothing, I still hold out some glimmer of optimism that Gorgal's effort as reported in the Nov 2017 PR has some merit to it. Being in the software world for way too many years, I know from experience that these things can take quite some time to complete.
I'll step out of the dog house just another moment here. Two things - "usually" and I certainly would not typically debate that point. I've been around these penny messes way too long. Maybe it is my time as a developer of software designed for testers at a DoD lab that sits in my gut that tells me that this is not a "usually" occasion. I've mentioned this gut feeling before as well as stating that this is nothing but a crap shoot or gambling at best. I will emphatically state that I have never been around a penny for this long but I still hold my original grub stake taken way too long ago.
The second is "...are getting worse...". Considering the filings (go figure why the last two were filed early) I'm not sure just how things can get worse, consequently, things can only go up from here and guess what, no major EOY tax selling (appearances can be deceiving though) and the price is climbing albeit on low volume. BTW, I'm in the green on average.
One last comment although addressed in my first paragraph, "... investment in stocks...", this is not an investment, I did not mortgage the farm to be here and I've already rolled the dice. I'll simply wait to see what shows up. I won't be on the street if it comes up snake eyes.
History is always a fact, no problem there and it is easy to make some comments on it. The issue is the future and regardless of whether one is negative or positive on whatever it is that VLDI is doing these days, it is all just a best guess.
Time to head back to the dog house.
Come on BICX, so far, a not so much of a Happy New Year!! Show me the money!!
That's a rather wild accusation there Willy.
There is nothing there to say that it may not happen at some point in time. One cannot put a specific time period on the term "...won't be long."
Happy New Year to everyone here.
The only thing that matters at this very moment is the big flush that is apparent in today's price action. I can buy off on the tax selling aspect but if this cannot recover somewhat after the 1st, well, we could be in deep doo doo.
Yeah, yeah, that last line is why I stuck my toes back into the murky waters of BICX.
Do they have any money? Whoops............
Nice dump at EOD. Geeze.................
I usually go on Friday to avoid the weekend rush. :)
Pumpers gonna get coal this year for not doing their job. BioCorRx needs to fire them and get some new ones.
Come on pumpers, you did all that work for an interview PR? Get to work here.
Sure wish the pumpers would get this mess moving upward. At least it appears like we can anticipate something good coming this way.
:) Maybe it's in the interview. A whole whopping 100K+ in volume. No dime coming with that effort.
Time to see the money. That's what everyone wants to see. Talk is cheap.
Much better. Today could even make the chart look good. :)
I keep forgetting when they will show me the money from any of those adventures. I give them credit for trying and keeping this mess going but at the moment I do hope that movement is forward and upward but if not, well, some things never change.
Politicians could care less, they only spend OPM. Big money tells them what to "see". So, didn't some entity recently plunk down a chunk of change at .20 or betting that it gets to that price?
My old-timer's disease is setting in and I don't pay as much attention to this since my complete exit between .14 and .30. Yes, I now have a speculative stake here but that is all that it is.
I'm still taking a crap shoot at it. Who knows.....
You will also need to consider those sitting on gains elsewhere for the year who may wish to dump BICX purchased north of this current price for tax losses. That will only accelerate the current downward momentum in price if the company cannot put out anything of a positive nature in Dec. JMHO.
I'm going to need a drink before too long. :)
Not looking good, that's for sure.
Wow, I guess I jumped the gun a bit too early. Oh well, looks like BICX!! Come on now, time for some grant money!!
Indeed, I have stuck my toes back into the BICX waters. We'll see where this adventure goes.
No regrets because I made money on this one. I was around way too long here and much of what I had was in the .01 - .02 range. Sold a bunch at .14 and a bunch at .30 way back on that last run up. Clearly I'm still hanging around watching as I think the potential is still there. Not sure what will tempt me back in at this point. If I miss another run, so be it. This was a good play for me.
I'm still watching? That's a positive.... :):):) My mustang still runs and that's definitely positive.
Yep, and my '69 sits in the garage. While it is registered, inspected and quite fun to drive, I must say I had been looking forward to a complete do-over for it. Not from BICX for sure.
Hey Kiz, here's my thoughts: SHOW ME THE MONEY!! :):)
So yes indeed, I still watch this mess to see how it will eventually unfold. The recent overpriced investment was nice to see but still nothing to show. Frankly I'm surprised this has held around .10. I'm watching and we'll see where the price is as the end of the year approaches.
I appreciate your efforts at creating dialog for VLDI. I don't post much but do come here to read once in a while. Regrettably there is rarely anything new to cover. I'll be retreating to the doghouse again. It's been fun.
Yes, there is the chance that you are wrong and there is just as much a chance that VLDI goes to zero. I don't think most here refute the historical aspects of VLDI. This is a sub-penny, SPECULATIVE and very RISKY play. That's the whole FUN of playing this game!!
How each individual plays this game is up to them. How many times have you seen me state way in the past, on this very board, that this is just a crap shoot?
You can continue to bring up the historical aspects, but Gorgal's successful testing leads me to believe that my odds of winning are becoming a bit better than the house's. I'm betting on a roll of the dice in the future, past rolls mean nothing, they've already been played, they're done and over with no matter how many times the film is rewound.
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I learned a long time ago in the stock market to always expect the unexpected. Also if something does not make sense it is usually time to get out.
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Agree, but here again, Gorgal's successful testing of VP makes sense. I just cannot bring myself to believe that was for nothing and yet, I could be very wrong but this testing is why I've decided to stay in this thing for as long as it takes, way out of my "normal" thinking for penny stocks which I stated.
I don't know where VLDI's price may go, I can't even begin to guesstimate such a thing. I just believe that the odds are beginning to turn away from the house and into my favor. I'll continue to let my bet ride for the time being.
From my past experience and familiarity with IT cybersecurity issues, IF this thing does turn out to be a winner, it could be extraordinary. Relational databases were "radical" in their day, just some college professor's wet dream on how to do things, yet Oracle, Microsoft and a host of others have profited rather well on relational theory. VP, with its "radical" technology may, just may go down the same road to glory.
I'm sure that Bruce was very disappointed when the bank did not select VP but my guess is that the rational has already been explained: new radical product, didn't want to be the first to try and the security chief certainly wasn't going for it because it was not devised by his team. If I had to guess, I'd suspect that these and undoubtedly other reasons are why VP is not yet in commercial use. No one wants to go first with something that they cannot definitively see already working in the real world.
In my career I've been privy to more meetings than I care to think about with vendors clamoring about how great their product is. Many (way too many) moons ago I recall Oracle (a startup at the time, imagine that) working to convince the Navy to use its relational database. My group was totally against it: too new, untried, not invented here, etc. Sound familiar? Here's the real kicker, we offered to set up our database and the application we were working on and set up a matching Oracle database and compare performance. They wouldn't do it. Why? Maybe they thought they would lose the performance race and didn't want to look bad. Despite what I perceived as a failure, the Navy got on board the Oracle train and the rest they say, is history.
It took years and years but today, we know that Oracle is a multi-billion dollar company with a product that still to this day, I think stinks. IMO, they failed at our site and IMO lost the battle at that time yet still won the war. Who is to say that VLDI can't do the same despite past failures or rejections? Oracle kept going despite what were, IMO, failures. You keep pressing the past but I can point out what I perceive to be other vendor failures and yet despite them, they have gone on to be quite successful. And yes, some have never been heard from again.
Gorgal's testing proved, at least to me, that there is some benefit to VP. I don't buy into a bunch of what goes on here, it can be entertaining though, but I do believe that there is a place for VP as a part of the defense of company or government data. Whether Benn can prove and sell it remains another issue but here again, Gorgal's successful testing should go a long way to convince some entity somewhere (referencing his clients here) to take a long hard look at VP.
Some day, I speculate that VP will come into its own and be utilized. My past experience has told me that this would be an arduous and lengthy adventure filled with many disappointments. I've even indicated where I do some current work on this board quite some time ago. It is a well recognized DoD entity. This background has kept me in VLDI (4+ years) despite the length of time this has taken or its perceived failures. This is not my "normal" behavior for penny stocks but for this one, I've made an exception and continue to just sit and wait.
I certainly don't know when something positive will happen. Who does, but at some point in time I doubt that VLDI will be sub-penny and for those who keep this company afloat, they just might get well rewarded for their perseverance. I'll continue to go along for the ride to hero or zero. If hero, wonderful, if zero, I won't be living in a cardboard box.
Last I knew, no one speculates on history. Most speculate on what they believe the future will hold. I'm still hanging in there on Gorgal as I continue to believe that he did not do that testing just for the sake of doing some testing. He did it for a reason, maybe one of his clients, and I believe that one of these days VLDI will actually be put to use in a commercial environment.
As for the length of time between Nov 2017 and now, these things do take a very long period of time to negotiate especially when it comes to something as radically different as VP. And if Gorgal tested for 9 months, any entity considering VP is also going to spend a bunch of time testing.
If you are the chief security officer the "not invented here" syndrome (I've been in IT for 30+ years, I've seen it a lot) is huge considering it might mean your cushy 6 figure salary. You are certainly not going to advocate for VP but will go to the board for a request for funds to solve the problem in house. This could go on for quite some time or until the board is tired of continuously funding a security operation while being dragged into court on various lawsuits due to data loss or simply suffering losses due to bad PR. I suspect most businesses do not come out publicly to indicate a hack until they are forced to do so.
I've mentioned on this board in the past regarding the fact that however they do it, VLDI does manage to continuously come up with the funds necessary to stay in business. For how much longer is anyone's guess but as stated, I'm still waiting.
SHOW ME THE MONEY!! :):)
I loaded my imaginary boat with imaginary shares and it imaginary sank..... :(
Oh NO!!! I sold the boat, now what?
Some of us do, but not for anything from 2014 or before or even through most of 2017 up to the PR in Nov regarding Gorgal. Now, one can say many months later there is nothing yet to show for that, but having been in IT for 30+ years, I can tell you that the "not invented here" syndrome runs deep within organizations. If you are a security manager, the last thing you need is some outside vendor telling you that you still haven't fixed the problem 100% when your BOD is definitely expecting that you have fixed it.
It could take a very long time between Gorgal's successful testing and the ability to convince even one entity to use the product. I'll give it at least the year before I push myself to truly evaluate this again.
I dunno, I just looked out my office window and all I see is blue sky.