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when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957. The Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) was converting to the dry intaglio printing process. During this conversion, it gradually included IN GOD WE TRUST in the back design of all classes and denominations of currency.
As a part of a comprehensive modernization program the BEP successfully developed and installed new high-speed rotary intaglio printing presses in 1957. These allowed BEP to print currency by the dry intaglio process, 32 notes to the sheet. One-dollar silver certificates were the first denomination printed on the new high-speed presses. They included IN GOD WE TRUST as part of the reverse design as BEP adopted new dies according to the law. The motto also appeared on one-dollar silver certificates of the 1957-A and 1957-B series.
BEP prints United States paper currency by an intaglio Finish..
process from engraved plates. It was necessary, therefore, to engrave the motto into the printing plates as a part of the basic engraved design to give it the prominence it deserved.
One-dollar silver certificates series 1935, 1935-A, 1935-B, 1935-C, 1935-D, 1935-E, 1935-F, 1935-G, and 1935-H were all printed on the older flat-bed presses by the wet intaglio process. P.L. 84-140 recognized that an enormous expense would be associated with immediately replacing the costly printing plates. The law allowed BEP to gradually convert to the inclusion of IN GOD WE TRUST on the currency. Accordingly, the motto is not found on series 1935-E and 1935-F one-dollar notes. By September 1961, IN GOD WE TRUST had been added to the back design of the Series 1935-G notes. Some early printings of this series do not bear the motto. IN GOD WE TRUST appears on all series 1935-H one-dollar silver certificates.
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml
'ergo sum' you deny the proof I laid out for you?
How is Lincoln proclaiming a national day of PRAYER AND THANKS TO GOD (Thanksgiving) not the government acting in the name of religion? How is this threat to our freedom?
What about our currency…
The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase received many appeals from devout persons throughout the country, urging that the United States recognize the Deity on United States coins. From Treasury Department records, it appears that the first such appeal came in a letter dated November 13, 1861. It was written to Secretary Chase by Rev. M. R. Watkinson, Minister of the Gospel from Ridleyville, Pennsylvania, and read:
Dear Sir: You are about to submit your annual report to the Congress respecting the affairs of the national finances.
One fact touching our currency has hitherto been seriously overlooked. I mean the recognition of the Almighty God in some form on our coins.
You are probably a Christian. What if our Republic were not shattered beyond reconstruction? Would not the antiquaries of succeeding centuries rightly reason from our past that we were a heathen nation? What I propose is that instead of the goddess of liberty we shall have next inside the 13 stars a ring inscribed with the words PERPETUAL UNION; within the ring the allseeing eye, crowned with a halo; beneath this eye the American flag, bearing in its field stars equal to the number of the States united; in the folds of the bars the words GOD, LIBERTY, LAW.
This would make a beautiful coin, to which no possible citizen could object. This would relieve us from the ignominy of heathenism. This would place us openly under the Divine protection we have personally claimed. From my hearth I have felt our national shame in disowning God as not the least of our present national disasters.
To you first I address a subject that must be agitated.
As a result, Secretary Chase instructed James Pollock, Director of the Mint at Philadelphia, to prepare a motto, in a letter dated November 20, 1861:
Dear Sir: No nation can be strong except in the strength of God, or safe except in His defense. The trust of our people in God should be declared on our national coins.
You will cause a device to be prepared without unnecessary delay with a motto expressing in the fewest and tersest words possible this national recognition.
It was found that the Act of Congress dated January 18, 1837, prescribed the mottoes and devices that should be placed upon the coins of the United States. This meant that the mint could make no changes without the enactment of additional legislation by the Congress. In December 1863, the Director of the Mint submitted designs for new one-cent coin, two-cent coin, and three-cent coin to Secretary Chase for approval. He proposed that upon the designs either OUR COUNTRY; OUR GOD or GOD, OUR TRUST should appear as a motto on the coins. In a letter to the Mint Director on December 9, 1863, Secretary Chase stated:
I approve your mottoes, only suggesting that on that with the Washington obverse the motto should begin with the word OUR, so as to read OUR GOD AND OUR COUNTRY. And on that with the shield, it should be changed so as to read: IN GOD WE TRUST.
The Congress passed the Act of April 22, 1864. This legislation changed the composition of the one-cent coin and authorized the minting of the two-cent coin. The Mint Director was directed to develop the designs for these coins for final approval of the Secretary. IN GOD WE TRUST first appeared on the 1864 two-cent coin.
Another Act of Congress passed on March 3, 1865. It allowed the Mint Director, with the Secretary's approval, to place the motto on all gold and silver coins that "shall admit the inscription thereon." Under the Act, the motto was placed on the gold double-eagle coin, the gold eagle coin, and the gold half-eagle coin. It was also placed on the silver dollar coin, the half-dollar coin and the quarter-dollar coin, and on the nickel three-cent coin beginning in 1866. Later, Congress passed the Coinage Act of February 12, 1873. It also said that the Secretary "may cause the motto IN GOD WE TRUST to be inscribed on such coins as shall admit of such motto."
The use of IN GOD WE TRUST has not been uninterrupted. The motto disappeared from the five-cent coin in 1883, and did not reappear until production of the Jefferson nickel began in 1938. Since 1938, all United States coins bear the inscription. Later, the motto was found missing from the new design of the double-eagle gold coin and the eagle gold coin shortly after they appeared in 1907. In response to a general demand, Congress ordered it restored, and the Act of May 18, 1908, made it mandatory on all coins upon which it had previously appeared. IN GOD WE TRUST was not mandatory on the one-cent coin and five-cent coin. It could be placed on them by the Secretary or the Mint Director with the Secretary's approval.
The motto has been in continuous use on the one-cent coin since 1909, and on the ten-cent coin since 1916. It also has appeared on all gold coins and silver dollar coins, half-dollar coins, and quarter-dollar coins struck since July 1, 1908.
A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, </B>
Atheist killed 50,000,000 Russian orthodox Stalin I think it was. Or was it Marx...
Then there’s Poll Pot he killed hundreds of thousands. His religion... Atheism
so one might say that Atheists and war go hand and hand.
Paule Walnuts
Alex I agree with everything you say...except...
The Ten Commandments part that is.
With the exception of commandment #1 they are basic precepts to follow and easy to use in everyday life.
The problem with Atheist or people who develop personal codes of morality is that there are never any consequences for not obeying them. They seem to operate off the principal of justification and denial. No religion should not be based on fear, but fear itself does have its uses.
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No I do not....
I believe in the Blind Watchmaker theory put forth by Paley. God only intervenes with the affairs of man on rare occasion only.
I believe the Bible to be a great source of philosophical insight on living a happy life combined with some history and metaphor to help explain how to and what happens when you don't follow these basic teachings.
Jesus was a great philanthropist, nothing more. I do follow his teaching but discount Paul’s as they are not the same message.
Paule Walnuts
Yes and no..
Today’s laws are based on the Ten Commandments. We hardly live in a theocracy.
If we have no absolute line of morality to start from, then how do we start? Where do we go from there? Atheist code of ethics? On what grounds do we consider these ethics moral?
So you tell me...
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Alex..I am a Deist. Have been for many years.
The Age of Reason is a great book. You might want to get some of your information from sources other than Atheist websites. Their view is skewed from the start. I've also read Ayn Rands books and visited her website before. My older sister is somewhat a disciple of Rand. Rands philosophies are akin to Hegel’s superman philosophy. Hegel was a metaphysic. (Believed in God.) Rand doesn’t.
I’ve always thought it curious how the Atheist uses God when it’s to their advantage.
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Quickly how many times does Lincoln refer to God in this proclamation?
America was founded on God and Christian principals. Every aspect of our past is riddled with reference to God almighty starting from the beginning, The Declaration OF Independence.
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"The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In the midst of a civil war of unequalled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle, or the ship; the axe had enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years, with large increase of freedom.
No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and voice by the whole American people. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to his tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility and Union.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.
Done at the city of Washington, this third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the independence of the United States the eighty-eighth."
Proclamation of President Abraham Lincoln, 3 October 1863.
Since 1863, Thanksgiving has been observed annually in the United States
Thank you for the direct answer,
try studying the "separation of church and state" you are referring to. It's not to be found in the Constitution. It came later and from Thomas Jefferson in regards to the government trying to do then, what they are doing today.
Really look at the establishment clause and the free exorcise clause and you'll see a gross violation of the first amendment.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
Telling me I cannot use state facilities is a gross violation of the free exercise clause. Oh and congress didn't establish these laws judicial legislators did.
Freedom to practice religion, to govern by religion, to use religion in everyday life is what the constitution provides for. Any law bridging these freedoms is in direct violation of the first amendment.
I go now to President Lincoln who enacted through executive powers a national holiday, a day of PRAYER AND THANKS TO GOD…Do you know what day that is? I mean the liberals are trying like Christmas to wipe this holiday out as well but……Seems Lincoln knew the proper interpretation of the establishment clause.
Paule Walnuts
'ergo sum' ..Elaborate wont you?
But before you do, are you able to tell me how may times GOD is referenced in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution?
Then proceed to tell me how wrong I am. I am waiting for some good intellectual back and forth.
Paule Walnuts
HA HA HA HA...exactly! good post eom
Show your source for this C@P.
Don't put words in my mouth it's dishonest. And not worthy of response it makes you look the fool...
"And what have the Dems derailed?"
Every domestic policy Bush has put forward. Except the no child left behind bill which was co-sponsored by a drunken democrat Ted Kennedy. And they tried their best with Iraq. And is still trying with this politically correct speak of ‘re-deployment’...'Cut and run' is the correct terminology.
What politician went to a grade school bad mouthed the president of the United States and told the children that only stupid poor people go fight wars??? Wasn't that same politician in the military? HUH anyway..
Why would our children want to grow up and be president when all they hear is how awful the president is? They, unless taking part themselves in the politically correct censorship espoused by elitists, would not want to set themselves up for the abuse. Better to sling coffee at Starbucks.
When I was a child every President no matter how bad was given a certain reverence demanded by his office and needed for display towards the rest of the world. I see none of that reverence today. What I do see is extreme hate, vitriol, and absolute disrespect towards our leaders and more importantly our country.
Sad
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The only problem with our current system is that it was based upon as written in the Declaration of Independence, the moral authority of God.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,”
Our founding fathers thought that based upon that virtue, the politicians would always do what is right for America and her peoples. Our Constitution was based upon the virtue and moral authority provided by God and not by a government or king.
I think...The founding fathers being too idealistic and visionary were wrong.
As you see today with judicial legislation totally perverting the establishment clause of the Constitution, thus destroying America’s religious base we have the breakdown of society as we know it today. With no God as a standard of behavior, the people look toward our leaders who have no morals or ethics what so ever, as people to emulate. This slowly deteriorates our citizenry to the lowest common detonator as society’s norm.
Greed and corruption is what America was seceding against. It’s so sad to see that same corruption so prevalent in our politicians today.
If we were to move to a more theocratic society as was designed by our founding fathers,things might change. Although vigilance towards religion would need to remain on high alert, as we see today what happens when they have absolute power. Like our politicians they become corrupt.
Paule Walnuts
tinner...
I do not, and will not defend Bush. I too am very disappointed with his policies. However, no matter how disappointed I am I will not slander or name call the President of the United Sates. Unlike today’s libs who seek to subvert and slander at every opportunity, I even gave, although underserved; Clinton this same respect.
Above all else, we know that both parties are corrupt and evil. They are hedonists concerned with nothing but themselves and their re-election campaigns. Today’s congressmen both dem and repubs have more criminals in their ranks than pro football players in the NFL do. So if you claim that one side is better, less corrupt, has higher moral standards, you are obviously suffering from some sort of delusion (self or otherwise) or are a complete hypocrite that is seeking some sort of justification for the complete denial you live in.
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"Not soon enough for the 69% of us who hate his guts and his policies!"
See I don't 'hate'. I am very disappointed with Bush's policies as well. However for the last 6 years the libs have done nothing, absolutely nothing except attack Bush and try to derail every thing he did. If Bush were to wake up one morning and claim the sun was shining, the libs and their friends in the media would try to prove him wrong. What purpose does this serve for the American people? As the dems are currently demanding the repubs be non-partisan and work together with the dems why didn't they give him this same respect?
Answer...Because the country didn't/doesn't matter only getting Bush .The libs care less about America and will seek to promote their agenda at all costs. Including America.
69%... what biased poll you taking these numbers from? Repubs voted the current congress out. The dems did not win they were the only choice for replacement. Not much of a choice I know but it does show that Americans citizens are fed up with today’s politics and want change. I doubt the 08 elections will swing for dems. I think many of these new congressmen will be 1-term wonders.
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"They are all gutter trash. I have no use for any of them ... including the ones who oppose the war in Iraq ... they've just been bought by a different set of corruptors."
Exactly!
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Like I said, you are an ignoramus. You can only regurgitate whatever cut and paste suits your agenda. Your unwillingness to ‘put you money where you mouth is,’ is proof to this fact.
Paule Walnuts
When dealing with people like you, much patience and understanding is needed. After all you are suffering from a mental disorder called liberalism.
You a funny guy...
How many donut holes you punch lately?
Paule Walnuts
" Of course he is filth He doesn’t agree with you political agenda. Bill Clinton was a good guy right...Where is you public rage at the troops still in Bosnia. You know the war that killed thousands starved another 100,000 civilians just to cover up his illegal sexual exploits.
No out cry from the libs eh. Well I guess it is true. put a "D" in front you name and you above the law. And basic morality for that matter.
You hate troops in Iraq but love the troops in Bosnia. I know I’m repeating myself but the hypocrisy spewing from you hate filled mouth seems to require it.
Paule Walnuts
Do us all a favor. Take a hammer and hit yourself above the shoulders… repeatedly. As muscle atrophy occurs due to lack of use, Your brain shouldn’t feel a thing.
"he was more of a snake oil salesman than anything else. In Getting off Cocaine, he gave addicts “an alternative plan for getting ‘high’” that consisted of a daily dose of Sudafed, vitamins C and E, amino acids, and the occasional coffee enema."
Subjective statement with no source of information. He does advocate not using anti-depressants of any sort and believes that anti-depressants are currently stopping us from producing the next great artist, composer etcetera.
"as frequent comparisons of prominent progressives to Nazi leaders."
How many times you call Bush and his cronies Nazi's? At least 10 times a day...no?
"He has referred to Broke back Mountain as Bareback Mounting, making him as original as the guy who comes up with puns for pornographic movie titles."
Everybody I know has made some sort of sick joke in regards to that movie. I know its ok for you libs but not for anybody else. Kind of like a black people being the only people that can use the n-word. Hypocrites all of you.
"Savage is also convinced that affirmative action is a conspiracy to hold back all white males."
Surely you can admit that any program that puts one ahead of another due to race is purely a bad racist policy. It doesn't matter how well you do, if you're not black go away. I think black people fought against this type of treatment. I think it was called the civil rights movement. I guess if white people want equality that makes them racist. Perverted logic, but what the heck were dealing with liberal democrats here.
"It’s curious that a man with such an intense hatred of homosexuals has spent most of his adult life in Northern California, never moving to a less tolerant place where he could be more comfortable"
Why is it curious. Are you trying to plant a seed with this backhanded statement of pure inference?
"Savage has actually said in the past that his is a “gay-friendly show.”"
Savage lives in San Francisco. He prefers to stay on the front line and fiht the moral degeneration of our sexually libertine society. People are gay by choice their hedonism has not been justified through genetics.
Many Gay people listen to his show. Ever look at his demographics? The gay elite of which you are not one, hates the current gay agenda. They wanted equality, to be left alone not to shove their lifestyle down everybody’s throat. Calling them names when they, according to their principals reject that lifestyle. The whole marriage bs IS just another way to get medical coverage for all the gay spouses with incurable AIDS at the expense of someone else. This is very admiral. Your behavior gets you in trouble and you make others pay for it. Sounds just like the liberal gay socialist agenda…
However this entire post is moot. When Ideas fail, the looser is forced to attack character in an attempt to defame and destroy the person who's ideas do not. In no way does this serve to advance any ideological agenda rather is designed to 'shut up' the opposition. It's intellectually dishonest and since every party has skeletons in their closet, hypocritical as well.
Paule Walnuts
'Alex G' ...
You thought wrong ;)~
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"you little fool"
Nice to meet you to. Obviously you are a democrat who supports the party of perverts. Clinton and inappropriate sexual misconduct with a subordinate says it all. Corruption starts at the top. What excuses did you make for his sexual misconduct? You do know he was impeached for this inappropriate behavior don't you?
"Savage is a complete pervert ... I only went to his website one time .. have you really gone there ..?? .. He talks filthy .. and you approve of that ..??.. to me , his site is a porn site .."
I think you are confusing Savage with your poster boy Howard Stern. Savage heads up the Paul Revere Society, sends his personal money to defend our troops from our own government and publicly denounces today’s libertine sexual conduct. You obviously are the fool as you make false subjective comments towards an individual you admit you know nothing about. Filthy talk is claiming that a democrat cares more for America and its people than the up coming re-election campaign.
"What you have stated as fact is a lie .. there was money accepted without knowledge .. as soon as knowledge was known .. it was returned .."
Really? prove it. I can prove otherwise. You do know they have to disclose to the public the source of campaign contributions. NAMBLA currently finances 2 gay PACs (can you tell me their name? I bet you cannot) that in turn sends the money to the DNC. They are taking it through the back door. Unless you’re to scared or unwilling to admit how utterly corrupt your party is, type in a search for 06. Be careful though, you might have to question your allegiances. That is if you are honest with yourself. Liberalism is a mental disorder you know.
Paule Walnuts
Hi ksquared long time no chat
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OT: larice
I agree with your quote. Our founding fathers would be/are rolling in their graves
First of all the DNC accepts PAC money from the group NAMBLA
National American Man Boy Love Association. A group that believes it’s their right to have sex with boys 13 and up. Because they accept that money and use it to promote Democrat candidates, I think the entire Democratic Party supports child rapists and therefore should all be shot…Publicly. Is there a single Democrat that has stood up to reject this PAC money and publicly denounce these pedophiles for who and what they are? Until they do, they are all selling out America to the lowest most evil denominator that exists today for campaign money… And the people who vote for and support them are just as guilty.
I am a registered Independent. I am a conservative and a Constitutionalist. I think both parties are crooked to the core and can prove this with a five second Google search. As an Independent I think Lieberman is a douche and should not represent my party in any way. I've written my party and told them just that.
As for talk radio, I do listen to The Savage Nation. Michael Savage pretty much has the same concept of modern day government as I do. I am beginning to agree with his oligarchy stance. If Hillary gets into office in 08 then Savage will have been dead on correct. 12 years of Bush and a minimum of 12 with the Clintons. Really makes you think you have any say in today’s (hic) leaders.
Paule Walnuts
Liberalism is a mental disorder
Thank you for the recipies folks,
I think I'll try out Rachael Rays this weekend.
Next question....wine.
Not misinformed Alex,
I was being incredibly sarcastic and insulting towards Ingraham. I think her politics are as left as left can be. She definitely not a conservative. But then again I think most all modern day republicans are leftist pigs.
Paule Walnuts
Didn't Carolyn used to be the bartender here? A lot has changed since this place first opened up I tell ya what.A harbor light is a three part flaming drink you down out of a shot glass.
The harbor lights out of the book aren't the same thing.
Paule Walnuts
Bartender, The next rounds on me!
Intellectual conversation?...When introduced into the arena of ideas their elitist ideas fail each and every time.
This is why they skirt the process by whatever means necessary. Does judicial legislation ring a bell? Illegal immigrants being allowed to vote; I mean the list goes on.
What is their favorite line of thought… ”The ends justify the means”
I could go on but why...
Paule Walnuts
Ann Coulter is just as big a hypocrite as Maureen Dowed. Both are pundits for the parties they support. Coulter has way more intellectual wit than Dowed and Dowed isn't as big a slut as Coulter.
BTW Laura Ingraham is a Democrat.
* Thousands of American soldiers and Iraqis would still be alive
200,000 Iraqis to 2000 Americans. This kill ratio is absolutely unheard of in military campaigns. America’s military is strictly volunteer, so the solders that died on our side believed in what they died for. I do to. The spreading of democracy has been and always will be one of America’s greatest accomplishments. Look what we did for Japan, Germany, France the Philippines....
* Our enormous debt load might be less
Who cares? Like all previous national debts we can simply pay this debt off. Using Billy Clintons accounting methods we could do this is less than 5 years. Besides our national revenue intake is also at an all time high. So this reason is also bunk.
*We would see no difference in our daily lives.
Until we are attacked again.
Many people would still respect us and would not live in fear of our next aggression.
wishful thinking. What about the little Korean dictator and his nuclear bombs? Iran and theirs... These countries really respect us each and every time they slap our face and we turn the other cheek. Get your head out the clouds.
The Republican Party would not be in shambles
The repubs did it to themselves. They campaigned to their base to get elected then pandered to the left alienating the very base that elected them. And as with most republican administrations the national agenda took a backseat to the foreign policy. The only good things the repubs had going for them was the economy which I feel is being artificially propped up with high gas prices, which equates to more gas tax dollars; and the reinvestment of paper money in the housing economy. Both of these will soon collapse under their own weight. Get Russia and Opec out of the picture and watch oil prices tank to all time lows. Housing prices can only rise so fast and people can only refinance so often. When housing prices fall so does people ability to refinance.
The Democrats would not be preparing their next round of vote-buying legislation with my tax money
HA! Democrats will never change. Their success is based on the misery suffering and failure of America and its policies.
Paule Walnuts
Does anybody have a really good rolled spinach lasagna recipe?
I haven't talked with Husker for about three years now. I've been busy outside these forums and have only recently started posting again.
I do have a telephone # and address. That is, if it's still current.
Anyone here make a good Harbor Light?
Nice to see my board still up and running. Excel and Husker keep up the good work.
Paule Walnuts
K2
"And I thank Him for letting the astronauts have their adventure before he brought them home."
Wife and I were saying the same thing. Short-lived as they may seem to be, those lives were filled with more adventure and experience than the majority of the rest of us will ever come close to. Even if we should live to be 100.
Paule
ksquared..
I am so glad there are more of us that can look past the tragic but short-term loss of life and see the larger ramifications that this misfortunate incident has put into gear.
Paule
ksquared...
Sounds like you've been doing pretty good. I started my own business; I’ve been up to my neck in government paperwork and tax forms as well as customer proposals. Still holding a full time job as well. Been scheduling my jobs for the weekends but really don't know how much longer that will last. I'm getting tired of two jobs but not ready to support myself AND an employee yet.
OH well my bitch session is over. GOVERNMENT SUCKS, Especially here in Portland where they seemingly discourage any business what so ever. 6% tax just for the fucking privilege of doing business here. (*&)(*)_&)(*
OK now its over. Have a good one K
Paule