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abig. I see green flags too, lots. which is why i'm heavily invested.
good luck!
may the red flags fold up and disappear as a deal, then deals are struck!!!!
it is entirely possible lebby has no idea what any potential customer is really thinking about doing business with
lightwave. lightwave may not be in serious consideration anywhere by any decision makers.
the trading pattern is grim. those whose livelihoods depend on recognizing and actually understanding trading and
markets have nothing encouraging to say.
there is zero buzz. no insider buying. the volume discredits the likelihood that any event that would move the
pps to the upside is even on the horizon.
this message board includes a population that won't or cannot even acknowledge the existence of red flags, though
at this point there is a forest of them.
everybody has a right to lose their own money. timberrrrrr????????
thanks rkf302.
you've done wonderfully well with this stock. congratulations! as you say, I have not.
overall the stock market has been very very good to me. while my word is the last word, I owe more than
I can say to those who've advised me.
I make more money than I need doing something i'd do for free, but it is investing in stocks that has gotten
me wealthy.
you sound like you are too. I hope you enjoy it.
based on the meager evidence of posts, we clearly have a different sense of reality. it makes me smile
when you use the word, 'introspection.'
I hope your optimism about lwlg turns out to be warranted. it is one company i've kept buying more of in
direct opposition to what others I normally listen to think.
good luck...
nrdc92. agreed.
also, with no deal this has no upside chance.
with no deal this will drop anywhere from a lot to pennies.
the lebbyites have decided at this point that commercialization will happen sometime. it could be months,
it might be years away. they are heavily invested with a great deal more than money.
for them it is like being head-over-heals in love--everything about the love-object is enchanting.
it's a wonderful state to be in, but when it comes to investing in stocks, look out below...
yes nrdc92, they are.
farcical is a good word and oh so apt.
I don't think there's reason to be angry, though their ridicule and personal attacks are obnoxious. let
them lose their money, that'll be punishment enough.
yes nrdc92, they are.
farcical is a good word and oh so apt.
I don't think there's reason to be angry, though their ridicule and personal attacks are obnoxious. let
them lose their money, that'll be punishment enough.
lebby is not a criminal let alone a murderer. he's a brilliant scientist who probably should not be the ceo of a company
achieving amazing things in the area in which he is a leading luminary. as ceo he is trying to keep the company
afloat by all the means at his disposal. those include exuberant proclamations and language just cleverly
ambiguous enough keep a lot of people guessing, while many more others are simply uninterested. for many
investors, especially longs, this is somewhere between frustrating and agonizing, or between difficult and
enraging.
he is doing his job. he's just not doing it in a way that pleases me. what i wish is he'd either make a deal/deals
or give us genuine clarity about why commercialization is not happening. what are the reasons for hold-up
on both ends: for potential customers and lightwave itself?
evidently he does not think he owes this to shareholders.
i personally would have a much higher opinion of him if he did...
Xena, that's a wonderful photo!
is what you wrote what you really believe?
the photo is so enjoyable no matter what. thanks!
dude abides, good post.
though, don't get why you're excited about the next 6 weeks.
lebby has been smart, even artful in the way he's kept this from cratering, maybe even going to pennies.
it is everybody's money to win or lose--ridicule, cohesion, posts pro and con...none of it means a god damn thing.
lebby's a helluva juggler, but if no one will go into business with lightwave, the market will pull the plug on
his act.
if anybody was in serious negotiations with lebby there would be way way more buying. secrets cannot be kept,
though the concept of nda's, that can be deployed strategically, just as lwlg has.
if their livelihoods and their lifestyles depended on it, I wonder whether the lebby lovers would remain
so starry-eyed? talk isn't merely cheap, it's free.
capsule. today .0001? maybe. it could be any day.
it won't be much longer though.
for five bucks this can be propped up to .0003. but that's the extent of it. nobody is willing to
keep pouring $5 or any amount to get it to .0004.
the whelans will sell hundreds of millions of shares through proxies--they'd want to sell billions but that's too
risky. as is, Kelly has skated along the edges for a long time. not getting in trouble is probably her
number one two-through ten top motivations. considering the amount and level of malfeasance
that goes on, the sec hasn't the resources to go after the kelly's of this world. still, she cannot afford
to take chances beyond how she's operated since inheriting the CEO position.
Biel might very well hang around at .0001 for God knows how long. that's up to dr. Staelin.
unless Kelly gets drunk and blunders...
hey tie, just wait, hold your shares and just wait. you're not even going to have to wait
much longer. anywhere from a matter of weeks to a couple of months. just wait, you can do
that can't you?
yes ted, i caught that too. just as did those among my colleagues and acquaintances who have any
interest in lwlg.
you're an intelligent guy. i hope you're able to act according to the information we have, not merely interpret
it for a few people on message boards.
go Kelly???????????
go where?????
not one word of communication to shareholders in--how long is it?
not one act as CEO that might be viewed in a positive light.
go Kelly indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.0001.
this may be it. once it sticks at .0001 for awhile, the bounce to .0003 won't happen.
.0001. the only place this could go. taking everything known about Biel over the last 2 decades,
this pps has been virtually inevitable/
will it stick? will it stay at .0001 until the company ceases to exist?
don't know, can't say. too early.
it very well might bounce between .0001 and .0003 for awhile longer. after all, it takes the price of a pint of
ice cream to move the ticker.
I suggest anybody who uses the products to good affect as I do, buy what you can while you can. actipatch
actually makes a very nice gift. does more for the recipient than most gifts do...
zdog. you have no idea who on this board is selling, buying, holding, trading up and down. do you
really believe that posters on an open forum let you in on what they are really truly thinking or
doing? in my firm colleagues mislead and misdirect each other all the time in the effort to
make more money for themselves. not everybody, not all the time--but one never knows. that's
why you must depend on your own discernment, your own individual decision-making. about money,
of all things, people tend to be suspicious, and complexly not exactly straightforward.
for my very own reasons I am drawn to the way certain posters write about lwlg. you are likely
drawn to others for your very own reasons. but I do not think i'm certain about what motivates even
the posters i'm drawn to, no matter how consistent in tone and content their posts are. and I have
no idea how they're playing lwlg.
lwlg as an investment is an extreme case. every possibility wide open. assuming inside information isn't
available, as perfect for shorters as it gets. yet they might get burnt big-time...
doa. it isn't possible to really assess what anybody in a management position at lwlg knows about doing
business. we can say, based on the lack of deals/results, that right now it doesn't look good, or, it looks bad.
outside observers in general and investors with skin in the game, all have been in waiting mode for
awhile or for decades, depending. the CEO could clarify all sorts of questions interested parties like
to know, but instead feathers his ebullient communications with enough ambiguity to keep
anyone in waiting and guessing mode. why?
pro and con reasons have proliferated. each according to his or her own lights. one thing seems certain:
if no commercial deal materializes in the next months, the pps is going to drop way down. how far?
will it be bad, terrible, or a blithering disaster? those are the options, none of them pretty.
the unpleasant, difficult position lebby and Lightwave have maintained for shareholders has caused
this and other message boards to become places where supporters and critics go at each other, bash
each other rather than come up with a fresh thought to bolster their position. human nature at work.
besides the sudden announcement of a deal or deals, one hope I have is that the knowledgeable
people who attend the upcoming asm, they are clever enough and persistent enough to
force Dr. lebby to clarify all the issues he disguises with ambiguity. make him answer, yes or no,
like a good courtroom lawyer. we need to know! we deserve to know! he/they have been living well
off investors money for way too long.
what's up? tell!!!
.0001 next week. maybe Monday?
Kelly is a peach. a peach way in over her head. running a company is very difficult. she's given
shareholders not even one reason in years as CEO to think she's in any way up to the
job.
I hope she finds something she likes to do because I hope that for almost everybody.
does anyone know: is there any way to reach out to someone who works for or is somehow
connected to cbdd?
in other words, contact the company?
has anyone tried? you'd think if they are actually in business that the news from Germany would result in
some word from cbdd?
bouncing as has become the norm between .0002 and .0003.
such bouncing isn't sustainable for too much longer. unless something significant occurs
this will be bouncing between .0001 and .0002. this does not much matter; what does
is whether staelin's efforts stay strong and also whether he is finally able to
achieve something unprecedented with the company's fortunes. what that could be
I've no clue but there certainly are a great many possibilities.
glta
gimmeeg. nice sarcasm.
in a way you're right though. I do make a great living delving, but not the way you think. it is
possible you've seen, maybe even enjoyed things i've contributed to. depends on your taste.
which, based on how articulate you are, whether in sarcastic mode or otherwise, i'd guess
yes. (I realize I'm being very vague, but my sense is message boards are not a safe place
to divulge personal info. goes for the internet in general...).
my interest in Biel happened because I used actipatch and still do. yes I own a quantity of shares,
but not because even back when I bought I thought I was making a sound investment. call it,
a supportive buy. also, a grateful buy. the value of my holdings have dropped almost to nothing,
but I still hope the products catch on because they're beneficial. they work.
after all this time I've lost hope, but as i've posted, I appreciate, even am jealous of those like
yourself who haven't.
anyway, thanks for the well written diss...
nrdc92. lebby thought he had deals locked up. you are right calling what hasn't happened a 'massive warning
sign.' companies unwilling to get into bed with lwlg. more 'data' my ass. who knows why? fact is, every single
potential customer has reason (s) enough to steer clear.
where will pps be by asm?
reanimator. things are unfolding exactly as a few of us here expect.
April is going to be very rough on old lwlg. quite possibly rougher than I thought before the conference.
the market is out of patience.
the asm promises to be a hoot...
Kelly would literally rather die than turn the running of her daddy's baby over to any other human being.
even if it meant big bucks for her and her family.
nor would she hire someone who could challenge her authority with the kind of thinking it would take to
get Biel going. even if there was such a person willing to tie their career in business to a company
with biel's massive problems--which there is not...
so, like I said, whatever form it takes, those of you loyal to Biel, who have stayed invested, your payout
is hope and dreams, which are very significant indeed...
'big' announcement, low trading volume, what does that tell you?
how many times have I seen this in the last 20 years? lost track...
ddls. nobody is paying these guys. they run on the fumes of hope and dreams. that's a much bigger
payout than even money. they're invested, just not in a way that we usually think of as investors.
thousands of companies have such people.
it is amazing Biel still exists. maybe it'll outlive us all. much weirder things have happened.
not even Biel bullshit builds anymore.
the products do not sell. they never have. big companies would've come out with similar
products if they believed even a little that there was a market.
20 years have passed and the pps is at .0002 with almost no sales. for some reason staelin has
stuck, most likely because he put a lot of his own money in and wants it back. without him
and his efforts there is nothing. literally nothing.
a move to .0004 is virtually impossible.
back to .0002 is virtually inevitable.
it doesn't matter how great the product, how many uses it has, Biel cannot break into the pain
space. no branch of the pain market is open to Biel. this has been true for 20 years!!
nrdc92. trading action says, so what!
like you say, there is either a deal--and a big one--or so what!
it's nice lebby is as usual all hyped up, nice mainly for his troops, but for real investors, people actually
wanting to make money, it is status quo: science without revenue...
nrdc92. your take mirrors what everyone in my world thinks.
they get a chuckle out of the lebbyites, not because they've put or directed any money into lwlg,
but because these lebbyites are the sorts of investors who make them wealthy. there are lots of
other types of investors who contribute, but the unshakable, emotion-based, they are a gold mine.
naturally if something happens, if lwlg surprises by making a deal, these guys will jump in
with both feet. they'll miss the 1st wave, but they'll catch most of the action.
besides, once the dyke breaks, the pps will already have dropped very significantly, so any
increase, they'll be buying probably lower than where the pps is now, as it hovers precariously around
four dollars.
your take on asm 2024, I think it is dead on...
social media????
my workplace is as wired in as wired in gets. surrounded by other firms also wired in.
you have no idea, none.
to even mention social media means you've no idea the way potentially lucrative info gets circulated...yes, social
media gets used manipulatively sometimes, but--oh well, what the hell...good luck!!!
tgif!!!!
doa. do you really think lebby can't talk circles around the failure to make a deal--60 days from now or 300? or triple
that?
he knows his subject inside out, he is very articulate, and he is significantly motivated to keep the company looking/sounding
like something big could happen anytime.
as ceo he has managed to keep all the balls in the air for 7 years--why not 7 more?
the certainty about commercial success that some posters claim is nothing more than magical thinking. backed up
by ridicule, insult, and every form of acrimony in the defensive handbook.
outside of conferences, lebby has not been spotted in the company of a single high-ranking executive of a potential
client. if he was in 'deep' negotiations with his aunt trudie, someone would've seen and reported it.
jeunke 22. you are bright, knowledgeable, so many plusses. I do not get it: what basis is there for optimism at
this point? why do you think any potential customer is going to go into business with lwlg? and due to
lebby's ambiguous language, his refusal to clarify so much to investors, what makes you think
lwlg has tech anybody is drooling over? I realize English is not your first language, though you write
reasonably well with decent fluency, but might you be missing subtleties in his cleverly obfuscating
communications--few and far between as they are?
there is not one verifiable fact that points to serious negotiations being conducted. not one!
nrdc92. lebby would clear up ambiguities if he could. lebby would communicate anything positive if he had anything. lebby
would be spotted engaging with some potential customer executives if there were any negotiations going on.
secrets are almost impossible to maintain, now more than ever.
you lebbyites aren't qualitatively different than conspiracy theorists who have no idea how the world really works outside
of Hollywood type scenarios. lebby is enjoying himself; life is good. he gets to be with people he enjoys, travel
FirstClass to nice places, speak about and to people about the subject he knows as much about as anybody
does, gets lots of applause, eats and drinks very well...
but as a CEO charged with leading a publicly-traded company to financial success he is a nullity. 7 years, a few
grand of revenue???? that's it. and there is no buzz anywhere except on message boards. none. not
a whisper.
smart people like some of you lebbyites, they're more ingenious and elaborate in how they fool themselves,
more articulate and knowledgeable, but the results are the exact same as what happens to duped dummies.
lwlg isn't going to go. it is going to crater--soon...the lebbyites will have complex, ingenious reasons for this too. of course.
in fact, with the pps very likely below $2, they will leave the asm with reinvigorated certitude that
commercial success is real and it's happening...soon. lebby will play them like a violin--he
is quite the violinist. however, for me and those I speak to about lwlg and its prospects, lebby's ambiguities are
like listening to a wonderful example of a kind of music that is not to my taste.
glta!
proto. what you do, it's called magical thinking.
it can be done with anything. tons of people do it. successful people don't do it, or they're not successful for long.
you do it with lwlg. maybe other things too. on wall street we encounter it constantly. it accounts for huge
profits for those who take advantage of it.
nothing that happens with or to lwlg, no matter how contrary to your magical thinking, will stop or even interfere
with how you think.
if need be, you'll rationalize and shift your magical thinking onto something else, probably a spec tech of spec pharma...
good luck!
whelan's unloading a lot of shares lately. through proxies. not much money, a few thou, but it's what they've been
doing for years and years--15 sound right?
x, not that you care, but I am impressed and respect the hell out of this post.
your unrelenting posts about shorts, that's one thing, but every so often you show how intelligent and
experienced and knowledgeable you are. when you do, I enjoy reading and am very appreciative.
thank you!
if he wanted to lebby could clarify exactly what investors need to know. however, if in doing so he knows the
pps will lose another 50% of its value or possibly even more, then it behooves him as CEO to continue with the
cleverly ambiguous language that keeps everybody interested in the company guessing.
so far he's kept the dogs at bay, but they've nearly chewed through his verbal fence. will he communicate
with shareholders more, or was that also part of a strategy of obfuscation?
vein. you are right to be upset and to worry about whatever your investment in lwlg is.
outside of a number of posters on message boards, there is literally zero buzz about the company. all these dot-connectors
and lebbyites, they're far removed from the question whether lightwave is in negotiations with any customer about a
commercializing deal. as you are. the difference between you and them is they are aggressively optimistic and
believe that because certain linkages make logical sense, they will actually happen. well, sometimes they do
and sometimes they don't. the fact that nobody significant is mentioning them and lebby continues to
seek exposure and investors by attending conferences--what you get is this pps that is vulnerable to cratering.
lebby could clear up a lot by making certain unambiguous statement; instead he offers nothing except exceedingly
clever ambiguities.
for a small to medium investor with a lot of their eggs in lightwave's basket, it is gut-wrenching, it is confounding.
good luck!
agree nrdc92. thank you reanimator!