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nrdc92. haven't looked in in awhile...find it kinda cool the way the pps hangs tough. surprised it hasn't dipped into
the 1.50 to 2.00 dollar range.
don't quite get the latest bod addition. excellent career, but he's in his twilight, has nothing to prove to anyone, and
is probably very well off. usually such additions mean getting a 'yes' vote in return for something to do--nice lunches,
drinks, a bit of money. a complicated new technology trying to find its way in a complex fast moving and developing
industry steeped in fierce competition--doesn't make much sense to me, though it does seem consonant with
lwlg's operating style under lebby...
as has been true for a long time, any thinking about lwlg results in ????????????????????????????
have a good fall season! best,
chsmoke
nrdc92. are you as surprised as I am that lwlg continues to trade this high?
is it how complex the tech is and how complex the industry is as a whole, so the space for belief and
hope in a great upside is unusually expansive?
and/or, is lebby's marvelously articulate storytelling, and his status as a scientist within the photonics field
so compelling that it overwhelms his behavior as CEO?
because there is as yet not even a hint of a rumor that anybody is interested in actually going into business
with lightwave/lebby. the way this trades, except for the resilient pps around three bucks, reflects this
silence.
the last twenty years of the company's history, I find it exceptionally perplexing. possibly even more so since
lebby's ascension.
I mean, what is going on???????????????????????
srin and other bielievers...
how much money do you have invested in Biel?
what makes Biel worth your time?
in the time it has taken my grandchildren to go through school, including college, Biel has once briefly
gotten to .008.
as a very long time bag holder of many millions of shares, I have long been unable to even imagine any
scenario whereby Biel reaches .001 ever again.
obviously you have a different sense of reality--so all there really is to say is: good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nrdc92. as you often do, you've nailed it about lebby. arrogance or hubris mixed with poor managerial skills and even
worse instincts.
message boards are not populated by those with serious business experience or acumen. this one concerning lwlg
is particularly light. many of the most stalwart posters seem not to know the basics about business or markets--which,
as is true with knowledge and people generally, if anything, makes them more aggressively opinionated.
I have no more predictive idea than anyone else how this company is going to go, but from all I'm able to decipher,
this is not a good point in time tor price point to invest in it.
still, except for the shorts, I wish everyone good luck!
nrdc92. thanks. thanks for such an intelligent response.
not that it matters, but i wasn't asking for a recommendation, i was merely curious about your
particular strategy--which you described very nicely, as you generally do.
i myself have sold (and bought and sold and bought and sold) all my shares, and made out pretty well,
though i completely missed the big spike, and failed to cash in afterwards for what would have been
very substantial gains.
anyway, good luck in life generally!
best, chsmoke
nrdc92. without a big surprise regarding commercialization, lwlg will be trading under $2 by the middle of october--at the
latest.
the questions are, how far under $2? and how does one take advantage of that?
do you have a strategy? specific trading points?
nrdc92. years ago I was in a bar on a Sunday, drinking and getting ready to watch a football game i'd placed a big
bet on. this great big barrel of a guy next to me was about to call his bookie and bet even more than I had on
the other team. I told him all these reasons why the team I'd bet on was going to win and win big. including that
the other team had lost key players to injury, which the guy didn't know. I thought i'd made a compelling case.
but the guy says, 'shut the fuck up, it's my money, I bet it how I want.' so true!
doesn't matter really who won and who lost.
I'm reminded of this as I watch people buying lwlg. i'm surprised, i'm baffled, but so what!
nrdc92. investors and the markets, they're so incredibly unpredictable.
who is buying lwlg after dr. lebby's last benzinga interview? what is motivating some to trade this upwards?
i have immediate possession of every bit of info related to this company and their potential customers,
everything available to the public. no insider stuff, not a whiff of any proprietary info. and right now nobody
in my shop would touch this with a ten-foot pole. naturally this could change in an instant, but the same
could be said for most stocks and companies.
what's your read on today's upswing?
the PR is articulate. but it is not merely vague about what the company is actually doing in terms of
cannabis in Germany, it sounds like it has made literally zero progress. people are making money
off cbdd, but not retail shareholders. it is pretty incredible that after all this time they have not
one single concrete thing to report about what they are doing. at this point my own belief is
that they aren't doing anything, except pocketing whatever they can.
oh well. pinkie land teems with companies and managers like this...
the trading resiliency of lwlg is quite amazing. despite what's gone on for 20+ years, despite what has and has
not happened since lebby's statements, especially those in early December, 2023, there are a good many
truly stalwart believers. this is as impressive as it is surprising.
can't count how many companies with a similar general profile have been crushed back to pennies, yet
lightwave maintains a valuation that is baffling...except to unflappable believers.
good luck!
nrdc...what is keeping this up around $3?
the valuation is much to high. there isn't the slightest hint from lwlg's potential customers that
they are going to do business with lightwave.
this would trade very very differently if there was so much as a rumor. so many people are keeping
a very close eye on this industry because there is so much money to be made as
tech is changing at an accelerated pace.
I would have thought this would be trading between $1.50-$1.00 at this point.
evidently belief in lebby remains very strong. I myself do not know what to believe...
august 2, 2024. Biel: .0001.
Kelly Whelan is CEO.
communication with shareholders: non-existent.
outlook? lol
nrdc92. do not get why lwlg is trading the way it is. trending upwards steadily from $2.44?
i'm missing something. it's good to see this buying enthusiasm, but don't understand what it is based on????
tedpeele. a totally sympathetic and self aware post. I haven't read anything quite like it on this board.
you are a cool dude. if I owned a company i'd offer you a position that was suitable to your skills
and/or enthusiasms. you'd be a really good person to have around.
be well!
wow. even though Biel is virtually dead and buried at .0001, Kelly would rather drop dead than change
the share structure or burn 15 billion shares. or twenty. running a very small business is very very difficult,
and if you have no aptitude for it, it cannot be done.
if Kelly does actually do work directly related to the publicly traded company she is the CEO of, at least it
gives her something to do with her time. too bad as a manager/business person she's such a chip off the
old block. locked into ways that make success impossible.
by holding on, at least a handful of daily posters also have something to do. I know several marriages
where bickering is the glue--it's all they do, yet would no more leave the marriage than kill themselves.
boy Ted, you sure do arouse enmity, hostility, even hatred.
me and those I'm around who make their living analyzing companies and trading, or
recommending buy/sell, we think you've got a pretty decent head on your shoulders. not clear
what entrances you about lwlg, especially since its tech and the industry in general aren't
what know much about--nor do you claim to. but your common sense, based on the
history of the company and how the people in charge now manage and the way the company communicates
to shareholders, it is very solid.
you must get off on provoking, because you sure do place yourself directly in the line of fire on a daily basis.
good luck. whichever way it turns for lwlg, I hope you make some money for your somewhat mystifying
efforts...
some are surprised, confounded, whatnot--what is keeping the pps this high? small buys by marcelli? a few
devoted loyalists?
with cash burn, dilution, not one whisper of any deal, lebby's/lwlg's smart, tactical silence after what was finally
revealed--though only in part--at the asm, why isn't this dropping into the $2-$1.50 range?
hope is a pretty invincible force, but generally the market reacts much more severely to history's like
lwlg's. and generally punishes ceo's who do what lebby's done.
?????????????
...phone the office with any concerns they might have???????????????????????????
Biel has secured a pps of .0001.
me? I am not able to understand what or how kelly thinks. because of her father, Biel has been a part
of her life since she was in highschool or college. these last years, if she does actually do work related to Biel,
it is impossible to know how she spends her workday.
if I had to say, I think she uses being the CEO of a publicly traded company to write off lunches as business
expenses.
ethical? no. but there are plenty of so-called business executives who do that and worse. I don't think kelly
has the slightest trouble rationalizing. so a few shareholders--like me-- got burnt. big deal. that's the
way the cookie crumbles. at least I tried to make a go with products that actually benefit users...
etcetera...
does anyone know why this hasn't traded for quite awhile now?
has there been any other time period when this happened?
I do not recall this ever being the case in the past twenty or so years????????????????????
my thinking was off. I thought the pps would fall between $2 and $2.50 by now. I'm glad it has the buyers
and the buoyancy it has, considering there's no indication I can see that any significant deal will
happen anytime soon. and might be quite a long ways off. lebby has done a masterful job of using
ambiguous language during his stimulating storytelling to keep expectations high and the stock price far above where a company
with no revenue for two plus decades would normally be. then, when he was way more forthcoming at the
ASM, the pps took the big hit you'd think it would. however, once things calmed down, instead of continuing steadily
to fall, it seems to have stabilized around $3.00.
stocks/companies, they are so often unfathomable, as are the perceptions of those who buy and sell them.
lebby is a man of so many contradictory parts--i find him way more interesting--and mystifying--than the
vast majority of ceo's.
enjoy the summer everyone!
i'm a bit surprised this isn't falling further faster. evidently there is plenty of money that believes lebby's and lightwave's
story. it is such a complex tech in such a massive, incredibly complicated energy world. so many players and so
much at stake. an investor does not have to look too hard to find reasons to hope lwlg will succeed big-time; nor
is it hard to see reasons why it will not.
one thing seems clear to me: if the market suffers a downturn before lwlg makes a deal, even a relatively mild downturn
will send the pps under a buck. fast.
probably the same investors who are keeping the pps propped up now would view that circumstance as a really great
buying opportunity.
from closing deals soon to this--wow.
just because signs were bright and loud and yes, obvious, it is still surprising what honesty
will do. I think lawyers advised lebby unequivocally to conduct the asm as I've heard he did.
nobody wants their life mired in lawsuits, which, if he hadn't been considerably more
forthright--again, i'm relying on hearsay, but coming from someone I trust--is very likely
what was going to define a good part of his future.
I doubt anything today as I understand it will dampen certain poster's enthusiasm for lightwave or
lebby. they'll adjust.
good luck everybody!
.0001.
there isn't anything realistic that could propel this to .0004. .0001 is probably its final resting place, though
i can see certain pr's spiking it to .0003. temporarily.
kelly could bury 20 billion shares, balance the books, file an audit and reach secure, long term agreements
with note-holders, but none of that is in the whelan dna. it's not unlikely, it's impossible.
running a company is very hard, even a miniscule one like biel; it's a shame Kelly isn't much greedier
and less the way she is, because then she might be able to act in ways that might make herself
a nice bit of money. even if the shareholders she holds in contempt also profited.
no way Jose...
how I wish I looked forward to this ASM.
how can I?
lebby is very articulate and agile. I can hardly imagine him being straightforward. it'll be more of the same
and the pps will begin a slide into the 2's or below.
the same posters will interpret according to their by now very familiar positions. the only change will be
the falling pps.
it's all terribly fascinating. i'd love to read a book about it written by a really good business writer capable of
really understanding all the science related to every potentially affected industry. that'd be so much more
enjoyable than being a long in lwlg.
vein. how these posters can interpret today's pr as a positive for the pps of lwlg, even looking forward to 2025,
beats the hell out of us?
the suspicions, skepticism, doubts, and criticism of some are born out with each passing communication that
gives investors at least hints about where the company really is. lebby's ambiguous, obfuscating language,
now you have a better idea why. the gradual erosion of my confidence in him is now complete. yes, he's
fighting for the survival of the company he leads, yet integrity? it is not his strong suit. nor is doing actual business.
what a fiasco!
all in all, it isn't going to matter one iota what the lebby/lightwave boosters say or think. look out below.
as for the agm, those who attend, they don't have what it would take to pin lebby down. he's way more verbally
agile and determined than those ultimately dying to believe in him and the company...
nrdc92 and tedpeele. as you know I see lwlg much as the two of you do. one thing though. lebby is clearly a
flawed person--ie. human--which in his role as frontman CEO is accentuated and publicly displayed.
his character and personality may be exactly what prevents lwlg from succeeding. it's possible decision-makers
at lwlg's potential customers do not want to go into business with someone they regard as an arrogant prick
who thinks he's the smartest person in the room. deals are a very delicate matter. they can be undermined
by the silliest, most trivial reasons. lebby's language, that mixes the studiously ambiguous and obfuscating
with hubristic proclamations of 'ubiquity,' are enough to put off the wealthy, powerful men he's trying to
get in bed with.
this leads me to your disagreement about intentions. I happen to think you're both right. on one hand lightwave
and lebby consistently make promises they can't and don't keep. to survive, they very intentionally cover-up these
failures as best they can. on the other hand, lebby is a deeply self fooled guy. he's very clever and smart and
savvy and lacking in self awareness.
his facade looks like it's coming apart. he looks and sounds worried and on the verge of desperation. many
of his answers to questions are patently absurd. they reflect someone incapable of saying they're wrong,
they made a mistake. he is used to being praised and congratulated and admired. to being believed no
matter what. but as time passes without a single deal, as the pressure and tension rise, as the questions
from a few shareholders and investors become more pointed, the facade is beginning to crack. he'll
never collapse entirely, nor is he suddenly going to become self aware and find the capacity to
address the issues and status of the company he leads in a forthright, aboveboard manner.
since I cannot imagine him giving up the reins, I'm thinking that at this point lwlg is going to crash and burn
back to pennies, and Dr. Michael Lebby is going to move on with his head held high, blaming everyone and
everything except himself.
there are hundreds of appealing landing spots for a brainiac like him. I wouldn't be surprised if the lebbyite
posters, despite suffering serious financial losses, as well as the blow-up of their emotion-based dream,
place blame, not on lebby, but on posters like yourselves...
.0001 is biel's final resting place. a silent yet somehow dignified passing.
how does anybody continue to care as opposed to mourn?
kinzaman. there is a bit of both going on, incompetence and not quite actionable fraud. the problem is what
it has always been: no one wants to be in business with them.
lebby's words, his typical phrasing, is, have been viewed by...in terms of business it either means nothing,
or it's a bad thing. he's good at what he does--unless you're a shareholder.
vein, this is by no means a major dump. it's not even a medium dump.
you watch. this could be the beginning of the slide below $2.
you'll know a major dump when you see it...
vein, lwlg makes you so unhappy.
if you think you feel bad now, just wait another few weeks. then you'll really have something to cry about.
this can't hold $4 on big up days.
what do you think is going to happen when the market reverses? or if some world event spooks investors?
lebby is ambiguous because he has to be. lebby obfuscates because what else is he supposed to do?
he rides the fence between being a huckster, a liar, a CEO fighting for his little company.
there isn't so much as a single rumor that any company is in negotiations with lwlg. there is only
lebby's verbal agility and those holding shares who need to believe something unprecedented must be
about to happen and couldn't bear it after all these years of waiting if they missed out.
scope. besides clearly being a nice person, you're obviously very sharp and savvy. a brilliant investor and a fine person.
so what's about to happen couldn't happen to a more deserving person.
once the slide begins in full force, there is nothing to break it. longs maintain their holdings, traders will beat the crap out
of it. then, at a certain point the institutions and hedge fund computer algorithms will kick in and the total rout will be
on.
some have warned about this prospect which looks more and more like an inevitability. those who imagine lebby
is busy between Antwerp and benzinga cherry picking which tier 1's to go into business with--omg!
here we go...
impossible to know where this is going--that they weren't ready when the legislation passed as expected, speaks
volumes about management competence.
based on all info released in last 6 months, the company does not appear to be a scam. but since no manager has
yet to achieve actual forward-moving results, it is very possible cbdd will never really get off the ground.
just the inability to effect a name change might be all an investor needs to know to stay away...
KCCO. and now you're looking toward 2025.
evidently you've convinced yourself that no developments will take place in the meantime that could push lwlg totally
out of the commercial frame--as they have been for two decades.
in any event, your timeline indicates lwlg is dead money for the foreseeable future. actually it is a short's dream,
as it has been since the short-lived big spike fueled by admission to nasdaq and misinterpretation of lebby's carrot dangling.
look, I hope everybody here does well investing. but as an investor, is lwlg where you want to park your
money? honestly...
nrdc, Ted. we saw what you both saw. lebby is like a trained witness at a trial. his evasions are clear, the difference
is there is no prosecutor to follow up in a forceful manner.
no sense in thinking anybody here will see the obvious. investors/the market does, but there's really nothing that would alter
the perspective some here maintain short of confessional meltdown or lebby quitting--neither of which is at all likely, at least
not in the near or intermediate term.
doa. "over 20 major corporations have viewed..."
this is typical lwlg language. almost every word exudes obfuscation.
over 20?! this could mean 21 or 2001. one can hazard a guess that if it was 25, they'd say, over two dozen...
'major corporations'?! what do they regard as 'major?' and why not name them? or some of them? there is nothing
necessarily secretive or confidential, especially when the following phrase is:
'have viewed??????????????????? this can mean literally anything. what it says is nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lwlg could've sent photos to an engineer at X company. or a video. or an employee of lwlg could've paid a visit
to a company and shown them virtually anything because anything constitutes 'have viewed..
this is exactly why every person i've spoken to or been in contact with about lwlg thinks there is a very good possibility
that the company isn't even close to being seriously considered as a business partner by a single potential customer.
the pps hovering around $4, and the huge number of shorts reflects the suspicious, skeptical, even disbelieving market perception. for good reason!!!!!!!!!
and finally, if how they hope and want us to interpret this statement was legit, why hasn't a single major corporation pursued a deal???????????
tedpeele, thanks. you're deconstruction of the 10Q cuts right through into the meat of the matter. hope it doesn't take
too much of your time because there are so so many worthier subjects for a good mind like yours than the fortunes of the tiny spec tech
that lwlg is. the big theme of your critical approach is the nature of what and how to conceal what is really going on in order to
gain advantage or even survive. out of necessity a great many kids learn to do it very early in life. this critically
important question applies to individuals as well as larger entities, right up to government and those who govern.
naturally you can expect to get hammered by the usual suspects, but that only serves to validate your approach.
what happens to lwlg in the coming months and years is the one and only way we'll find out the true degree and meaning of lebby's
obfuscation and the reasons behind it.
the beginning of the big slide?
i didn't think it would happen until a week or two after the ASM.
lwlg/lebby clearly have nothing tier 1's are willing to implement and the speed of innovation is
such that alternatives to photonics will start popping up within the year.
i've no idea why lwlg's impressive testing tech isn't wanted, but i do know that amazing innovations get
passed over all the time. managing a business is very hard and managing a really innovative tiny company like lwlg
requires business talent that is very rare.
evidently lebby not only doesn't have it, he isn't someone who would give himself over to finding and hiring someone
who does. besides the bonuses and the carrot dangling, what got my hackles up was when karen liu (i think that is her
name) left the company and went on the much greener pastures. between her going and marcelli staying, that's when
i got the first bad case of the jitters.
under kelly's stewardship Biel trades daily between .0001-.0002.
which is where it will stick until the plug is pulled.
when that is is a matter of pure conjecture. it could be while i'm typing this, it could be ??????????
if a CEO has years in which to improve a company's prospects and has failed to do it,
why would anyone think something unprecedented will occur?
proto hasn't slowed down. he's one of those people who are incapable of owning what they say no matter
how often or how long they say it.
it looks like lightwave and lebby will get completely passed over. there is a global race to deal with energy needs and
if lwlg had what lebby says they have, companies would be negotiating hard. you know they're not because
there would be rumors, their would be crazy buying, and lebby wouldn't be skipping off to Antwerp to smile
and proclaim where it isn't relevant to the fortunes of the company at walterc's shindig.
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