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terrific response! thank you.
now do not spend one more second addressing my anxieties as i am
really going to avoid looking at the stock and this board for at least a couple of months. best to you!
thank you for taking the time.
however. does not explain why the fight for the 24 million doesn't
move the price up rather than down.
hopefully,all sorts of the kinds of positives you've outlined and described will take place; then, we'll see how valuable, as opposed
to, say, impressive, the company is perceived as being.
i'm going to close my eyes on this for 2-3 months, hoping that when i check back i'll be pleasantly surprised. enjoy the spring and beyond...!
so. i've learned from you and i'm grateful. so. what do you make of
these sellers, the absence of buyers? i understand this is not
your area of understanding, perhaps not even of real interest. i, however, find it odd. the patterns of selling/buying do not correspond to manipulation--much more it appears to reflect skepticism and lack of interest. this surprises me, especially in 'light' of what i've learned from you...
very well put. agree completely. the only place we possibly diverge is my assessment of chas: i do not think he is a bumbler, i think he has no intention of delivering. he gets some money somehow out of his relationship to the company, and stringing that along is who he is, what he'll do until, for whatever reason, he can't...he's not just a deadline misser, he's very good at fooling people and at lying.
good idea!
i'm done here. it didn't make me feel better and it certainly didn't stimulate any enjoyable dialogue. good luck everybody!
your comparison is specious. if a pilot had done the flying equivalent of chas's business actions, the passengers would be in hysterics, and we might commandeer the plane.
still, i'll cut it out, though i've every bit as much right to express my sane and reasonable frustrations and doubts as you have to write the
vacuous stuff you do. but like i said, enough's enough. i've lost a lot of money, but nobody is responsible for my decisions except me.
i really do hope like hell that things work out, and it really is lousy to be strung along the way we've been, and now i'll keep my
thoughts to myself...
if #1 means the stock can't even get to a buck and a half, what are you guys crowing about? the market is up--again, and the stock is down--again. you guys get some validation from the brilliant men pushing developments that are amazing, groundbreaking--me, i do not care one whit for faster, cheaper, more power scalability, none of it--the wondrous progress the modern world, fostered by science and technology, truly awesome intellectual achievements, has us all in
as precarious a place as is imaginable. after a mere 5000 years, hanging by a thread dangled by people i wouldn't trust with watering my plants. i'm an investor, i care about money. and so far anyway, i'm losing it not making it. if only photonics promised to have some positive affect on human nature--then i'd gladly ride my losses. as is...you guys?!
a lot.
and why? what's the difference? except because i've had so many for so long, you can tell it feels slightly personal to me. it angers
me that i bought into the promise, or i should say, the possible
potential of the technology, knowing full well that it takes honest, hardworking, competent people to bring any company to successful
fruition. chas's cheerleading, his brand of duping, only made things
worse. i played along because i wanted to believe--my head said no, my heart said, buy buy buy...
i have every confidence now that chas will take this to the only
place he was ever going to take it. you do not issue the kinds of
empty words he's been issuing for ages if your real intentions are
forthright. he strings everybody along, including snaper, with his
nice guy charm and in the meantime i'll bet he hangs out, drives
around, eats well, maybe plays cards or something, then when things
get dicey, does just enough phone calling or busy looking work to
keep the charade going. rationalizing it all--no problem. he's been
living like this for a long time, probably feels smart, maybe even
thinks he's sincere, completely unaware of why he's doing what he's doing, and steering clear of anyone who might agitate his fantasy
life. he doesn't even mean to do anybody any real harm; stringing us and himself along, he's playing out problems he doesn't even know he has...
oh well...
it sure is, it sure is. i mean, look where we are! after all these
years, who in their right mind can put a positive spin on what's
happened and what hasn't? microsoft, amazon, if andy and family had
been running them, they'd be triple zero pinkies too...lining their own pockets with investor's money while practicing a level of business incompetence that is often equaled but never surpassed, personally i find it nothing less than awesome. as awesome as being
a down with the ship bieliever...my god, look where we are!!!
apparently not...and why would they? he's incapable of saying anything that isn't totally positive and that doesn't amount to a hill of beans. he's got this brilliant, very old, non-business oriented guy in his thrall, and tells him and us whatever serves
him best. and look where we are! after all this time, look where we are...
liberals? it's dummies like you who are turning this country into
the frightening place a lot of thoughtful very smart people predicted dating back to the early 18th century. the way things are going, this country will be unrecognizable before the close of our
philosopher king's second term. just watch--losing all your money
will be the least of it. couldn't happen to a more deserving population. just like you and those wise perceptive knowledgeable
people like you deserve a waldorp running a company you've invested
in.
how odd that after winning such a prestigious award, more or less
certifying and publicizing their legitimacy, there is virtually no
interest in the stock. in the eyes of investors worldwide, it remains of purely speculative interest, which is so contrary to my
own assessment of it. obviously, once they do deals and revenue
starts coming in this will change, but i can think of many companies
that exploded to the upside with much much less concrete going on.
yes, it's all about perception, and at this point i'm rather baffled
by the reigning perception...
is anyone planning on trying to speak with someone who might have
a real grasp on time-frames? is it possible to still actually talk
to snaper? to ask him if he feels a sense of urgency?
excellent post!
my own posts were nothing more than intemperate reflections of
my impatience and my frustration with the tone and repetitiveness of certain posters.
i'm over it...
yes and no.
if this was anything close to a sure thing, do you have any
idea how many tens of millions of dollars would pour into it? instead, the stock gets a few thousand/day. information is the
lifeblood of big money, and it's poised, 24/7/365, it's poised to
move according to credible information--not all of which turns out to be true. the best investors and investment entities get burnt
all the time.
you're hoping. i'm hoping. we'll see. in the meantime, lwlg paddles
around in the shallow end...
some investors here are smart and have a pretty good understanding
of the science and the possibilities. but in the wider world of
smart people looking to make money, there is widespread skepticism.
proto posts continuously--he has some agenda i wouldn't even guess
at--and he quotes significant people, including dr. lebby, saying
persuasive things about the extraordinary achievements and incredibly bright future of the company...but so far, all that smart
money, the huge amount of money that floods opportunistically into
thousands of rumors of potential, as well as, actual potential, that
money is totally skeptical. this is not a scam; it's a company that
is as yet impossible to predict. is lwlg a good investment at this
point in time? i've no idea--and neither does proto or any of the
other believers. i sure do hope it proves out and explodes to the
upside--we'll see...
glta
you're right.
also, i agree with everything you said in the long post. i thought
what i was saying was pretty much along the same lines. you just
added flesh and said everything better.
good luck to you. you sound like a nice cool smart person...
they have a real, valuable tech or they do not. they are working
in a real business way to commercialize the tech or they are not.
they know what they're doing or they don't.
indications are strong and growing stronger that one, or perhaps
all, these statements deserve to be answered in the negative. i
personally know 15-20 people who could have gotten this thing flying
a long time ago--provided the tech is real. there is absolutely
nothing chas could or would say to us--executing on the business is the one and only meaningful action. none of you really know whether
chas has any money invested here, nor does anybody know whether he
has the competence to make ctdt a reality.
he's a nice friendly guy on the phone. he's been promising positive
actions for as long as they have not born out. my attention is now
going to turn elsewhere completely. toying with ctdt is depressing
and so far futile...
me too. me very much too. all the posters here strike me as nice
reasonable people. why you're not angrier that an extremely valuable
tech has been stymied by incompetence is mystifying. chas wasn't forced to take the reins of this company, he took them and has treated it, and us investors, as if it was a one-legged mule. might he still behave like a competent executive and get this company going? for snaper's sake--and for all ours--i hope so...now i'll quit blowing off steam. good luck everybody, with ctdt and otherwise.
and not a word from the company. and no one contacts chas the
scarlet pimpernel probably because they're as scared of his meaningless reassurances as they would be any bad news. the way he
operates with centaurus, is it any wonder he took another company
to rack and ruin? this, evidently, is what he does with his life.
there are much worse characters out there, lots of them, some of whom could put a truly big hurt on us hapless investors.
why? what would be the point? he has the title, but does
he function? expect this,expect that, then nothing. we're
all entranced by a tech, while it's clear there's nobody
involved capable of making it operational and getting a business
going. least of all chas, regardless of how charming and
sincere he appears. lots of those without the real right stuff
believe what they say wholeheartedly; it's what keeps them
going--in this case, to the everlasting frustration and dismay
of a few dozen gullible investors. like me.
asking someone in charge of a business you've invested
money in a reasonable question does not fall under the
heading of bothering them. we all have a lot on our plates.
any of us who tend to raise expectations, then fail to
deliver deserve to be questioned, if not called on the carpet.
that's true with family, friends, acquaintances--with an officer
of a publicly traded company, it's virtually necessary. but
i'll back off. the best solution for me is to stop reading
message boards. stop getting caught up in false enthusiasms,
and information that doesn't correspond to any reality.
is there a reason why those of you who periodically contact
chas do not do so when he allegedly tells one of you something
is going to happen and then it doesn't? when speaking of him
everyone makes a point of saying that they like him, so, since
he isn't an s.o.b., why not ask him why something, in this case,
a pr, didn't happen? also, why not ask him why he feels compelled
to make statements that prove to be false? is he one of those
people compelled to undermine his own credibility? the 48 of us
who are shareholders in ctdt, are we just a group that happens
to just prefer to be passive investors who appreciate the dynamic
of getting their hopes raised, then dashed, as long as the person
blowing smoke up their whosiwhatis is nice?
the report reads exactly as expected. the work they have done since and will continue to do is all that matters. it is not bleak; it shows a thorough understanding of all aspects of the business and precisely what needs to be done. if they had accomplished significantly more by the date covered, this would be a noisily blast-off stock and company. if snaper has or soon will figure out the technology, they have a serious chance of being hugely successful. both he and prentice sound quietly confident--not at all in a sell-sell scammy way. if there is dumping, my advice would be to buy like crazy because the opportunity to get actually rich is very real. I bought in at .12 and am hoping it goes sub-penny because then I can pick-up a ton. I understand why others were and felt duped by the blog--it created considerable irrational exuberance; based on my reading of snaper and prentice, the problem with the blog was how completely out-of-step it was with the timing of business development. in real-time substance it may prove to be perfectly accurate. I do not think lt is a nut or a numbskull or a criminal, but he is excitable and he does jump the gun. the cooler heads that will prevail are the only ones that matter. glta
how can anyone not be very worried? real businesses and legitimate business people do not behave this way. they have, or at least act like they have, some regard for shareholders. as for you posters/shareholders, every wishful speculation, no matter how well argued, is exactly that: wishful. at this point I have written off my ctdt investment; am I open to being surprised? absolutely. I realize you posters are involved the way you are as a form of bonding--and if you make money, great. I myself bought into the (remote) possibility that ctdt was in possession of a disruptive technology, which offered the (remote) possibility I might make a lot of money. I was wrong; I've been wrong before, i'll be wrong again. you can't put a price on either the hopes ctdt fostered or the bonding over those hopes that resulted; I got neither those nor financial gain so I lost more than the rest of you. good luck going forward...disappointed and down but far from out.
why hasn't anyone called the office, called snaper,called any relevant number you possess, and simply say what is going on, your shareholders are worried this is a scam, is this really what you want as a legacy after such a fine career????