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Who says there are two new lawsuits? The letter posted by ATJoe is a "demand letter" not a lawsuit. And btw how do we know the amount is accurate? We don't ..but let's just rush to judgement...again
Please provide verifiable proof of your claim.
I agree with you. Character does matter. So does a track record.
So let's examine them both as it relates to the boot brothers...JS and SA.
1) JS has a record of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE not once but twice.
2) SA has started up and collapsed in excess of 100 companies.
3) JS has a track record of (according to Peachman) borrowing money from other shareholders and NOT PAYING HIS DEBTS.
4) JS blames all the woes of the company on MW/RW and takes not one scintilla of responsibility for anything while with the company for over 4 years. Claims to be an innocent dupe who collected a pay check but in the end was a Sgt. Schultz.
5) Both SA and JS have recently been in foreclosure.. but take such delight in criticizing MW for having had the same problem.
For them it was an unfortunate circumstance... for MW.. practically a crime.
So IMO, SA and JS lack character and have a troubled track record... so yeah.. it does matter.. But apparently only when pointing a finger at others. People who live in glass houses... well you know the rest.
For the very last time....ecomike was poking fun!!!! He did not believe that figure anymore than anyone did. Yet you keep repeating it. It really is an LOL!!!
Will not mention again just too silly!!!!!!
As I understood from previous posts IFUS is also a plaintiff by counterclaim. But I could be wrong as I have not been down to the court house as you gave claimed you have done.
The protective order I thought was in early October but in any event perhaps you've got it wrong. Protect means to protect.. Gag means to "shut up!"
It appears that not everyone who posts agrees that MW has done harm. The courts will decide if we ever get there. Nunc dicam.
How do you know that PM was not assessed costs? Why have you not been down to the courts to check?
What happened yesterday? According to ATJ exciting things were to happen the court to get things back on track re depositions etc. Were SA and ole joe too busy scheming to attend and that is why the deafening silence?
How do you know that " everyone outside of the cabal has accepted the 2013 numbers"?
How did you accomplish talking/communicating with "everyone"?
Who is everyone?
As I am fond of saying...just because you say it is so...doesn't make it so!!!
Well I guess we will let the learned judge figure that out. Not for posters on an internet message board to even weigh in on let alone decide. Nunc dicam as they say in Ancient Rome
And you know for a fact there was no other reason? Really?
Nice try at spin, but it falls dead. Of course the lawyers did not ask for a three month delay. But, of course, they knew that there would be some delay, and that is one of the reasons for filing the request.
The facts are that the present 3 month delay is a result of the defendants, MW/RW, filing a motion for a gag order.
The delay was not caused by the Boom Brothers, nor was it arbitrarily imposed by the court. It is a direct result of MW/RW's actions.
Never have I ever heard of a lawyer dictating to a court when they want a motion heard. I have heard of the court asking both sides what would be a good date with no conflicts.. but never have I heard of a lawyer saying to a judge's clerk.. "put us down for 3 months from now so we can delay this case!!!! Seriously???
Why would is it necessary we assume that the 2nd lawyer asked for more time when there is no evidence that he did?
No one said he did or did not. You wrote: We are supposed to be outraged that SA has added a lawyer...which may cause a delay in the trial if the lawyer asks for additional time (which he has not)
You avoided answering the direct question posed.... How do you know that the lawyer has NOT ASKED FOR A DELAY... You: ((which he has not)
Second question.. how do you know that IFUS doesn't want to defend itself ... and definitely does not want to go through discovery." Why hire a lawyer if they did not want to defend themselves. That is just plain silly thinking1
Now that I think about it.. HOW DO WE KNOW THESE SO CALLED FINANCIALS ARE AUTHENTIC. ANYONE could make these numbers up on a word document. There are NO OFFICIAL COURT STAMPS, NO INDICATION AS TO WHO CREATED THESE DOCUMENTS.. NOTHING FROM IMPACT FUSION OR SUPREME..
For all we know they are phony and created by the BB. Why we did not notice this before bewilders me.. but there you are.. no officals markings of any KIND.. .. Certainly not from the Broward COUNTY COURT. THAT IS FOR SURE!
We're supposed to be outraged that SA has added a lawyer ... which may cause a delay in the trial if the lawyer asks for additional time (which he has not done) and the Judge grants that time.
Just exactly who do you know that the new lawyer has not asked for extra time? How would you know that as a non related party to the litigation? Why would you have been given access to this?
But, the fact that MW/RW and clan filed a motion which did cause a minimum 3 month delay is no big deal and should be disregarded?
Since when was it only okay for the Boot Brothers to reschedule or file motions but IFUS cannot. and BTW I thought courts set down dates not litigants. So if the court said, yes we can hear that in 3 months as that is the earliest time our docket will allow...... EXPLAIN HOW THAT IS IFUS' FAULT? I guess the only solution is to ask IFUS not to file motions and not to defend itself.. seriously?????
ATJ says something scary is happening tomorrow I really hope IFUS does not cancel or delay again.. I really what to know what's up!!!
No one is outraged! All the rhetoric is coming from the BB and others. Delays happen in the court system. Who has a control of that? All in due course!
And of course there would absolutely no other rational reason for filing for a protective order other than to delay. Just like IFUS was accused of delaying when the judge in the PV case (over whom no one had any control or influence )happened to choose the trial date which interfered with another hearing.
I guess it's a good thing that IFUS is around to absorb all the blame heaped on it.
Remember..it's not what you eat, it's what you absorb!!!
But here's the rub.. Filed for but not granted. Much ado about nothing until a judge rules. If the judge determines that IFUS deserves to get protected then so be it. If not then the hyenas will be at their doorstep. No doubt in my mind.
What proof do you have of that? Just because ATJoe says so, doesn't make it so. How do we know that the boot brothers are not the ones delaying? Answer we don't anymore that you can say the other side is. Pure and utter speculation.
Maybe the delays were caused by the BB getting their second law firm up to speed ... That would make sense.
Just like the PV case this one will wend its way through the courts and eventually get resolved. PV's took 4 years. This one has already taken a year... So be it. Sometimes courts themselves delay things. Can't be helped but to continuously and endlessly accuse one side is prejudicial to an extreme...especially when based on pure and idle speculation.
You know for sure the boot brother ATJ would have shouted from the roof tops if his Buddy poor ole PV had won. So by reason of deduction...IFUS won. I can't imagine a lawyer as good as IFUS (according to ATJ's report that IFUS has a good one) has would not immediately file for costs. Whether poor ole PV has an money to pay these costs is unknown. If he is working then I guess IFUS can go after his wages to cover the costs. Not my area of expertise.
The big question is ... Did IFUS ever pay a single bill or invoice? Is there anyone they dealt with that they did not stiff.
The financials leaked by OLE Joe indicate that bills were paid...
I think it is under Expenses.....
SA had a foreclosure.. Public record
Ole joe had a foreclosure. Public record
JS has domestic violence not once but twice. Public record.
And yes again where are you seeing 2014 information if us that what you expect you see on the 31st.
Wasn't ole joe around at the time the company allegedly defaulted on the loan? What were his responsibilities? Did he contribute anything at all?
Not in this case and it is not lol
Doesn't. Matter how many there have been. What matters is the boot brothers have had foreclosures..
After you read all the links posted by pantherj that are clearly one sided. Then please check out subsequent press releases that tell the whole story... Not just the one sided version.. You should not get surprised to learn that both MW and RW were vindicated. Gosh. What a surprise. Pj. You should know better by now.
I just checked broward county. jS had a foreclosure along with his wife in 2009. And court records show he was not represented by a lawyer. So was he broke back then too?
He claims to not have had any income from IFUS or benefits from IFUS but in a recent post today you indicated the the boot "brothers" plural invested. As Martin33 has stated the other boot brother Ole joe does not have a pot.....in! So how on earth does he go from foreclosure in just 2009 (which clearly was not IFUS' fault) to being able to invest in supreme in 2013.
Is he still in foreclosure. Is SA still in foreclosure? Were they in court at the same time?
How does someone with sooooooo much money (according to ATJ end up in foreclosure as did S A in 2009 ... Public record. Just sayin....
You love to make fun of peoples hardship????? Seriously how many times have you posted about MW bankruptcy? Hypocritical set the very least.. Oh wait you just did it again.
What about SA's foreclosure in 2009. Public record.
Where are you getting the 2014 numbers to the end of June. Has that been filed with court? Please provide a link!!!
Sir you are right. That is perfectly logical. But your prior posts made it seem to this board that IFUS Should be shaking in their
Boots because they have 2 expensive law firms. The truth is according to you the Boot Brother hired a litigation law firm.
So what. He needs a good litigation firm as according to a boot brother IFUS has a good lawyer.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=9033196
Another SA "project" this used to be the infamous Frontier Energy.
Became National Health Partners and its symbol is NHPR and it is delinquent and has a HUGE RED STOP SIGN ON IT.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NHPR/filings
I Wonder how many more are out there. This is yet another father and daughter "PRoject" to con people out of their investment dollars. SA and TA..great team!!!!!!
Quote: " the boot brother with money appears to have taken interest in this case, and now has 2 legal firms representing him"
What a strange statement made by ATJ. Over the past few months it is abundantly clear that one of the boot brothers must be the lender for who else would have an interest to sue?
We are also led to believe that ole joe can barely buy a cup of coffee so he would not be able to take an interest in the case monetarily. So by reason of deduction, the lender is a BB. And we know who the BB's are?
Is it possible that one law firm is do inept they needed back up?
ATJ posted last month that according to "their" attendee at the PV trial we appear to gave an excellent lawyer representing IFUS. That should make all shareholders happy and confident. Go IFUS.
And your "proof" of any of these wild accusations can be found where exactly?
By the way if you know... Did the boot brothers actually believe that the bagasse project was a viable one?
How do you know they are not getting things squared away? A lot if things can change in one year and I think MW has a plan to make IFUS and Supreme a force to e reckoned with now the deadwood has been chopped out and thrown in the trash.
According to some posters IFUS has won two cases. ( not independently verified even though we were told a boot brother attended). According to ATJ he was too body to stay for the verdict, why go at all? Isn't that like going to a minute and leaving before it is over? Very strange. But in any event with potentially two victories under his belt he us poised for one more.
Remember ATJ used to support poor ole PV... Now he calls him a forger!
Just because you say it does not make it so...and that applies to me as well..
But the ALL CAPS and multiple !!!!!!!!! Indicates panic on the part of the boot brothers. You don't know, I don't know what is going on so to say that there is no business, no revenues etc is pure conjecture and speculation and how the boot brothers wishes it were so.
You are probably right.. But why blame MW? Any chance there might be another reason?
How do you know that PV was not sued for costs?
Where is the proof?
That's one definition there are others
Correction you said supply depositions ... How do you know that. Please provide proof !!!!!!
Please provide proof that MW refused to provide deposition materials. How can that be When ATJ allegedly posted materials from documents he said were filed in March?
Not true. I disagree