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Dear Matt...
How about it? I layed low and took my licks.
Now, the fellow I was arguing with seems to have taken on some of my traits...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=8854538
Therefore, you will not see any more of those particular arguments.
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REALLY!
That's great work, Andy. Looks like you might have heeded the FOIA advice? Frank A. Henderson?
Anyway, while I doubt they said they were hunting rabbits, I would be curious as to what they did say.
FOIA is good, isn't it.
Are you advising Mberto not to buy any shares? Sounds like it to me. You might want to firm up that comment for Mberto because you are talking about a publicly traded security that he is buying.
LoL
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Mr. Hoppylad: There are many pitiful things about this stock and this board. I doubt one of those is my inability to devine the telephone number of someone else's attorney or my inability to have that person send the number to me privately.
Hoppylad. I wish you luck if you truely lost money here, but you have a grudge against me and that does not make your posting productive. Far too many 'little posts' of chatter and comments about me.
Therefore, that being the case, I will do my best to refrain from exchanging 'comments' without productive value and hope you do the same. You can always contact me on PM if you have a personal issue you would like to sort out.
You can also do all the DD you want on PT's operating history by actually reading all the SEC filings (old) that this company filed. There is a trove of information, exhibits, names, and tens of millions of shares exchanged for 'services'.
I did this DD already and posted it countless times. I also went beyond the paper, so to speak, and did some DD on the people involved. That is why I offered it to 'someone's attorney'. I hope you find something to offer as well.
Thank you.
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Danny... Let Phoenix Associates Land Syndicate ;)-Titan Oil-Bancorp-Netco loving Mberto do what he does.
Don't want to see you lose your focus after you got it tightly on.
The feeders will always feed. They will win some and lose some. As long as they don't start posting LONG FAKE DD POSTS WHILE THEY ARE FED ON THE PHONE FROM INSIDERS.
I'm sure you'll be watching if that happens.
I'd focus on that NOBO claim and how the insider information got OUT and SPREAD. You might have insight into that.
Then, just wait for an attorney to take it, I suppose.
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[Edit]Danny... You know the name game they play. The NOBO thing was great. That is why I jumped them when they started the Choti claims. That is why I asked him if he personally knew Bloc. I asked this 5 times. It was NEVER answered. NEVER.
Draw your own conclusion. I have.
What is hilarious is this... The company said...'regarding specific entities who have seemingly traded extremely large amounts of the Company's common stock, yet do not appear on the Company's NOBO lists.'
Key word: SEEMINGLY (clearly not a fact, rather a speculation, a very KEY word that modifies the entire phrase. I can say I have reached EXPERT status on reading penny PR's. :))
Key theme: 'yet do NOT appear on the Company's NOBO lists'
So, he issues that PR publicly naming the unnamed that seemingly do bad things to the good management and when that doesn't do the diversion trick, he starts a whisper campaign on the boards about people that DO APPEAR on the NOBO list.
Ta-Da: Then you got Choti after Lefkowitz.
LoL. Now, That's funny. You will get any and every excuse and any and every angle of that excuse possible. There is nothing they will not say except the very public and the very specific without modifiers.
I have to say, Danny, it is great having you and Sly posting here. Makes me much more optimistic to know there are good and smart people out there. Some people take it, some people don't.
[And OUTLAW BEACH! LoL. Thanks Outlaw. Obviously, I agree with how ridiculous it looks. Everyone knows that lawyers want to know who all the victims are and how much money is at stake FIRST! These people on this board who are misleading you haven't even attempted to take the first step. Not to mention the next step of pooling the information and gathering the evidence from those that have it. This is a SMOKESCREEN, IMO! Good luck]
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Stockefeller: I told you I would CALL YOUR LAWYER. You seem to read things deliberately obtusely to create a result you can mock, rather than the obvious rational result.
Your lawyer does not have to ever get online.
I will call him. Send me his number. I bet your lawyer (if you have one) would love to hear what I have to say. If you really had a lawyer, he would salivate over the quality of my research and due dilligence.
I Conclude you will, instead, mock and delay.
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P.S. Mberto: To the moon. Great. Love your DD. Have a blast. But stay off people's backs that are doing due dilligence on this company and it's principals, which includes Telatinos, Paul Taylor and all previous incarnations.
Stockefeller and Mberto:
Stockefeller: PM me or post your lawyer's contact information. You will be surprised by what I tell him/her and you will be surprised by how FAST I tell him/her what I have to say.
It will leave you with nothing to say to me except: 'Thank you'
Now. Like I said, I don't think you or anyone here who pretends to seek justice actually has a lawyer.
Therefore, you are burning everyone's time. I agree with SLY.
Mberto: This company NTVI is responsible for every single Telatino's PR. A name change is just a name change. You can do it once a week. But, the assets and liabilities move FORWARD to the new name, with the PR's, representations and all the rest. Threfore, this company's last PR is the latest news. You can't stop us from talking about this company. If you would like me to explain this to Matt, let me know. He is very familiar with name changes.
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Sly: So true, so true. But, don't make too much sense else you be considered the new real threat and target. Maybe YOU did all of this.
LoL.
Hoppy: Should I even waste words in reponse to that post. I could say...
"Why would you believe something this person said in June when you claim fraud on everything else they said?"
I could ask that, but that would be ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as you raising it.
Let us know when you get the sand out of your ears.
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Hoppy and Sly....
Hoppy: Why do you ask? Do you think I am nefariously operating against your interests by uncovering scams and telling you to be careful investing in them? That is very nefarious. Far more nefarious than promoting them!
Do you think I live at the Isle of Man or that my RB profile could possibly be a joke. I would think that if I were nefarious, I would not say 'Isle of Man'. I would probably lie and say 'Georgia'.
I'll let you think that over while you devote yet another post to me and not the people that pumped this stock.
Sly: Good to see you again. I am sure you are amused by their strategy of not telling people if they have a lawyer that victims could contact with their confidential information. I suppose that they think their lawyer (that they don't have, IMO) will come here and post all their secrets.
Amazing, but amusing too.
;)
Hope all is well.
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Danny: I know! I know! You are not alone, but a few people here hardly ever bring up his name (although they are happy to bring up other names).
You're smarter than that. You get it, IMO.
Face it. The same people that said the following about PT are not about to blame him....
"remember that PT is an investment banker. Like Richard Gere in "Pretty Woman" LOL, but if you remember, Richard Gere made his $$ buying and selling one company after another. That's why we see so many shell companies and SIC numbers.
However, mostly-watching's post a little while ago seems to suggest the ISP-related operation (Tela) was in the planning stages four years ago. Perhaps, like Richard Gere said, PT is now committed to this sector. "
"Yeah, PT got burned by Trezac/Millagro too. Check the docs -- I read them carefully to see what his motives might be. In every case I've seen, he comes out on the side of law and order. I put my trust in him...he's a leader and a go-getter. And you better not "cross" him!! LOL"
"Zam, this ia a man you'd definitely want on your side! IPCY comitted gross acts of corporate malfeasance when they converted the preferred shares. In addition to fraud and possible theft, their doings resulted in their (unknowing) creation of 1,000,000,000,000 voting shares of common stock, and some huge number of preferred votes. That's just utterly stupid. Then they got some sham lawyer and the board to "lose" the articles of charter for IPCY. They even tried to sue Paul first, but he sued back and fired the entire BOD...I think I've got it straight.
Would you rather have the board of IPCY on your side, or Paul Taylor? LOL -- wake up one morning, and all the money is gone, they lost the charter, and there's a float of 1,000,000,000,000 shares!!! "
[My favorite. This was said in LATE JULY, when 98% of the board thought they were scammed...]
"Thank you Paul. Patience.I don't believe this stock is "dead."
It's still trading a boatload of shares every day....
The only reason peeps lost money is because their [patience ran out."
There ya go Danny and all. You ONLY LOST YOUR MONEY because your patience ran out! This company and Paul Taylor had NOTHING to do with it. It is your fault. You should have sat back, relaxed, and bought more. This was said in LATE JULY! A full month AFTER the last PR that sprang you out of business.
Watch the 'guys' tell you how it's too early for a lawyer, how they are doing their DD or documentation or something else...
It is always something ELSE but what counts.
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Danny: Have you ever noticed that you are one of the only guys that even brings up the name 'Paul Taylor'?
Like saying what you said is a big surprise? If one of these two/three other guys said that, it would be a big surprise for the defense!?
This is crazy, yet hilarious.
I have never seen such bizarre logic actually trying to be sold to you all. After 10 months of listening to their 'other' bizarre logic about how great Paul is and how great Telatinos is, you would now take their advice in any way whatsoever!?
Shouldn't you know WHO they claim 'sold them out' on the telephone? They claim to know who sold them out. Well, that's information we should all know. Who is this enemy that they claim calls them? (Is there really one at all?)
I hope you people are smarter than this. 6-7 years on the internet watching stocks and people pool together and I have never seen this. This is BS.
Keep those PM's coming. I will do what I can. I do not think these people are going to help for the reasons I already stated.
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This is a smokescreen. Read my last few posts. TIME is NOT on your side. As everyone knows there are TIME limitations on filing lawsuits. Time is NOT on your side.
You have been hearing 'when the time is right' from people that probably do NOT have a lawyer and may not want you to get one either.
Each and every excuse I have heard is geared toward...
doing nothing
waiting
depending on others
This is a recipe for dissaster.
Like I said, the RISK OF DISCLOSURE ENDS the moment a lawyer makes himself known to the shareholders. Shareholders are then free to call him and speak in confidence without the risk of posts telling about this.
That is a fact. You all KNOW it.
This is a smokecreen.
For those of you that have not been around the block, this is bizzare. It is illogical. It makes no sense except to help the possible defedant, IMO.
ONE LAWYER. ONE NAME we know is involved ends all the risks and complaints of secrecy that have been aired here.
Time to put up. If you don't have a lawyer, you better stop misleading people. Andy already said he does not have one. (He asked me for one a months ago). No one else said they have one.
You must assume based on what happened here that people do NOT want you to have a lawyer either.
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Danny: Exactly. That is why everything you do you must ACT after balancing the risk. There is always risk. But, on this board, everone really TOUTS the RISK of talking about a lawsuit.
Yet, no one has a lawyer that they are willing to PM out of post so that this lawyer can get more information. As I said, this is the OBVIOUS method in 99% of the cases I have seen.
Would it come as a big strategic surprise for PT or Telatinos to find out that some shareholders have a lawyer!? Why? Lawyers often issue their own PR's under the stock symbol of the companies that they sue!
This is all a bunch of BS and I think most of you know that.
Why do you think I said MAKE THE LAWYER KNOWN so that THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS LAWYER ARE PRIVATE. This advice precludes EXACTLY the risk that a few people are crying about.
"I called this guy, this guy then posted, I don't trust this guy".
Well, I am calling this crap out. It sounds like an excuse to NOT COMMUNICATE or futher this cause.
What I suggested ENDS THIS. Once there is ONE LAWYER involved, then that lawyer has obligations and it ends all this crying.
That is why I STILL suggest that no one has a lawyer and this is all intended to stop you from getting one.
Sorry. But, I have seen this before. Once there is one lawyer involved and everyone knows this lawyer, all the crying and risk of information disclosure ENDS.
I can't believe that I have to even write this. It is so obvious. People are not this dumb.
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Stockefeller sez...'I have intentionally leaked information by phone, only to find someone else posting the information the next day. These two individuals claimed to have never communicated.'
Don't you think you should make the rest of us aware of these people?
TIA
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Hoppy: I have again asked Stockefeller. I have also asked others here the same thing in the past. They asked me for a lawyer, so that will tell you how far these guys got.
Like I said, in all honesty, I would not trust anyone here who claims to 'know the full truth' and 'are chasing the bad guys down'. I have seen this 3 card monty game before on the message boards. Honest shareholder victims that pursue justice, as I said before, do it together and rarely play the 'secret game' that never seems to end. Their comments here are a facsimile of their comments 3 months ago. 'Oh, we got 'em on the run'. No. They don't. They could be lying to you. When you actually have a lawyer, you will see WHO, REALLY WHO is going to help. I will bet this board SHRINKS on that day down to a handful. I bet you will hear a lot of excuses from the guys with the biggest claims.
It is very possible that the SEC is already investigating this and all other things in association. I told this story once before at length, but, again, I told the SEC about an eggregious case years ago. I was shocked there was no action for a long time. I later realized that they were watching, gathering evidence, and even planting undercover agents to get their guy. Yes, the finally did get their guy and it was BIGGER, much bigger than I initially thought. Suspected? Yes. Knew? No. This happened time and again. You are already aware of the stock halts, arrests, etc., that I have discussed. This is not news.
But, as a lawyer would tell you, you have your own individual civil rights. That is why I believe that no one here is doing anything. Face it. The people that PM me and most of you here know I am not involved in this fraud. 99% of this board thinks it is Paul and his immediate cohorts. 1% of this board thinks it is me and will pass you smiley faces and whisper theories until you go away.
Anyone interested in a contact can PM me. When I have this contact, I will PM it back to all those that PM'ed me. I believe you have all you need... fraud, misleading comments, contradictory comments, RegFD, exclusive leaking, and the breaching of nearly every duty a public company owes a shareholder, message board manipulation, nobo list leaks, and an attempt at a cover-up.
You are aware of the STATE and FEDERAL securities commissions that I made you aware of. Now, it is time to take that exact information directly to your lawyer. If Stockefeller does not have one, then I will attempt to put all PM'ers in contact with a few so that you can chose. I would rather you find your own, but I have heard good things over 6 years on these boards about a few that are willing to take on penny stocks. Not an easy task.
In the meatime, you might want to get that 99% together on the same page, share emails, posts, etc... More than a few people have already made it clear they are willing to do that, including Danny. Some people are willing to let the chips fall where they may, while very few are afraid of just that.
Know the difference.
You know how to contact me.
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Stockefeller: I have been around the block for many years on public boards, penny stocks, etc...
I have seen people start investor lawsuits websites. I have seen people pool their talent and $$$ to get lawyers. I have seen those lawyers post to boards asking people to call them that have information. I have seen nearly every variation of people attempting to seek justice. I have seen people that wanted to remain anonymous unless they were talking to an actual lawyer. I have seen those actual lawyers release PR's inviting these exact conversations. I have seen these lawyers post their contact information on websites to save money. I have seen burned investors post their lawyer's name and number for the 'anonymous' to call. Some people just don't like to admit their losses in public. Lawyers know this. That is why victims get the word out to make those calls.
Many years. Seen nearly everything.
But, the bahavior of people on this board, I have NEVER seen to date. Many years. These "victims" are very different. People saying that they are 'getting 'er done' but not seeking assistance, victims, blah, blah...
The way that people on this board behave is the exact OPPOSITE of how people behave that are actually seeking justice and getting 'er done. The very FIRST thing you do, as I have seen done MANY TIMES, is lock down your victims. Get them in contact with your lawyer. You don't lose your victims and witnesses and let them eeek out the door because you're busy.
You do the OPPOSITE of what you and others are doing here.
Claims are just claims. This company had claims and didn't follow through. A claim is a claim.
I have WARNED people on this board and others about people that make promises of 'seeking justice' without ever doing so.
I have warned that some people actually employ this as a strategy to keep people doing nothing, thinking someone else is.
Well, push has come to shove. I do not think you have a lawyer. I do not think you have any progress you would share with someone else's lawyer.
I asked ONE BIG QUESTION in my last post to you that went unanswered: "Do you have any new information that YOU would be willing to share with another shareholder's lawyer?"
That is an easy question. If the answer is YES, then hopefully you will be contacted soon and you will be a great help. If the answer is NO or another non-answer, then I think we know where you stand.
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Stockefeller: I am not 'calling you out' on the legal issue. I am trying to help these people be productive. That includes being productive on the legal front. Whether it's a PM or an email or a public comment, I do not see the difference.
You have not made it a secret that you INTEND to take action. Therefore, it would come to no surprise to Paul or anyone else that you have a lawyer.
You either do or you don't. Saying you do or DON'T is not earth shattering news. After your comment, I don't think you do. If you think seeking justice in your own way is composed of writing and calling the SEC, that is one thing.
But, having a lawyer, like Doug Black did to pursue private issues is another. If you did, there would be no possible reason that you and your attorney would NOT want to make contact with other victims. Not doing so would be dumb, unproductive, and bad for your lawyer who obviously works for a living ($$$).
Therefore, I think everyone can draw the conclusion that you do not. You can investigate this until you're blue in the face. Stringing people along helps no one.
I have tried to be as nice as I can to you, in case you were actually following through. But, if you were, there is no doubt you and your lawyer would be reaching out to the victims to bolster your own case.
You're not doing that. Therefore, unfortunately, I think people should start drawing conclusions about your progress.
I just hope you were being honest about your progress. If you have made progress, would you at least SHARE that progress with someone else's lawyer if you don't have one?
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Hoppy: Absolutely. Like I said, I know of several lawyers who have taken on issues like this in the past. (penny stock)
However, I do not want to step on Stockefeller's toes, since he seems to have taken this quite seriously. So, let's see what he says first.
I am assuming that he has not been in contact with you (or his lawyer). That is why I asked him that rather long question. It would be redundant for 10 people to have 10 lawyers, when you are all dealing with the same thing.
I'll wait and hit you later if he responds in the negative.
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Gail and Sly and Stockefeller:
Gail and Sly: LoL. It wasn't a 'change of heart', it was a change of targets. (as you know) He never targeted PT. It started as ML, shifted to SC, and at all other times it was Maninfla, EVEN, Gail, others.
Stockefeller: This brings me to you. If you don't have a lawyer or know where to serve PT, then I am afraid you might be unintentionally misleading people that you have made progress toward your (and their) tagret.
Therefore, if you actually have a lawyer, you can PM his/her contact to me and others where this lawyer can learn more about other people's monetary losses and learn other facts that will help. If you don't have a lawyer, I think you owe it to people to say that straight after how you presented yourself on the board.
For example, I know several lawyers that might be interested in talking with you and others. However, they would not want to get involved if you already have a lawyer. Ya see?
Therefore, you telling people about this most basic fact is relevent and important. If your answer is NO and NO PROGRESS, then I am going to ask people who are interested in contacting someone to PM me their interest and I will PM a contact back to them.
That is, if you don't have a lawyer. So, which is it?
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Hey Mberto...
Do you realize there is ZERO NEW DD except the old DD from the last 10 months? Do you understand that? Yes, the company changed it's NAME (again). No. It has not issued ONE PR about it or ANYTHING for that matter.
You have asked for the DD. That's it. You can ask the same question 10 times and that is the same answer.
If you were able to talk to Paul Taylor, by all means tell us. But, if not, then that leaves you with no DD and nothing to say either.
Therefore, as there are people here looking to sue this company (as it was sued once before for fraud and the company lost), we will talk about the DD that pertains to this company.
We'll just have to leave Serf-Even issues out of it on this board. But, do not bother Matt when we discuss legitimate DD. I hope you understand the difference because you made complaints about people discussing old news. It is not old news. It is the most recent.
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OK. EOM
Mberto: You will not get him on the phone. But, good luck trying....
Number at bottom...
Concorde Resources Inc Shareholder Update
Friday November 18, 1:04 pm ET
PORTLAND, OR--(MARKET WIRE)--Nov 18, 2005 -- Concorde Resources Inc. (Other OTC:CCDE.PK - News) today announced that Case No. 0511-11638, Circuit Court of the State of Oregon, in the County of Multnomah, RACE TECHNOLOGIES, INC vs WORLDVOIP, INC ET AL names Concorde Resources (FKA Voip Labs Holdings, Inc, FKA Elite Services Inc.) as a Defendant. Concorde Management denies any and all knowledge of the Plaintiffs allegations. Concorde did effect a merger with Ontus Telecommunications; this merger was rescinded (9/1/2004) as evidenced by Nevada State public records.
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Concorde's management has taken the following steps; the "Ontus Shareholders" listed at Madison Stock Transfer Inc that received common shares as a result of the Ontus rescission (9/1/2004) will be held "stop transfer" until Concorde is vindicated from these allegations. If appropriate, management will petition to have the shares permanently cancelled.
Forward-Looking Statement
This release may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Readers are cautioned that these forward-looking statements are only predictions and may differ materially from actual future events or results.
Contact:
CONTACT:
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(310) 492 5203
Serf: Why is that such an 'incredible post' worthy of reposting? That is BASIC stuff. Not only is it basic, but you KNEW all of that 8 months ago, yet you still pushed this stock harder than ever and called anyone that posted anything like that a 'basher'.
Are you trying to make amends for 7,000 positive posts? Is that how you do it!?
LoL.
Anyway, we still await your explanation for you posting nobo list information on a public board, why you believed the source of this information, as well as the details of your private conversations with Paul Taylor that you withheld from the boards while you happily touted what he said.
You seem to be saying (but we can't be sure because you constantly zig-zag) that Paul lied to you, yet you do not describe the nature and details of these lies. I still believe you are attempting to protect PT by attacking ML and SC, which is a usual modus for Paul.
Therefore, your 7,000 posts still speak volumes that a few posts can't undue. You made hard represenations. You have a responsibility to clear or clarify the details of this false public record with further details that you withhold.
It is a very serious matter when you post nobo information while claiming to not even know the identity of your source. And that's just the most recent bit of evidence that might show you maintain a relationship with the very same people that most people here claim STOLE their money.
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LoL. Tele is wrong. Look at the VTI filings and you will a company over years getting closer to the brink of bust. That was Phil's private company that he 'ran' before he found a way to shift the risk to penny stock speculators through an RM. You can find the inside numbers on VTI in a 2002 NMKT 8-K.
TODAY's 8-K was a BOMBSHELL and wake-up call. No one likes the SEC sniffing around. That would and should scare investors. The numbers were wrong. Period. He can spin it anyway he wants.
But, the insider numbers on the Q were scary.
Look at all those 2005 conversions. Lossing lawsuits (or settling) and paying in stock. Missing debt payments with 100,000 share penalties.
Those common share conversions are INCREDIBLE and DILUTIVE and no one on this board does anything but SHRUG.
You will never hear Telephonics ponder as to why Phil will NOT DISCLOSE the terms of the VTI loan contracts.
Yet, he watches the dilution, the share price crash from $1.35 and he is HAPPY AS HELL!
LoL
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Hoppy: You couldn't prove that some apples are red, because there are also green apples and that would confuse you.
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Stock sez...'why are you people concerned with such minor details?...lol.'
Yep.
Bravo and Bingo.
But, new facts and details only help (as if you need more), so keep them coming.
LoL
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Danny...
Hoppy is the expert on public company duties. He apparantly doesn't think there are any, (Serf said the same thing not so long ago). They are real experts.
LoL
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Hoppy: I talked to a lawyer that said you were wrong, and he also laughed.
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Danny...
If that's true, wouldn't the June 22, 2005 press release be a fraud?
But, Hoppy keeps telling me there is no evidence.
Hmph...
LoL
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Zami....
Did you get through?
Not me.
I think Stockefeller's lawyer should start making some calls to the portable Beverly Hill's line for the Portland company.
What a joke.
If Paul thinks I am going to leave my number for him to call back for weekly Saturday afternoon rants or leaking and trashing names on public boards, he is wrong. The 'group' on this board has made it clear how they 'play the game'. Leak, trash, accuse, repeated calls and rants.
If Paul wants to talk, he should ANSWER the phone when someone calls, don't you think?
Let me know how that goes for the rest of you.
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RORFLMAO. This has to be the funniest Friday in a long time!
Ask Block and Con!?
LoL. Why should I ask them about YOUR posts on ***For the Record***?
You had two choices:
1. To post the accusations against a named individual.
2. To not post the accusations against a named individual.
Danny is not sympathizing with you (!?).
But, if your pucker up enough and keep repeating it, maybe he will.
LoLoL.
I have asked BLOCK and CON why they posted that. They didn't answer. I have asked you and you didn't answer. So, your remedy is to ask me to ask Block and Con again!?
ROTF.
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LMAO!
Danny's not mad about the moderating! He's pissed about the content of your posts.
How can anyone not see that?
He read the ***FOR THE RECORD*** posts and read exactly what you said and how you are trying to PIN IT ALL on Con and 'how EVEN responded'.
HOW EVEN RESPONDED!? LMAO. Is that how you take the focus off yourself. What an bizarre attempt to reframe exactly what has happened here.
Forget the ***For the Record*** post for a second.
Why in the WORLD would Con say you were investigating Choti two posts after you said "to no one" (ME) that I was really an investor!?
Danny and others here GET IT. But, what likely PERTURBS fair and honest people on this board is watching someone make the claims and accusations and then try to get off "on a technicality" when everyone in the room knows what is going on.
I think Danny feels like he is dealing with JELL-O, or someone who would like to suddenly BECOME JELL-O.
I assure you, that is impossible. Read the ***FOR THE RECORD*** for an explanation of the impossibility.
Danny likes CANDOR. Someone is not delivering candor.
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Actually, that is incorrect. If you dare, feel free to address it on the other board, where you will not feel the itch to moderate it.
LoL
My records show your statements and accusations directed toward Choti. I have them neatly in quotes. Every quote is your own words.
Yes, Serf, YOUR WORDS.
Not Wapi's, not Con's, not Block's, not Danny's.
YOUR WORDS.
I imagine you don't think your words apply to you.
;)
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Yes Serf, the SEC breaks their statutory rules if someone is persistent. Sure. Don't you have some phone calls to make today.
Please, more insight.
It's Friday, therefore, if you are not going to accuse Choti of nefarious activities today, you could at least tell us all how people are 'secretly buying'.
What's it going to be.
Wait, let me roll my dice...
LoL
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Broker.... As Serfdom well knows, the SEC will not commnuicate with you about any ongoing investigation. Period. Those are the rules of the federal government.
Therefore, the best you can do is continue to file complaints with the feds and your state securities division (usually Secretary of state). You can also try you state's Attorney General.
Good luck.
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NEVER give your phone number out! EVER! That is what PM is for.
If you really salivate that much for people that pump with unreal claims on public board that you feel the need to talk with them, then, IMO, you don't belong anywhere NEAR a penny stock.
They have no more information than you can get in an SEC filing and calling the company.
In fact, the SEC information is FAR BETTER than an online pumper YELLING $2.00!! In fact, they may be giving you information that is detrimental, false, and overly optimistic. They have been screaming these claims for years. If they called you and said it's going to $2.oo last year when it was at $1.oo and you bought, you would be DOWN 70%.
And yes, the same people were screaming that on message boards.
Come on, OK, this is I-HUB. It is supposed to be a smarter place than that. They should not be posting here.
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RE: Logicorp...
Hi Telephonics. How are you tonight. Tell us what you think of this.
"In August 2004, the Company acquired 51% of Logicorp Data Systems, Ltd., a Canadian company. The Company will pay $1,100,000 in cash and issue a 24 month $1,000,000 promissory note to complete this acquisition."
AND in mid-2005...
"the general technology service
business operations acquired in the Logicorp transaction in 2004 have been closed and divested. NewMarket has exchanged its equity position in Logicorp for a minority equity position in a financial services software company named Broker Payment Services."
HMMMMM. What happened here.
Where did the 1.1M in cash go? Where is the other million?
Easy come, easy go. But, you don't know where it came from and you don't know where it went.
Isn't that odd for a public company: not to know?
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If you build it, I will come.
LMAO.
Someone might want to tap Telephone-man on the shoulder and remind him I have been posting on THIS board since April 2004.
He has concentration problems.
Nap time.
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Broker: That's just Serf talking about people buying, no one else. He's been saying that since February. No one listens anymore.
How did you first get turned onto this scam? Fax, stock boards, internet?
Did you lose a lot?
Keep sending those complaints to the SEC and good luck!
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Telephone-man: After the froth subsides, you might want to address the substance of my last post and why you think Phil's VTI is delinquent in their SEC filings.
After you address that, you MIGHT want to address why Logicorp Data was shut down and why that was buried in the body of a Q report, instead of explained to shareholders via a press release.
They predicted a load of revenues from Logicorp. That affect should be clear and it should be addressed.
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