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Well I don’t exactly know if this means anything or not but at least CTDT is not on this list. https://www.tdameritrade.com/retail-en_us/resources/pdf/TDA101550.pdf
If memory serves correctly JD predates Chas by a good bit.
The chill is still on which makes it harder to trade because lots of brokerages won't let you buy. But not all.
You seem to be upset that someone was willing to spend 38.00 on some stock what's up with that? I'd hardly call it an uptick at this point its a matter of what someone is willing to part with their shares for what someone else is willing to pay when there is only a few sales a week there is really no such thing as an uptick or down tick.
I am not as well versed in this situation as maybe some others here. So if they don’t become current by the end of June and if they do get delisted what exactly would be the difference for shareholders. I assume that it would make it hard if not impossible to trade shares. But truthfully it is hard if not impossible to trade shares now. There being public shares in this company was an undesired consequence of the company prior to Snaper buying back the patent and forming CTDT. I guess my question is would that take the company back to private status.
Yes that
I totally agree Biz . I don't like the waiting or uncertainty anymore than anyone else. I have been invested here since june 2012. I am not happy about the many missteps over the years but I have seen no evidence that Chas has done anything improper. I believe that without him Ctdt would have folded long ago. Would I like more information and progress absolutely. I also realize that as has always been that this is a sensitive industry and laying low is a smart move. If something comes of this great if not I will be out quite a bit but I always consider pennies to be lottery tickets anyway. But I'm with Biz badmouthing Chas does nothing to help anyone make money.
Thanks for the updates JDWarrior I'm pretty sure that most of us were here long before there was a Chas here.
Highest of what. That is a ridiculous statement.
I sent an email on the company web page the other day. Got a reply from Steven today. He said things were progressing although not rapidly due to the current conditions. They are moving to an OZ and there will be a release to the street soon.
No you said Millions were sold right after his death. Untrue. You could say millions have been sold since his death but that is almost 6 months ago. Doesn't quite have the same punch.
Ok so between 8 November when Al passed and 25 nov someone sold off. I believe it was someone on this board. Who said so on the message board if my memory is correct. Totaled about 1 million shares. Not millions of shares certainly not the over hundred million Snaper shares. That is from yahoo finance charts you referenced.
Fidelity charts show no more than 35000 shares per day in the last year and 224000 total for the year.
I don't think that it has changed at all maybe been delayed a little due to legalities of ownership change. I believe he wasn't doing well for a while.
It's not any inlaws it's his wife.
Even IF that is true they have no reason to sell at these prices there isn't and has never been enough volume to realistically dump any great amount of the stock there would be no point. These are not people who are desperate for money.
Not without filing an 8k
Besides the fact that it would be against the law. As well as the estate is unlikely to have been settled yet. They have no good reason to be selling at these prices.
If they were selling they would have to file an 8k first
Well I hate to post this all but I just found Snapers obituary. Seems he passed on the 6th at the ripe old age of 90
Any updates on your trip to Oregon with Chas
The value/ worth of any property or of anything for that matter is always an arbitrary amount determined by the buyer and seller.
Someone please tell me what I'm figuring wrong. March 31 end of fiscal year. Plus 90 days is June 29 plus 15 day extension is July 14.
That may be I may have counted incorrectly.
Naval thanks for the update. You said that the financials will be filed on time with the extension granted. But by my understanding the extension was only good to the 15th of July. What am I missing?
Did you email Chris Cass he usually responds within a day or two.
Not sure if I missed this before or if it's new. I probably just missed it. http://www.centaurustechnologiesinc.com/2/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2APACHE'S%20PROCESSING%20SYSTEMS%20INFORMATION.pdf
Well if the picture you painted were accurate of course not. I don't think it is remotely accurate though. For starters 40.00 is about 3/4 of a penny weight. The 1980 assay shows between .01 and 1.62 oz. Per ton. I'm sure the trucks will haul more than a ton my pickup will do better than that. Plus gold is only 1 target metal.
I believe I read about 60 to 90 minutes on the trucking.
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Ok let’s try this again since you insist on dredging up another company’s downfalls. What does a lack of storm water permit have to do with this company’s plans.
Gitreal: If you disturb old tailings, you need to control what happens to storm water that runs off of them, contaminating nearby desert washes. There is a major wash right there, and is already contaminated - more disturbance will make it worse, and ADEQ will be all over it.
Still your assumption that they don’t have any required permits.
What makes you think that they don’t have the permits they need just because they haven’t posted them for your pleasure.
They don't have the permits....I checked.
Checked where and for what permits you don’t even know what their operation entails so you couldn’t possibly know what’s required.
You keep posting about what Hondo did but we are not dealing with Hondo. The same tailings that got Hondo in trouble are the tailings that Apache is proposing to process. Same issues.
Maybe same issues maybe same tailings. Definitely not same company.
You on one hand you say Quote The tailings are full of heavy metals. Then you say they don’t have anything of value in them. Well the heavy metals are the point. 2000 ppm lead, documented to be in the tailings, is not of any value, but it sure is an environmental problem. There is v. little gold or silver in the tailings, not worth processing.
Your opinion that not worth processing your opinion very little gold or silver.
Then you say there are no tailings on the property. Once again I ask you what are you using to make that determination?
The aerials show no tailings on the Johnny Bull parcel.
The aerials are not of sufficient quality to even remotely determine that.
Have you personally conducted surveys and assays on the property? If not your speculations are no more valid than a child’s.
I have driven through there, and I can see clearly from aerials that there are no tailings. They are on the neighbor's land to the north. They gonna sneak over in the night and steal tailings???
From the aerials I see no road on the property were you trespassing???
That offsite facility they have already said is currently in operation. So they would already have the permits in place.
Bullcrap. There is no facility permitted in Arizona to process tailings. Where is it? And how does it make sense to pay for trucking tailings somewhere that have almost no value, and huge environmental liability? Where is that supposedly permitted facility going to dump the newly created tailings? In a gully?
I don’t know where it is but I seem to recall reading somewhere that it was in Nevada. Again as far as the profitability. That’s only your assertion. As far as dumping them you are assuming that after processing they material will still be hazardous while I am assuming that the processing that they are planning will remove most if not all of the contaminates. Also permitting there may vary from what you are familiar with.
As far as the new tailings being highly acidic. That is your assumption from your Experience I guess but is only that , an assumption.
Not an assumption, the ADEQ clearly said so in one of their NOV letters. Should I post it?
You are talking about the current status not after processing.
My assumption from what I have read on Apache mills site is that the new tailings will be turned into building materials for another revenue stream.
Building materials with lead, cadmium, mercury, arsenic, and maybe a little cyanide? Lawyers would have fun time with that concept.
Again you assume that all those things will be in the product when the purpose of processing is to remove them.
Yes those tailings have sat there for 80 years because nobody figured out how to make them profitable. Have they figured that out now we shall see.
As far as there not being tailings on the property well that’s what you say but your definition of tailings is also limited to mine wastes that were processed . Tailings may be there even though you say they are not or they may be looking at mine wastes that were not processed due to techniques of the times either way we should know something within the not too distant future.
That is gobbledygook nonsense. Mine wastes that were not processed? Tailings, by definition, were processed.
I believe it was you that said earlier that there were no tailings there only mine wastes. I guess I’ll have to go back and find that one
Ok let’s try this again since you insist on dredging up another company’s downfalls. What does a lack of storm water permit have to do with this company’s plans. What makes you think that they don’t have the permits they need just because they haven’t posted them for your pleasure. You keep posting about what Hondo did but we are not dealing with Hondo. You on one hand you say Quote The tailings are full of heavy metals. Then you say they don’t have anything of value in them. Well the heavy metals are the point.
Then you say there are no tailings on the property. Once again I ask you what are you using to make that determination?
Have you personally conducted surveys and assays on the property? If not your speculations are no more valid than a child’s.
That offsite facility they have already said is currently in operation. So they would already have the permits in place.
As far as the new tailings being highly acidic. That is your assumption from your Experience I guess but is only that , an assumption. My assumption from what I have read on Apache mills site is that the new tailings will be turned into building materials for another revenue stream. Yes those tailings have sat there for 80 years because nobody figured out how to make them profitable. Have they figured that out now we shall see.
As far as there not being tailings on the property well that’s what you say but your definition of tailings is also limited to mine wastes that were processed . Tailings may be there even though you say they are not or they may be looking at mine wastes that were not processed due to techniques of the times either way we should know something within the not too distant future.
The info posted on Hondo was a NOV for non compliant leach pond. How does that even relate to an operation that has stated their plans and they dont include any leaching ponds or any other current plans other than materials being removed from the site and trucked to established processing facilities.
So unless you have been there and conducted a survey and inspection of the parcels and piles you have no more valid information than my cat does
My point is the aerial view sucks you can't tell from it what is where especially not a hundred year old tailings piles.
Ok thanks for the info. Checked it out looks like several spots on the parcel that could be old tailings piles to me.the overhead graphics makes it hard to tell piles but several piles are obvious in the northern end. Parcel number 308-04-003 if any one wants to check it out. Site shows Ronnie Buck as owner however these type of govt sites are generally slow to update. Also Ronnie Buck could be part of Apache Mills Tailings.
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I think its wonderful that you know exactly where all the property lines an tailings are located.
Also the operation as described could be classified as hazardous waste cleanup. Can't imagine permitting would be to hard to get for that. Heck they might even be eligible for Superfund money.
While that is interesting it is also irrelevant since. The company isn't planning on doing any leaching. Or on site work other than removing the material.
Guess you weren't paying attention. I already did