Yeah, but you'll still be able to post here in the Jailhouse and flame this sonfabitch. He gets off on it.

HA! Proof positive. Kiss the ass of the moderators like always matt. Lobogotti is a paid member so naturally you'd kowtow to him and let someone out of here who's not a paid member right?

The whole act here is getting more transparent by the day.

Why are you kissing this SOB's ass Crow? You claim to be a 78 year old man in your profile and yet you're concerned about what some asshole who's old enough to be your son or grandson has done to your account here? lol! I think we've hit a new low today.

The guy is a loser Crow. And Grubmaster Dave is no better. These guys are total control freaks and IHUB is nothing more than a boiler room for the exclusive.

Well good for you. Simply stating what goes on here in my personal opinion. Nothing else.

Changes in email addresses make little difference. I've used tons of aliases knowing full well they'll get deleted so who gives a shit.

You will find Matthew enjoys keeping people in here for his own sick, personal amusement and to augment his feelings of importance. The same goes for grubby Dave.

He even 'toasted' my account and then for some reason reinstated it, but won't let me out of this asinine jailhouse so I ask what's the point?

Anyone who believes these assholes actually means what they say is being fooled big time. It's all a game. Nothing more. That anyone submits to it is frankly laughable. It's obvious what goes on here. Kiss the ass of the mods who provide the income to Matt and Dave to run this site and line their pockets, while quietly threatening others with their subscriptions when they spam or whatever and indefinitely keep others in here who don't pay and observe them like hamsters spinning a wheel in a locked cage.

Truly a sick freakshow.

Pucker up! LOL! Sell your soul out to this shyster.

Hey Matt...what did you do before you got started with IHUB anyways? I mean what is your background and education because I'm hoping it was more than flipping burgers at McD's or waiting tables at Red Lobster.

This is your last chance. If you manage to wind up in here again, you will be terminated.

What a joke you are Matthew. You said this to me as well and yet here I am still posting! LOL!

Besides we all know you wouldn't terminate a paid subscriber. Never bite the hand that feeds ya right?

You're full of shit. As usual.

dibic...of course not. It's for ass-kissers and sycophants who actually are willing to fork out money to this asshole so they can spread their lies, innuendo and campaign of misinformation.

As long as the sheisters, including Matthew, profit from the scheme no one cares. I suppose I wouldn't either in his shoes or if I was pumping and dumping at leisure out here.

ATTN: NEW JAILBIRDS...

Be aware that this asshole will put you in Jail just because he doesn't like you and kisses the ass of his paying subscribers. Matthew talks a good talk about removing posters' premium subscriptions, but it would be interesting to know just how many he has since IHUB's inception. Am willing to bet ZERO!

Reason: Whatever this guy might be in how he runs this site, he's shrewd enough to know that you piss off enough subscribers and his income will take a dive. Heaven forbid the thought off this slob actually having to get off his keister and work a real job in the real world.

Such vituperations Matthew! LOL! Speaking of bullshit, what gives with re-instating my posting priviliges when you specifically stated you were 'toasting' the account huh?

I recall you stating also that only under rare circumstances would you let someone back and I presume that includes this idiotic Jailhouse as well, so what's your game?

Keep people in here and and dangle carrots, contradicting most of you say in an effort to make yourself feel important?

Either do what you say or keep your 'bullshit' to yourself. Your reponse is what I expected anyways, just because you're such an asshole.

Hey Matt...Let's make a deal...Since you were so generous as to allow me back on the site, for whatever reason I'll never know, I'll promise to avoid personal attacks on the FASC forum or elsewhere that involve name-calling or needling. Also, the issue of multiple aliases...well, would be a non-issue. No need for them if I can use this account.

However, I'd still like the ability to point out flaws and debate the points about FASC or other stocks and I think that's a fair trade-off. Even if select posters don't happen to like what I say or agree with it. Heck, FASC is on the verge of bankruptcy anyways so there isn't much left to say anymore anways.

So what do you say. Deal or no deal?

Matthew...baby...I was under the distinct impression you had totally toasted my alias here at IHUB. Low and behold I find that indeed I can still post in this here jailhouse. LOL!

Care to explain?

Change of heart or honest mistake?

David...I ain't trying to convince anyone, least of all you, to come around to any certain way of thinking.

Just pointing out the obvious hilarity of having a forum called Jailhouse and acting like you're doing good here. Kinda like the Wyatt Earp of the stock boards eh Dave?

And I'd much rather be a violator than an ass kisser like some pathetic souls out here grovelling to a faceless admin for the right to post.

Fundamentally, this site is nothing but a boiler room for the paid promoters and shills that are themselves a worse scourge than calling someone who deserves it an asshole.

Hey Olico..can't respond to you in PM so here it is for all to see.

Go fuck yourself buddy. No one is asking for your opinion. What the hell are you doing around the Jailhouse anyways? Looking for some entertainment as well?

If you have something to say, say it in public.

You can start by getting rid of this ridiculous JAILHOUSE. There is no other site out there that employs such a concept that is both inane and pointless at the same time. You ain't doing anyone any favors with it and its obvious that its more for your own personal entertainment than anything else. Either that or you actually think you're contributing to some form of 'rehabilitation' of the poster who lands here in which case you need more help than gaboracs.

Well you're one and same anyways Dave. And I guess criticism of you or Matt is all foolish, and of course we should just all defer to your infinite wisdom and take on things. Right?

Here's a quote to keep in mind.

Arrogance diminishes wisdom

Hey gaboracs...

Try paying for your account since you're so desperate about the right to post here.

You'll find they dance to a different jig if a bribe is offered up front. Money talks and bullshit walks.

See you had to delete the post eh Matthew? A little too close to home?

I rest my case. You are a certifiable control freak.

I give this site another couple years before you have the same issues that RB and others have. Already you have issues here with multiple aliases, some of which you encounter, others I'm sure avoid your detection do in large part to their professional pumping tactics that never seem to cross your radar screen.

That is of course unless you choose to make this a pay-to-post only site in which case you'll be in control freak heaven.

Pucker up boys. Kissy his ass to make sure you can post here at grand old IHUB. LOL!

Pathetic.

Why do you care? LOL! Obviously if you're promoting other sites you have other interests and places to pump/tout right?

Yet you guys grovel before an anonymous admin and beg to post here.

How undignified.

Paid promoters here you say? You're kidding right? LOL!

What has this got to do with anything? Are you having a mental breakdown or something?

gaboracs...Obviously this is between you and Matthew, but I have to say that when he says your actions border on the pyschotic I really have to agree. Your post is nothing but a giant rant about the right to post on a message board.

Let me ask you. Is it really that big of a deal to be able to post here or anywhere else for that matter? I mean clearly if you lost money to alleged crooks it might be better to pursue your grievances through alternate channels. At least in the hope of recovering your funds if nothing else. You are obviously presuming that by being able to post your face off here the same result will come to pass and frankly I've got to tell you nothing could be further from the truth.

I can understand if you're upset. Your cirumstances certainly seem unfortunate, and coming from someone who has also lost money to crooks in this game, time does heal all wounds and sometimes you have to start from scratch and make the best out of a bad situation. Rarely do investors get their money back from companies that rip them off, deliberately or otherwise.

One last thing. I hardly think its appropriate to discuss anything pertaining to past drug addictions, criminal records or mental illness on your part. Doesn't have much relevance here, not anyone's business to boot and solidifies the argument you have bigger issues going on with controlling your anger and emotions that would be better off being dealth with in a private counselling session and not a public message board.

Just my two cents. And good luck.

NO POINT in going over to Silicon Investor. Same group of people run that site.

I say go to RB or Stockhouse.com. The latter is better than RB, then again, anything else. More informative, less control and no lousy moderators.

Of course people are laughing. The last time anyone told me to go the corner and take a time out was when I was 5 years old. This place serves no other purpose other than to flame wars and call people out on their shit that you can't do on the other boards.

"On the other hand, all evidence indicates that you were using two accounts at the same time from the same place on the same Board on the same topic, even posting to each other, and you haven't responded to that other than to say "it was someone else." That's what they all say."

LOL! It's one thing to have multiple aliases. Quite another to be posting back and forth between them. :)

Someone needs to check themselves in for obvious symptoms of Internet Posting Addiction and a clear case of delusional paranoia.

selfbroker...What a ridiculous post! You say that Matt lets bashers say what they want out here? Hardly. In fact, the complete opposite is true in my experience and for many others in here as well.

What is a basher to you anyways? Someone that calls your company/investment out for what it is? A POS possibly? Or maybe they are just raising questions constructively you don't want to have raised so you can profit.

Either way, the suggestion that bashers are making money is pretty worn and lame. I would submit to you the percentage of people actually 'bashing' a stock and that have a short position or any financial interest in seeing it tank is quite low.

You are arguing with a guy that sees nothing wrong with the way he runs his site.

Of course it's alright for moderators to post misleading information, flame some wars and delete/report those that call them on their crap. But apparently, those that do are in the minority and only 3% are legit complaints.

That 3% is the minds of the admins only and what they consider legit mind you.

grubmaster...

You're certainly entitled to your view on the matter. I tend to think the participation level and certainly the tone is alot different on the penny stock company forums versus those of traditional blue chip/NASDAQ stocks that actually have credibility. Then again, that's only an observation and opinion that I see here and on many other websites.

As for the rest, my style of participation beyond the precise reason I was put in this place, isn't likely to change. Although calling a certain moderator an asshole, which he is, I accept as not being within the terms of use, the topic choices and the way I choose to address an investment is a prerogative of mine alone and if I'm to be censored by a moderator or put in here as a result of such then of course it's also my choice to talk about it elsewhere.

I do not consider it appropriate at all when people tell me what I am allowed or not allowed to say on a public forum.

Then do away with the moderators because there is no place for them on those kinds of forums where legitimate criticism is called for, whether personal in nature or not.

Some of these moderators themselves flame wars and spread false information about companies in order to create conditions that allow for their own personal enrichment. Facts are what these forums should be about, not manipulation of the facts and booting people out and over here because you're unafraid to call a moderator out for what he is.

Based on reading many of the posts here on this particular thread, it would appear I'm hardly alone in that sentiment.

grubmaster...

I've noticed that at SI too. Used to belong to that site back in 1998-1999. Had to pay for a membership back then granted, but it wasn't too bad.

Jefferybraun's complaints about the moderator over there are indeed legitimate. Perhaps he couched his a little more diplomatically than mine, but I think there are serious questions to be raised about a moderator who over at RB had 16000 posts to his credit over FASC alone.

Going back to your previous comment about the complaint level and the percentages you posted of legit and illegit flaming, the one site that I think has it right at present is Stockhouse.com/Stockhouse.ca That place has been around for some time as well, used to be a free-for-all and the discussions are still pretty open, but overall a clean forum with little spamming and/or vulgarity which I believe is automatically censored from a post anyways.

And if people want to start and moderate their personal forums that's an option, but company forums remain under the purview of site administrators and the discussion can be alot more balanced. I'm sure you guys here have good intentions in the way you enforce TOU, but I think when it comes to financial discussion, personal attacks along the lines of calling people on their nonsense is just part of the process. Money, after all, is an emotional topic for most.

grubmaster...Well I'll take your word for it as you guys would know a little better than I about the nature of complaints, however as I stated earlier I still believe the right of individuals to moderate forums that are about specific companies needs to be reigned in. And for obvious reasons. I have nothing against people getting their own personal forum to discuss whatever and to moderate such, but I think the vast majority of your active moderators are nothing more than mouthpieces for investments and where quite literally anything contrarian is deleted and reported.

Legit complaints are one thing. Lack of tolerance for alternate points of view is becoming more prevalent here in my view. Take for example the jefferybraun999 alias over at FASC. Looking back on the guys posting history for the past couple weeks, I don't see anything there worthy of his being in this jail beyond pointing out and asking questions of pumpers on that forum. You said earlier you guys are objective in your approach to deletions and suspensions, yet I see examples like this which raise questions about that very objectivity.

Looks like Raging Bull has been toasted. Site has been down for 2 days now, although I heard rumours before that it was going to shut down within 6 weeks. Perhaps that came just a little bit earlier.

Will miss the place. Looks like Yahoo is about the only place left to post freely unless you choose to come to IHUB and SI and subject yourselves to censorship and manipulation from pump and dump moderators with huge financial exposures to protect from the truth about their investments.

It was a sincere post and suggestion on how to improve this site but I see you guys would rather focus on your rules of the road (which is but one part of the equation) in making IHUB a better place to visit.

Personal attacks you say? Well the reasons for that pertain exclusively to a couple of individuals, one of whom is a regular RB poster with nearly 16000 posts on FASC alone. The other, chambers52, is only interested in manipulating discussion to suit his own ends and any criticism of the stock has to be on the very light end to qualify on his P&D thread. I know why I'm here and am not arguing that point at all. I think both posters are assholes and I'm sure the feeling is mutual. To me its more despicable that they are allowed to control a discussion concerning a company that has questionable and dubious management, a string of bogus PR's, and a loss of over 100% to investors over the past 6 years alone. Despite that, they paint a rosy picture of it all and want people to see only their side of the story because most over there have share positions over 500,000 and closer to 1-2 million.

Here's another thought. For penny stocks at the very least, the possibility of insiders starting discussions and moderating forums here is a real possibility as there is no way to verify on your end or ours just who these people are for certain. You may think you have an ideal setup here, but there is always room for improvement.

P.S. one last thing. On the matter of attacking posters out here, I'm not saying that calling vulgar names should be the norm, however questioning the integrity of certain individuals hyping stocks should be allowed because of the degree of weight they are perceived to carry among those that blindly follow and those a little less experienced. We both know an eloquent poster can sway the undecided or keep the faith among those that are having second thoughts.

The first step to removing the image of this place being a virutal boiler room is to take away the right of individuals to moderate their own personal forums when it comes to the discussion of actual companies.

If people want to set up their own board to talk about their investments and share information about various stocks etc, then that would be ideal for a moderator role. But when actual company discussion boards are being controlled by mindless freaks with too much financial exposure it becomes very dangerous indeed. Those kinds of forums should be moderated/monitored by admin and the removal of posts, except those that are vulgar or off-topic to the extreme, taken with a great deal of caution. As it stands I'm sure Matt and grubby wouldn't want the extra work load when company shills can do it for them, but that's my sentiment on the matter.

Otherwise you're better off at RB, Yahoo or AOL, anywhere but here to get your information on a stock. This place is fundamentally about putting lots of makeup on an ugly pig of an investment.

What did you expect. Paying a membership to post is worth it to those people. If you can control discussion and manipulate the forum, its worth the $100 a year to belong here considering the kinds of profits you may reap from pumping crap stocks at others expense.

You got that right salmonslayer...IHUB in my experience with forums is the most polished boiler room out there today. The idea that individuals can shill a stock and moderate their own forums to control discussion is beyond belief.

And Matt is nothing more than a facilitator of unethical behaviour. If a certain moderator is an asshole he deserves to be called such regardless.

And the only reason people pump here is that unlike Yahoo or RB they can't control the discussion or delete posts. They need a much more orchestrated effort to do so on those sites whereas here one complaint is all it takes.

You guys suspend singh for that? Spamming may be annoying but that's all it is and frankly this is ridiculous.

I don't mind a stock pick every now and then thrown my way if it sounds interesting and sometimes I've made some good money on the picks, but you guys in admin are complete mind control freaks.

Get a life grubmaster along with matt. You both clearly have issues with trying to be in control of the discussion and what can and cannot be said on certain forums. You want to impose posting limits that's fine, but putting people in here for what singh did is nothing short of ridiculous.

That a JAIL board even exists is in fact ridiculous. It takes all kinds I guess.

I don't know how many of you here are paying members of this site, but that anyone would pay as much as $90 for annual membership here and let this clown Matthew tell you what you can and cannot post on certain forums according to what a certain moderator likes or dislikes is just trash.

I'm here simply because I called a moderator I dislike an 'asshole' which he is. Won't apologize for it so I know why I'm here, and while vulgarity is the exception, I think mentioning (spamming) stocks on other forums or pointing out the gross deficiencies of other peoples investments is hardly reason for suspensions or deletions of accounts.

Just stop supporting this site with your money and at the very least deny admins the pleasure of taking your money if you 'break them rules'