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..Joe thanks for the Litigation Trust Report updates. I found it interesting that the Litigation Trust has earned 80.000 plus Dollars in the second quarter and 78,000 Dollars in the third quarter. Looks like the higher interest rates are a plus for the Litigation Trust and all of us who have Claims. Also appreciate the Litigation Trust for getting the Third Quarter Report on time, (six weeks after the Third Quarter). Good luck to all of us Claim Holders, may our ship arrive sooner than later , with a ten fold increase in our investment, plus interest, The theft should not go unpunished. since the thieves still have our money, in my opinion. Good luck to all of us Claim Holders ..IMO
.Joe , thanks for the First Quarter Litigation Trust Report. Been waiting for it for awhile. Looks like the Litigation Trust still has a little over 8 million dollars left to pursue Claims for us Class B Holders.
Interesting , do you think any us will also get mail or is there a particular reason for your mail? TIA
behzadzorro, True as you say. However I believe, that those who settled for the latest Settlement will not be eligible for any future Claims.. So this latest Class Action Suit will probably want to cast a net as wide as possible so that there will not be anymore Claims in the future.. Those that did File a Claim would hope that only a few did File a Claim. --, so that there Claims would be larger,. In my opinion . GLTA
Yes Joe these Dockets are not for the faint of heart, since we're not insiders. Never the less-- they are good to have, so that we can have all the information that is available to us, as possible.. Yes, the Class Action Suit is over. The Suit was done by the Utah Retirement Systems. However the Litigation Trust still has eight and half million available,, that they can pursue more money for us. The Litigation Trust went into details why they wanted to extend the Litigation Trust for two more years. I figure they can disturb or have enough dirt on the former Aegean Management and Owners -{with eight and a half million}- that another Settlement is possible.. GLTA}
Joe, thanks for bringing the Dockets to our attention. Noticed that the 3rd Quarter Litigation Trust Report was filed November 14, 2023 and they still have about eight and a half million to work with. What I found interesting --- was that the Litigation Trust is requesting, a Court extension {from April 2024 to April 2026} against the former Aegean Marine Petroleum Network, Inc-- Management... Which to me, means that the Litigation Trust, believes they still have worthy Claims to pursue...Overall the Dockets are a long read for someone that is interested.. Also as noted on this board, we are still waiting for the closure of the Utah Retirement Class Action payouts ..GLTA
Docketbird had information on the Final Settlement. Would also like to know if anyone has received any. Settlement payments yet, and how much ? Also, would like to know if anyone has had any previous experience with Final Settlement Cases such as this one. . How long does it take for the payouts to go out , would 1 to 2 weeks be normal ?
..There were no settlement objections in regard to the Spyros Giannotis and Dimitris Melissanidis Cases today. The Utah Retirement Systems Class Action Case is Final. The payouts will go to those who QUALIFY now, as reasonably as possible without delay. as per Court agreements...This appears to be the way things played out today in Court today as far as I can tell ......Good Luck to All Class B Litigation Trust Unit Holders.
..Yes more time is involved . This is part of the Utah Retirement Class Action Suit for those who owned shares in the time period. For more information visit; www.aegeansecuritieslitigation.com or call 1-877-888-9760. Hope this helps. also there are other lawsuits for the Class B LTU Holders. At the moment it appears the ones who have shares in the Utah Retirement Systems class action will receive some recoveries if they have a qualified claim. Good luck to all class B LTU HOLDERS.
Received a notice from Docketbird today. Utah Retirement Systems Legal Team is having postcards, sent out again to those who have not yet returned one yet. The date has not been announce yet. However it may be worthwhile to return it, because you never know what can happen. GLTA Class B LTU Holders
..Joe thanks for letting us know about Litigation Trust Report, which seems to have the greatest weight to us Class B LTU holders. Been awhile since I've seen one and this one has been slow to come out also .I noticed the Litigation Trust is still active in pursuing recoveries, which is good. The Litigation Trust has over 13 million dollars funding, out of the 15 million they started with. While this has been going on forever , it still is better to have active winning cases than not. May our future Reports have good news, which seem to be on the horizon. . Good luck to all Class B Holders
Thanks for the update..
Has anyone seen the 2nd quarter Litigation Trust Report yet ? Usually it is out by August 15th. .If there is a delay , hope it is for a good reason.
If you owned shares between Feb. 14,2014 and Nov. 5 2018, you can file a claim, regardless of when you bought or sold shares, for this particular Class Action Case, as long as you did it in this time frame.. Also this should build a solid case for the Litigation Trust to pursue a case, for us Class B LTU Holders.. GLTA
..The settlement class period seems to run from February 27, 2014 to February 4, 2019, with purchases and sales figures to be listed on the claim .This appears to be the Utah Retirement Systems case , with them being the lead Plaintiff.. Depending on how many claims that have been filed , There are around 54 million shares during that time frame with around 27 million to be paid out. Those that are in that class period , would be wise to file a claim. All just my opinion and estimates . Also may good luck be on the way to us Class B LTU Holders.
...I have not received any notice from my TD Ameritrade acct. or any emails in regards .
to a settlement. More power to those that get something and may we all get a piece of the pie. GLTA Class B LTU Holders.
Yes I believe you are correct, that the Litigation Trust has lost its case in regards to recovering funds for us Class B Holders. An appeal has been filed, and I believe that the Utah Retirement System case needs to go thru, in order for the Litigation Trust case to move forward. My speculation..
...Some here may be able to receive awards from the Utah Retirement Systems case if they file a claim for the class period ...the case pertains to. It appears there case has been very successful.. Which also should lead to a stronger case for our Litigation Trust.
..Some here may want to call the Litigation Trust directly and Mercuria , to try to put more pressure on them to help us get our due recoveries... for the Class B LTU's GLTA of us Class B Holders
..Certainly has been to long. I'm at the point of praying for a miracle, with a promise to give 10% to a worthy cause., if this ever pans out.
..I believe the Litigation Trust does have a time to end. I don't have that information right now without researching it.. I do however wonder why there was so much optimism, before... about payouts and now that there is no trading in Aegean, just Class B LTU's... everyone seems to have fallen silent..
..My hope is that the Utah Retirement Systems can make a sound case against the ones who stole the FUNDS from Aegean Marine Petroleum. Then the Litigation Trust can have a better chance to recover our FUNDS. Another hope that I have..., is that Mercuria would throw us a $1.00 bone per Class B LTU , since they have made a bundle off our investment. Then we could hope the Litigation Trust to have further successes.
..I do believe that this will have a closure between 2024 to 2028, that being a guess from what I have read before.. However as you have notice that the Courts have kept extending the deadlines for most everything about what been going on with the Litigation Trust.. So we all need a lucky break. GLTA Class B LTU Holders
..The second quarter has passed and now the new Litigation Trust Report should be out around August 15, 2022..So we Class B LTU Holders need some good news in the meantime or a good Report. Good luck to all of us and may the wind be on our backs for smooth sailing.
..The second quarter has passed and now the new Litigation Trust Report should be out around August 15, 2022..So we Class B LTU Holders need some good news in the meantime or a good Report. Good luck to all of us and may the wind be on our backs for smooth sailing.
Thanks for the best wishes .Looking forward to a time,... when we will have, many happy days here... Seek and we shall find. GLTA Class B LTU Holders
Have to agree. I do not like having our fate in other peoples hands, when they are not keeping us updated. So I have been buying some silver lately , for some insurance , in case there are more economic bombs getting dropped on us. Stayed away from bitcoin even though I would like to have some someday.. Going to store a couple of bags of rice for for this winter .Ukraine is having trouble exporting there grains, China is hoarding rice and India has banned grain exports.. So what does I'm saying have to do with our Class B LTU's ? We first need to be sure we don't get slammed , robbed and beaten by anymore crooks. Then we need to work at having enough to provide for our families.. In the meantime we need to pray for justice, to bring our
stolen monies back. GLTA Class B Holders IMHO
..Quiet on the ANWWQ front. Hopefully victory is on the way for us Class B LTU Holders.
..Yes your right about the Utah Retirement Systems lawyers not working for us. However if they are successful , which they most likely will be. Then the Litigation Trust, can use their case as a template, because it has been validated in the court of law .Also the Litigation Trust is working .on various ways in making recoveries for us Class B LTU Holders, as reported in the Quarterly Litigation Trust Report. Hope this helps.
...'Despite these efforts in my opinion , I believe Mercuria should step up to the plate,. to provide some sort of relief for us Class B LTU Holders. There are around 53/54 million Class B LTU's , which Mercuria and its' owners , own over half of them. They are are making a bundle off of our investments that we had made in Aegean., billions. Mercuria could turn our investment into a royalty paying trust of a dime per month and still come out tax wise since half of it would be going into their accounts and our 10 cents per month would be tax deductible to Mercuria and its' owners. IMHO GLTA Class B Holders
That is a good question.. It seems to me that the Utah Retirement Systems and our Litigation Trust will have to move Heaven and Hell to find what we are owed.
..The thing I find odd about our Litigation Trust, which represent us Class B LTU Holders. Is Mercuria has funded them. I believe Mercuria, would just as soon for all of this to go away and be buried. So I would hope that the, Utah Retirement System would find a smoking gun in all of this mess.. Could another attorney pickup our case and give us Class B LTU Holders true representation in a court of law, after the Bankruptcy has already made a decision??. I would hope that the Utah Retirement System case can change everything.. Making all parties, former Aegean management, the Litigation Trust and Mercuria to be glad, to pay us what we are owed.. IMO GLTA Class B LTU Holders
Yes have to agree with you. It does seem that the shareholders and lenders were left out of the next boom in shipping and the oil price surge.. The only place that the lid could be blown off this scam( IMO) is over at Docketbird. The Utah Retirement System is successfully exposing this scheme. The Accounting firms are starting to align themselves with the Utah Retirement System and agreeing to come forward with truthful information.. The numbers that we discussed $3.00 to $9.00 per Class B LTU's , are conservative numbers. I would be satisfied in some sort of settlement with the numbers we discussed now. Rather than waiting for the Utah Retirement System to expose this scam later. IMO GLTA Class B LTU Holders.
..There are about 53 million Class B LTU's .. which Mercuria owns many of them. Just thinking that a billion dollars is a 1,000 million dollars... With shipping and oil prices at record prices (at least soon to be), Mercuria has to be making billions of dollars now days..
..So now I often wonder why Mercuria doesn't simply give us a cash offer for our Class B LTU's of lets say $3.00 per unit.. With Mercuria owning oved half of the Class B LTU's , the most they would half to pay those, who would want to redeem their Class B's would be around 81 million dollars.. This would make many of us whole again.. IMHO GLTA Class B Holders...
interesting
..Dimitris made an excellent buy . 20 million for 400 acres , with 200 acre industrial building.(figures rounded out). Should be plenty of money to pay us back when the time arrives. Thanks for the updates from Greece. vagelis.
Seems to be a day of doubles. Investorshub made mine a double too, while editing.. At least we're filling the dead space here, while waiting for this beast to come alive.
Stay tuned, wish I knew. Maybe someone can clear this up sooner than later. My understanding is we are waiting for a 65 cent to $3.00 distribution. However the Litigation Trust Report hasn't cleared that up.. GLTA Class B LTU Holders
..Like you Chy3a , I have to wonder why the Litigation Trust doesn't provide us more details on their progress.
.. The Litigation Trust has nearly 14 million dollars to pursue claims, which is mostly borrowed money. The Litigation Trust does not provide us their fee schedule or how much is owed to Class A Litigation Trust Units. As we all know the Class A LTU's have to paid first.. Then the Class B LTU's are next in line to be paid..
..The valid Bankruptcy Claims have been mostly paid, as far as I know. If someone knows something otherwise, it would be good to hear the details..
..The equity claims have been converted to Class B Litigation Trust Units. If this has been finalized , not sure yet. Also the Utah Retirement Systems is the Lead Plaintiff in a Shareholder lawsuit. Which they appear to be winning handily. My hope is that this will work in our favor, in some way..
..Dimitris Meliissanidis is heading to jail for assault crimes. So I hope this will be a wake up call to the Courts about his character .
..It appears to me that the Litigation Trust Report gives us limited information, other than an unaudited financial statement.. Hope more more good news will be on the way. GLTA Class B Holders
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..Like you Chy3a , I have to wonder why the Litigation Trust doesn't provide us more details on their progress.
.. The Litigation Trust has nearly 14 million dollars to pursue claims, which is borrowed money. The Litigation Trust does not provide us their fee schedule or how much is owed to Class A Litigation Trust Units. As we all know the Class A LTU's have to paid first.. Then the Class B LTU's are next in line to be paid..
..The valid Bankruptcy Claims have been mostly paid, as far as I know. If someone know something otherwise, it would be good to hear the details..
..The equity claims have been converted to Class B Litigation Trust Units. If this has been finalized , not sure yet. Also the Utah Retirement Systems is the Lead Plaintiff in a Shareholder lawsuit. Which they appear to be winning handily. My hope is that this will work in our favor, in some way..
..It appears to me that the Litigation Trust Report gives us limited information, other than an unaudited financial statement.. Hope more more good news will be on the way. GLTA Class B Holders
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.Interesting article vagelis, dated May 14 2022...Athens Court unanimously sentence Dimitris Melissanidis to 12 months in prison, without any mitigation, due to the heaviest criminal record...
..I might as well add, while he is locked up, the Court should drain his bank accounts, and give us our money back.
First quarter Litigation Trust Report should be out today or Monday, per past practices . GLTA Class B Holders.
Interesting., I wonder how much the Class A LTU's are still owed. This would be necessary before we could consider, where the remaining payouts go., from the 1 billion .dollars you pointed out.. IMO
Unfortunately it doesn't seem we are getting any real information, as far as our chances of a real payout. We could have a 100% chance ,of real significant large payout or none at all. All we know is the Class A LTU's have to be paid first before before we can start counting our chips.
..I would hope that there will be some sort of event that causes Dimitris and his gang to break down. Such as jail time for them , having there cash and assets confiscated, so we Class B LTU's can have our due large payouts.
...The Utah Retirement Systems seem to be having great success against Dimitris and his gang. The Accounting firms have agreed to cooperate, with the Utah Retirement Systems.. With the bundles of cash and assets that Dimitris and his gang have , the Litigation Trust still has a real chance of getting a large payout, by following The Utah Retirement Systems play book. Dimitris and his gang are still on the hot seat squirming . As long as our Litigation Trust is alive, we are alive.
..So sometimes I have to wonder if those that say we won't get anything are none other than Dimitris and his gang posting, because no one can really know at this point.. However the Litigation does have a real chance of getting recoveries for us, despite our complaints.. My complaint is Mercuria should give us some payouts, due to the fact their making bundles of cash. They can also buy our Class B for $3.00 per unit for those that want to surrender them JMHO
Like others I would like to see where you get your information.. I have to wonder how much cash Mercuria found hidden in old the Aegean Marine Petroleum Network when they acquired .it from bankruptcy. That being said , I wonder how the Litigation Trust can go after missing funds from the previous owners and managers and look away when it comes to Mercuria. It seems to me the Litigation Trust should leave no stone unturned to get the Class B LTU's recoveries back. IMO
I believe it has to do with the bankruptcy. Not really anything related to our Litigation Trust Units. However I believe, there is nothing to stop Mercuria or Minervia Bunker to have some sort ,of final payout for us, when this is all over.. Maybe someone would have a better opinion. JMHO
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