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because it's a waste of time. BORK is the land of nothing. And your time would be better spent working part time at McDonalds ... not that there is anyting wrong about working @ McDonalds. Just saying...
Seriously ... with the new research facility successfully testing new applications of KRYRON, with all the new research and testing partners, with all the new youtube videos, with all the new positive energy at BORK, with the new intellectual property (patents)
developed by JB ... I find it amazing that BORK stock is still stuck at a penny per share. Why is this? I just can't understand why the share price has not gone up like a rocket.
Key word is "IF" the technologywas superior. And if you could actually deliver the product. And if you did not a conviction for a 1985 armed robery ... maybe people would talk to JB about tactical armor.
The new clean and sober JB with new positive energy has done exactly what for the shareholders???? That's right exactly nothing!!!
Exactly what is the new clean and sober JB going to do for the shareholders in the future???? Exactly nothing!!!OOPS that's not right. He is going to send us meaningless tweets and you tube
videos. Exactly what we don't need.
Ever notice how good news travels fast, while bad news like at BORK travels very slowly ?????
Looks like C. J. Condom is not doing her job. A simple administrative task can not be performed. And do any of you seriously think these people can start, organize or operate a company to engineer, manufacture, sell, distribute, manage the accounts payable/receivable, manage purchase orders, ship and deliver any kind of product on any scale that would generate net profits.
Well that should not be a problem since JB returned 395 million shares of stock to the company treasury then increased the royalty PAYMENTS he will receive ON the sales of KRYRON based products. so he can easily issue 2 million shares of stock to cover that expense. That is unless he has already issued that 395 million shares for something else and not reported it.
He has probably already issued that to himself for some other phantom services he performed for BORK ... but doesn't want to tell
anyone about it. Filing the quarterly would have to show the issuance. That's why we won't see the quarterly report any time soon.
The $20,000 expense is hog wash
If you ever noticed during these demos JB never leaves the vests that were shot behind.
Same thing with Ultra Armor. After playing with the KRYRON JB packed them all up and left with them. And would not or could not answer any technical questions about KRYRON. JB has never left any real KRYRON with any one so they could do any engineering analysis.
Only the NIJ was allowed to keep any of the real KRYRON and the NIJ did not perform any engineering analysis on the KRYRON
The materials required to make the magic dust are readily available and not that expensive. The misunderstanding you have about the process and materials to make KRYRON is the false message JB wanted you to have.
Why do you think JB gave Pratt & Whitney substandard KRYRON for their testing?????? Because KRYRON can easily be reverse-engineered and duplicated And his patents are not defensible. I was told of this info in confidence. Maybe I should make a call to see if my source would come back on this board and explain. All of my detractors would be stunned if a lot of this info was revealed by people with direct first hand info about JB. This new clean and sober JB with positive energy is another false message and a load of crap!!!!
What Juan Mendoza told you about others having the ability to make KRYRON is a lie. I have spoken with people who can make KRYRON and have made KRYRON. Juan Mendoza is as corrupt as JB
The few of us that do consider it a public service and do not want to enable JB to con more people into putting their hard earned money down a black hole which will benefit only JB. As JB has said several times to several people ... "I don't give s sh_t about these stockholders". He believes all the money people have invested in BORK belongs to him
Or it could be the IRS or the state of AZ wanting to be paid past due employment taxes for all the former BOrK employees that JB stiffed by not paying them their wages. JB has screwed everyone who invested money or time in BORK. Also those holding receipts for the undisclosed side deals are now seeing the writing on the wall and may be pulling the plug on JB. These folks providing private financing and almost free use of assets to BORK in return for a royalty (a payment based on a percentage of the sales of KRYRON products) are coming to the conclusion that there will be no sales from which they can recoup some of their lost investment in BORK/JB. They are now seeing there are no testing partners, no manufacturing partners and no sales of any KRYRON based products. All of JB's efforts were aimed at creating interest in KRYRON for the purpose of getting new investors to purchase BORK stock so it would pump the stock price so JB could then get paid when he dumps his massive amount of stock. Then ride off with his saddlebags full of cash and leave everyone else in the dust with BORK in a pile of ashes.
Well that's not going to happen as JB has just run out of rope only having attracted one new follower to this site over the last 3 years.
So Juan Mendoza ... you need to find another gig/job.
And JB you need to buy a portable A/C unit because it is very hot this time of year when you will have to hang out in C. J. Condom's garage. You might also get one of those mini-fridges so you can keep a nice supply of cold beer on hand
Maybe BORK is just overwhelmed with sales orders to fill and ship. Don't have time because everyone is working 14 hour days just keep up with sales demand. They also may even have Juan Mendoza in there pulling KRYRON wire ... LOL
This little birdie had first hand direct knowledge as it was at one time a BORK insider. Hate to burst your bubble because it is neither
gossip nor hearsay. Trust me, I'd love to find some positive verifiable info on what is going on at BORK that may be of a benefit
to the shareholders. Only thing going on at BORK is JB posting misleading tweets and youtube videos. Well, that along with the BORK
operating officer Robert Callesen spending his time trying to sell "plankets" via the internet
A little birdie flew into my patio and told be JB is back on the bottle. So, now Juan Mendoza spends most of his time walking the office picking up empty bottles so the place doesn't look like
there was a "frat party" all the time.
And C. J. Condom is busy clearing some space in her garage so JB will have a place to hang out. Look for JB to be selling some of his stock so he can purchase a portable A/C unit. Checking the weather channel ... it said Phoenix will hit 116 deg today ... so JB is going to need it ... LOL.
The Milkman asked
"Anyone have any more information?
As to: "What is wrong at Bourque Industries?"
There is only one thing wrong at BORK and those who have been in this for a few years knows what is wrong at BORK ....AND THAT IS JOHN BOURQUE. The only person that has not been screwed by JB was good old Jared Metz. As a matter of fact Jared Metz screwed JB out of a bunch of money. JB even tried to take him to court ... but that went no where. You see BORK was a scam from the very start and JB needed some place to put all his ill gotten gains. That is where Jared Metz comes into the picture. Jared was a very successful con artist and he is also a SWISS citizen.
Ever wonder how Metz got to be such a large shareholder? Metz convinces JB that Switzerland is a safe place to park money, but only if you can control the bank over there. But that would take billions of dollars in deposits to do that. But for a lot less money you could start up your own bank over there. Metz lets JB know he could start up a small bank over there because he is a Swiss citizen and has some connections. JB is now all ears and thinks this is the perfect solution to hide and protect all the money he is planning on screwing the stupid shareholders out of.
So, now Bourque Industries will be the engine that drives the "BIG SCAM". Jared Metz will set up a Swiss Banking business. When the time is right JB can dump a boat load of stock, run off to Switzerland with Jared Metz and have all their ill gotten fortune
safely stashed in a Swiss Bank safe from all those stupid shareholders and any one else that has a claim to the money.
But, this is going to cost JB some money to have Jared Metz do all this Swiss Banking set up. So, here comes "Full Circle Trust"
and Jared Metz with a huge amount of stock in BORK and cash from JB's sale of stock.
Only problem for JB was Jared Metz did not set up a Swiss Banking
Company but kept the cash and is also still a major stockholder in BORK via "Full Circle Trust".
When I got the first hand details of this ... I could not stop laughing for a week.
I have not posted this earlier because I wanted to wait and see how JB's new dog and pony show would work out. And thankfully it did not work and draw more new inverstor into his scam of a company and scam of a product called KRYRON.
Sorry JB it is about the end of the line for you. And if you sold all your stock ... you won't have enough money to pay your lawyers
when this all hits the fan.
Was a fun ride ... just sorry I lost so much money on it.
Robert Callesen now hangs his hat @ eForce Marketing ...
520-309-0798. Good luck. Juan Mendoza will probably see this and tip off Robert Callesen so he can make himself unavailable
Got milk
I'll go back and see if I can find the phone number. He will hang up on you if you say you want to talk about BORK!!!!
On the other hand can you prove the hearsay is false. Based on JB's history ... I would believe the hearsay over what JB says or what he wants us to believe. Seems as though JB wants a lot of folks to believe a lot of things that are never true.
Honesty and integrity is not and has never been in JB's play book.
If you like being lied to, cheated and treated like crap ... invest in JB/Bork.
The folks holding receipts for JB's undisclosed side deals surely must be getting nervous about getting any kind of return from their investment. Soon they will be in the same boat as all the hurting in the dark shareholders.
I spoke directly to Robert Callesen about a year ago & at that time he was unaware he was an officer of BORK. He was actually upset that I was able to contact him. He was busy selling "plankets" over the internet. Plankets are something you cover plants with to keep them from freezing. He acknowledged he worked for BORK in the past setting up their website. I suggested he should be cautious as there are legal obligations of of people who are officers of a corporation.
He was more upset thAT A bork SHAREHOLDER WAS ABLE TO CONTACT HIM UNDER THE PREMISE OF TALKING ABOUT HIS "PLANKETS",. Sorry about the cap-lock.
I wonder how long it will be until Thomas Hansen kicks BORK out of his building. I'm sure he is in this for a royalty based on sales of KRYRON products. With BORK leasing the fully equipped building for next to nothing. I'm sure he is wondering if he will ever get a penny in royalties.
JB ... it is time for you to deliver or you will find yourself
working out of C. J. Condom's garage soon. And this time of year
it is going to get unbearably hot it there ... LOL
Does JB really intend on manufacturing and selling his new KRYRON wire? To me it does not seem like he is serious about that endeavor.
If he was really serious about this, then why does he not have all the partners in the supply chain promoting this product. He talks about BORK's testing and mfg. partners, but will not identify who they are which is odd.
For example in the auto industry you see Ford advertising the products and you also see the local Ford Dealers advertising the products.
But with the new KRYRON wire products you only see JB promoting the product. You don't see anything from the BORK testing partners
promoting the wire ... you don't see the mfg partners promoting the wire All we see is meaningless tweets and youtube videos by JB.
If this new KRYRON wire is real and economically viable why does not JB have all partners in the supply chain involved in promoting this new game changing product?????? Probably because there are no testing or mfg partners and this is just another feeble attempt to
artificially pump up some interest in BORK stock to give JB an opportunity to dump some stock.
The other JB "Head Fake" to make folks think he was really serious about selling the new line-up of KRYRON based products was when he returned the 395 million shares of stock to the Company Treasury in exchange for a higher percentage royalty on the sale of KRYRON products.
Sorry JB you have "cried wolf" way too many times for any of us to believe you.
TIME FOR YOU TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP ... YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF ROPE!
tomcat ... that is a great idea for BORK because JB is taking KRYRON
no where trying to make money off the stock with empty hype and false messages brought back to this board by his supportive visitors
to the new research facility. He is also trying to manufacture some interest in KRYRON with his meaningless tweets and youtube videos.
Without new investors willing to buy BORK stock the share price will stay at a penny leaving JB little opportunity to cash in on his massive amount of stock he holds.
What we are all watching is just another classic JB fail.
Hey there JB ... nobody is buying into your new and improved dog and pony show.
And Juan Mendoza ... apparently JB does not get it, so maybe you should let JB know that no one is buying into the new show with all his tweeting and youtube videos ... it is getting laughable
Hey there JB ... news flash. Does not seem like your tweets or youtube videos have been successfull in garnering any interest in BORK or any of the new KRYRON applications you have been touting lately. For the last 4 years there has only been one new follower attracted to this board. And that may have been Johnny KRYRON who just got banned from the board.
Operating under the cover of darkness will not attract any new investment to BORK or KRYRON.
But who wants to buy into a company totally controlled by someone convicted for an armed robbery in 1985.
That's right ... you can't find that on "mugshots.com' anymore because JB paid them to take that info off their website. That website is not reliable because they will remove that kind of info if you pay them $300-$400
Now that graphic is down right funny. Milkman, that is some of your best work ... LOL
Now Juan Mendoza ... you need to take notice of that. Because that is where JB is going to put you when you are no longer needed
John ... I don't have to prove it JB has don' it for me.You have been around BORK and I assume you have at least glanced thru the financials BORK has submitted and noticed the never ending list of "stock issued for fantom secvices" to people we have never heard of
plus the millions and millions of shares JB has issued to himself,CJ Condom and the other insiders. It has been a never ending pattern of enriching himself at the expense of the shareholders. And that is very easy for JB to do that as he has total control. It is a whole lot easier than running a business that manufactures a product, manages a sales force, developes quality control measures, establishes and manages accounts payable and accounts receivable. Sets up customer service policies and procedures and the list of other required functions a successful business needs to have in place and monitored on a daily basis. That is a huge undertaking my friend. And if anyone here believes JB is up to that task ... they probably believe the "Tooth Fairy" is going to drop some gold nuggets under their pillow tonight
By golly ... you just nailed it. You can not buy anything from BORK
And why would that be after 5-6 years of testing an demos and commentary about what a game changer these KRYRON based products will be.
Well the simple answer is that there is no money in it for JB and his crew of insiders. The quick and easy money for JB and C.J. Condom
and the other insiders is issuing themselves massive amounts of
stock for some phantom service they provided to the company.
Making & selling a product and providing all the other services that go along supporting the business, the customers and employees is a lot of work for very little money
JB says ... how about we build some ships. How about you cut the crap and tell us who is going to do the testing and who are the manufacturing partners. And who/what is the vast manufacturing facility in San Diego.
And how did you get out to San Diego??? Did you fly 1st class or charter a private jet???
BORK and JB have the same thing as they had five years ago ...
nothing but HYPE. No intention to sell any KRYRON based products. JB is trying to HYPE KRYRON for the sole purpose of trying to draw more new investors into buying BORK stock to drive the share price up so he can dump some of his shares. JB has no manufacturing partners. If he does ... who are they???
And who are the foriegn and domestic testing partners. Anyone know???
If these partners cannot be verified all JB has is HYPE!!!! Or "Dog and Pony Show" ... 3rd Edition.
And tactical body armor ... that ship has sailed a long time ago and will not return except for sales of one or two here and there. The Dept of Defense will not touch JB, BORK or any entity associated with JB.
If JB was actually interested in selling his new KRYRON wire ... why would he not want to mention the name of the Bourque Manufacturing partner in the news release?????
mdb1 ... you are right. Does this in an effort to poump up the stock price so he can dump some shares. Seems like he is more interested in issuing himself stock as a means to enrich him self. Instead of building a business that makes and sells something at a profit. The videos are to drive interest in KRYRON and bring new investors to purchase stock not to drive sales of any KRYRON products.
That video is meaningless
So, then I would assume Reliance Wire and Cable might become the exclusive distributor for KRYRON based wire products. My question then would be ... who will manufacture the wire as Reliance website states that they have numerous production facilities "world wide"
Philly ... what you described is a side deal. We all know what JB disclosed about the lease could not possibly be the entire agreement. So, as an investor,
I would like to know what the "rest of the story" is so I can make sound decisions about my investment. So, why does JB refuse to disclose all of the financial details of the lease agreement?
As a matter of fact, in one of JB's latest tweets he said "there are no side deals, just up front deals."
Philly said
" Well how do you know that the payments to Mr. Hansen are not coming straight out of Mr. Bourque's personal royalties/profits and not any of the investors profits??"
If what you described is what JB did ... then you just got lied to. That would be considered an undisclosed side deal.
That would also be an indicator that JB is continuing to act in the same manner he has in the past. Except he doesn't drink any more, if you believe that.
Because in the past JB's half truths,lies ,deception and manipulation cost many of us to lose 99.99% of our investment dollars. Now here we are today we hear JB telling us there are "no side deals ... just up front deals". And expects us to believe that the total up front deal with Thomas Hansen is that Thomas Hansen will provide BORK with an asset worth $176,000 per year for a piddly $6,000 per year and nothing else. Now I don't know about what you think but that flies in the face of any rational thinking or common sense. No one in their right mind would intentionally leave $170,000 per year on the table. The $6,000 per
year Thomas Hansen receives in rent for the 8,000SF building will not even pay the annual property taxes on the property.
So, the relavence is that JB has not changed the way he does business. He may have quit drinking, but the lies cheating and deception have not changed ... he is the same lying, cheating scum bag he always was. Only difference is today he "may" be sober. This could mean that even if KRYRON is wildly successful does not mean you will recover any of your lost investment if the profits are first directed to those holding receipts for the undisclosed side deals
Slander ...falsely ruining someones good reputation.
Seriously JB ... after 5 years of being lied to, cheated and treated like dirt by you and your croonies ... citing some of the things you have done is slander. Before you can be slandered you first must have a good reputation.
Your reputation is exactly why BORK or any company you are associated with will never, never receive any contract with any Dept. of Defense for tactical armor.
I'll keep dropping tid-bits of info about your past if you like. It makes interesting reading and absolutely is not slander.
Next up will be Jared Metz and JB. Ever wonder who Jared Metz is and why he had gathered up so much stock and was co-trustee for the "Full Circle Trust". That is the trust that holds the bulk of
JB's stock in BORK ... if you didn't know.
Well I'll have to post that up later as this is Easter Sunday and my thoughts are else where ... but you all will love this one.
Jb is all about side deals, under the table deals and back door deals and will always operate under the cover of darkness using deception and manipulation to enrich himself at the expense of
the "Hurting in the Dark Shareholders"
Question for you JB ... Are you still pissed-off are Mr. Metz??
Yeah ... I bet you are. Later for this one ... but you're going to love this deal. I'll call it ... "A scammer getting scammed"
............. Stay tuned-in for this one.........................
You could look at the lease agreement like this: The $500 per month or $6000 per year would not cover the expense of the annual property taxes on Thomas Hansen's building.
Come on JB Tell us the rest of the up front undisclosed side deal you made with Thomas Hansen. I am a shareholder in BORK not you.
And while you are at it why not tell us hurting in the dark shareholders why the FBI removed you from a commercial airplane.
I know someone who knows the details of that event, but I'll allow you the opportunity to give us your version of the story first. If your version is close to the truth ... I'll leave it at that. If it is another bald faced lie of yours ... I'll just have to ask for a copy of the FBI report of the event. And maybe even post it up here for all to see. This event was a few years ago, but it did happen and there is a record of it.
Hey... it is a simple question. No right minded person would committ to this kind of a transaction unless there were other terms
that would provide an additional benefit to Thomas Hansen
"Why would Thomas Hansen provide BORK an asset worth $176,000 per year for a pittance of only $6,000 per year?????????"
Come on JB spill the rest of the story. Are you expecting us to believe this is the totality of the transaction relative to the lease of the 8,000 SF building. Seriously!!!! Only $500 per month
which works out to only 6.5 cents per SF per month when the average lease rates in the area are averaging $1.83 per SF per month or
$14,600.$1.83 per SF per month.
That's $500 per month total for a property that normally would lease for $14,600 per month.
JB ... you tweeted this was an up front deal. And if you think
"your" shareholders are to believe that is the totality of the transaction between yourself and Thomas Hansen relative to the lease agreement of his 8,000 SF building. Then you are losing credibility and you must think your hurting in the dark shareholders are dumb as dirt.
Does any one here really think this is the whole story??????
Common sense folks. I know you want to be hopeful that you will be able to recover some of your 100% lost investment dollars, but my gut tells me we are being lied to cheated and treated like dirt.
Relative to undisclosed side deals:
Why would Thomas Hansen provide BORK an asset worth $176,000 per year for a pittance of only $6,000 per year?????????
You give a good reason and I'll drop the issue of undisclosed side deals. Just one good reason ... just one!!!!
Knowing JB's past behavior I believe it would be prudent to assume the worst until proven otherwise. Honesty & integrity is the Keystone for any successful business.
And the current policy of only releasing information specifically required by law leaves 98% of what is happening at BORK hidden under the cover of darkness.
A very sad situation we find ourselves stuck in with no path to recover any of our total lost investment.
Unfortunately the only way to shed some light on our investment would be thru litigation which would be in the legal system for several years.