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PZG went up 25 % today. It will drag TRGD along as well given the new reality of 13 % ownership.
Could someone in more or less detail explain this " UPTICK " rule that was lifted last year after having been in place for 70 years?
Thanx
you are right 2 weeks away.. financials could be sooner then the bigger news ......
THAT SONG IS THE MOST WORN OUT SONG ON AMERICAN IDOL. ALL THE JUDGES BOOED IT.
Stuck at .16
Trying to assess how my TRGD shares can actually benefit from the integration of our 30 % into the PZG fold. Which stock will actually benefit ? PZG or TRGD ?
Anyone with a reasoned opinion on that question ?
What else can there possibly be said about TRGD.PK ? All topics are exhausted by continuous repetition. The stock is dying a slow death.....go TARM
....minimal government....leads to economic anarchy. e.g. Enron, mortgage crisis, naked shorting, forced expropriations by local municipalities under the pretext of development, excessive legal expenditures due to the necessity to defend one self, high-handed policing etc. etc.
Chinese buying into mines and minerals is well under way in Canada, as well as into the oilsands
Lootie....in reference to your post 5138.....What are you smoking ???
The US economy is now being destroyed by the lawless greed of big businesses. First the mortgage mess. Individual lenders and banks didn't give a hoot as long as they got a signature on the papers. Reason ? Because they had no intention to keep these mortgages. Package them, re-package them and sell them to someone else. As long as they get their commissions. As if that is not enough now the legalized ,lawless naked shorting performed largely by those same financial purpetrators will hold back growth and kill off emerging enterprises before they even had a chance.....Individual greed as opposed to a more socialist type of governance rules the day....and it's being allowed to happen despite being against existing laws.
Why did the SEC announce a moratorium of 30 days ( extended another 30 )on naked shorting of Fannie May and Freddie Mac ?...and not on the rest of the stocks ? Just as the Federal Reserve holds the power instead of the government...the same holds true for the SEC....all lining thei pockets illegally in cahoots with the political hominoids and quietly sanctioned by them.Why did GRASSO walk away with 280 Million when he retired from NYSE ? Because he had helped them too to line their pockets.
So a bit more control, a bit more protective socialism would do the country a lot of good ( in addition to extending health benefits to all. After all Germans had healthcare throughout both world wars and thereafter...teeth included for all, even for Hitler who was Austrian living in Germany )
So now...what were you smoking ? ( in jest )
Gene Simmons. I saluted you for being honest in describing the European attitude towards religion in conjunction to everyday life over there. You said it as it is. It is those people who due to lack of travel experience and worldly knowledge cannot fathom that there is a world out there that is UN-AMERICAN.It is precisely the colorful difference in every cultural aspect ( including religion ) that makes it exiting to visit and appreciate all of this world. America goes a bit overboard politically using patriotism as a tool .The outcome is that some folk are left somewhat behind. That includes a lot of professionals as well. Also many Americans using religion as a shield to hide behind while committing economically related atrocities.
Hype and wishful thinking are the major components of some posters here. I believe that very, very few have a real idea where this is leading, and that includes management. Given the many concessions or alliances that PZG is involving itself in it is likely that San Miguel won't be sold for quite a while. Clavo 99 is still not fully defined. To sell it now would be foolish. So what then is a sinificant source of revenue ? High enough to participate in the ongoing SM exploration ? Facts, not hype for tomorrow !!!!! ANYBODY IN THE KNOW ?
Sam, please explain what you perceive to be problems of PZG
There is a global shortage of Gold supply. So it seems the bottom is the current Gold Value. Recently Gold was shorted in the same manner as stocks are being shorted on a regular basis. That is the reason it jumped temporarily over the 1000 mark
Why then did Tara Gold not participate in Elyca ? San Miguel is definitely worth keeping up wherever they drill.
Has anyone come accross info that TRGD in effect has made payments to PZG to keep their interest ? None of PZG's reports mentions payment received. Tara opted out of the ELYCA part likely due to inability to partake money-wise. That is sad, but would be worse if they can't pay the regular contribution to San Miguel as they had confirmed up to the end of 2007.
The newest press release from PZG, June 3, says that Tara has opted out in it's further participation in San Miguel. It's reference points to the newly acquired ELYCA concession which is one of the extensions of Clavo99. Therefore it says the participation in rewards has shrunk to a mere 10 % from 30 %. Does this mean that Tara lacked the funds to partake or is not willing to spend more on it ?
On May 9 /08 Paramount purchased the " ELYCA " concession to bridge the extension of Clavo99 into their previously owned " Empalme" concession. My question is : Are we part of that ? Participating in that ? Have the option to participate ?
If anyone has a real answer, other than surmizing, please set me straight.................Thanx
Want to see a total overview of PZG ? Click the blue link in PZg's Yahoo message board. It's all there. I only wished that Tara had the guts to publish a similar information in such detail. San Miguel is only a part of the massive empire they are assembling. Check it out for yourself. There is money to be made.
Mortgageman.....I don't follow your line. What do you mean by " nice try " ? I am not trying anything. I am merely pointing out that the May 1 st La CAMERA payment had not been received according to the statement signed by both officers of Tara. I had asked that question a few days ago ( if pmt. had been rec'd )
It is important as we have to figure out Tara's cash flow ourselves. They never give it as you surely know. So what's up with your comment ? There is no need to call, as you imply, since the disclosure is just days old. It's there in print.
Posted by: mortgageman
In reply to: wunsch who wrote msg# 4505 Date:5/14/2008 1:39:17 PM
Post #of 4514
nice try Wunsch..why don't you call and get an update on that..
check is in the mail..
glass half full..glass half empty.. I am the eternal optomist but come on. Make the call and ask the questions don't try to read between the lines..
we are close to take off
Re: La CAMERA' payments due to T.Gold on May 1st / 08
CURCURPE $ 350 K
La MILLIONARIA $ 350 K
PICACHO $ 1,000 000
TOTAL $ 1.700 00
The way it is stated, in this latest filing, these payments have to date not been received:
'AS OF APRIL 30 / 08,' LA CAMERA HAS MADE ALL REQUIRED PAYMENTS '....not as it would have on May 1st otherwise
The report was issued and signed on May 9,08 . Inference to April 30 implies only up to that date payments had been delivered from all the above mentioned three contracts.
So Tara Gold can, at this point, not count in this unrealized revenue.
If these funds had been received they wouild be recorded as received on that May 1 contract date.
Thanks Bobwin. Neither Yahoo nor Google had anything on La Camera.
Posted by: Bobwins
In reply to: wunsch who wrote msg# 4455 Date:5/10/2008 2:04:49 AM
Post #of 4466
not much info on La Camera. It's not Mexican. It's Canadians. Supposed to do a IPO but haven't seen anything.
Bobwins
According to Nostradamus WW3 is to begin around 2008 until 2015. The holy land, it says will be contaminated so no one can live there for a long time. Also parts of Europe. Researched from Nostradamus's writings by a guy named " DINDE " a German who allegedly spent 15 years deciphering his predictions.
So how much did PZG pay for that new concession ? Do you think they overpaid ?
Posted by: lootie
In reply to: Gene_Simmons who wrote msg# 4434 Date:5/9/2008 4:03:35 PM
Post #of 4455
Gene,my understanding is TRGD has a potential entitlement,if we wish.I do not believe it is for 30% though.I also think PZG would have done better to let TRGD handle negotiotions for that property.Rich/Ramario are great buyers.
The property concerned is small but very well located.
A few days ago I asked here if anyone knew if Tara received the $ 1.7 Million due to Tara on May 1 from La Camera. No one replied. I tried to track down La Camera but neither Google nor Yahoo has anything on it ( Being a Mexican Company I suppose )Does any one know ? It was due to Tara Gold, not Tara Minerals.
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On May 1 ( or before ) TARA Gold ( not TM ) was to have received $ 1,7 million from La Camera Inc.,for Pichacho,Curcurpe and La Millionara. Does anyone know if that money has been paid and received ?
Some time ago a had read through the published agreement. If I remember correctly it seems that Crupi has a free hand to direct the business as he sees fit. We are in with PZG if they had bought another concession, which is not the case here. The print reads " strategic alliance " merging exploration expertise and reducing overlapping expenses. A trade off in favour of PZG since they have the monies to continue exploration and the other party had similar goods in the ground as San Miguel and Palmarejo but limited funds, if any, all within the same rich belt. Seems a marriage of complementing convenience. The answers are big question marks where the 30 % participation ends. Time will tell. A PR from Tara regarding this uncertainty in clear language is a definite MUST and SOON
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Thank you Falkinator. Good research ! I hadn't come accross that on. I must agree with Lootie :Iam a lazy investor !!!
Now he can pound his chest in front of the mirror.
From PZG's Yahoo message board : A post about a rumor that Paramount is expanding into the property next to San Miguel.Just a rumor, but....maybe
Posted by: mortgageman
In reply to: nuggetman who wrote msg# 4266 Date:4/30/2008 12:33:49 PM
Post #of 4269
okay I will bite...DTC???
Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation ( DTCC ) established in the 1970's as a private enterprise through which all transctions / trades must go. Another monopoly without checks and balances who's primary goal is profit upon profit uppon p....................
From previous posts we know that Tara's monthly contribution is between 300K to 400K.....times 12 = ?
Bobwins.... Except for that one time I have always posted professionally to the points I considered relevant to the stock. That one time, chastising Mudpuppy, I felt it was in order since he constantly attacked me for asking direct, relevant questions from our investor chat group. I resented the obvious manipulative sales pitch based on nothing but empty rethoric designed to paint that proper, timely reporting reporting were unnecessary, relying only on naked hope. Trust and loyalty to a company is based on reality assessments availably to us shareholders. Insults and threats and demeaning several posters who did not buy the cheap sales pitch is likely to annoy intelligent people. And that is precisely what occurred here.
My question in one of the deleted posts has not been addressed, namely in the 2008 forecast of monetary requirements the estimated 4 to 5 million dollar PZG contribution was missing. The forecast that was given totalled $ 2 000 000. ( Unless TRGD had decided to opt out of San Miguel of which I had heard or read nothing )
Posted by: mortgageman
In reply to: nuggetman who wrote msg# 4190 Date:4/24/2008 9:18:34 AM
Post #of 4217
nice try Wunsch..
between revenues.. some ore from La Currita is at smelter... and Don Ramon and La Currita producing next month.. we will be in great shape plus the monies from La Camera
good try..
WHAT DO YOU ACTUALLY MEAN BY "NICE TRY " ? I alluded to TARA's expenditure forecast. That PZG component wasn't there. So explain what you mean, I don't follow. What do you mean by "NICE TRY"? Did I bash ? NO !!! Did I ask a very valid question ? YES !!! DO I have shares in TRGD ? Yes !! Did I lose Money ? YES !!! Do I wan't Tara to be more open ? YES !! Don't You ???? I am not part of this insider game. Therefor I ask pertinent, obvious questions
Tara Gold anticipates that its capital requirements for the twelve months ending March 31, 2009 will be:
Payments for mining properties $ 300,000
Mining exploration and development $ 1,000,000
General and administrative expenses $ 700,000
Total $ 2,000,000
DOES THIS INCLUDE REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION TO PZG ? Looks a bit on the low side,quite a bit low actually for the whole year.
This is the best post mudpuppy ever wrote. Absolutely true what he wrote. Democracy vs. capitalism extreme !!!
MUDPUPPY, you are verbally perspiring in desperation. Attacking people who are trenched in reality far more than you. You don't like the word " DILUTION " ? All three of us "accused " used it. Get a grip on things. You want to run the roost here ? You can't. The market does that for you. You are likely a fine fellow, but get real !
Posted by: MotownMJM
In reply to: crooked33 who wrote msg# 4103 Date:4/18/2008 3:15:56 PM
Post #of 4109
............., until proven otherwise.
MOTOWN...........provide proof regarding those 5.7 million shares in question ( logically please ) I don't think they are from Biscan's personal collection.
What maybe at work here is " DILUTION "
Posted by: point3
In reply to: MotownMJM who wrote msg# 4067 Date:4/17/2008 4:17:59 PM
Post #of 4081
Mo, why are you in this chat room? If things are so bad who is buying and why at these levels. Fear is a terrible component when investing, that is why short sellers have become so prevalent. They prey on weakness. What do you have to gain on telling everyone your negative views or are you here to save the shareholders?
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POINT3.....Business is best conducted when honesty is prevalent and the facts are presented in the prescribed timely manner that sincere businesses operate in. In this way market assessment and investment risk assessment will enhance trust and loyalty.
But when a chat room is used to mislead with empty promises and insults coupled with the intent to suck in less gifted hopefuls using unsubstantiated hope, some of us don't like that athmosphere.
My apologies to MO for answering what was directed towards him. The post just rubbed me the wrong way.
BTW ,case in point; why did TRGD hide the fact that the intent of the increase in authorized shares is used to fund Paramount until their finale ? It was said to be used for new acquisitions. So, would a bit of straightforwardness have hurt Tara ? I don't think so. Instead it makes you roll your eyes to the ceiling.
Posted by: Mamona
In reply to: mudpuppy who wrote msg# 4065 Date:4/17/2008 1:35:39 PM
Post #of 4080
I'm the only top level paid basher here. Wunsch works for me.
Motown was let go last week after the financials came out. He's on his own.
MAMONA....Good one !!!! I like your sense of humor.