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--->jaynlottyd,, you could be right. Time will tell now but they have to STOP with these PRs naming new distributors, etc,,,the stock is actually bettter off not knowing any of this. Because that was the scam of the past,, keep naming so-called high-end "distributors" then nothing,,
The only thing that should be Pr'd is WHEN, not before but only WHEN bottles have made it onto destination shelves. The end game is it doesn't matter who the distributoir is or how long they've been in the businesss or how many academy awards they've won,,,no one really cares if larry drives it there in his mercedes, ONLY thing that matters now is is it actually there imo
i look at it like this,,,if the company really has the goods, anything I say will make no difference, right??
we'll see what happens next and if I am satisfied, I will be a buyer again,,,so far its still very murky imo
--> thanks but has anyone been there? I just had another ticker scam where the ceo's addreess was out of a UPS Store!! but no one could tell until a poster did a google earth on it
unfrotunately hfbg is so scared from so many lies,, its hard to know the truth
but thanks for posting the address my brother. I asked before and no one said anything
--->i agree ta,,,but the question is how much time should they be given,,,that's always been the tough road of the scamming here,,,,they ask for time and before you know it another year has gone by and the scam is alredy played,,,
i feel like she's alreasy setting the scam by saying "were doing it slow, this and that". Next thing shareholders know it will be christmas and what will be done???
very, very tough here i will say,,,,
well, that can't be good either if the case,,,
--->well, everyone told me this is the new hfbg,,,so far all i see is the same kind of prs ive seen here for a few years now.
If the new girl was closing vegas and moving to AZ, shouldn't have there already been an office address secured that they could have given out? Thats how most business do it when they move. They ALREADY have the new address!! Or did they close vegas, put a few office chairs in storage or at larry's place, then start looking for a new office in AZ??? see? makes no sense whatsoever
o/s??? check the actual FLOAT my brother,,,,but gltu all the same, most here don't seem to mind which baffels me!
--->hooke,,,I certainly would buy back in to recoup if i had even ONE ounce of faith hfbg and larry has changed their stripes,,,from this pr, I can see not only have they not changed, they've prob added a few more.
has the new AZ corp address been annoucne yet??? or is that out of someones spare bedroom??
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---> OK, whoa nellie. I see so many things wrong with the 8/9 pr it's not even funny!!,,,and here they are
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mikp nothing more than a POS share selling operation forever,,,this will never change imo. Just look at the history
glta new bagholders here. wow.
--->omg, another bogus LOI scam pr?
mikp as scam as they come imo,,,r/s, scam sell, r/s, scam sell. lolll
--->that was quite a dump this moring,,,
larry at it again???
--->appreciate your input aliangel.........gltu my brother
--->i'm just sniffin around my brother,,,if it's what you say than nothin to worry about!! right?
i'll do some checkin into it and if I like what I DON'T see I may even come back and be a buyer...
I just know where this ticker was once and it was pretty damn UGLY
--->ok ty, I'll do some due-d on it
so a new company moved in and when I go looking i will find it and no moscovitz whatsoever??
that guy was slick
--->moscovitz funneled $MILLIONS out of bogus vaev revenues through selling shares here, then cooked the books to show it as a vaev loss
he was a genius!!!! last I thhougth I remembered,, he r/s'd this baby not to long ago
--->unfortunately if this is still moscovitz, VCMM would be spot on...this was a TOATAL scam and i'm surprised sec never shut it dowwn
--->vaev lollllz,,,does anyone know is this still crook steven moscovitz's scam company that he funneled scam money from in the scam spng days???
if so, this should be .0001 not .01 imo
---> word keeps getting around about hfbg circus,,,who in their right mind would even consider a realationship with hfbg,,,except of course larrys cronies,,,
when you ruin your reputation the way hfbg has, you will never get it back i was always taught
how long is the list of who wont even touch hfbg antics with a 10 ft pole by now?
---> yes all very messed up,,,this whole scam looks even more phony now
---> all i have to say is WOW!! typical hfbg here!!!!!
Truth, please tell me this is a joke......... It's either a scam email or if it is real,,,it shows how f'd up it really is
thank u for poating it!!!
here is the last run to the guy who told me there is no promo,,,now its game over
--->dont forget,, the words red robin dont erase 5yrs of larry scamming his a$$ off
there will have to be much more reality behind this now week in week out,,,proof is the only redeemer my brother! for hfbg, talk is toilet paper right now by their own doing
well,,,,time will tell (and sooner than later)...........I think we can agree on this:
""IF"" there is still a chance to salvage this thing called hfbg WITH larry,,,this is THE LAST CHANCE there will be
if this keeps going wrong from here not only is game over, but game will be nowhere to be found ever again,,,so for those that are so sure this is turn around,,,you had better hope ur right and this jessica is a SUPER LEGIT who can stand up to the past 5yr f'd up way of doin things imo
if ur wrong, this will turn into like so many other hfbg who????? black hole with no more chances
will be watching close now every single move for which 1 it will be
---> suggest u tell the company it dosn't fly my brother,,,it's their issue not mine,,proof is right there in the pr
---> hes also the guy who has bilked millions from shareholders and has not gotten anywhere.............. but hand-written labels and too much glue on labels like they were made in someone's kitchen at home in 5yrs,,,
if hes ready to stop the nonsense and go legit, he steps back completely from EVERY form of operations and that INCLUDES SHARES. Basically he becomes an uninvolved founder still allowing his image to be used by the company
Let me keep being bruatlly honest with you my brother,,,,larry johnson is a HAS-BEEN NBAer as is his one-time popular character grand ma ma. You have to be a certain age to remember it or him at all and thats not todays kids. They have ZERO clue who larry or grandma ma is. But as a label or brand, it's catchy because it doubles as both the character and a gerneric "grandma" image.
trust me,,,u do NOT need larry to sell this stuff. First (and i havnt tried it but many say its not that good) make it good and something peoples want to drink. Then roll on from there
larry has now tainted himself from doing legit business my brother. i'm sure most know by now and the word is out what he's been doing for 5 years with no revenues or profits other than shares,,,,just look at the books!!! and the popcorn trail to deceit is MILES long,,,
you coould start over with this if a jessica type thimks she can make something of it through HARD WORK now. You have to remove larry to get credd back. Once cred is back u can SLOWLY bring him back in as the character rep MAYBE......or maybe not. He may be shot altogether by now,,,trust is bitch to regain!!!!!
but without larry outfront the grandma ma name and logo still has value to build on if someone else is at the controls imo,,,,
u have to start from scratch here my brother,,,no 2 ways about it
--->maybe if the official pr would have included even a web address for Lehigh, some might have contacted. The fact that the pr only used redrobin.com, is indicative of foul play,,see my point??
hfbgs bad on that one my brother and they have to own up to it plain and simple.......
I was always taught, do it EXACTLY right or dont do it all all
--->Rightfully so,,,even she knows that photo was inappropriate to release to shareholders......she was probably horrified,,,totally the wrong message IF she's legit,,,I was one of the first to call it out and i stand by it. It was wrong from top to bottom
also closing the vegas ""office"" proves there probably was no vegas office (maybe it was a hotel room larry used for various activities),,,now we will see if the AZ location is a real office or a PO box or soemone's second bedroom home office
jessica has stepped into it here,,she might not even realise that with larry around she cannot succeed,,,time will now tell and I'll be watching closely!!!
---> i agree and hes gotta go if hfbg will EVER be anything!!!!
his exact holdings NEED TO BE DISCLOSED and all the shares hes sold over the years
inquiring minds WANT TO KNOW!!!!
---> just goes to show how f'd up hfbg REALLY is. From my knlowlege, brad was a shareholder,,,what? Then he started pumping out fluff prs to help his own cause imo......and this was UNDER jessica's watch not very long ago!!!
So now she's making changes. That's a positive. But it's gonna take a lot for her to repair all the damage dome here by larry and the rest. If she is the real deal, she has stepped into a hornets nest and it is unknown if she can repair such a broken machine. we will see. If she does, i will give credit where credit is due.
This move now to AZ is a red flag of course right off the bat. we will see what happens next. If she knows whats good for the company (if it's all sincere) she will completely disassociate larry johnson with ALL company activities and his holdings NEED to be disclosed to-- the exact share. he is a 5yr cancer in hfbg and she will soon realize she will get nothing done or repair anything as long as he is part and parcel
lets see what she decides
--->yes so far hfbg has been very misleading because in the pr they put red robins web address and not the one for the franchise group................so everyone thinks its with actual red robin corporate and its not
willis---> the quote was lifted from a published staff writers article,,,matters not if it's official, it''s directly from a legit source,,,either that writer paraphrased from the official or he interviewed the company on it and wrote it his own way,,,
ultimately, the quote stands because it's legit as it was written by a writer---> that means it's called a verifiable ""quote"" lolllllz
any further probs, take it up with:
DBR (Drinks Business Review)
http://www.drinks-business-review.com/
or hfbg!!!
--->agree....... ESPECIALLY after now alrady 5yrs of failure and scamming shareholders!! If they couldn't break the tea (if you want to call it that) 5years ago when even Snapple was still growing into their market, how would they now,,,espesh when a few other sweet teas HAVE made it into Targets, etc,,,already (because they wanted to be legit),,i can name at least one very popular indie sweet tea
No, larry johnson was way too focused on being a scammer and he got addicted to that easy scratch!!! and the retail world knows it imo
word gets around and everyone knows who is real and who is NOT
game over here (except for larry's continued scam play,,,,which i suspect he will contiue this into oblivion or until the sec stops his A$$)
ok guys,,,my last post here UNTIL mathew p dwyer lowers the boom
in this last post I will give you my sense about what's goin on here.
Maybe someday someone will put THIS Post of mine up in the stickies!!!!
First, mathew has absolutely flooded the market now in TOFS stock. The float went from 230million before he came back to now 900million. and this is how he has traded shares for debt,,,ok i get it. however,,,the catch is only a fraction of those shares have yet to be cashed in yet and my guess is mathew has cut a deal with the guys he gave the shares to that they will at first sell a certain anmount, then they will be able to just pound it once he officially releases his new start-up info about having no cash or aassets.......and once many new shareholders have bought in........and that's why the pps is holdin up so far.
so that's what i think and well see what happens next. Like i said May 05, 2011---> what will be next, i wonder
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62808100
and good luck to everyone.
--->i see VERT now up on .0006 now
larry needs a new car???
---> when the game changes, i change with it my brother!!!
and mathew p dwyer sure changed this game, oh yes he did
---> i got in TOFS well before mathew officially came back and began his games,,,i wrote the first post calling him out for not PR his return....see this link!!!!! instead, he used OTC like a weasel!!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62808100
He still hasn't botherd to explain to shareholders why he disappeared in 2008, has he????? If i were still holding shares, that would upset me.. It upsets me even not holding shares!!!