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You are completely correct; however, you accidentally swapped the tickers...you're correct statement should read:
"Watch what's going on in MMTE as there is a direct relationship to what will happen in TT-P."
I love these claims that MMs are keeping it down. All I can say is do the research and see what you come up with. Anyone that goes into Liebs true past history knows what this and every other Liebs play is like. Good luck!
Rocky I am very curious how you can still be supportive and believe in anything Liebs has to say? I am being very sincere and truly hope everyone at least breaks even but I do not see any reason to believe differently.
LOL...Will it be "fall out of my chair" worthy? Or how about Lieb's definition of imminent?
This is by far a joke - I will be amazed if Liebs doesn't follow in others' footsteps and end up in prison!
I certainly agree with you! I have said for quite some time I would be the first to openly admit "I was wrong, you were right" but we both know there is a more significant chance of me winning the lottery back to back!
It is rather amazing that the truth cannot be seen. Obviously I hope there is some turn around so everyone except Liebs comes out at a break even but that is doubtful. I don't think the full truth will ever be discovered simply because there would be significant lawsuits if my honest opinion is correct.
drews nice to see you still around. I certainly agree - there are a lot of 'hats to be eaten'. I find it difficult to believe that the legitimacy of Liebs is even a question at this point. After all the BS, after all the proof, and after all of the negative information that was found came to be true...it would really take a lot not to really see the true picture at this point.
LOL...I guess he's hoping for the next round of suckers to blindly buy. Of course something will have to happen to get anyone to buy this POS play.
If all things with MMTE and CLIL were legit then yes these agreements would be disclosed to the shareholders; however, the fact of the matter is there are plenty of legal 'outs' for MMTE and CLIL to part ways and not have to disclose all information (IE financials!)
So based on this common sense dictates to me if everything were legit there would be much more 'openness' to letting this information be known.
Think about things in another way - if one were lying (and not wanting to be caught) about something they would provide very little information and not specific details because details get you caught.
Hey drews how have you been? Seems like ol' Slick Willy did it again huh? All those connections with the 'old clan' and others far worse seem to really show the truth now. The hopes and dreams and 'pie in the sky' seem to be all gone. I guess we can all hope for a very short lived 'pop up' after the RS.
I have the exact same opinion as you - there are more and more that are realizing Liebs for what he is.
I take this post to mean you still believe Liebs is legit and everything is great except the PPS?
The problem is MMTE only has concessions and part of those agreements very likely includes some form of stipulation (IE production within X months or contract is null and void). Even if Liebs manages to pull in some money there is legitimately no possible way that MMTE will ever see production with these concessions.
Looks like Liebs is not having much luck lately! Maybe it's time for another CEO to be appointed.
WOW - this has exploded over the last few months!
It is too bad this play has come to this - there were high hopes from a lot of people this was a real deal. Unfortunately it certainly looks like the 'negative' DD that was found is much more accurate than what was being promoted by Liebs. I guess Liebs is following in the footsteps of the people he is surrounded by. Whether he was legit or not does not seem to matter since apparently it could not override the power of the people that surround him.
Thanks drew - yes I'm still around - I check in every once in a while just to see if it went to 0 bid yet. Unfortunately there were many that called this a long time ago. I never thought things would turn out quite like this but I'm sure it is not over yet.
I am really hoping we all at least break even on this but it really depends on your investment strategy (or penny playing) I guess.
I agree Liebs is just like the scum that we have proven he is associated with.
The concessions are one aspect that still confuse me and maybe these will be better explained some time in the future...very likely as part of a lawsuit based on what I'm reading.
I realize there are many people that did not agree with what I had to say or the manner in which I went about it. If for no other reason Liebs is in fact a liar when it comes to "No R/S". I still believe there are several aspects of MMTE that never made sense and certainly showed there was something less than legit going on. On the other hand I will also say that things with the concessions appear to be fully legit. This is and has always been the one aspect that did not make sense for someone that obviously did not have a legit past and certainly did not have legit business acquaintances.
Although it does appear things are certainly not legit here I will say that I truly hate to see all the people that I have talked with on here lose money. I hope for everyone here that we all come out ahead - I hope people were doing some flipping to at least help balance any losses.
I feel sorry for all of us for believing in Liebs and the false information he was providing to everyone.
Things sure don't seem to be very good here.
I think we all knew the information was out there about WL and company. It was all in black and white unfortunately.
It was very difficult to believe what was available for all to see but there was no hiding it if you have followed this play for any length of time.
All I know is WL and Company cost a lot of people a fair amount of money on this play. They did a great job of getting people to buy into it though.
Because it has been the same story for way too long now. It is a quite noticeable habit for MMTE if you follow it for any length of time.
The peak occurred around April 2011 and even then it was the same story - just so happened there was another HOT lithium stock that helped push this one so high.
Ever since that peak it has been on a downhill slide - quite often there is a pattern of EOD drops (or sell offs). It is often blamed on MM manipulation but that only works for so long - obviously day after day, month after month, year after year tends to establish a pattern of something else.
True but I'm just thinking outside the box. Never know what the future holds.
I certainly agree but is this MMTE imminent or real world imminent?
Doesn't look very good here! Is there any hope left that this and Lieberman might be legit? Or has every penny been squeezed and transferred to CLIL?
It is certainly a patience play! You have to have more patience than anyone I know. Or you have to be over your head and don't want to sell for a loss so you have no choice.
I love the word imminent - still to this day whenever I hear it I cannot help but to think of what a cluster it was when MMTE used it! I heard it just the other day and couldn't help but to get a big grin.
To be honest junebug I have gotten to the point that I really don't care anymore. Whatever happens happens. If I lose everything I had in MMTE then so be it - I've already discounted it anyway so at this point it doesn't matter.
There will always be the disagreements between members/investors no matter what company you are reading about.
I'm done getting worked up over MMTE - I have my personal beliefs about it and that is very likely why I have simply quit caring about it.
LOL...if I remember correctly MMTE's definition of by Friday meant within a few weeks. Anytime a few weeks is mentioned it means within a month or two. Anytime Imminent is mentioned it means 6+ months. Anytime months is listed it means 12+ months. Anytime by next summer is mentioned it means a few years. And anything longer than next summer - well, by the time your grandkids have kids of their own.
That is not completely true - any one of us could very easily place an order for 10000 shares. Or maybe it was a partial fill that was posted late.
I believed that at one point; however, the biggest problem with MMTE is it is surrounded by criminals and scam artists. Yes, many are still involved in some form or fashion. Maybe Liebs is legit, maybe he's not. Maybe he is trying to build something legit, maybe he's trying to build his pocket book by learning from mistakes his father and others went through.
If Liebs is legit and trying to building something legit then CLIL and MMTE will benefit greatly from what is speculated here. If Liebs is not legit then there WILL be a disconnect between CLIL and MMTE. Some sort of BS issue as to why MMTE does not receive the benefit of the concessions owned by CLIL.
My thought on this at this point is it is a play - if at some point in the future I am proven wrong I will stand up and say that I was wrong and to each and everyone that said "it's great" I will tell you "Yes, you were right, I was wrong".
If only this were to happen before our children become grandparents!
Because of all the issues with MMTE I will admit my DD into this company has essentially stopped. Now it's just a play.
Regardless you do have a good point - White is (or at least was) very involved with MMTE!
If I am not mistaken Liebs previously stated the trips to the area were solely for MMTE and he wasn't working on anything else.
Although this lawsuit does not appear to involve MMTE directly it will very likely impact MMTE.
Just about all of my prior positive thoughts about this play have been wrong but I believe an uplist would help...mainly because I believe it would be a combination of an uplist and merger. Just my own personal opinion and based on all my prior positive thoughts I am very likely wrong.
It's too bad too - at this point it cannot even be played. There is no movement. I still believe this will increase - I actually thought we would have exceeded last years levels already and been on the downslope again. Obviously I was wrong! I also didn't think we would see 3s/4s - maybe if Liebs cared about the PPS and made an effort we would see higher levels which would bring more people in...unfortunately we are where we are.
He has certainly made a lot of mistakes and misled many. His alter egos of the constant pumping and "wait for it it's coming" are very apparent.
I certainly agree - that also has a lot to do with why MMTE is in the toilet! The lackluster PRs, the constant mistakes in PRs, the constant "wait for it" attitude, and this is just one more thing.
Liebs has commented before he is not concerned with SP; however, although I think this will go higher that is certainly not a good attitude to have!
There are so many negatives with regards to the whole organization that it will take HUGE news to make it move at this point.
LOL...okay very good point.
I am very curious what those indicators really are. What I am seeing is not positive from any mid to long term point of view. So these indicators are they legitimate or is it something else? I am going for the later.
Good luck with that - I'm not going to say you will NOT get 2s but I will say you will not get 2s tomorrow. If there is a typical PR today you will likely get 3s tomorrow.
If we get a typical PR it will help it reach 3s much faster. I agree though - it is time to place my order for some more 3s...I've been holding off doing any more with this because of all the drops lately.
Unfortunately "honest playing field" and pinks do not go together at all. Pinks are very high risk for larger returns. If you are looking for something more stable and a more honest playing field you need to look at something on a much more mature exchange.
There is about a 1 percent chance (maybe less) of finding a good and honest company on the pinks that will be successful. Even companies that may be good and honest may not be successful because they get into poor financial agreements with individuals similar to those associated with MMTE's recent past(?).
Looks like that other lithium company is being pumped again. It would be nice if MMTE would see some action due to the other being pumped.