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I live about 10 miles from boca raton, in palm beach....
There was just over a 2000 share block on udsg yesterday...what could that be??
I completely agree with you....I knew it would drop without something substantial. That's what I'm complaining about. They have led us to believe that they are doing enough business now to have something to tell us on at least a weekly basis. What are they doing, batin in that office all week??
See things like that, they could keep us updated as the development continues. The more communication, the better. Release contracts that are in the pipe line. He is going about this business horribly wrong. The more the public knows, the more confident investors will be. The pps will reflect that confidence. Coblin, even if you are not hitting your projected revenues, tell us how you are doing in comparison and be honest. If you are maxxing out the A/S, tell us and be honest. There is nothing more you can do to harm the pps at this point. Do you notice that large corporations release press almost daily even with the smallest details of development. Don't you own over a billion shares yourself. Doing business correctly will make your more money down the line than the $50000 or $100000 that your pocketing from diluting the hell out of your corp. Just be honest, I would rather know the truth and have it be bad than speculate and have no communication at all.
All the long timers that were here way before me have all bailed....it's really not looking good.
I haven't heard about that yet, do you have more details??
I'm convinced they have a golden idea.....they need to get their money management in line. HIRE A CONSULTANT NOW!!!!! Live within your means, and we will all be wealthy down the line. What is wrong with you coblin?!?!?!
This was just one day of 130 mil....do you recall the 2 days which totalled 1bill a couple weeks ago. There was only 1.5 bill remaining in the a/s when they released the share structure.
They have a couple employs, a small office....what the hell is their costs??? It's obvious, but I will wait until I see financials to make any conclusions. They should have had plenty of funds to operate for almost a year. They claim they are making revenues, why do they need to dilute?? If there is an aquisition in play, then great for them and all of us shareholders. But my suspicion is he is supporting his flashy life style in boca raton, FL. I've seen how much he used to make at his job before he started this business. He can't live on less than 200k per year. What a cock smootch.....
I'm vested deep enough to be pissed.....don't try to tell me its my fault either, we were lied to....that's fraud. We were told dilution was over, that was the green light, then they continue to max out the a/s. That diminishes the value of our shares, when we were under the impression that this was not going to be happening. There needs to be legislation for this crap.
Let pump this pig.....I'm all about it.
What if I placed a buy order for 0.0005 would it get filled?
In my opinion, the shareholders here were subject to fraud....is there anything legal wise we can do??
Epic post...if there is any way we could launch a class action suit or anything else to help our position, I'm right with you. I've been a share holder since early November last year before the dilution started. I'm appalled toward this whole mess right now.
You probably got a portion of someones large sell order......
dolphins fan huh, where do you live, I'm in West Palm?
So, if a merger were to happen, how would the pps be affected and what would be a target price? It seems like dtsl was on the buzz list a few days ago, do you think word about something is out? The volume randomly shot up the past couple days, is the stock being promoted now? Do people know something that I/we don't know? I can't wrap my head around why there would be so much interest all of a sudden. We went from no volume to the most volume I have ever seen since I entered in November. I like the good news from all the dd guys, thanks for the hard work. Looking forward to a massive boom here.
Alright, my shares are up for sale...been holding for nearly 3 months, still no progress, still no good prs, there is really no interest in this stock. Good luck to all.
3s held strong today, Lets see if this momentum continues tom...
Can we get a lvl 2sky please, thanks...
All I am saying is: Where did those 2's come from yesterday. High volume comes with these fluff prs, and we had almost all 2's yesterday. There weren't enough 1's out to justify all the sales at 2, so what else could it be other than dilution? I doubt over 200 million shares were sold for break even, especially when it had a chance to uptick to 3, only etmm remained on 2. Why did all of the 2s go out when they could have sold them for 3? It seems to be a trend that most of the dilution has taken place on pr days because that is where the volume is, and coblin knows that. IMO, shares yesterday were still dilution shares, but there is no way to know that. IMO, He used the pr to bring transparency to the company in order to use the buying pressure to sell more shares. Just my theory.
If that is the case...why did dilution take place with every fluff pr when we had no idea because dilution was not confirmed by the company for some time?? It is just obvious they used these prs to dilute, that is all I am saying here. Not bashing, I have my shares. There had to be some kind of momentum to sell the diluted shares, and there may have been some floating between ib's, I highly doubt all of them have hit the market, but this is all theory. My opinions, no bashing here.
I think he saved this last major pr for the remainder of dilution. He knew there were many many investors waiting for this information to buy in...transparency opened the door for many investors today. He knew there would be much demand today and took advantage of that after releasing share structure and other forward looking information, and fattened his wallet a little bit more. This is all my opinion, not saying this is what's happening, but it seems to be following the trend of pr and high volume with no uptick. Not many 1's went out, so there is not many profit takers at 2. I believe this is market value shares coming right from the company. Where else would these be coming from?? Any thoughts?
Sigh of relief...I have really tested my patience here. Thanks for the info Sully!
Those quarterly reports on scottrade are for zep inc. but are listed under dtsl for some crazy reason. Kind of strange to me...
lowman, thanks for your input. As far as salary goes, they need to suck it up until they get off the ground. If they are diluting to pay themselves, they are just hurting share holder confidence, as you already stated, and they are deflating their insider position as well. It would all pay off in the end for these guys if they could do with half of their $250k/year and not dilute all to H. But could they be diluting for good things to come? I guess time will tell. Now my DD says to keep this stock and I will decide if it will be a good long hold once I see some hard information for this quarter. Everyone says not to invest long in a pink, do you think that is the say here as well? And why would this stock be or not be a good long hold? Just trying to dig a little farther into the minds of other share holders here.....I've made my money so far in siri and uxg. This is my first pink.
You make a few good points...but say we get the quarterly report roughly a year from now, and they are more than just cash flow positive, they are profiting immensely. Now say they are fully reporting and as transparent as it gets with their share structure, business plan, and financials. My question is, would all of this transparency, stable o/s, and a profiting pink like dtsl drive this pps up greatly, and with the current o/s, what would your best guess be as far as the pps when that point arrives? From what I see, they are just now entering the revenue phase of their business model and working with a very unique system that allows them to quickly generate more revenues, and in more than just the catering market at that. With all of the major fortune companies they are working with, that makes for a great referral and repeat customer rate, and an easy marketing niche, as these big companies will pass them on to their corporate partners and other companies they work with if they are getting the job done well, and with the right price. From all of my dd, I see a very unique and untapped niche with endless revenue flow potential. From a business stand point, dtsl seems solid for how new they are and all of the big contracts and partners they have landed so far. If all goes well, we should see substantial revenue on the upcoming report in early 2011. As far as management goes, they seem very questionable about their business practices. If they have major plans for the money they raised via dilution, maybe it wasn't such a bad thing, but it's all just speculation for now. But if they dilute it anymore than they have, there may need to be a r/s or the pps will never see blue skys. One last question...why do people think this is not a good long term investment? This company seems like it has the potential to be a huge multi million dollar corporation one day in the near future. What if everyone took their profits at half a penny and this stock saw 20 cents? Is that really out of the question for a fully reporting, transparent, mega profit making company with an o/s of 6 bill? Really, emotions aside, their system has mega potential in many markets if management can get their heads screwed on right. Only time will tell here, I can't wait for the report soon to verify revenues from all of the big events they have been performing and the new bloated s/s. Any thoughts?
So lets say, theoretically, dtsl hits the 12 mil and 40 mil revenue projections they have released. What would these numbers put the price per share at mathematically? This is not an average pink company and has tremendous potential to take a cut from almost every business in the catering industry and other industries for that matter. They are convenient and cost these big business's hosting catering events near nothing compared to their large scale companies. I'm sure their is some kind of kick back from subway as well for the referral of so much business. Any thoughts?
Whoa whoa bro...I never said that management of dtsl are straightforward honest saints. I agree they are lying bastards and they eliminate any possible transparency for investors. But why would they report revenues, share structure, etc. in a press release...what company does that, that's what quarterlys are for. As far as not communicating with share holders, I'd be annoyed and turning people away to, especially with all the calls they get from investors harassing them. They are raising capital for some reason, maybe its to line their pockets, who knows it's all speculation. Maybe its to land big deals and continue one with business. Don't forget this is a start up business just now reaching the revenue stage. Have some patience and you will see the structure and revenues and such.
Dude level 2 means nothing with this stock right now...even at 6 billion a/s it will run especially with a descent quarterly and NO MORE DILUTING. Yes they are liars, yes they are scum sucking pigs, yes we were all fooled, but this stock is not done, and there is still money to be made and even more buying at this level. It's a one way ticket from here.
Why are you even wasting your time, I don't want to hear this garbage. If you think its done, over, and a pos, leave and stop trying to convince us because I don't give a chit what you say. Oh and by the way show me another pink that works with fortune 500 companies like this one. This is the lottery play of 2011, but you wont be here to wipe your arse with 100 dollar bills because its a pos. Peace.
Ok I'm sick of all the garbage talk about all pinks being pos's....Yes there are plenty of pos pinks, but their are real legitimate business's with highly menipulated stocks. For whatever reason they are diluting for, whatever....it doesn't matter. Once the manipulation and dilution stops, thats when the stock will prove itself. A mixture of the money press being turned off, a good looking quarterly report, and good news about future deals will send this off. I'm still holding and am buying more. Great average down here.
I'm just saying that some people are saying that the dilution is supposed to be done, and I was questioning why they would raise the a/s if they were done diluting. I hope they are done soon and around the time of the quarterly report, and once it becomes more transparent, I'm sure it will run hard. Just waiting....
So I have a few questions myself...why are they diluting when they are clearly making revenue from all of the recent events? And with the A/S increased to 6 billion, what makes you all think they wont dilute into the extrat 3 billion they just added? Are these shares locked or are they stating they will not be selling them? This has so much potential to hit a huge pps, especially with the quarterly report coming out soon...but they are destroying confidence. What do you all think?
I live about 10 miles from their office, I'll be there in 5 minutes flat if that happens.
Yes, I agree they are making progress, but there is no solid supporting data that backs up their progress yet. Investors want to see that they are in fact bringing in the speculated revenue and profits from all of their recent events, transactions, and clients. All it is, is writing on the wall right now. I'm not asking for numbers and structure right now, I am more than happy to wait until the report in January.
I understand what you're saying about chart indicators and how they are important, but there are underlying motivators behind the chart such as filings, stock promotion, juicy press, etc. Obviously this is not a well known stock to most investors out there, so it will take some very attractive things such as what I stated above, and this in turn will increase buying pressure, accumulation, awareness. At this point you will see the chart respond. All I'm saying is the chart does not respond to itself, though it is a very important aspect of the investing strategy here. We need more than the chart to get this going, and I feel that a very attractive revenue filing with more transparency than is currently available will send this stock off with no problem. This is all in my opinion of coarse.
Very true, until we have more solid information that the company is making progress and succeeding, investors will not have any confidence and the pps indicates that currently. Cannot wait until the quarterly report in January, hopefully we see good things, but it's all speculation for now.
Please keep us informed on what you find out and what your decision ends up being. I see endless opportunity in the revenue department for this company, and imo, it out ways a few of the negatives. We just need solid transparency, which the company has been working hard to provide, and a solid financial filing which is soon to come. If they profit and the share structue is verified and not to much higher than most expect it to be, these price levels will be history for good. Way to much potential here, I'm not moving a dime, my shares are locked for a year minimum.
How deep is the market?