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How did your phone call go?
That BLAS is tricky, he moved way off the ask to appear he was done and waited for the bids to move up then dumped a million and is now at .0065 again.
I applaud your enthusiasm here but how do you then explain the 40 mil shares added to the OS since the end of December? They didn't come from thin air, it is dilution and we have to just ride this out until it is completed.
What about the third option: these shares are not the ones that IS got, rather the Dr raising money for Viaderma because why would you start a huge marketing campaign without the cash on hand to ramp up product production and all of the other expenses that arise with a business hopefully taking off. Can someone explain to me why this couldn't be the case.
As for the dilution, it was obvious that it was happening, but I am not worried about it. I will wait to see how things play out. This is the OTC, posters here will do/say anything to further their personal agendas.
Just maybe the shares being sold right now are not from the Intent Sciences(IS) deal and maybe that one is restricted, and the Doctor is just selling some shares for working capital. No one really knows at this point. The IS deal just got signed so I am willing to give it some time, plus the AS was not raised by an insane amount.
I understand what you are saying, but public companies are public to raise money and they do it by selling shares. I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now. They JUST hired the company, let's see what the next 2 months bring. If Dr O had raised the AS to 3 billion, then I would have been extremely concerned. But only raising it 200 million is understandable considering that they will need money to manufacture product to go along with the marketing. No use spending money on elaborate marketing without adequate product on hand. JMHO.
Where did the company, via a PR, ever say that there would be no dilution? There are people on this board accusing Dr O of scamming people yet where did he say that dilution would not happen? They raised the AS for a reason. Even maxed out at 1.2 billion, that is low for a penny stock these days.
Over 3 million after close posted at .00684. Definite dilution, question is how much will be sold?
Slops, I can't post private messages. Yes, I feel much safer than taking oral antibiotics.
SMH. Yup, you got me nailed. I knew I couldn't fool you. I guess you had also better go to every grocery store, convince store, gas station, dollar store, ect and tell them to take the OTC drugs (Tylenol, cough syrup, ect) off the selves because people ONLY buy from pharmacies. LOL.
I would say improvement within a week and she has been faithfully using it the last month and her skin is 90% better. Unfortunately, her skin reacts badly to dairy and like most teens, hard to keep them away from pizza.
It is, works great and will last a long time. The best part is that IT DOESN"T STAIN. That was a big problem with the old formula.
Ok, I am trying to be cordial about this. I bought a bottle of the Ultra a couple months ago. Please read the following carefully: they sold me a bottle before the launch, at that time, they were going to only sell the Ultra THROUGH physicians. They told me that they were going to make an exception for me because I had purchased the other formula.
Here is a picture of it on my kitchen table:
If you don't believe that picture, I don't know what to tell you.
As far as being sold OTC and anyone being able to purchase it, I emailed IR and there response and my question are below"
That is all I know. I guess we will all find out shortly.
Yes and didn't think twice about it. Needed something to help my daughters acne and I would have paid way more if needed.
It is 55 ml. Look at the website picture closely of the bottle https://www.vitastem.net/
When I bought the original formula on amazon it was about $80 and was 15ml when I checked my original amazon order.
That sounds like a lot, but you have a skin condition, that's nothing if it works. People on this board need to wake up to what health care costs. Yes, if you don't have an urgent need for it, the general public probably won't buy it at the price. If you have Psoriasis or a diabetic ulcer and are looking at amputation, you would pay $1000 if it helped.
Quote "The big things in the equation are they really need new websites. Professionally designed and mobile friendly. Vitastem.net is terrible and is not helping the company. SEO and social media should really help get a lot more visibility too."
I agree completely. I would think that Intent Sciences would look at that and either build or direct them to someone who can fix their site.
I would be interested to see what the end price is because it was going to sell for $250 a bottle. I know that because that is what I paid for the one I got a couple months ago. Now that they are going direct to consumer, maybe the price will go down. I am sure we will get an update once things start rolling here.
Show me where it says prescription. You are confused. He was only going to have doctors sell it at one time, but it WASN'T prescription. If you had wanted to buy it, then you would have walk into a medical facility and buy it from the front desk. They CHANGED that policy. They are going back to the way they were doing it before by selling it directly to consumers. The only difference is that they hired a company to help market it. Re-read the last PR, does it sound like it is prescription? If you can't understand this then I am sorry.
It is selling OTC and not prescription.
From the last PR:
"According to Google data, there are well over 35 million searches each month for information and treatments for several infectious skin diseases and ailments that Vitastem is the best solution for"
35 MILLION searches PER MONTH. That is a lot. People who are doing a search are actively looking for a solution to their problem. If we can show up at or near the top of that search, think of the potential sales EACH MONTH.
A little math just for fun. I don't know what the percentage of views to actual sales is, but if we are advertising directly to people searching for a solution like us, it could be like below. Finally, I don't know what the profit is, but if the selling price is around $250/bottle, then I am sure my numbers below are very conservative since the drug business is huge and the profits could be closer to $100/bottle. Note: all the figures below are JUST FOR FUN are not to be taken as fact but are merely asking the "what if" question as it pertains to sales.
.01% sales from the leads = 3500/month. At a $25 profit/bottle = $87,500/mon or $1,050,000/yr.
At $50 profit/bottle = $175,000/mon or $2,100,000/yr
.1% sales = 35,000/month. At $25 profit/bottle = $875,000/mon or $10,500,000/yr.
At $50 profit/bottle = $1,750,000/mon or $21,000,000/yr.
1%sales = 350,000/month. At $25 profit/bottle = $8,750,000/mon or $105,000,000/yr.
At $50 profit/bottle = $17,500,000/mon or $210,000,000/yr,
Picked up a few more shares. Anything under a cent is a steal at this point IMO considering where we are on the timeline from product development to sales. Vitastem Ultra is an excellent product and needed with the number of infections and skin conditions today. Everyone should have a bottle in their medicine cabinet to use in first aid conditions in the least. They are really now just beginning to make a push to get this product out in front of consumers and I expect many exciting updates in the coming months.
Quote "Search engine optimization read it again That's exactly what they are doing.
Let's not try to reinvent the wheel "
What? Did you read my post. Please re-read it and read the post I was replying to. I posted that Dr. O needs a company like Intent Sciences to do all of the internet listings and SEO in order to get us at the top of the search results BECAUSE he IS a doctor and probably NOT a marketing guru. Nothing wrong with that and I applaud the move. Clearer now?
He is a doctor, not a salesman. I was elated to see him hire a professional company to help get this product in front of potential buyers. You can't just build a website these days and expect to get people to see it. It is all about search engine optimization and other things that get your ads out there.
Also, the other big development was the fact that they are abandoning to policy of only having doctors carry the product.
Where have they said prescription only. You are confusing the idea that they WERE going to only allow doctors to be resellers, but it wasn't by prescription. This is an OTC drug, just like aspirin. Tylenol, Pepcid, ect. I think they were only doing that for appearances only. I think they realized that there will be way more profitability selling directly to people as they did with the last formula.
I just wanted to make sure that they changed their sales policy. This is going to be HUGE. Look at all the commercials for psoriasis drugs now alone. Big pharma knows where to spend their marketing money which shows how many people have it. I feel much better here with this new policy.
Just heard back for IR in like 10 minutes.
Hi Tom
Thank s for your support. Yes the product is available to be purchased by anyone.
Thanks
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ViaDerma Investor Relations
310-734-6111
On 2023-01-12 11:59, T Lee wrote:
My name is Tom and I have been invested in VDRM for more than a year. I have personally used and like the product. I know that recently they decided to sell the Ultra directly to doctors only. Now today with the PR on hiring a marketing firm, does this mean that you are going to sell directly to consumers again like with the original formula?
Tom
I agree, that is how I read it also which would be huge.
Question for you, since they are hiring a large and successful marketing firm, does this mean they are going to start to sell Vitastem directly to people again and forgo the doctor only stance?
To answer your question as to how much I have used it: my daughter fought with cystic acne for several years. I absolutely did not want her to go on Acutane because of the side effects. She tried proactive with minimal success and it was very expensive. I started with the original formula that could be purchased on amazon. It worked well but stained yellowish from the iodine and when treating your face, that can be tricky to use and still go in public. We have used the Ultra for several months now and it does work well and no staining which is huge. Hope that answers your question.
Since you have been in contact with IR, would you please ask them when they plan to do a shareholder letter to update us as to what is going on here.
They have a great product, but I worry about their approach to getting it to market. I have a bottle of the ultra and like it, but they want me to talk to my local medical doctor see if he will carry it. The problem with that is that I haven't been to a MD for 10 years and I don't have a regular gp I use, plus would not feel comfortable asking them to carry a product that would come off as sounding like a MLM (though it is not). This whole thing is a little confusing to me on how this company is going to get product to market, but maybe they have a master plan that will soon come to fruition.
Quote "or you can just buy some Bacitracin Zinc anywhere for less than $5.00 for there is no difference."
Maybe you should check out the ViaDerma website
https://www.vitastem.net/pages/why-choose-vitastem
What makes Vitastem So Special?
It’s all about the chemistry…
The formulation of Vitastem is only part of the puzzle as to why it is so effective. What creates the world’s best delivery system is the chemistry process in producing Vitastem.
All known antibiotics (other than Vitastem) primarily use what’s called a chemical “mechanism of kill” only, whereby the antibiotic attempts to kill the bacteria slowly by applying (if topical) or absorbing (if oral) more and more of the medicine over a period of time as it is taken as prescribed. While this can be somewhat effective, it takes much longer. Unfortunately, this also allows for bacteria to do what bacteria does: evolve and develop resistance to the medicine.
That’s where Vitastem is different…
Vitastem is a wound care treatment that uses both a chemical and a physical mechanism to kill and fight pathogens. The physical mechanism of kill is a key feature of Vitastem’s strength.
Vitastem’s patent-pending, specialized combination of ingredients has hacked the delivery formula that enables medicine to be transported at 10x the strength and depth of other products in the marketplace today. This formula stimulates the cell wall such that it is up to 10x more permeable than normal, allowing for substantially more medicine to enter the cell, overwhelming and killing the bacteria so quickly that it does not have time to adapt and develop resistance. This highly concentrated and rapid delivery of medicine to the site of treatment is what has Vitastem patients seeing results in 24 hours versus 5 to 7 days (as is the case with other products that treat the same conditions).
In addition to treating the condition, Vitastem is the only antibiotic that contains both vitamin D3 and vitamin C (ascorbic acid). Vitastem infuses damaged skin cells damaged with these vitamins allowing the skin to repair and rejuvenate!
This is where the chemistry comes into play. The order of operations, timing, temperature, and several other very important processes are required to yield the result of the World’s Most Powerful Topical Delivery System. This simply does not happen by just mixing up the ingredients. This is also why we are able to stabilize Vitamin C & D within our formulation.
Because Vitastem is a topical antibiotic, it is safer for your kidneys than oral OTC or prescription treatments.
When you say "no product", do you mean thousands of bottles ready to ship or do you mean that Vitastem Ultra never happened and there are zero bottles in existence?
That was quarterly Report for the Period Ending: June 30, 2022.
It is October 18th. They have been working with the manufacturer and will be in full production soon if not already, so they did not have inventory at that time.
They are not going to sell on amazon for now. They will be selling through distributors that are medical professionals.
I can assure you there is product, don't believe him for a second.
I was under the impression that the price was going to be $300 and the one I bought was discounted to $250. Check stocktwits for my post. I am not sure why listed at $400.
The new Vitastem Ultra bottle is 4 times bigger than the original though which narrows the gap way down.
The site is not new, just being updated. https://www.vitastem.net/