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"If" u STFU we all would be happy/ier.
You are CORRECT. I understand exactly your point. I'm baffled by what is going on here. I have lost a lot of money in smaller Chinese Co.'s... I feel your angst. BTW, since I still have a few Chinese holdings, which company is it your suing?
I know these thoughts are unconventional and even illegal (in most parts of world), But...
Retribution networks exist, several prominent ones are active and have reinvented themselves over many decades even here in the USA. These are the hands who get a pay up or shut down, sometimes forever, quite literally.
China's Government(s) are often in cahoots with the shysters/ criminals. Most often it's International in nature, because that's where the money is. And the market is a hot spot for them to feed. It's a tag-team which really can't be stopped because of near unlimited resources, control and fire power.
Lone wolfs are often effective and do much of the work, yet special teams of specialists much like our heralded NAVY SEALS, along with missionaries, and even negotiators are sent to carry out definitive orders.
I know that some of the people here were they to lose EVERYTHING invested would be willing and able to contribute to the hire of this force of righteousness and justice. Aside from Lord above doing what he does to right the ship, evil scheming men who destroy others are not easily forgiven.... this is just a means to possibly recover some, or even all, for a small fee if enough of us were to contribute say $500-$1000 to counteract and respond to such evil.
At the moment this is just 'Food For Thought'. I only hope and wish they do what's right for investors who've suffered way beyond reason. Should anyone here like to add something of value (aside from knocking my sanity), kindly respond.
What about Tony? He seems 100% legit and I do not think he would want his good name forever smeared by maintaining a long-term association/relationship/employment of/by a crook. I can't see him that sense. He surely has witnessed enough events and circumstance in his capacity to be acutely aware of what is/was going on (even if it never had access to the supposedly crooked books and records). So then why has he remained this long If he had such indicators of there being massive fraud around him, wouldn't you think he would've resigned by now?
You claim that:
"Tony has never been commercially farming"
So Where is Tony in all of this crazed fiasco? Practically no mention of him on this board. IMO he would be our man to give near total Credibility to the functioning of this business, or if appropriate he can Spill The Beans on Solomon & Co. If he were to need assurance or incentive I'm sure Garrett or others can help in that dept. SO why hasn't anyone spoken to him and offered him total immunity and a whistle-blowers reward?
.Prob. right... it is a scam. One day someone will catch up with the scam artist and kick his ass so badly they'll get back what they've stolen and then some. Crooks are running the show, Honest men here have no chance whatsoever. I stay far away from BS like this one.
So is this record certifiable and are they held ACCOUNTABLE for errors or omissions? At least to the Chinese Government??, but therein maybe the Achilles Heal... How much inside graft and favors there must be within such a Communistic Machine? As to the discovery of false info and recovery of monetary losses where this falls out I do not know, but I do know it's not good. Yet because it's consumed so many millions I would assume it to be somewhat medium to high up there. If they were to go to such an extent and over such a time and not be discovered and dealt with, then there's little to nothing within such documentation at the bureau that can relied upon by any outsiders and therefore most everything would/will be highly suspect and deemed the lesser or nothing at all, until proven in a substantive tangible way or manner. Yes, I have personally been victimized by several of these frauds and have suffered terribly. It's cost me not only a large chunk of a lifetime of work and savings, but also my dignity and self respect. I've lost much and need to gain some of it back. Throughout all this trouble I've gained a real good lesson thru the school of hard knocks in just how cruel and evil man can be, in which I wouldn't have known without such terror. Today I try going forward with cautious optimism yet a light spirit, but I hesitate often and need to check and verify before i get too excited about anything. I;ve never been able to do that with a Chinese company... But truly how in high hell can one really know that it's real without going there themselves and verifying the true books and records, and squeezing the charmin? Big Four Accounting Firm did Audited Reports and they themselves were conned. Yet today all that I have remaining to rely upon are those who seem to be credible by their persona and nature on this board and in a group of which I'm a member... and hopefully these credible individuals haven't had a go at the kool aid. Again, I ask myself why are so many in society so driven by such unbridled greed, wealth and fame? Why is it that money itself is more valuable than a good persons heart, soul and spirit. Humans shouldn't be disposable, often more so than a 5 cent recycled bottle/can return.
The SEC gets nothing done for investors who've invested in Chinese Co.'s I've had several total disasters which were clearly outright frauds, but absolutely nothing resulted. Other than a couple Class Actions (resulting in pennies on the dollar) it's nearly impossible.... I've had both NYSE and NASDAQ Chinese Fraud Co.'s result in ZIPPO, The OTC issuers would only do worse.... So now what's worse than zero? Zero Minus... That's what one gets trusting and putting your faith and fortune into someone else's greedy hands.
I sure hope this is legitimate, I cannot bear thinking how hurt and devastated some people will be (incl. me).
You know that even if it were 35MM shares, what's that in the grand scheme of things? I disagree with your premise that this is a total charade. People here and aside from here have visited them, seen the facilities going up, and hopefully have witnessed some daily and other important operations to various degrees. There's a company AquaBounty AQB using RAS successfully to raise a GE approved Salmon somewhere within a central state of the continental USA. Fish Farming/Aquaculture is a very important business today and for future generations. Why have you such disdain for this company getting it's businesses on-track and returning something tangible to investors who've suffered so so much (in a small part due to your constant bashing some have probably sold taking sizable losses). I believe they (the company) will come through. IMO Garrett wouldn't have put up such funding without some significant due diligence. Your claim that you're sources are so spot on in this being a fraud. I would think Garrett and some others who are known by name here on this message board are more of a tell tale sign than your claimed hedge-fund/attorneys could ever be. You for all these months (years) haven't revealed your true identity nor your position in making money on other's suffering. So if you're proven wrong, which I believe you will be, then no doubt you are the DEVIL... as in DEVILHedge!!!
I will buy all your shares for $0.80 contingent they do not go under $0.28 before reaching $0.68 What broker(s) do you use and we can get it under contract ASAP, maybe early Monday?
so at $0.40 it's "only" another 15+ Million New Shares (approx. 50% dilution)
how is that? I haven't seen anything yet.
A Double R/Toasted Solomon Scum Fukin' served piping hot ova
dirti Dan al Dente' extra Filthy Double & Triple Assholes Flambe.
Feel free to PISS on our dish and remember to TRIP and break your waiters Fukin Necks.
TANKS a million (in losses)
Your Lovely Hosts,
The Sino-Agro Food Fukers on our inaugural Royal Fukin'
SIAF's Shit-to-Farm Fukin Bankruptcy Feast
...Last Call, All Aboard!
this leaves me both angry and a bit vindictive. If I were able, I would do as you said, I'd put it to him directly, face to face. If I were not to get the proper response I wouldn't let him off the hook. I now am of the believe people like this must pay first their pocket, and next with their life. Someone will eventually hunt down these POS assholes and do some real damage. I would be happy they got their just dues, I'd celebrate their demise. Hope they put it on a new version of WhuppinTUBE.com
Dutch,
Is this because with the note there's practically no floor until it's near zero, so it could be plausible he (Garrett) could sell us all the way down to say a nickle $0.05/shr., and then he covers for his discounted $0.035/shr. cost, and this would amount to approx. 114.28 million newly created shares? So basically everyone holding this here on in stands to get annihilated, is that right?
Isn't it a bit odd that Zerohedger hasn't posted once since the release of the 10-K this afternoon?
What about this simple math error on pg.12:
2. The Organic fertilizer Chain:
The SJAP’s fertilizer division’s Revenue for fiscal year ended December 31, 2017 was USD 2.23 million or 1.23 percent of the Company’s total sales of goods revenue of USD 181.18 million in the same period. Gross profit for same division in the fiscal year ended December 31, 2017 was USD 0.52 million, or 0.29 % of the Company’s total gross profit in sales of goods of USD 16.21 million in the same period.
Anyone here know if CODI will be applied to EV Energy Partners LP units, and if so, how much?
Anyone here know if CODI will be applied to EV Energy Partners LP units, and if so, how much?
There are many companies that have risen from the depths of deeply depressed valuations attributed by the market. Many had huge values that were disregarded... take for instance AAL, GGP, PATK, and way too many others to mention.
Nah, think it's better send over Mama Blaze. She shacks up with Solomon and he spills all the beans to her over a Farm Raised eel & prawn Buffet, on the Mega Farm site of course.
Did you get $0.64/share in the settlement?
What 'new share'?
How can I convert to these?
How about this POS, it supposedly 'has' (or had) big assets but it's been hibernating for years...Deyu Agriculture Corp., DEYU, changed to Luca Inc., LUCC ?
That last PR was a total joke. Honestly I have been around a long time and have never seen anything so ridiculous. Will there ever be real substance behind anything this company says and does? Please Guys, Just get on with it already... give us investors/shareholders what we have been waiting for, and what we are entitled to, which at the least should be some clarity, updates, and a timely follow through. How friggin long can this charade go on the way it has? SIAF shares are under $0.50, down from $17. Who in the world would let that happen on their watch if there wasn't something seriously wrong here???
Hey Pal, it's been awhile. I hope you get that 50x. Maybe crypto can get you there faster. Just look at some of the returns... I think a few have been over 1000x. Some can move 100%+/- in a day, 1,000% week. I'm not into it, but it's really crazy. I'm in this disaster 2,500 shares, down $5k. Not the end of the world but it hurts as I'm attempting to put my life together from the disaster it's been. All the best to you!
It's been said there's a very fine line between the rational & irrational. Yet can one of general good character be faulted in having an irrational moment? I think not, after all we are human. Well maybe someone adept at making piping-devices can assemble such and mail it to our leaders who may have masterfully perpetrated orchestration of such a tromperie massive. Possibly by sending such a beautiful AND FINAL BonVoyage Thank-you and away we go gift would be proper? Well it goes against my religion, although I must admit if it were proven a massive fraud, such feelings. Anyone here possess such a magnitude of gratitude if it turns out a massive fraud? I for one certainly won't shed a tear. I only wish that they come clean , even if it meant my doom. Lingering hopes and dreams of pictures they've painted have been waning rapidly. I'm stuck in this with 2,500 shares.
So you haven't posted any further on this idea/plan for quite some time. I will assume these ideas/plans you mention have gone by the wayside? Well did you finally get the pathetic settlement for this disaster? $0.14/share. I received mine a couple weeks back after 6 friggin years!!! I suffered a big hit on this POS. If you see this and know of anything constructive please post. Thanks
There must be Real Tangible Assets as the company properties have been too looked at to pull the wool over that many eyes. How about Garrett's positioning? Wouldn't you think he'd quadruple verify and seen for himself. Have you thought to see for yourself, with your own eyes that is, or are you just relying on others?
Count me in too. Zero must be one big fat Cow eating our lunch.
where can I verify this info.??
so well put, hats-off Dutch. Many companies financials in the USA are also falsely expressed. Just look at all these posted earnings 'Beats'... just unbelievable. It's well known by now many Chinese zombie companies still masquerading around foreign stock markets, but the US side is also making things up, and is quite complicit.
LET ME REPEAT... NEVER, NEVER, NEVER BUY INTO THIS SCAM.
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER BUY INTO THIS POS SCAM.... THIS WAS SCAM TKDN PRIOR TO CHANGING THEIR NAME... THEY DID SO MANY REVERSE SPLITS OF 1:2000 RATIO THAT EVERY $1000.00 INVESTED BECAME ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS!!!!
If "all people involved are probably not employed" as you stated,
it would mean that the REVENUE Per Employee is even HIGHER.
agree with you on all those points, everyone makes sense.
Who under oath can honestly say that they physically have been to SIAF facilities, spent some time assessing the onsite operations, spoken with various workers/ peoples (with or without interpreter),viewed the entries into the 'real' books of accounting (If, of course there's one besides our Man 'Dan' in the states). And of course spoken face to face with the man himself, the allegedly infamous (by Zero, Mark-J, & several Others) Solly?