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GAB
Sorry i dont have an account that can correspond privately.
I dont think he is short. He is just one of those investors that looks to blame someone for whatever his issues are, whether it was selling too soon or buying back in too soon. I remember him being around and selling at the low 40"s saying the stock was going no where, only to miss the run up to high 40"s when samsung signed two weeks later. And complained that idcc should have been more forthright on the potenial for licenses.
I guess he could be short, but i think he just likes to complain about why he is not guessing the daily swings on the stock and blames idcc for being too tight lipped.
Jist
you need to stop complaining about missing the samsung deal!!! You got out and a few weeks later it was announced. We have all sold too early or too late. You are never happy and only seem to find the negative in things..
I am not down on idcc at all and i am not here to spread negative karma like you seem to do
My point to mickey was he cant substantiate the stock going to 61 and he should stop stating it.
Dont care if it is ended with MO it is not right.
You want idcc to keep you updated on all their negotiations and inside information because you dont want to leave money on the table. This is not fairy tale land!! While there may be a few companies out there that prefer to blow their horn alot, idcc has never been one of them and that is not going to change.
You simply just (jist) dont get it!~!!!!!
Mickey
come on now, 61? No shot at getting to 61. You will be lucky if it gets back to even.
Yes they announced an increase in revenue but at this point no one knows where it is coming from and until they do we are not going to get true value for the this increase in revenue.
Why cant you just leave well enough alone and stop with the prognostication of share price numbers . We had positive information yesterday and an increase of 1.86 in share price which frankly without an explanation of where the 50 million came from was hard to support.
We know you have june and sept options and we all want it to move up as we all benefit.
My two cents
LA
i guess i hear you, but i believe that not providing any idea of what the time period is would also aggravate most everyone here. What Jist quoted in his original post was the announcement in december of 2013, in that release they had to provide some sort of dates and went with what they were told. Could they have followed it up with "BUT THIS DATE IS JUST AN ESTIMATE AND WHILE IDCC WILL DO WHAT IT CAN TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS, THE DATE FOR RESOLUTION WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE ARBITRATOR"
Yes that will cover their butt according to you, but we will still be looking at the date the listed and you cant make a major release like that without a date.
lets call it like it is, the only people who care if it takes a month or two or three longer are the option players and those trying to trade this stock.
You want your cake and eat it too.
If i remember correctly, you were pissed that you missed the samsung deal as i remember you posting a few weeks before saying you were selling at around 42 because the stock was going to lanquish until something happened with a license, then boom 2 weeks later they signed the deal and you were mad that it came out of the blue.
Now you want them to predict an arbitration that was announced almost a year and half ago.
Lets face it, your issues is, you bought back in maybe with options in hopes of catching the Hauwei ruling and nothing is happening and so you blame them for not being more conservative with their dates and yet you complain that we are not kept up to date with upcoming licenses.
Like i said, you need to stop trying to guess when things are going to happen with this stock since it is quite apparent you magic 8 ball is broken.
By the way, so is everybody elses 8 ball is broken
That was when it was initially announced. There has been subsequent updates during conference calls where it was extended. I am just going from memory but the last comment made us all believe it could come by June of this year. Further, they have no say as to how quickly it comes down. in the past idcc has always been conservative to a fault with their dates for different things, they simply stated what I am sure the arbitration association listed.
Why do you constantly look for issues? I am surprised you havent brought up the ARima arbitration?
It is obvious when you buy back in because it seems to always be around the present price and your aggravated that nothing is happening. I brought this up many times before, you are still mad that you missed the samsung deal and you have been chasing it every since.
this is not a stock you can try and predict. Either buy and hold and wait it out until something happens like many of us have or dont, but your constant complaining is getting old and serves no purpose
Werent they in the money when they were bought?
They are December 55's
I just sent an email to the editor of tech bits addressing this article. If anybody is interested it is editor@mytechbits.com
I addressed the article and its faults but did not accuse him of being a high school drop out as someone else before me posted, as I am not sure he even made it to high school.
I mentioned the years of court cases with NOK and mentioned that this reporter was concerned how this would affect MSFT sales in a "very bad way" Yikes!!! where did he go to journalism school!!!
I also said that idcc does not want a ban all they want is a license and payment for back fees owed.
I told him at last count, MSFT had 84 billion in cash reserves and they can make this go away very easily with a signature on a license and a check in the amount of 1 billion. 1 billion out of 84 billion!!!!! that is less then 1 1/4 quarter of their cash reserve.
I doubt it will go anywhere, but it felt good sending it.
Doc
ALL:
I know that i have given him a hard time lately, but i was wondering where Jeffre was. I went back and looked and did not see any posts from him since before the remand decision.
has anybody seen or heard from him?
I hope he is OK
Jist1
It would appear from all the posts you have made the last few days you are a share holder again as you have used the terms US and WE.
And your back at it again, BS this and BS that. What are you mad like last time when you bought in after the samsung deal and missed the run up and becasue you bought at the high on Monday after the remand announcement and we are down a bit from that spike up?
No one gets you as if you are a shareholder then speak up and tell us, if your not and you providing us with your pearls of wisdom keep them to your self as i am not so sure you have ever understood this stock or this board.
With the action yesterday, anybody know where jeffre is?
Interested to hear his stance on the shortys?
Jeff come out come out wherever you are
ALL:
Is the thought that we are down 1.5 today on only 200k shares just traders who are not looking to get caught up in bad news?
i would think if someone had information on what the initial determination is, there would have been alot more shares traded.
thoughts?
Oldog and anybody who might have info on this?
I believe based on previous posts, I believe with all of the various cases we have and had going on, isnt this the first time the staff attorney has ever sided with us?
If that is true, i am sure there is statistics for this so here is the question.
How often has the ALJ gone against the staff attornies position/stance/recommendations?
If there is a post on this, please point me in that direction if i am asking a question that has already been answered
tks
Doc
Loop
thanks for the response
Put you nok/msft lawyer hat on now.. Assuming the 151 is dismissed (by the way if you were nok/msft lawyer how hard would you fight to keep the 151 in if at all?) would you approach this trial any differently knowing that idcc was concerned enough to remove the 151?
tks in advance and i promise i wont bug you anymore
Forgive the simplicity in this post, but i have a few questions.
First is it admissible in this upcoming NOK/msft trial to bring to light the ruling against ZTE back in october? If so then it would be obvious that the 151 ruling would also be admitted as well.
The answer to that question makes this next one go different ways. If it is admissible then as a jury i might consider that the elimination of the 151 patents might make the 244 patent questionable as idcc after all this time does not feel strongly about their position and sheds the 151 suit and maybe the 244 is not as ironclad as they think.
if the jury will know nothing about idcc and the withdrawal of the 151 from the suit then it is less damaging as you can say that idcc wants to go in with their best and does not want the "messiness" (loops words) of the 151 to convolute any of the positives they have with the 244 patent.
If the actual case info from zte is not allowed to be brought up, would the nok/msft lawyers be able to mention the fact that there was another patent involved with this suit but at the last minute idcc decided to remove it from the trial?
thanks in advacne
rut row george!!!!!!!
what happened to the green
sjaym
I assumed the way i read it because he said NOR i assumed they were not brought up at trial and that he just mistakenly said were discussed instead were not discussed.
my 2 cents
rockitt
Do they have leaps that go out until 2019? Did you hit the wrong key and mean 2016?
If you meant 2016 (not sure if it is offered), i doubt it as buying that many calls as a leap would not be a bullish sign as buying 500 june 2015 75 calls.
Jiff
not that i am a grammar expert in the least, but you said in your reply
Previous ZTE infringement NOR their many other ongoing litigations were discussed!
You said NOR which would mean to me that they WERE NOT discussed, but you ended it with WERE discussed which tells me they were.
Just for some clarifications were they brought up at trial or not
thanks for taking the time to go to the trial and keeping us informed
Hey my information on etrade says that there was only 102 calls traded at 52.50 and another 5 at 57.50.
there were about 60 just out of the money calls for may, but i did not see any 500 contracts at 75 in June.
Does anybody else see that?
All
this may be a question that someone asked before, but i did not see it so i will ask here.
Is it admissable in this case that ZTE was to be found to have infringed IDCC patents previously?
Thanks in advance
Doc
David
The samsung deal was something that came completely out of the blue. no one not even the most bullish idccers thought that would happen at that time. so maybe there was some short squeezing but not to the level that jeffrie says could happen. What did we go up 6 points maybe 8 and then it leveled off?
IN the case of great earnings or guidance that is something that is out there and for the shorters to protect themselves as there is 2 weeks or so until that happens and so they have time to prepared
Say what you want, but if there is one constant point that is spoke about in many posts throughout the day on this site is "the shorts better be prepared as IF this happens or THAT happens look out" WE have all been in this stock along time and the shorts never get their comeuppance and i seriously doubt they will now.
That does not mean the stock wont go up on good news of earnings and a settlement or a new license, but i just dont see the huge upside potential of 10 or 15 dollars increase like a few others do simply because the people who short this stock have always known when to hedge their bets.
my only point in my first post was to simply say that we all believe there is likely to be good news when earnings come. I think we all believed that even before the bell ringing announcement since we saw the increase in iphone sales and should that happen the shareprice will increase accordingly and not go crazy with a short squeeze as they will have more then enough time to prepare for this announcement should it be positive
Jeffrie
You know i have had issues with your posts and so this may not come as surprised but these possible issues that may cause a kiss of death
my issue is that the people that short this stock have always been one step ahead of us so why would you think this would be any different now.
We all saw that idcc is going to ring the bell the day of earnings and we all expect them to be good as it would be undue exposure if it werent good.
dont you think our shorters are as conscious as we are with the potential of positive results and if so dont you think they have planned for this possiblity and have a way out?
As i have said, i have never shorted a stock and really dont know the different approaches, but what i do know is that this song of short squeezes is not as prevelant as you say it is as you and mickey continue to beat this drum and it just doesnt happen like you think it will happen
Bull
Your right about the same old song!!! Yesterday Mickey was saying we will see 60 the end of next week. We will be lucky to hold 50!!!
JEFFYYYY
Come on now we know what the F meant!!! lolololo
My "Mother" would not be happy with you JEFFY
Balance sheet has been solid as a rock for awhile so I dont believe a 10 cent increase is going to have much if any affect.
I might agree with you that as the dividend increases with a stable company that has consistent revenue and without the uncertainty of companies not licensing with us only to choose litigation might certainly help, but regardless you will not see that substantial an increase with a modest dividend increase.
SMO (still my opinion and I did not need the F)
Ok i will bite
you have been on this dividend increase for some time. Please tell me how a 10 cent dividend is going to cause this stock to go to 60? That is nearly a 20% increase.
you are starting to sound like another poster with all these outlandish share price predictions.
I am quite sure your explanation will deal with the stock shorters out there. However This stock was probably shorted more than it is now when we had the other 2 dividend announcement and i am quite sure we did not go up 5% let alone nearly 20%
We are destined for this up and down trading pattern until we have resolutions on our legal issues whether it be through a win in the courts or a settlement.
Certainly are next QTR numbers could drive the price up, but frankly we can never seem to hold those increases as we are down 4 or 5 bucks since the last one.
JMO
Was not trying to be nosey and if you read my post i did not ask what you paid. I went and looked myself at what they were priced at and did not see any volume.
you said you bought 50 contracts (not put an order into buy) and i did not see any volume.
lighten up
bull
you sort of got me interested and so i went on to see what they were priced at and i dont see that there has been any volume on the june 65's. There was only a total of 6 contracts bought and only one of them was out of the money.
Was there a different month?
let me know
Doc
that is what he meant. he said 1 milloin shares for the day and at this present rate they may just get there.
Data
Your right and putting a certain poster on ignore would eliminate some angst but i still see the response to him from people who i do not have on ignore.
I am all for opinions and frankly and i have said it more then enough times, i hope he is right about his predictions, but he continues to get a pass because he has been around for so long and has been honest with all the money he says he lost and people feel sorry for him. Well there are alot who have been around for a long time too many years to list and dont grandstand.
Look, i come to this board to get an update on what is going on especially in the legal world and maybe ask a question or two. i cant bring much if any content to this board that will help people with their investment and it is frustrating to weed through the posts of pumping or complaining in order to get to the real information.
i have not been on the site for sometime and went here yesterday to see why the stock was down and it was the same thing and it was obvious what the motive was.
sorry to ramble on and will go back into hiding
interesting that he has not been seen at all today?
he lashes out when the stock falls under his cost basis. If you will remember, he came out pontificating how the stock would languish and he was out in the low 40's then they signed sansung and he bought back in at the high 40's and he has been complaining ever since.
For what ever reason he continues to lament over Arima arbitration and while 20 million is nice not sure what that is so vexing for him.
now that mickey bought more options yesterday we will hear more about 100 dollar share prices and cheap as dirt.
Great quarter and the future looks brighter then yesterday, but just 3 questions?
seems to me that the scripts that were written for each came off very well, but their answers to the three or so questions seemed to be vague and uninforming.
there you go jeffy being all vague again! Not everything is clandestine
To me there would seem to be a number of people who owned them with different motives. They could have sold the january 46 calls (today they traded 1814 so far) 6 or 8 months ago, in fact dont they go out as far as a year? on 2/6 the stock was trading at 26.5, If you had 10 thousand shares of that stock at the time, you could have sold 100 contracts got the premium and sat there with the understanding that at any time, you could lose those shares for 46 bucks. Lets assume he bought those shares at 26.50 as that was an 52 week low, if someone exercises them today to gain on the dividend, he lost 10k shares of stock that he paid 260000 for, but he ended up making a cool 200k with the exercising plus the premium they paid to purchase the option
The discussion was about why would someone risk buying all those options to simply pick up the 20 cent dividend? With such a small dividend you have to hope that you can buy the option for the same price as the difference between the strike price and todays price.if it is, you make 20 cents on 180k shares or 36k. Not shabby for a days worth of work.
I guess i can answer my own question. Since when you SELL an option you have to own the shares. If you sell an option and I exercise it, the next day it is taken out of your account and put into my account. An you would get the amount of the strike price at which you sold the option at (plus you made the premium on the initial sale of the option)
I am guessing since it is a sale already and all you are doing is exchanging hands then there is no volume added to the stock volume, right?
Hock not being an expert in options i wish i understood it better, but you have to be an owner of the stock as of today in order to get the dividend, right?
If so then if it is a dividend play they have to turn those 10,000 contracts into 1 millions shares by exercising them today. Where does that million shares come from?
Also we are now up to 11800 contracts sold
Wanted to get definition of open option interest. This was from a site called investpedia. Seemed informative. Not sure it makes any more sense to the activity but i thought it was interesting none the less
Price movements in options market result from the decisions of millions of traders. But there are a number of useful statistics besides price movements that tell you what those other market participants are doing. Here we take a closer look at two factors you should consider when trading options: daily trading volume and open interest.
Daily Trading Volume
Trading volume gives you important insight into the strength of the current market direction for the option's underlying stock. The volume, or market breadth, is measured in shares and tells you how meaningful the price movement in the market is.
Keep in mind that trading volume is relative and needs to be compared to the average daily volume of the stock in question. A large percentage change in price accompanied by larger than normal volume is a solid indication of market strength in the direction of the change. But large percentage increases in price accompanied by small trading volumes are less likely to indicate a market direction. In fact, they may indicate that a reversal is likely in the near term.
The Importance of Open Interest
Open interest is a concept all option traders need to understand. Although it is always one of the data fields on most option quote displays - along with bid price, ask price, volume and implied volatility - many traders ignore open interest. But while it may be less important than the option's price, or even current volume, open interest provides useful information that should be considered when entering an option position.
First, let's look at exactly what open interest represents. Unlike stock trading, in which there is a fixed number of shares to be traded, option trading can involve the creation of a new option contract when a trade is placed. Open interest will tell you the total number of option contracts that are currently open - in other words, contracts that have been traded but not yet liquidated by either an offsetting trade or an exercise or assignment.
For example, say we look at Microsoft and open interest tells us that there have been 81,700 options opened for the March 27.5 call option. You may be wondering if that number refers to options bought or sold. The answer is that you have no way to know for sure.
When you buy or sell an option, the transaction needs to be entered as either an opening or a closing transaction. If you buy 10 of the Microsoft March 27.5 calls, you are buying the calls to "open". That purchase will add 10 to the open interest figure. If you wanted to get out of the position, you would sell those same options to "close" and open interest would then fall by 10.
Selling an option can also add to the open interest. If you owned 1,000 shares of Microsoft and wanted to do a covered call by selling 10 of the March 27.5 calls, you would be entering a sale to open. Since it is an opening transaction, it would add 10 to the open interest. If you later wanted to repurchase the options, you would enter a transaction to buy to close. Open interest would then decrease by 10.
Things get a little more complicated if the options you trade are not created by the transaction, but instead the other side is taken by someone doing a closing transaction. For example, if you are buying 10 of the Microsoft March 27.5 calls to open, and you are matched with someone that is selling 10 of the Microsoft March 27.5 calls to close, then the total open interest number will not change.
So when you are looking at the total open interest of an option, there is no way of knowing whether the options were bought or sold - which is probably why many option traders ignore open interest altogether. However, you shouldn't assume that the open interest figure provides no important information.
One way to use open interest is to look at it relative to the volume of contracts traded. When the volume exceeds the existing open interest on a given day, this suggests that trading in that option was exceptionally high that day. Open interest can help you determine whether there is unusually high or low volume for any particular option.
Open interest also gives you key information regarding the liquidity of an option. If there is no open interest for an option, there is no secondary market for that option. When options have large open interest, it means they have a large number of buyers and sellers, and an active secondary market will increase the odds of getting option orders filled at good prices. So, all other things being equal, the bigger the open interest, the easier it will be to trade that option at a reasonable spread between the bid and ask.
The Bottom Line
Trading does not occur in a vacuum. Indicators and reports that show you what other market participants are doing can be a valuable addition to your trading system. Daily trading volume and open interest can be used to find trading ideas you might otherwise overlook. These indicators are also useful for making sure that the options you trade are liquid, allowing you easily to enter and exit a trade, as well as ensure you get the best possible price.
Makes sense hock. Now trading nearly 10,000 contracts in the money.
They are certainly not buying that much to pick up a few bucks that may come from a 20 cent dividend
Jist
Regardless of the low volume how would anybody have any idea if it is because idcc stopped buying or if the public did.
It is a hypothetical discussion and one that is no different than mickeys rantings. Like guessing the numbers of angels on the head of a pin
Stop living and dying with the ups and downs with this stock. Welcome to our world for the last 15 years! However now seems to be a bit different but one that we will all curb our enthusiasm until we see more legal headway.
Your up on your purchase after the samsung deal, why do you always have to find something negative to bring up.
Oh Jeffy
While i certainly like the green as it relates to our stock, the overall market is up 305 points so we may just be sucked up in a little be of drafting!!!!
What is so special about this monday? I know we go ex dividend that day but what else is causing you too look forward to monday as being a BIG day?