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David, I believe you are correct. If Huawei appeals, the monies received remain in deferred revenue. If they don't appeal, the monies become earned revenue. IDCC may be waiting on revenue guidance until that outcome is known.
OD, after reading this order, it sure looks like Microsoft has a judge in its back pocket. Hopefully, any negative ramifications from this case will get corrected through the appeal process.
Look at the open interest contracts. They are less than the daily trade volumes which indicates to me that the people who sold the contracts are buying them back to cover and close. That is why the stock is being tanked, to get a lower option price to cover. This happens every month like clock work. Stock should recover next week.
All, there is a new poster that is trying to dominate this board. Every post contains the same opinion and I see no need to continually broadcast it other than to attempt to scare investors away. Please consider your responses carefully in the future.
TopPenny, I don't know what your background is but you are asking questions about some really basic accounting concepts. I think you need to find someone to explain to you the purpose of financial statements and the terms used in them. I hope you didn't short NVLX thinking accumulated deficits were liabilities.
In response to your question though, what do you think the standard of care for pancreatic cancer is worth? After that, add Type 1 diabetes to the list.
Welcome aboard CUIN.
Pancreatic cancer treatment is just a teaser. Their next application (diabetes) is where the serious money will be made. Both treatments will provide a better life to people so it is all positive.
Expect the shorts to come crawling out of the woodwork today to curb the increase. They won't be able to control it though.
GLTA
There is a diabetes study being conducted by Harvard University that looks pretty promising using cells from an embryo to generate insulin for people whose islet cells have been attacked and destroyed by the body's immune system. The last remaining issue for them is to find a delivery platform that will skirt the immune system. Can you say Cell in a Box? This technology is going to have many major applications in the medical field.
Had a buy order in all day at $.1675 that didn't get filled. Where are all the shorts that say the stock is not worth $.12? Why didn't they take out my order today? I guess they don't really believe what they are preaching.
Just like clock work. Looks like the Option sellers are going after the $52.50 strike for tomorrow's deadline. I've got some dry powder standing by just in case they make it.
It will be based on the average share price at the time of issue or directly preceding it just like the last one. It's no different than selling shares from the treasury using the share price at the time of sale. When officers/directors acquire options, it incentivizes them to grow the share price. I have no problem with it and at these ridiculously low prices, I would grab all that I could get.
Alydyr, do you even know what a stock option is? These options are not a gift, they are exercisable at $.19 per share which is greater than the existing share price. Unless the share price goes above $.19, they will never be exercised. Hopefully, this will incent them to increase the share price so the options will be in the money at some later date before they expire.
It's definitely overvalued to a short at any price above zero. I'll tell you what though, you take the price there and I'll grab 1 or 2 million shares in a heartbeat. You better have the certs though because I don't want your IOU.
Price is being controlled by the shorts right now. Longs are holding strong. As long as shorts continue to sell at lower prices, the stock will continue to drop because there are ample buyers at these levels. However, at some point, the shorts will have to cover and that's when the fireworks begin. Right now, they have been given a reprieve by the announced sale of a former officer. As the market absorbs that sale, the price will drift a little pending the next big news release.
Do we see a class action suit in the making?
That's great news. It's time to bring China into the 21st century and have them abide by a world code-of-conduct. That goes for the American and European countries too.
Wow, I can make a golf outing in Orlando. My winter home is in Satellite Beach (Melbourne). Houston is a stretch but if the price gets to $100, I can afford to go anywhere.
Jim, I don't necessarily agree with your statement that the more successful QCOM is, the more successful IDCC will be. IMO, QCOM is a big reason why IDCC has been unable to get new companies licensed. It's that one-stop shop mentality that makes other companies think that once they license with Q, all of their bases are covered.
Q knows what technologies are embedded in their chips yet we have to compel them to testify in our proceedings and they admit to nothing. The best thing for IDCC is to have QCOM's monopoly dismantled piece by piece. It would be nice to see IDCC partnering with Intel to give QCOM a run for its money.
DR, in an attempt to remain a one-stop shop for everything wireless, I believe the Q has been inflicting damage on anyone who could be conceived to be a competitor in the wireless space, whether it be patent licensing or chip production. Let me just say that I am no longer a fan of the Q after reading about some of their business practices.
Wow, no wonder QCOM was so successful in its licensing program. They in effect guaranteed free cross-licensing between any companies that licensed through QCOM. That policy made them a one-stop shop not only for patent licensing but also for chips. I'm really surprised Intel or Broadcom didn't go after them for the same reasons that were raised in China. I wonder if that policy will get rolled back in the US as well.
M3S, it probably has to do with the revised claim language for the patent that was removed from the ZTE hearing to be heard at a later date.
Also, regarding infringement based on the Qualcomm chip, didn't the CAFC already overturn the ITC judge in the 613 case on an issue regarding the power ramp up patents that in essence voids the ITC's finding of non-infringement in that case? That is why IDCC wants to stay the 868 at the ITC in order to clarify that issue in the 613 remand. I think Nokia was trying to pull a fast one to get the non-infringement finding in the original 613 case applied to the 868 case before the remand decision is released and probably before the issue is addressed in its Delaware case. Thankfully, the ITC saw through it and shut them down. IMO, I think the ITC judge in the 868 believes Nokia will lose its non-infringement finding in the 613 remand at the ITC.
ha ha ha. Based on this post, the shorts might be feeling a little heat with this increasing stock price, and there is no salvation for them either.
Pre and post judgment interest should be a given. How high is the bar set for IDCC to prove willful infringement? Even with ZTE's pattern of conduct, I would think that would be tough to prove in our legal system.
The company is using news releases to keep us informed of what lies ahead. It is for each shareholder to personally disseminate whether the news creates an opportunity or not. The market won't start paying attention until the company is approved for product sales. But when that happens, especially in the markets NVLX is entering, you won't be able to touch this stock at a reasonable price so I appreciate the news being provided by the company ahead of the release of valuable products.
I hope it doesn't go away. Suppose IDCC is owed $300-$400 million from Nokia/MSFT. What could they have done with that money if it had been paid on a timely basis. That is considered an opportunity loss and it is worth way more than simple interest. They may have been able to buy revenue producing businesses or invest more in emerging wireless technologies.
Investors als0 get screwed in a major way as a result of patent holdup.
I'm ecstatic that ZTE's position is in line with the European Advocate General regarding the purpose of injunctions for standard essential patents. Now what kind of penalty should be extracted against companies for willful patent holdup? I'm not sure that one has been argued in a legal setting. It should be calculated to be something greater than just interest on past due amounts. The fact that there is no penalty for patent holdup gives a green light to companies to stall forever.
A lot of people including the MMs are bottom feeding today. It's pretty typical after a week like last week. Give this stock a little more time to make its run.
Well then I guess everyone is going to get enlightened next week. This stock was trading at $50 before the increased revenue guidance was issued. The increased revenue guidance should provide increased earnings of about $.23 and should be worth at least $5.00 per share.
I did buy several thousand shares yesterday and today at or below $50 and had another couple of bids that didn't fill at the close. I expected them to go after the 47.50 strikes today but it didn't happen. Oh well, at least I got half of my trading shares back.
The selling has been slow because everyone knows the stock was being manipulated for options expiration today. Why sell now when you know the price is going up next week.
Jim, this is the first time in a long time that I've seen the option sellers get burned this bad. They went after the $47.50 strikes mid-week but couldn't hold it. They succeeded in controlling the price for the 50s but lost big on everything else. Sweeeeet!
I'm hoping they push the price up big next week to increase the premiums for December option sales. They have to make up the ground somewhere.
David, I haven't forgot any of these things. IMO, we should be trading in the mid-50s for all those reasons. The only thing holding us back at the moment is a ton of "in the money" options that expire today. We are getting controlled for that reason only and it should disappear after today.
What are the option sellers going to do today? It looks like they may have given up on the $47.50 options but appear dead set on keeping the stock price around $50 today for options expiration. There are so many options in the money, there will be a lot of shares trading hands at the end of the day if the options are exercised.
Next week, they let the price rise and then they will sell them again.
Good question. Yesterday may have been a test run to see how much resistance they will run into tomorrow. Sold a little today to build reserves in case they make another run at the price tomorrow.
I've been reacquiring trading shares yesterday and today. It's nice to have dry powder when you need it.
Wow, this is a blatant attack on the share price for options expiration week. I really didn't think they would take it below $49 but everything is a steal at these prices.
I bet they take a run at $47.50 before Friday in order to reduce the pain a little bit and maybe close some positions. I'll be ready if they do.
Interesting food for thought. It's kind of similar to what Microsoft did with Nokia prior to purchasing the phone division.
There's no way he is a plant. Something is going on that I perceive to be a positive. There is a huge perceived conflict of interest here if Oistamo is representing both parties who are in litigation with one another. Not going to happen any time any place. Either the parties have made up with one another or Oistamo no longer provides advisory or any other type of services to Nokia.
On the one hand, if the parties have come to some kind of an understanding, it is a huge positive for both sides. If Oistamo is no longer affiliated with Nokia, then we have someone who understands Nokia's thinking and could help kraft a settlement knowing what IDCC has that may be of value to Nokia in the future. Either way I perceive it to be a positive for IDCC.
Speaking of bargains, someone (option players) is hitting the price hard today keep the stock below 50. IMO, it started last Thursday but then the company kicked them in the arse by releasing upward guidance Thursday after hours. They let the stock float on Friday and are back at it today. Bought back half my trading shares that were sold on Friday anticipating these results. Will get the other half if they try to peg the $47.50 options.
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