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This thing is still here?
If they lowered the price to .00001 they could easily find enough suckers to buy billions. Think about it; this company stock is exactly like our countries budget.
then it will be July 1st.
More likely he needs a right-off
This board has been claiming news is coming every week for weeks.
Well oh well oh well
Told you; two or three days at best and it was only two before it turned south.
Sorry people I was watching with genuine interest. It seems some people have the perpensity to invest in penny stocks long term.
I simply trade them for profit. I never get emotional about them and I never put any faith in them even the people behind them.
It is true as some of you say: "some companies start out as pennies and go big" also "some penny stocks have the audacity to make you profits in the 1000's of percentile" but they are few and far. This why I was stating and looking for the intrinsic value I posted about yesterday.
I got some honest to goodness intellegent dialogue from a few of you which I appreciate greatly. Others only wished to sling arrows at me for my opinions which I; for the most part ignore.
So, I am done here and with FRMC at the moment and this is my last thought and my final hope for each of you is good luck, money in the bank and happiness in your life.
Did I say that? NO
All of my post thus far are about intrinsic value and nothing can point to that.
doebop and Bud_Foxx
I thank each of you for your input. I will continue to watch.
I never said there wass dilution going on. I said the MM's are creating an enviroment for them to make money with what they do have. They (MM's) don't need shares to dilute to make money or create this enviroment.
thats better
I apologize if my attack on your first response seemed harsh but I enjoy intelligent dialogue and have a complete disdane for emotional banter.
I find it very hard to invest in a company that has terrible financials and no prospects or viable plan in place. Okay there is the connection with a successful oilman but there are also many things that need to take place before even he can make something of this company. One and the most important is a large capital investment. Lets look at this fact too; the company has no assets, they even gave away thier leases to offset debt. Now they are supposedly looking for joint ventures yet the company has nothing to offer up in a venture.
doebop; thank you for your input
Thank you, I have done my DD as I am sure alot of people have.
My arguement would be that there is nothing that would warrant the movement, neither in volume or price; therefore I can only assume based on experience that this is nothing more then a play by MM to generate intrest in what has been a sleeper for many months. This only makes them money not you and me. These things usually are over in two to three days leaving the average guy wondering.
tell me why
I see nothing in the 10k that compels me to invest at this point. Everything else people here are talking about is speculation based on emotion.
You must be on the payroll
It's about time this thing is done. We can only hope that DM also gets his in the end.
Recieved my worthless SWRS shares today in my account; finally. It's funny how much the value has dropped since the announcement of the divis. My value at announcement was 56,400.00 today it is 112.00. What a joke. But I can't say I didn't know it would happen; all you have to do is look back at my post when the divi was announced and you can see I predicted just this scenario.
Oh well win some lose some. I am now just waiting for karma to kick DM in the ass.
The political arena does not affect this company; why? Because the only thing this company sells or produces is more stock at .0001 until the RS or name change. The actions by our government only will help out those companies which produce a product. DM and his group have never produced anything.
On another note: has anyone watched as their divi shares have decreased in value since the divis where announced?
And most of us haven't even recieved them yet and if you have they are still restrited.
I hear there is an empty cell next to Madoff's.
Over the top.....you only have to go back in time one year to see how its done. Your kidding me , right?
Where do these people come from; they do no DD what so ever. You only have to go back one year, not 5, 6 or 10 like most of us do.
Just a year ago this stocks volume was near a billion; yes billion per day and then jus days before Tanksgiving, BAM; DM does an RS at the ratio of 1 for 600. Yes there was massive dilution and then a RS. geeez people
I think its safe to assume DM will have to find other means to raise capital. Due to the drop in volume; an RS followed by market saturation will not work again for him, people are starting to finally see his M.O.
It wouldn't surprise me to see a company name change and new ticker to tade under. And history repeats itself.........
you just now coming to that realization? Wow are you slow.
Don't wate your money or your time with research on this one. We here will save you he trouble. There are much better places to put 1000 bucks to work. Only thing you can achieve with this stock is o loose your money.
That makes two of us; I started wondering two months ago if it would ever come through. When they first announced the divi's I stated they woud not follow through but when I recieved te restricted (still) BMGI I had hope, now that hope is gone again.
yes it's a joke but I'm not laughing
your trading stocks online but don't know how to forward an email?
wow
So true
You weren't around last year then, because they said then no R/S and everyone speculated just as your doing now. Good Luck
There was no bid the last time. He can do an R/S anytime he wants. An R/S here again at the same rate as before 600/1 would again put the pps at .06
It was the R/S that got the pps to .06 and it has fallen to the bottom since. Only another R/S will get the pps back up and only then will people watch as history repeats. If your still here and investing in anything that DM is associated with then you have lost my friend because nothing he has ever touched has done anything else.
Who doesn't lobby congress to get thier agendas introduced in bills and hopefully passed in thier favor?
The truth of the matter is everyone does it; the special intrest groups just tend to recieve more press about it. Think about it; does anyone realize how much the NRA gives to congress? If it hadn't been for this particular group we wouldn't have the freedom to own even a toy cap gun. For disclosure: I love my guns and the NRA and the work they do on my behalf. Here I am just making a point that this is nothing new and it is not entirely bad, it is how our system works.
This industry is here to stay and so are the lobbist. The unfortunate part is DM and EVFN are riding the wave created by the extreme and the energy industry. Also we have to throw in the oil countries of the middle east and all the turmoil. Dm never did plan to go any further then to ride out the initial hype created. It is the epitemy of a pump and dump. There is no tangible assets that would make me believe this company or DM will ever become anything more. Look at the history and think about where you are now (financially). Where in all the years companies have been around that DM is associated with is there any proff of success? DM has figured out how to bilk the public of millions while not ever producing anything of value for the investor. The man lives a lavish lifestyle off his formula for life and it won't ever change. In the now, two years I have been involved (lossed money) with this company; I have made thousands in other investments and for the most part never holding more then two weeks.
It is totally rediculous to expect this to ever pan out. For those who continue to hang on and continue to remain positive in the future of this company; move on, your time, your energy, your peace of mind is better utilized in another investment.
So DM got his printing presses working again I see
Well I told everyone this would happen way back when the divis where first anounced. I might also add the time frame I specified was also exactly right.
There is nothing to be made here ($) only taken from you and that holds for any company DM is associated with.
DM's record speaks volumes as to what his core business model.
DM creates fake companys,goes public and then starts the spin machine. He spins out bogus fluff PR's enticing peope to buy the stock and continues this trend until volume and/or shares runs out; then he does a name change or simply closes the book.
DM has never, with any of his companies, created or produced anything.
This is his business and the only thing he knows how to do. He is a great salesman, who else do you know that can sell so much BS.
EVFN will never create any biofuel and furthermore EVFN will never build "branded" stations.
You have to start opening your eyes, how long has there been EVFN? well I have followed and originally invested two years ago. Guess what they havn't done a thing in two years. I challenge anyone out there readng this to come up with another company that has gone this long without some tangible asset in place. You can not do it.
My new (actually not new, I've already said it) prediction:
Evfn will soon change name or close the book completely. Volume has dropped off tremendously, in fact as I write this there has been a total of "0" shares traded, I can remember not long ago by this time of day millions had already been traded and don't forget the days when we had over a billion shares traded and even at that volume we couldn't get over .0002. What a waste of time this investment has been not to mention my money.
It is time to move on for everyone. Consider how much time and money you have spent on this. Over the year or more I have been watching and losing, I have spent less time and less money for greater return and less heartburn elsewhere. This is no longer worth my or your precious time, money or thought.
Big deal; EVFN still doesn't produce orsell or even own a single station outright. No chance for $$$$$$$$$$$ here, ever.
I agree but have to ask you; did you get all the divis promised? I only recieved BMG adit is still on hold
News Out: Government Contacts
We are pleased here at Evolution Fuels and believe this date marks a new era for us and the country because our recent discovery will undoubtly finally give us the independence we seek from the worlds grip on oil dependence.
We intend to mass produce this new discovery and pump it out through any and all means necessary. The great thing about our discovery is it needs no infrastructure to distribute, all the necessary outlets are in place and free for our use; the savings is astronomical.
Barrack Obama himself has endorsed our product; in fact, he uses it exclusively and will soon put into legislation law that will require the general public to except it as the norm for government operations. Dennis M. has said he can't even imagine the enormous impact new government contracts with Evolution will have on the stock value.
Dennis has formed a special commity to focus on getting this new product out by the holidays. He has said we can be assured of early release of the new product, "Hotair and Bullshit" before Thanksgiving with heavy distribution and market flooding of the product "Hotair and Bullshit" during the Thanksgiving weekend.
YA; I still have your letter if you care to stop by and pick it up. I'm sure the employees would appreciate recieving it.
Does everyone remember Acefranklin's Gnomes? Well one of tose little guys just ran across my yard and in his haste dropped a letter from DM to the employees.
I quote: "Evolution Fuels in its efforts to advance the stock value and shareholder confidence has determined to intiate an innovative business plan to allow the company stock to be uplisted to the next OTC tier. The plan calls for the pps to trade at .10 per share; we have determined the next step to accomplish this goal will be to initiate a reverse split which will enhance investor intrest in the company and the stock. Accomplishing this goal will allow for new investors which in turn will allow us to fund the second crucial goal in Evolutions overall plan. This second goal will enable new shares to be dumped at a highervalue for a brief period; giving us the necessary capital to pay for the corrections required by the building department in thier review of our plans currently sibmitted for permits. We expect this to take no more then six to eight months at which point we will implement plan three. Plan three consists of a simple dump of billions of shares to generate more capital to intice even more investors. We are certain we cannot raise the necessary funds to build our station but that is the premise we will continue to use until the time comes we can no longer Bulls**t our way.
It is unlikely Evolution Fuel will ever have a station up and running but it all sounds good to the public and sells stock at any price allowing me t pay your salaries and maintain my life style. It will at some point be necessay to change the name of the company and it's area of business. I have decided to intiate a company wide contest to determine the nw name and ticker symbol of the company. Please submit your response no latter then the year end.
Iassure each of you (all 10) that your salsries are indeed safe and I do not expect you will ever have to work at produceing anything. The past and current plan for generating the funds for this has nd alway will be the sole intent and plan going forward. It has worke well for us all these years and I see no reason why it can not continue until the day I die and at that point I have determined to allow our receptionist to take over. The whole syste have setup pretty much runs on auto pilot. You jus have to remember the key element of our success; perception, perception, perception. As long as you can continue to fool the masses of a perception of good efforts they will buy te stock and you as employees will never actually have to do anything. It was never my intent to have to work or get my hands dirty nor did I want that for you guys. I hand picked you all for a reason most importantly because you will never divulge anything to the public or the SEC because your incapable of obtaining a job anywhere else especially at your current salary and not to mention you have never seen the inside of an office and have never done anything in the form of work. Your life is good and mine is better.
I assure each of you our little scam is deed running smooth and will continue to do so for many years. I also look forward to seeing each of you at our annual company picnic this August."
The heck with the moon; I would like it to just get to cloud nine.
The RS is approaching.
You and brich are funny guys.
I got mine at .0005 and not trying to get more or sell yet was just stating my concerns which is what the board is for. Post concerns for feedback and facts with proof.
The great thing about these boards is that it's an accumulation of many people in the same stock; most doing thier DD and posting thier finds. I also do my DD but I also trade an average of 30 stocks per day so I utilize this board and others to post my concerns and feedback. I realize that I can't find everything in the amount of time I have and the volume of stock I own and trades I make. So I use the efforts of others. J. Paul Getty said he would rather have 90% efforts of 100 people then 100% of his own effort. Now just think of the value of that.
So if either of you have a problem with me or what I post; then thats your lose. I operate at the beat of my own drum. You should too; instead you choose to view my post as a bash on the stock in order to make you feel better about hold for six years. By-the-way; I don't care how long you hold or how much you own, only what you may have discovered about the stock that I missed or your intelligent thoughts as to what is going on, nothing else.
I suggest you return to my post and read them for what they are on the surface; there is no underlying motive, merely a post of my thoughts in an effort for feedback. Not bashing or negative merely stating what I see.