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Well, I hope I can speak for others, I would rather go through this along with you which made things more bearable. Would like to have had a better outcome also, but we played the hand that was dealt. Pop back in sometime!!
Thank you for all you have done for Exobox and it's shareholders, may you and yours have calm winds and following seas.
Thank you for your reply. Sounds as if not a lot changed but there could be something in the wind. Couldn't happen to a nicer group.
Some,none,any or all, have charges been enhanced, dropped, thinking of being dropped, thinking of being enhanced, thrown out, still pending, any update should any be aware.Totality of anything of interest on this topic.
Is there any news of our officers that are in legal trouble?
Now that the State lawsuit isn't going anywhere does anyone have an up-date on the Federal lawsuit against us?
Let's see, what are we waiting for? Could be any or all of the following, court cases, the S.E.C., F.B.I., their next move, someone having a light go on in that dark attic, herding 50,000 felines or praying really hard 24-7-365 for an answer to that question.
Does Exobx exist as a Company? In my opinion no, from it's founding it was not intended to be a viable concern, it started a scam and will die a scam. When the company was moved from Texas to Florida, that spoke volumes to me.
Should I sell and forget my loss? Not knowing you my answer to this is, are you a lover or a fighter
Do I still have hope? The way I see it is that should I sell my stake then I have chosen to retire from the game, if my investment is going to fail I opt to have a shovel in hand at the very end, after all, it is my money.
When could we see EXBX shares BOOOOM? My minds eye shows me twenty acres of flatland filled with daisies.
Thank you for your kind reply. Would agree that the Federal suit should be taken care of first. We also have been given a glimpse into how the other side behaves. This is what worries me, just because right is on your side doesn't mean any ruling will be in your favor. We must take care to not allow our defense to be watered down to obscurity. We need only look at past court cases involving this group to know this.
Knowing that the Fed. case has charged conspiracy it should be fairly easy to determine a course of action. Am not aware of any depositions taken for the Fed. case. IMO we should insist on same as topics brought up there can be used in court as long as the judge allows it.
Who brought these charges? From reading here there are some actors have legal problems not related to this suit, how does that affect this suit?
In my post about defining our company from a to z it may or may not help but one would could use it as a counter if it were known, and used in court.
We would be wise in leaving no stone unturned. We would be wise in having a lawyer who will not slow walk this case and ask the questions we want asked. Who are scheduled to testify on both sides? Those should be listed for depositions. Time is now to know our stuff, put up or shut up.
You and others seem to know more than most about legality end of this cause and will admit that y'all out pace me by a mile. Correct me please but I'm thinking that by going at this piecemeal is giving the Company ample time to side step us. Seems like this scam is an ongoing endeavor which has been done before, thus would qualify under the RICO Act. Although I will not speak for anyone except for myself, has the proposed following scenario 1. been tried before, 2. have any chance of moving this to a front burner, 3. if not, why not?
Lay out the facts from the public record when EXOBX came into being through the time of writing said facts. This would include all officers appointed or elected, those they hired, appointed, and all actions undertaken while in that post including all on the Board of Directors. All transfer agents and for length of time of duty. All depositions, court filings, court transcripts and court rulings. A list of all public filings made from day 1 through date. A list of all agreements and it's terms of rentals and deeds signed by the Company showing shareholder approval or not. All transcripts of the annual shareholders meetings, time, date and place as well as years said meeting was denied by management along with their reasons for said denial. Every time the number of shares were changed and if said change had shareholder approval or not. A copy of all EXOBX by-laws. Anything else not listed here that would affect a full telling provided it is a public record. Submit this telling with the understanding that it may be incomplete but does not stray from the information given as public records can attest and have the telling contain a notary public seal.
This should be given to anyone that even remotely would be interested enough to 1. read it, and 2. act upon it.
As I have said before that what I write is mine and mine alone. I would be open to the idea of helping pay for this work as I think it has some merit. For any that say (not shareholders) that this is a matter for the courts I would counter with it is impossible to start a book you have never read on page three of the last chapter and expect to know all that was before it, which is important, that's where I think a court is. As where I think we are now is in the middle of a wet field, dusk, stuck, no trees, no hay, no phone with the nearest house 3 miles off and not knowing if anyone is home but believing in your heart there is.
Everyone here thinks the same. We, am thinking, have enough to thump 'em with, just need to find that one in how ever many it takes.
AWWW your just being coy. You are so locked in it would make one blush, your in this thing up to your hairline and it's rising! No, if this company was started as legit we might stand a chance, but it was set up as a scam from the get go. Others here want to have a shovel so we may toss some earth in the trench at the end. The only way that can happen is if we can find someone who is mean and can see we are in the right. Find someone who could care less about making friends, would prefer one that doesn't even like us much. One who will not take "no" for an answer. We will go from there.
As a young man the words " ignorance of the law is no excuse" has been heard. With advancing years one could question that remark. Is everyone to read every law book, attend every law class, have a law library in their home, watch C-Span, 2 & 3 24-7, attend each and every trial whether civil or criminal and not pursue another life but law? Are all to take this to heart? What about, ignorance of the study of Architecture, Medicine, Aerospace, Mathematics, Biology, Finance and others is no excuse, these must carry the same mandate. How often has one heard a warning of these? Not me. Going on and on would not be advantageous to good reading, suffice it say Ladies and Gentlemen, words mean things. When we allow anyone to take a word and change it's meaning then we, as a whole are in trouble.
Yeah, Blacks reads that the onus is on guess who. Am thinking a snowball would have a way better chance of survival. Kept saying that they knew something we didn't, am thinking now the reason they weren't worried about us is that that they are playing pro ball and we are we are some years from pee wee ball.
Interesting is a good word. Let's remember that Nevada is a small state and everyone knows each other. They all contribute to those seeking a job and they don't forget those who do. As we all know now that being in the right doesn't equate in a favorable ruling. Am thinking we should hire one who doesn't like taco, that in itself is no shoe-in but we would be in a better position if we could find a person like that. Also we should keep in mind that one who is registered with the B.A.R. holds alacrity to the court and not to a client.
For all intent and purpose, yes. Let's be real about this. 1. Some of the actors are in jail or have other suits against them unrelated to ours. 2. The suits have been submitted in the State of Nevada. 3. Previous attempts have been proved futile due to our being out flanked by the Company lawyer or by our hires. 4. As far as I know we do not have representation. 5. The S.E.C., F.B.I. etc, have no interest in our case. 6. I detect no interest from shareholders to fund another round in court. 7. Should we prevail in any case brought there is no avenue for any leverage either in or out of court. By some chance you may know more than I, but, I maintain our climbing this mountain in a snowstorm remains a near impossible task. What say you?
Now that all the law suits have been put to bed, what actions are being taken by our Company to bring up the share price? What can you share with us here? Thanks.
Can't be much of a threat if one has to use an "AKA". Sticks & stones my break my bones but words will never hurt me.
Yeah, silly me, everything has been going our way to date, what could possibly go wrong? Everyone knows that any judge can disregard any written evidence in a case if it is not on 72lb. white, bond, unlined paper that contains a water mark. Yeah, silly me.
As I have said before that should we walk in to Fed. court unprepared we will be handed our hat in short order.
Well, the way I see it is that we should remember that that the two suits are not blended together. Please know that I'm not "plugged in" which makes my knowledge of this case scant at best. That being said, a few ideas on the subject of side of homework. Research the pros and cons of a jury, one pro I can think of off hand is that we should seat as many people as we can that have experience in the corporate world. Who, and how many are on the witness list for both sides. Do we have a tailored list of questions (leading) for each? Have we researched their atty. and are satisfied that they can legally be in the courtroom? Anything asked in a deposition can be asked in a court of law. No atty. can tell a falsehood in court, tailor your defense to that end. These are just a few of the things our side should be thinking of as there are many more. I know very well that the Mods. may delete this post due to it's content and would like for them to know no offence taken.
EXBX claims some sort of conspiracy by us keeping them from doing their wonderful "deal".
It would be wise to grasp the reality of our situation. That is, our lawyer is indeed suing us and is no stranger to the court room and that the judge hearing same apes the latter. As far as I know we do not have representation. When, if or ever a court date is set, all I can hope for is that we have done our homework and have our motions ready, I fear we will need it as the judge will only decide on points of law. Let's not get our hat handed to us.
Thanks, and the same to you and yours.
Atta boy! It's nice to see one that speaks ones mind. Well, your asking for something new, let me be clear, I aint gotta clue. Perhaps you are aware that EXBX is suing us, the shareholders not the other way around. We started this fight and we intend to see it through, good, bad or indifferent.
As I can only speak for myself I will say yes, I was duped. But I also am proud of all the people here that will take a stand and try and prevent those whom are out there from being duped by this same group. These guys do this for a living and know every trick in the book plus some. This quest will not be a walk in the park and you can bet that they are banking on us quitting before anything is done in a court of law. Think of those out there who will be taken, I do. Quit you ask? No.
Naturally your right on the money, I mean track. No offence to Lazer but OUR atty. has been around the block and knows every alleyway and storm drain there is. Although we have a good case we should remember that the Judge rules only on the law and not feelings.
I don't recall that, could be though. What I do remember is that he couldn't say whether or not he even had them. No mention of money as I remember it. Have the depo around here somewhere, would bet someone will come through.
The wording is unclear. A quick read one would conclude OUR ceo paid the money, but the words don't tell where the money is coming from. Not only is this fishy but screwy as well.
Don't think it would be so hard to argue that ten is approximately twenty.
For those who would like to attend, a heads up on the date would be nice.
One would think that our current president would have all such information at the ready, years, dates, positions ect. Also that information should be public knowledge as EXOBOX is a public company.
Would like for you to give us the witness list on both sides when and if you can. Thanks much.
Don't know if this should post here but one would think that an out of court settlement would be one likely event.
Whether the decision is good or bad this board will come to life. Look for one to be made in the next 90 to 120 days.
Looks as if we need to know, won't find out on this board, will have to find it elsewhere.
Have said before that would answer a lot of questions, why don't we just ask or better yet ask in front of a judge. The shareholders deserve and demand a direct response to this fine and important question. We want to look at the company books! After all, it is our company.
Thanks for the reply, we will await word and hope for the best.
That sounds like the Federal case if it is not then that is good news. My main concern was about the State case that was remanded back to square one by the Judge, haven't heard a word in that suit.
I've asked before and had gotten a response, so I'll ask, do any have anything to relate concerning the Nev. case? After at least one month there would be something, or, are we standing by to stand by?
Am in agreement with you, however, if the nattering naybobs of negativism are out to rattle our cage, I don't think that is going to work. Been there, done that.
Am in agreement that this is far from over and looks as if the first battle is ours. We both want to thump 'em but for me there is more to the story. Am thinking faith, moral compass and ethics to name some, play a large role in what we are dealing with.