I agree, if it's not all ready on the shelf to buy, there is not point in having it listed or available. Who cares. Put up a list of stores it's on the shelf in.

MIJ

I tired ACE several times in So CA. They were never able to find it. I have never been able to find it as well at any of the stores listed on the store-locater in So CA. Called them all they had never heard of it. One of the biggest complaints I had since 2007 has been we in CA are a perfect state for the product but it has never been marketed or brought here for local purchase. I have had to order it online since way back then.

MIJ

Doesn't deliver to store, however you can have delivered for free with an order of $45.00 or more to your home. I just purchased it that way.

MIJ

To bad it's moving forward in the wrong direction.....

You can't deny there was a little more bounce in this cat today, however we still really don't know if it's dead or alive.

Ghana does not seem like that big a deal. It's good to be in diverse places, nonetheless, it doesn't hit me as a market maker really.

It's great Eric gets to be interviewed and someones are watching for sure. Regardless, it's still just more talking and speculation really.

There's many little technicals and they make for great swing and day trading...

We still don't have the fundamentals of which the most important is getting the product in places where people can get there hands on it that know about it let alone market to those that don't.

You can have the best product in the world, but if it's not at a store near you, who cares. It's a compulsive-I-need-it-now-in-front-of-you purchase. Most people who know about it and want it again as I said a few days ago, "Have to go online to get it".

Until that fundamental problem is resolved, all we are going to see is a bouncing cat on speculative life support ending up lower and lower after PR's that for the most part over the past several years do us more harm than good.

MIJ

I looked at the sampling, however I did not see the manipulation that you were talking about. They looked like normal buys and sells to me.

MIJ

That is the market value. And it's in line with the trend over the last couple years now unless you're looking at a different chart than we are? If the market value of it was worth more than people would be paying more and selling for more.

The bottom line is the product is not in the right places for the consumer to purchase it at a rate that overcomes our bottom line now, regardless if it's the best product in the world or not. The product is still just to hard to get for the common consumer, even if he were aware of the product.

For example: it's listed all over the place in CA on the store locater. Call or drive to any one of them...all you will do is waste your gas and see a lot of nice scenery on the way. I've yet to find one that actually carries the product.

Therefore with such lack of location to purchase from locally for most consumers, you have to have a motivated buyer who wants to go through the trouble to order online and pay shipping costs to boot...which is fine for a motivated buyer, i.e. an investor.

However, to the normal lazy and shifting consumer, even if they are a tree hugging, global warming, chemocydalphobiactics (not a real word), the next best things are on the shelf right in front of them. Sprouts, Trader Joes, Whole Foods, just to name a few near me, they have whole isles full of green earth saving cleaners, laundry detergents, shampoos, etc...and they work fine and well. So with all that what's the motivation to buy online?

So enough talk about possible NA's and sour market values. The market has the price right and the market will adjust accordingly when the product gets into the hands of the consumers and gets out of the shadows of "maybe one day it will be," where it's been for the last 4+ years.

Yes, Ive been here and invested that long. Though I am not at a loss yet from price levels that long ago, I'm certainly not comfortable with the rising debt and dilution in exchange for limited and lack of access to our product to those who would consume it.

MIJ

Fairy-tale is true, that's for sure. Whether or not she is going to let you get some Winning Colours near her tail is still yet to be seen.

So they can have the Solution to a 1000 plus uses, that smells like bananas and works harder than the monkey who picked the banana so it can smell that way. And so it can give rise to my rhetorical comments, so delivering persuasion and deep thought to cynical minds who know nothing but need to know something and to keep them talking about what they don't have a clue about.

It's for when the question asked when is dinner at the WNBD shop
and you can say (Denn)(is)(b)(6)to(8)

Pretty soon it all start's making sense if you know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, it looks like trip 0's again, then a RS to help cash out the special shares and then another major RS after that so that the whole thing will be sold to say DOW chemicals for a premium of 7-8 cents per share, however by then if you started out with 1mil shares you will only have a hundred now and be $7or$8 richer for it which may cover your trade so you can get a nice red slip for next years taxes! When your last bottle at home is gone, cut the top off and toss some flowers in it to use as deco on the wife's workbench....nice.

We purchase 12 bottles every Christmas and give them as gifts. We goto Costco and get a couple bags of industrial spray bottles. One we fill with 1 to 10 mixture for them and the other with pure water. Then we give them a new bottle of WC and the two spray bottles with printed instructions again. We always give to direct family, then kind of expect it now. They just won't go online and purchase it as they hate that as much as we do. When they need some more they usually ask me. The down side, is I still have a problem getting the bottles without them leaking all over the place and making the bottle packaging not look very good at all for gifts. I've still yet to receive a bottle that doesn't leak.

MIJ

Ive been around since .0004's and never sold them off on any of the run ups. I'm just waiting. I really want to see the product in a local store in my area where I can go pick it up rather than have to pay the shipping costs. I said I wouldnt' again but it's christmas again now and everyone in my family now just expects a big bottle and a spray bottle to mix it in. Done it for the past 4 years. There are supposedly a pallat of product at Anaheim Sundries. But No one can get them to a retailer.....Thats crazy and obsurd! Can't find it in any of the listed location in Southern California where I might like to take a day ride to pick it up. Nothing....No one has it. They aren't even usually aware it's on their list to buy and bring in. You will notice that this is the same complaint I had last year....and the year before...and the year before. When you make someone fall in love with a product, they want to go and get it now somewhere. Not go online and have a leaking ruined labed bottle dripping open when it arives...like they did last year again...Thanks Hardware World. I would try pearsons as well as they have other WC products I would like to try. But it's the shipping that kills the thing. Hardware World sells them a bit cheaper...but then again, they leak. Not sure on pearsons. Regardless my point is. My 20 bottles I purchase every year around christmass would be nice to get locally her in Southeren CA. Hello::::>>???? anyone listening....been saying this for three years now. Or send me a pallet of the product...I am in a good central area so those that want to get it can come and purchase since the paint stores around me seem to not have a clue how to order it in. Or give me Business card and a suit, and I will go get it in there.
It's hard hard hard to motivate people to get a product that they cant to over a place and get it once you have motivated them to give a kick.

Regardless I am not sure this year...Hardwarworld online or Persons Online. 20 leaking bottles from Hardwareworld at 2$ below sugested retail, or full price at Persons may or maybee not leaking when you get them...any takers?

MIJ

Purchasing the box set you see in this picture



Can you let me know where I can purchase this set from the DRTV spot. Do they sell it on line, or is there a # anyone knows to call. They did not have the DRTV spot in our area.

Thanks.

MIJ

It's more like until we can sell the product. And it is still not on the shelves for those who know about it and want it to buy it, so it does not matter really what APCI can do for advertising "Nationwide" as posted a bit ago.

I just called and there are no APCI affiliated pharmacies in California let alone SO CA. So I still cant get it unless I want to keep purchasing it online and pay for shipping of which I'm not doing anymore.

Great announcement, but not really helpful or useful in what is probably one of it's best possible markets where I live in.

If you can't get it easily it's not going to sell. And without sales...well you get it.

Someone needs to light a fire under whoever is responsible for the state of CA and more so SO CA. ALL my family would purchase and re-buy. But they are not going to go online to get it.

Supposodly they shipped a huge amount to Anaheim Sundries in SO CA, but there is no one in the area it has been distributed to so that it can be retailed...again, whats the point. We have a wharehouse with a load of it less than an hour away but not way to buy it....

LAME!

I your area or are you saying in SO California area. Because I have been to the stores and asked and checked myself, they not only did not hear of it, they don't have it on any shelf and it's not listed in their system to purchase. Which ones are you saying carry it now?
MIJ

Who cares about the store count if the stores in that count don't actually carry them. I really am going to start calling them all and see who really actually carries it in that count. Because 7 our of 7 don't carry it that are listed in my area of So California. How true is that of the rest of the listings on the store count. I very well may be a trend and that may be why we don't have any sales figres because we don't really have very many stores that we are selling it out of.

MIJ

That's the problem...did they? There is always something big coming down the pipe with this one and when it gets here, it's never what so many here make it out to be.

I really want to know the facts now. Been in for a few years and it's all talk. Wall-Mart, Lowes, Home Depot, bla bla bla, now weve lost Wall-Mart. And if it won't make it in Canada Wall-Mart why should it make it here in the US Wall-Mart.

What really is happening with lowes home depot. I don't want well, and maybees. I have usually tried to keep posstive but this is crap!

I have most my shares in at .0004 from a few years ago. And ever since it's been gong to the moon. In some big US NA.

Well I want the truth now. They tried to get in and what did they say, yes or no. A lot worse products get in a lot faster than this so don't tell me it's some sort of lame process. You either have it or you don't. And a couple nice pumped up pops in the last few years reavealed nothing but the fact that there were not made out to be what's been pumped on here.

Plus, it's just so darn hard to get, they shipped a boat load of it to Southern Ca. to Anaheim sundries, but no one carries it in the whole State of CA. And I have asked local paint companies who buy from Anaheim sundries to order it in and I would take a few cases, but they won't or don't. And no wone fixes it. So you get this great pr about them shipping product here, but it's not available to buy anywhere in Southern Californis. How does that help, a bunch of prduct in So California but now where to buy it.

WOW THATS WONDERFULL!

I really would buy cases of it and give it for gifts and to family who like it and want it, but who wants to pay 5$ or more in shipping for a $10 bottle of product. I'm not ordering it online anymore! If they can't get it in a store for me to buy it when it's in the neighbor hood, then were really not doing that great and that's why your going to loose money and go bankrupt here, because if you can't get the product to those who know about it and want it, how do we expect to get the product to anyone who doesn't know about it that we want to want it.

LAME!

I am frustrated coming to the computer once a month to check on this investment to see it down here again in the half cent range and not have any legitimate and valuable sales figures to show for it.

I may still profit because of buying just how much I did at .0004, but the profit should be a lot more and we should be a lot farther than we are.

The online store calculator is so wrong too. I would be surprized if even half those stores listed on there are correct. There are 6 or 7 listed on there for my area in SO California, but none carry it. What's the point of having a lot of stores listed if none carry it.

As a matter of fact, I think next week I am going to ask or see if I can get the whole list start calling to see just how many on that list carry the product. I'll even enlist my kids to call.

I don't think we are really selling any product here, just shipping it out, if that's true to distributors, but no one wants to carry it.....Prove me wrong!

Something is not right here!

So don't pump up another maybe NA when you have not cleard the ones we have allready been expecting and nothing has ever come of it!

I'm not checking spelling, it's not worth it this time.

I would disagree. Profit may be small in WM but then you make it up in volume and exposure. Loosing WM, if a reality, is a big deal. It's an important NA for any vendors product, and to loose it is surely a set back. So many, many, people shop there for convenience, and it's too easy to grab what's an alternate available on their shelves than to go out of your way for a product that so many don't even know about. If we are out of WM in Canada I hope that is not a precursor to no WM in the US. For myself as an investor in WNBD for over 4 years now (since the .0004's) when getting into a large US NA, especially WM was a large hope, would see this as a negative surely. I didn't see Eric's note on this and have not been paying attention for a while. It surely makes sense however seeing we are below the penny line again. I hope it's not a tale of more bad things to come. WM is a launching pad that should not be discounted, especially when it carries so much weight in PPS when it is a potential account along with Sams club as we have seen with other products. I.E. I purchased my first Oxyclean from WalMart and probably would not have gone out of my way for it anywhere else. It was an impulse buy because I heard so much good about it and saw it on a shelf where I was commonly. Would pick it up a Lowes too. But it's on the shelf in a place a lot of people visit. Not as nearly as many people are that commonly in a Walgreens etc. However since I am an investor I would surely now go out of my way to get some there and refer family and friends. But we need a larger mass of people walking buy it a getting some to start biting at the product on the shelf and WalMart was a great place to do that regardless of who gets more or less profit from the sale. JMO

MIJ

Actually it's not weird at all. Especially if he was an annoying barking dog all night. You hear stories about what gets done to them many times by annoyed neighbors. We were never that bad, but I remember as kids tossing glasses of soda pop on the one next to us. Not the glass...just the contents to try and get it to shut up. Many owners have no respect for the neighbors or their dog and just let them bark all night all day and don't do anything about it.

I have three dogs now, and control them well. It horrible to do anything to any dog. I don't condone tossing anything at the neighbors dogs. I was a younger misguided punk then. The point is it happens.

MIJ

That much better. Hopefully it will catch on that way or can be re-listed again that way, or however that system works.

MIJ

Relevant Bottle Labeling.

With so many applications, i.e. the use to treat oiled animals re oil spill or new pr., I thought target labeling might be not so bad an idea. Not a 1000 of them just a couple or few, i.e. for the pet market stores and chains, I think they should make a label more relevant to pet store shelving and sales. The current label is great for paint and general all purpose cleaner.

I use most the WC I purchase as a hand cleaner from being in the Tech. trade.

MIJ

I'm glad he did not PR it.

Here is why,

The stock has made one of those fast ups and slam downs in not so far off history. The investors coming in now need to be longer serious holders, not scalpers, swingers, and dayers. Because what they do when they run er-up and short her down is it takes at least 1 to two years to get those memories out of the ones who get burned to bring them in to help support the long value we need. So you put this out to the groups of solid investors, giving them confidence to take out longer stronger investments that does not leave much float left for the pumpers and dumpers to play with and scare newbies and quality away. We end up with a more solid new floor when the news plays out.

I wonder if Eric plays chess? He is setting a up Check Mate to the yield sign and a better listing board I hope!

Your are the man though. I respect your postings, thank you.

JMHO

MIJ

I'm glad he did not PR it.

Here is why,

The stock has made one of those fast ups and slam downs in not so far off history. The investors coming in now need to be longer serious holders, not scalpers, swingers, and dayers. Because what they do when they run er-up and short her down is it takes at least 1 to two years to get those memories out of the ones who get burned to bring them in to help support the long value we need. So you put this out to the groups of solid investors, giving them confidence to take out longer stronger investments that does not leave much float left for the pumpers and dumpers to play with and scare newbies and quality away. We end up with a more solid new floor when the news plays out.

I wonder if Eric plays chess? He is setting a up Check Mate to the yield sign and a better listing board I hope!

JMHO

MIJ

I have tried at the same three stores for over a year. Visited two of them. One said they could not even find it in their order system. If it really made a difference I could send them to you. Or: they are in a search with area code 92555, four are listed in the So CA area. One is a hardware store actually an (ACE), one is a paint store, and the other two are pet shops. Hey...it would be great if they would get them in. I also asked a paint store and local ACE to order it in, the paint store Sherwin Williams tried supposedly from Anaheim Sundries. And the ACE said they could not find it in their system to even order. I was given the name for the Sherwin Williams from Anaheim Sundries who received a whole bunch of the product in the Yorba Linda - Fullerton area of CA. They told me to call a local place near me that they deal with and have them order it in for me as they could not sell it to me directly. So I know there is a warehouse 40 miles from me with product to sale wholesale to retailers in the area, but I can't find any retailers to get it from. It was very frustrating. I hope the stuff just doesn't sit there? I even committed to the retailers I contacted to purchase all the first case they brought in and pre-pay. I have family members who basically steal it from me all the time or I just give them the online site I purchase through. After two weeks of trying I just gave up and ordered online again...but I have to say, I think twice before I do because of the high shipping cost, sometimes I admit, I just get the ALL Free and Clear laundry products from Walmart instead when I don't want to pay the cost. When I am in a bind and want to wait to order products together, I just use the Simple Green or 409 I have in storage as a back up.

I guess I should end my book now.

Cheers.

MIJ

LOL right, then I get to sound like the dumb dumb. If it were really really important to me I might, but I was more just curious because of the postings. I don't want to waste his time with rhetorical questions. Maybe that Dennis guy can do it, sounds like he is into dumb...though I'm not much to talk lol. Not to be to hard on myself though, I'm not really dumb, I could wire your house all the way back to the electric company and everything in between. I just don't read a prospectus that well.

Cheers!

MIJ

Not to sound to dumb...but how would you find out?

MIJ

I have not been by in a week or two. I notice you're talking about sales figures so some information must have come out. That sounds great! Regardless here is my question. In the sales number, is that just reflecting sales of the Winning Colours or is that reflecting all sales of all products? What about the product that was replacing Perc. for dry cleaning and the one used to keep dust down and the laundry detergents. I currently only purchase the Winning Colours about two bottles a month (use in handsoap dispenser after work...lost of grease.) also I go through a little more than one each of the laundry detergent and fabric softener. Are my purchases of these products included in these sales figures, or am I purchasing products that were sold in prior quarters that have been stored or are the figures accrued so to speak.

Regarding your math:

We love this stuff, just wish we did not have to have it shipped to use it. That really is a bummer! Anything close to us listed in the store locater does not carry the product or even heard of it (Three Stores to be exact). I bet I am not the only area with that problem as well I assume, so when your doing the math with 5000 stores, how many of those stores are just listed but not actually carrying any product? That has to affect the statistics of the math and I am sure will bring the averages up.

Thanks in advance.

MIJ

Well that's better than 500 ambassadors and only 87k sales...

Today's mountain chart looks like a big coffee pot with the lid left open...does that mean anything?

Don't try to buy at the bottom and sell at the top. It can't be done except by liars.
-Bernard Baruch

Wow, 4 in your home town. I wish we just had one! Looks like you have options...lol

That seems a bit irresponsible....

I did try one when I was down in Laguna Beach working on a job site. There was none there. It was an Ace Hardware. They even checked in their computer but could not find it.

I just tried what was listed on the store search on the corporate website. I also called the sundries place in Fullerton that was listed and tried to get some by having a local paint store order some in. Nothing ever happened. So I purchased on line again. I'm just being cheep and trying to avoid shipping costs every time I order. We would use the laundry detergent and softener too, but just don't want to pay the shipping anymore. So we are back to using ALL-Free and Clear.

The problem with California is you see several places listed on the WNBD website that say the product is carried there, however, when you call those places to go pick some up, they don't even know what it is or that they can carry it. I've tried the last couple years. If anyone has other information on it, I am open.

Projections?

If you were to buy now, and WNBD meets all it's goals for the next five years, how would you estimate projections of stock worth based on the time line and goals of WNBD? What estimated #'s would you use? Thanks if you know.

Here since .0004 ... it has been a long wait regardless.

Colored mulch. I have been doing all my spring planting and re-mulching. I use the black colored mulch directly around the base of the plants to contrast with the bark covering everywhere else and make the plant...Pop. I clean up with winning colours that I have put straight in a pump soap dispenser to use for when my hands are stained or greased pretty good. Always works great.

I remember back when also in 2007 I purchased my first piddly 200,000 shares of WNBD at .0004 for less than $100. I have added since over the months at various dips whacking the bid of course and now have quite a large chunk to say the least...it's the one sub penny stock I never sold from back then in hideous SWVC days...which I still have one more year left of tax right off's from. Regardless, it's had a lot of ups and downs, and several times at which I should have taken some off the table. I remember the nickel and quarter pumps also. Contrary however, there just always seemed to be something about Eric that was impressive and I have held on. Sure a quarter would be nice, but so would holding 2 cents and a nickel for some time too! I think a lot of people still remember that run up in early 2008 to a nickel and the steady decline ever since then bumping back and forth to 2 cents and down again. I remember reading somewhere it takes a couple years after a climb and dive like that to get investors to want to put their feet back into it again...I guess it's like a long lasting rug burn!

Cheers!

Thanks just an ant, that was what I was thinking of.

Paul