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/bump to the top to remind people not to buy into this scam ride.
Rice & Hansen got you once do you really want to be taken for a second ride by more BS generated by a pump and dump outfit? Come'on guys.
Tillyman
Yep another hit and run posting by iHub Troll!
1 posting and all they can say is "omg".
What are you referring too? If you have anything usefull to say please back up your post with facts...
Yes sir, another scumbag troll on iHub -- yeah thats helpful!
Well this will be helpful (and Luslin, you moron, if you want to be helpful this is the way to do it!)
- If you read the last Disclosure Statement posted by Talarico, the majority owner of APRM also owns several business focused on green energy and green energy IP in Tampa/St Pete and now the APRM website points to that company website - Navitas Management. I suggest everyone give the Disclosue Statement a read and visit navitasmanagement.com.
So I ask the question? Why would someone purchase controlling interest in APRM if they are not going to merge another company into it and do a 15c-211?
We all know they would not.
I see a APRM comeback in the works
Tillyman
Scumbags Charles Hansen & Melissa Rice are at it again.
Just thought I'd drop a note for everyone who got burned here that we weren't the only ones. Check out HYGN, RCYT & DRGZ
You all remember Rice she's the pig attorney that the old management (before scumbag Hansen) fired for being incompetent. I guess that was putting it nicely. No wonder when Hansen got his hands on the company it went under.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-82.htm
Melissa Rice agreed to disgorgement of $422,445, prejudgment interest of $39,239.18, and a penalty of $60,000 as well as a five-year penny stock bar and three-year prohibition from providing professional legal services connected to the offer or sale of securities.
The SEC further alleges that Charles Hansen III of Lighthouse Point, Fla., succeeded Halperin as HydroGenetics CEO in April 2009 and signed five corporate resolutions authorizing HydroGenetics to illegally issue stock that Rice then used along with her opinion letter to facilitate the scheme.
Charles Hansen agreed to a $37,500 penalty...so far.
Bet he ends up in jail with Rice once the DOJ gets their hands on them.
According to the SEC's other complaint filed in Miami, Sepe and Halperin schemed with Miami-based attorney Melissa Rice and others to illegally issue and liquidate 90 million unregistered shares of HydroGenetics from April 2008 until at least June 2009. Sepe headed a group that purchased convertible debt of a South Florida publicly-held company. He then formed HydroGenetics and parsed out portions of the convertible debt to friends, family, and others who converted the debt to stock that they then sold publicly. Sepe sold HydroGenetics stock without any exemption from registration the securities with the SEC. Halperin was the HydroGenetics CEO and a director. He executed corporate resolutions to help issue millions of shares of HydroGenetics stock, including 11 million shares to his daughter who he told to sell it and funnel a portion of the illegal proceeds back to him. Rice assisted Sepe in converting convertible debt to unrestricted HydroGenetics shares, and wrote four opinion letters improperly opining that the Rule 144 safe harbor was applicable and the debt could be converted to unrestricted HydroGenetics shares. Rice also sold her shares of HydroGenetics stock.
I see Melissa Rice and Charles Hansen and the rest of the scumbags are at it again. Posted this over on DRGZ & HYGN so don't feel that they only got you. These scumbags got us on that one (DRGZ) good, please go to that board and read all about them. Garbage in Garbage out. Hansen & Rice, two lying thieves.
Just thought I'd drop a note for everyone who got burned here that you have lots of company.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-82.htm
Melissa Rice agreed to disgorgement of $422,445, prejudgment interest of $39,239.18, and a penalty of $60,000 as well as a five-year penny stock bar and three-year prohibition from providing professional legal services connected to the offer or sale of securities.
The SEC further alleges that Charles Hansen III of Lighthouse Point, Fla., succeeded Halperin as HydroGenetics CEO in April 2009 and signed five corporate resolutions authorizing HydroGenetics to illegally issue stock that Rice then used along with her opinion letter to facilitate the scheme.
According to the SEC's other complaint filed in Miami, Sepe and Halperin schemed with Miami-based attorney Melissa Rice and others to illegally issue and liquidate 90 million unregistered shares of HydroGenetics from April 2008 until at least June 2009. Sepe headed a group that purchased convertible debt of a South Florida publicly-held company. He then formed HydroGenetics and parsed out portions of the convertible debt to friends, family, and others who converted the debt to stock that they then sold publicly. Sepe sold HydroGenetics stock without any exemption from registration the securities with the SEC. Halperin was the HydroGenetics CEO and a director. He executed corporate resolutions to help issue millions of shares of HydroGenetics stock, including 11 million shares to his daughter who he told to sell it and funnel a portion of the illegal proceeds back to him. Rice assisted Sepe in converting convertible debt to unrestricted HydroGenetics shares, and wrote four opinion letters improperly opining that the Rule 144 safe harbor was applicable and the debt could be converted to unrestricted HydroGenetics shares. Rice also sold her shares of HydroGenetics stock.
Melissa Rice and Charles Hansen and the rest of the scumbags are at it again. Posted this over on DRGZ also. These scumbags got us on that one (DRGZ), please go to that board and read all about them. Garbage in Garbage out. Hansen & Rice, two lying thieves.
Just thought I'd drop a note for everyone who got burned here that we weren't the only ones.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-82.htm
Melissa Rice agreed to disgorgement of $422,445, prejudgment interest of $39,239.18, and a penalty of $60,000 as well as a five-year penny stock bar and three-year prohibition from providing professional legal services connected to the offer or sale of securities.
The SEC further alleges that Charles Hansen III of Lighthouse Point, Fla., succeeded Halperin as HydroGenetics CEO in April 2009 and signed five corporate resolutions authorizing HydroGenetics to illegally issue stock that Rice then used along with her opinion letter to facilitate the scheme.
According to the SEC's other complaint filed in Miami, Sepe and Halperin schemed with Miami-based attorney Melissa Rice and others to illegally issue and liquidate 90 million unregistered shares of HydroGenetics from April 2008 until at least June 2009. Sepe headed a group that purchased convertible debt of a South Florida publicly-held company. He then formed HydroGenetics and parsed out portions of the convertible debt to friends, family, and others who converted the debt to stock that they then sold publicly. Sepe sold HydroGenetics stock without any exemption from registration the securities with the SEC. Halperin was the HydroGenetics CEO and a director. He executed corporate resolutions to help issue millions of shares of HydroGenetics stock, including 11 million shares to his daughter who he told to sell it and funnel a portion of the illegal proceeds back to him. Rice assisted Sepe in converting convertible debt to unrestricted HydroGenetics shares, and wrote four opinion letters improperly opining that the Rule 144 safe harbor was applicable and the debt could be converted to unrestricted HydroGenetics shares. Rice also sold her shares of HydroGenetics stock.
Melissa Rice and Charles Hansen and the rest of the scumbags are at it again.
Just thought I'd drop a note for everyone who got burned here that we weren't the only ones.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-82.htm
Melissa Rice agreed to disgorgement of $422,445, prejudgment interest of $39,239.18, and a penalty of $60,000 as well as a five-year penny stock bar and three-year prohibition from providing professional legal services connected to the offer or sale of securities.
The SEC further alleges that Charles Hansen III of Lighthouse Point, Fla., succeeded Halperin as HydroGenetics CEO in April 2009 and signed five corporate resolutions authorizing HydroGenetics to illegally issue stock that Rice then used along with her opinion letter to facilitate the scheme.
According to the SEC's other complaint filed in Miami, Sepe and Halperin schemed with Miami-based attorney Melissa Rice and others to illegally issue and liquidate 90 million unregistered shares of HydroGenetics from April 2008 until at least June 2009. Sepe headed a group that purchased convertible debt of a South Florida publicly-held company. He then formed HydroGenetics and parsed out portions of the convertible debt to friends, family, and others who converted the debt to stock that they then sold publicly. Sepe sold HydroGenetics stock without any exemption from registration the securities with the SEC. Halperin was the HydroGenetics CEO and a director. He executed corporate resolutions to help issue millions of shares of HydroGenetics stock, including 11 million shares to his daughter who he told to sell it and funnel a portion of the illegal proceeds back to him. Rice assisted Sepe in converting convertible debt to unrestricted HydroGenetics shares, and wrote four opinion letters improperly opining that the Rule 144 safe harbor was applicable and the debt could be converted to unrestricted HydroGenetics shares. Rice also sold her shares of HydroGenetics stock.
To # 1. The address is the company's address and that of the proxy holder as required by Rule. Certainly they converted less than 10% each so the shares would not be restricted, no doubt.
To # 2. Holding a proxy is not a conflict of interest. The conflict you’re referring to was when MGI was involved with APRM, Talarico had to abstain from the conversation which the Disclosure Form clearly states. (here I go doing your homework again: Annual Disclosure Form, page 18 Item D. 1, last sentence, 1st paragraph)
So ‘what is your point’?
To #3. There are 4 companies that own the shares and 4 individuals. If you know that any of them are related to Talarico, MGI or APRM you should report it to the Board here and then the SEC. Facts here CBO no more "i guess". Unless you know something as a fact you should stop, your beginning to look foolish. If any of them are related under the Rule that would be a clear violation. No way any off those people or company’s get in trouble for a sub-penny stock, I don’t buy it. (neither does anyone else).
Anytime you’d like to apologize to the board for making outlandish comments you’re more than welcome to do so. Yeah right!
I’ll take your comments one at a time.
CBO-“I wasn't trying to tie the addess together just copy/pasted from the filings (which had the addesses).”
You answered your own question when you copied & pasted the “owners” names of the stock in your post, so how can the company he works for own them?
CBO-“I understand he personally doesn't own them."
The "Cut & Paste" you made are the "owners" of the stock; they are the ones who can buy or sell all they want -- that’s what makes them the owners. You put out this conspiracy theory based on the addresses being the same, not understanding that has noting to do with the ‘owners’, but due to the Proxy Rule which stipulates that the address of record be that of the proxy holder. This is simple basic knowledge that any trader should know. One has nothing to do with the other!
Owners (which makes them owners) can buy and sell, proxy holders cannot. Just that simple. More simple trader knowledge -- If a proxy holder had the right to sell that is called a (Shareholder) Trust and is completely different than a simple proxy to vote the shares.
See Note 5, paragraph 3, of the Financial Statement (fyi, last time I do your homework)
The “owners” gave the “Chairman” of APRM the right to vote the shares as a condition of the conversion as it is clearly stated in the Disclosure Form and the Financial Statements. Talarico happens to be the Chairman; it could have been any Tom, Dick or Harry for that matter. The right was given to the “Chairman” not Talarico.
CBO-“But doesn't his company own them ? And doesn't he control his company?”
The company he works for doesn’t own the shares, nor does Talarico which you finally acknowledge your post, the people on the list you “cut & pasted” own them. If you would read the filing, the company he works for has 963k or so of "restricted common" that can't be traded or sold in the open market, that why they call it "restricted common".
CBO-“Does that make you feel better?”
Not really, no, it doesn’t make me feel better. CBO you’re still trying to make something out of nothing. Stop bashing for no reason.
Wow what part of "he doesn't own them" don't you understand? He cannot sell what he doesn’t own! Can you not read a Disclosure Form?
You’re simply trying to incite a riot here for no reason.
Cbo - Owning and voting are 2 very different things. You said own. I certainly didn't mislead anyone, I stated the facts.
Not sure what significance you’re trying to tie to the mailing address – there isn’t any.
Btw, Proxy Rules dictate that the mailing address be that of the proxy holder.
But I’m sure you knew that!
cbo – thank you for making me read the Disclosure Form and Financial Statements, what you said didn’t make any sense to me (Talarico owning 48 million free trade shares), since if one person owned that many shares they would automatically be restricted from sale since it would be greater than 10% of the outstanding shares.
I guess the moral of this story is that you need to read the Disclosure Form and Financial Statements correctly before you make comments like that. Not sure if you intended to mislead the Board but -- you just made a colossal misrepresentation that Talarico owns 48,000,000 shares.
Fact: The disclosure form says that he has proxy to vote them; not to be confrontational but, do you even know what a proxy is? Let me help. The proxy means that the Talarico has the right to VOTE the shares in matters before the board. He doesn't own them and cannot direct the sale or trading of them! That's a huge difference.
(go to the Annual Disclosure, page 6, item 6, plus in the financial statements Note 4 paragraph 3)
Looks like the only shares he has control of is 960k or so restricted common and they are not his but a company he works for.
And you’re other comments – ('apple falling far from the tree')if you have something factual we need to know about the management of the company you should let us know – if it’s true and not made up.
Good lesson for everyone, do your homework before making outlandish comments as fact.
Moldme, you're full of BS, if you have any integrity re-post the one you deleted of mine and let everyone see who the liar is! You gutless wonder!
And Arbo99 your the moron who listened to Hansen and posted it as "fact" to hurt all of us. I stand bye my post. Everything I said was true.
You buffoons who 'believe' that the bankers are 'saviors' are dumb as stumps.
From the moment they got involved with the company the stock tanked because they control a brokerage house that has been shorting it ever since. From $3.65 when the company announced they where in talks to $0.04. Our money is in their pockets and Hansen’s.
Arbo99 you moron, look at the charts and argue that for me! Scumbags, the lot of you.
How about some more facts for you to delete:
Granite Creek added board members and short circuited the company to take it over to sell it to a company call Diabetes Care Club in Tennessee which was Rubin Shaws buddies (former Chairman), Talarico found out about it and went to war with them which is why Rubin Shaw quit, but your boy Hansen is such a scumbag he accepted 500,000 extra shares of the company to vote against the founders. And according to my source Hansen did this while Talarico and Towsley where out of town dealing with a new bank to replace Granite Creek so they offer Hansen the extra shares so that the new funding deal got killed. Did your boy Hansen tell you that one? Arbo99 your garbage is ALL lies!
You want more Facts to delete:
The company had been having record months and I’ll remind everyone that the 'saviors' started the battle! Talarico and Towsley hired a new CFO, LeGates and Granite did not have the money to fund the $1,750,000 the contract said they had too. So Talarico went to war with them over it. Hansen sold himself and you all know that.
PUMPING & DUMPING:
I am not fans of anyone in this deal but again look at the FACTS (more for you to delete):
If Talarico and Towsley where pumping and "DUMPING" how come according to the ALL filing and the SEC they STILL OWN ALL OF THE SHARES THEY WHERE RVER ISSUED???? They have NEVER sold one single share and have the very first share they where ever issued. They are the biggest loosers in the deal and Arbo99 your just mad because I was told Talarico fired you when MLTO took over the interax shell. Go ahead deny it!
Arbo99 you boy Hansen has sold plenty…go ahead and ask him.
Moldme1 or whoever deleted my post (since now your all dancing) put my original deleted post back up and let the people on this board decide if your both not simply as bad as you really are!
LeGates quit, did Hansen tell you that? How about the fact that Granite Creek has the medirect deposits from medicare going to an account that they control?
You hear that one?
I have a better one for you, I was told that all the files have been boxed up and shipped to Granite Creek in Chicago and that there is only 10 people left at medirect so Hansen can fool medicare that he is still operating the company.
How about that?
Did he tell you that somebody named Randy Tolcott (?) is really in charge and that he (Hansen) can't even sign a check?
Arbo99 for someone who is so "in the know" you should be ashamed of what you did over the last three months pumping this stock and not being honest so people could sell on real facts not on what your trumped up lies from Hansen where!
Doubloon, Arbo99 & moldme1 cost everyone on this board money!
MLTO was trading between .40-.50, (wk of 9-12-07) and because you deleted my post and the "facts", people who read this board did not have material information that was true so they could make an informed decision about selling or not.
You should all be proud of yourselves.
Hansen played you like the scumbag he is. And Arbo99 you’re screwed so far up his butt when he lie’s it sounds a lot like you. Go on' delete this one too. You make me ill!
Also, did a little digging and you’re (arbo99) a real stock picker – Interexx went bankrupt…and you did shareholder relations? I’ll bet you blamed someone else for that one failing too!
Please do us all a favor and tell us what company’s you like so I can run in the other direction!
You and Doubloon don't do your homework and then you supposedly call Hansen who lies, and you swear to it. Hansen is working against the shareholders and when you delete posts (which are right on the money) and back up his lies. It makes you no better. You must be looking for a job the way you defended the scum at medirect for deregistering.
To foolishly ask why the bid is not getting crushed??? Do your homework...
http://www.stcloudcapital.com/portfolio.htm
St. Cloud invested in National Holdings Corporation, utilizing a combination of convertible promissory notes and convertible preferred stock with warrants. The Company, through its wholly owned subsidiary, National Securities Corporation, provides securities brokerage and investment services throughout the United States. It also provides corporate finance and investment banking services, including underwriting the sale of securities to the public and arranging for the private placement of securities with investors.
The bankers are propping up MLTO to stop a class action lawsuit. But you’re such experts I guess you already knew that!
If anyone is still holding sell it now before they file BK. I expect you’ll delete this to.
simply put, Hansen is a liar and your not fit to run this message board. My post was right on the money and you removed it for no good reason. How about we fire you.