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There are no 2 groups here. These are super die hard longs. There are longs who were here before I bought my first GAMZ share. You must agree to disagree and that is not too difficult to do really. Regardless, the shares are all in tight hands of the longs and it really makes no difference whether they are pro and against the 1/100 R/S/.
The fact is that the company is at least coming around and find that Horse before the cart. So, it is all good. But we shall not be too complacent until the management does what they say. Most of the die hard longs here are here way before these BODs are brought on by Ferris. I would stay the management stays on their course and don't BS longs no more.
And I wouldn't bashing the super die hard longs for their opinions. I even read weo's posts with pleasure coz he does offer some contrarian insights at times.
Let's concentrate growing the business, especiallt the 'foreign business' like the announced Saudi deals when we are at 6.5 pennies - punts intended.
Al, you are soooo convoluted and you are not even reading the posts. No one seems to doubt the company is aiming to uplist and I believe most here are in full agreement with that statement. It is the convoluted statement you inserted that I have problem with. "Whatever R/S"? 1/1000000000? Like I said, we will evaluate that when that comes. You, on the other hands, are telling the world to blindly accept whatever R/S ratio and whatever the company puts out and back it. I hope I am not the only dumb one here.
Sorry Learned, we are not your average blind faith cult followers. We also share your objective to have the company build value for the shareholders and a much higher pps so everyone is happy regarding what camps you are with. You said it right. Based upon their history with the failed proxy, we must be more prudent to question the authority from time to time. You, me and everyone else on this board are sharing the same goal to make $, not being converted a blind faither nor a cult follower.
Al, don't start again. "we must support in whatever r/s is necessary"???
Put it to rest. man. It is like blind faith or some sort of a cult or what? We shareholders will evaluate and vote then when time comes if the action then is deemed to enhance and increase shareholder values. No one is going to vote blindly in whatever the company throws out. You are smarter than that or I am dumb as hell.
With your insistence of being a long term shareholder looking to further your investment, then pumping the company's mistakes at every turn, is curious behaviour for such a devoted long.
The held news is indeed a good news and it is a foreign sales.
At the price right now, we are looking at a 1/70 R/S to get to where the management wants to be at from the get-go. I say we continue to develop the business front and with the audited financial done(forward looking) down the road, the R/S could only be 1/30. At that juncture, I think it is a cake walk for the management to do the R/S assuming that they are clear that they are uplisting to the Nazdaq.
I think none of us have done much of any negative assualts at all. Why would these people do that when they are mostly serious die hard longs and vested here for a long arse time. Most agreed that the comments are appropriate and constructive. I don't see no negative assaults by looking at the far side.
Amen to that
No one on this board have ever stated the managemengt have done a poor job for the last few years. In fact, we are praisning them for their earnest effort to keep the dream alive.
The issue is/was still exactly what we stated from day one. Keep plugging away with the business and line up the ducks(get a controller- do an audit...etc)in a row. The shares are mostly in tight hands with the longs. Let the pps justify the forward looking events and only when things are closer to a real uplist, do another R/S proxy. By then, the R/S split might and might not be 1/100 or it might be 1/200..who knows. But at least most of the longs are contend then knowing the management is transparent with its support base in mind. I venture to say if they were to do that, the R/S might fall in the range of 1/20- 1/30.
ztect, I actually know quite a few people working at Southwall Tech off Palo Alto, CA. They also have spinned off and are working on a solar dep tool backed by a large chem company which I can't disclose.
Southwall did exactly what you and many had said and done BEFORE they do the uplisting. They lined up all the ducks in a row and the management tried their best to keep the ps above a buck at all time. And all along, they know the R/S would be 1:3 to 1:6 if they continue their business model and execute their business plan with multiple PRs getting the largest coating contracts from China/Far East. And by gosh, they did. Did they time it? You bet, but not blindly. They know they can uplist and they prepared all the necessary steps to get there.
knock it off guys/gals.... can anyone actually do some more fact finding to see if there is/are actual pinks that actually took that leap of faith going NAZ directly from the land of pinks?
Find out the time involved and the 'horse' it entailed before it is actually uplisted?
Port,
"I personally would step up with 5-10 friends/associates and buy the company outright in the $2-$4 range, and I'm not kidding. Virtra is on track for $12M+ in revenues for 2011, and will probably book $2-$3M in profit, maybe more. At $2/share post split, you would be buying the company for approximately one year’s worth of earnings, and at $4/share it would be two year’s worth of earnings. Trust me, those opportunities just don't happen, and if it does, I won't be the only guy mortgaging the farm to buy Virtra."
Don't you ever use that 'trust me' proclaimation again coz when I read that, I tend not to read the rest of the post.
If you are so sure based upon your DDs/fundamental of the company that the MMs would NOT be able to walk an $8 unaudited pinky over time to some $4 range, why don't you and your soon-to-be departed 10 associates begin the journey to buy up 75% of the pre-R/S float? At 6-7 pennies pre-R/S, isn't that cheap enough for you/your associates to seize control TODAY? Pre-R/S and post R/S ROI and the cash flow are the same so WHY WAIT? You will call all the shots then. I will listen to your CC passively.
GLTY and to your 10 associates indeed.
bill, that is what I am worrying about the most. It is the time to uplist post R/S. That is not a sure thing and it might take years. What do you do as long as we have been here for some 10+ years finally finding your money is locked up at some $ 7- $ 8 pps on the pink? Your money is as good as dead money and there will be few or no trades at all.
When we bring up some viable concerns and these guys are jumping the guns that you have some ulterior motives. We are now being badged as morons on the yahoo board for questioning the authorities.
I do not know what Kool-Aids thes folks are drinking. If we sit on the pink at $7(I say $4) without a solid timeline and committed PR from the management pre R/S, we are shafted.
Port:
"I'm not saying we won't see price dips; I'm actually hoping for some, but I'm not so foolish that I am going to bank on it, because there is a better chance that we won't see anything lower than where it traded yesterday."
It is this kind of double talk that I agree to disagree with you. There is also a better chance that we will see it goes much lower than where it traded yesterday post R/S. You can't have it both ways. At least I am certain that post R/S, it will goes much lower. Even the management themselves affirmed to prop the post R/S back up to near $4 if needed. My question to you is that if and when that happens, how much dry powder does our management have committed to realize this continuously until whenever they are ready to uplist? Would you as a diehard longs pump your dry powder to assist this management to maintain the post R/S at $4? The question is that these verbal thing from the management does not count. What if they elect not to do any of such? What other recourse do you have? And so what if it gets back to $4 and falls back to $2, you are at 2 cents pre-split. You pump in more dry powder then?
Be honest now, how many of you would put up $8000 for 1000 shares of this post split and it is still in the pink?? I think we should run a SURVEY on this board and find out.
For that money, I will put that into Apple or Intel or Cisco or something. You see, at $7-10 range, there are literally hundreds of audited Nasdaq(by the way, already listed for years and track records)listed companies there for your choosing. Why Virtra then? Even if we uplist successfully, no fund manager is going to look at something that has market cap of what...$ 11 million? At $4, the cap is half.
Senor Port,
"But, those are the kind of people we want to see selling post-split, because they create buy opportunities for investors that see past the emotional baggage"
You see, this is where you and US differ in opinion. You can agree to disagree to the yin yang of things. Yes, it is all about demand and supply except that after post R/S, we are still sitting on pink at say $7.90. Where would the demand side come from for a thinly traded stock at $8 at that juncture? There will be absolutely NO DEMAND for this at all and it is a far gone conclusion. The only trade we will see is the MMs are walking this down by shorting it. Yes, the management acknowledged that themselves and they even pronounced in the CC that they will prop it back up to $4. How long can they pump cash doing this filling the hole IF they will do what the said? Not long if the uplisting takes 6 months, 9 months, 12 months, 2 years, who knows how long after the R/S. The reality is that the MMs would love to see something like this but' naked.
Another reality of the demand side is like selling your house. You claim the rest of the track homes are selling at $100K and you stick a sign out there say, $10K and take my same track home. You will be swamped and that is only a factor 10. Imagine you are taking about a factor of 100 going from $ 7.90 to 7.9 cents? Every Joe Blow can entertain a 7 cents good stock with room to grow. But the $ 7.90 price tag for a pink with no audit history? C'mon, give yourself a break.
Al, you still don't get it, do you? The institutional buyers, ie fund managers of any kind, would not, I repeat, would NEVER look at a stock with only $ 10-11 Mil market cap. So their premise to do the R/S is false IMO.
I feel for you and me as well. I know many serious longs here since GAMZ ground zero days way back when and we hold large blocks.
You see, some of us are working in some Nasdaq listed companies. If I were to 'pay' some serious company cash for some 1099 consultants and came up with this announcement that ultimately caused a 30-35% deterioration of the company's market capitalization almost overnight, I WILL BE PINKED yesterday and be joining the 99ers today.
Schniedku.....it is not that I can't wait for a year..it is just that I have been here for 11 years... never sold a share. Like I said, I will vote NO to any R/S with my entire block.
No one is stopping you to get with their program and BUY your boatload today and any day. Back up with truck and show me the money. 'Judging from today's action, there are plenty who wants our shares??' Do you not know how many million times have we read lines like this here? Talk to us in 3 days if the this breaks out that 7-9 cents pattern.
I am not a trader like the stock100000000000000000000 dude here. The daily pps means nothing to us. It is the manangement whom we trusted that have kept in the game for so long.
Again, I had disclosed before and I will state it again. The management did a great job turning the company and the business around. There is no misunderstanding there from anyone here. They just screwed this up. There are still time to correct this....say, go do the share buyback and the schedule the audit ASAP.
This thing is gonna fly? Huh? What? Talk to us in 3 days. We are stuck between 7-8 cents forever simply because the management, espeically that dude who can't explain GAAT, mismanagement the move AND they blew a lot of hard cash to see the PPS going south.
What are they thinking? Why don't they announce using the same cash to announce a share BUY BACK NOW and do the audit, then do the 1/10 or 1/20 R/S aiming to uplist? Why can't they announce this instead.
I am still not convinced. I am voting no with my block.
I am in a total agreement with NB here. The management really screwed up big time and blew a lot of cash sending the PPS spiraling down without accomplishing a damn thing. They should have reiterated the uplisting intention from the get-go in the CC and stated that at a given time in the future. Do the accounting audit while continue to the build the business. Let the PPS rise and at a given point after the audit and the timing is right, do another CC and announce a solid intention to go Nasdaq. Propose to proceed quickly with a say 1/20 R/S and ask the shareholders to support the uplisting.
If they were to do this stepwise, we are there.
Sirfelix is gagged while all these are happening. What gives?
I had the same thing happened to me yesterday. I had not received a poxy. The choices given by Alliance were either a Yes or Obstain. Something is not right. I hope the imagined $200K Alliance fee along with the proxy stuff is not to sneak the R/S through.
It seems that we are going in full circle here. The fundamental question is still the same whether you are a 7 cents company of a $20(if it stays there after the R/S but the majority doubts such scenario), we are still a 'small company' with limited headcounts.
We've the opportunity to get some good cash flow going foward. Use that cash flow to bring people on board and train them well. Bring in the international rep network and train them to perform 7/24 tech support works. I see, we can't bring in people when we are at 7 cents. Hello? Last time I check, the unemployed techies are runing out their 99 weeks thingy and we can attract talent with a 7 cents outfit? They didn't look hard enough and it sounds as if they are whinning about it. That does not sit well with the longs.
I have no problem with the management and I think they did an outstanding job turning this around. But man, you have to understand if Virtra is at $20 bucks today with the same headcounts, it still won't get the Lockheed order. You've got differentiate if it is a headcount coverage issue or is it a real 7-pennies issue.
Again, that makes no sense and the argument from you or that Don guy is absolutely ludicrous at best. Supporting the customers with global tech supports? C'mon man, get real. 20 years ago, that might have been new news. 7/24 global support is the norm in any tech business. Go look at the semiconductor manufacturing tools business. Tech support dudes hoping on planes to service the tool is nothing new. The idea is to qualify a global rep network and train these people locally and regionally. They are done in the similar fashion for small companies/startups throughout the global. Tech support under warranty terms burn cash flow but the same work after the warranty period is a cash cow.
Before R/S or after the R/S, Virtra faces the same issue like you stated with the global tech support needs. What the heck is the difference whether you are 2 cents or $10? Absolutely nothing. The main difference is when the company cannot support the customers before, during and after the sales, regardless we are at 2 cents or $20 bucks.
If what you projected with the management that the cash flow is no object down the road, then expand the global network and send these techies to work. What is the problem? You've got to do it with or without the R/S. You see, if we are at $20 bucks and there is no aftersales infrastruture say tech support, the gravity pull is much harder.
I am sorry but your '0.07 cents staying power concern' is unfounded and that is from your experience? Of what? A hit and run sales dude?
The company posseses an unique product and has an outright niche in this market. It is obvious with this $2+ million order. If the current sales team believes that they can't sell/compete any better because they can't do a R/S, then find another one that will.
Do you not understand there are a boatload of talented and available programmers who are jobless for a long arse time in Silicon Valley? There are also 100+ boatloads of the same talents available in India that almost all multinational companies are already using and paying penny to the dollar? I am very confident to say the least that these talented Indian programmers OR the majority of the Silicon Valley unemploys wouldn't mind at all to work for Virtra in a split second.
When I listened to the CC mentioning about this impossibility of getting talented programmers because they wouldn't work for a penny stock company. It is a bunch craps and it is SO early 1990s when dot.com just started. That Don guy should be fired in my opinion. He is resolutely not so qualified but HE himself is WILLING to work for a penny stock Virtra. What gives?
I am voting NO on all fronts.
Doug/Felix.....
From Dalby's comment today, this line caught my attention a bit...yeah, it's 'bout time to discuss the 'hows'.
"It is definitely time we begin to discuss, not if we will succeed, but rather, how we will sustain and grow that success into significant shareholder value. With your support, we will get there..."
Thanks for the continuous posts. It has been only 8 years when we hopped in the same train with Greg..et al.
Cee-it,
"Reasoning -- not spending on R&D is the first step to a reduction in sales. Costs almost always exceed expectations and there is many a slip between the "in the bag sale" and the actual contract"
I agreed to your statement generally. But for a small outfit with some definitive technological advantages, Virtra needs to diversify its applications by doing application specific niche marketing. There is not a whole lot in the hardware per se, it is the specific software or training program that can open more doors for Virtra. The General already stated a few of these such as the PR stuff for the Chip company. Once Virtra finds a niche or 2, all they have to do is to occupy that niche in a hurry.
sbc357, good post.
Agreed. There were tough issues and there are more on-going tough issues.....I will stay put for the moment....Been here as long as David, Greg, Doug, weo and the rest of the good people.
I reckon the General already worked out something constructive and solid with Kelly Jones. These 2 guys can put us on the launching pad.
Kelly, welcome back to the fold. Dalby did the right thing to at least garnish some confidence from the Virtra longs. Your presense and your voice alone speak very loud in the 'confidence' dept.
My hat's off to General Dalby. Now, let's roll.
I am putting a 'yes' vote for the proxy but we must monitor the General's actions with checks and balance.
Am hoping to hear RB's statement this evening as he promises the board. I am sure RB would make his vote based upon the business issues at hand and nothing else.
That is a mouthful from the General. But I believe both the General and RB have the same objective as us shareholders. VTSI PPS goes to the toilet and no one gets anything after 7+ years here.
It seems that the General is putting the ball on the One yard line with the 500 mil A/S and we all march the rest of that 99 for the TD. What is wrong with putting the ball on the midfield with some 200 mil A/S and everyone can march with that?
I have great respect for RB and his accomplishment as the ex-CEO. I also have mixed feeling about the existence of the 'kitchen cabinet' and do, to a certain extend, agree with ztect's assessment of such.
We, as shareholders, can agree to disagree about the past. But it is the best interest for all to look past that good or not-so-good history. We've got to think outside the box. General Dalby, though highly decorated, came across to me as real raw in that CC. It is not all that bad. he shoots straight where the problems are and I 'hope' he is trying to clean house with that 40 million shares and do it quick. We can quantify within a 6-months period whether the orders are indeed rolling in or it is another smoke screen.
I roll the dice to vote YES but keep tabs on what shares are being issued and for what purposes as it happens. Trust or not, I will write to General Dalby that VIRTRA MUST BE transparent for all future Share issuance and he is held accountable for what he stated in that CC, inclusive with that 40 million shares needed to 'clean house'.
If(big if) after Dalby blows through that 40 million shares and no sustainable sales to speak of, I, like many other shareholders with similar thought pattern, am a goner after some 7 years.
Still got my Virtra T-shirt hung in the garage and am looking forward not to have to take it down for Salvation Army.
I apologize for missing the opportunity to communicate with you last week; however, it was due to a very important sales junket to the Middle East where I personally visited with dignitaries and representatives from several Middle Eastern countries and companies needing anti-terrorism preparedness training and equipment. I have actively been laying the needed groundwork for increasing sales by focusing on widening our market share through new relationships and sales initiatives, strategic partnerships, and increased breadth of product offerings that allow the sale of more systems to a wider range of customers than ever before. I have also insisted on enhanced marketing support, to ensure adequate market reach and enhance market channel growth.
General Dalby is somewhat a hands-on peddler as well. That can make a huge difference in terms of knowing where to apply the systems and to whom to close the gap. This alone is an excellent attribute from General Dalby. Sales cycle can be shortened knowing where the qualified leads are.
Peace!
Amen to that as well. I thought I will come out of my hibernation to chime in a bit. Thanks RB, Hi Hopes and everyone else in this forum.
Happy New Year to all!
Am still around and keeping the faith.
Green
Posted: 9-16-2005
New simulator brings realism into police training
By JOE BOOMGAARD
Daily News Staff Writer
Imagine seeing a man with his back turned working on a van. As a police officer dispatched to the scene, one doesn’t know if the man is trying to fix the vehicle or steal it, whether he’s armed or not, or if he is alone or with other people. An officer’s job is to assess the situation and make a decision about how to proceed with the subject.
“Sir, can I see your hands?” said Daniel Rosa, the standards development specialist for the Michigan Commission On Law Enforcement Standards (MCOLES).
The subject turned irate, shouting at Rosa: “I’m just here fixing this thing man. Call Bill down at the city.
“Leave me alone! I’m just trying to fix this f---ing thing.”
Rosa continued to attempt to gain control of the situation.
“Sir, calm down, just stay right there and let me see your hands.”
All of a sudden, another subject rushed around from behind the van aiming a shotgun at Rosa. With one shot from his .45-caliber SigSaur pistol, Rosa neutralized the subject.
“I really like this thing,” Rosa said as Little River Public Safety Officer Tim LeGault turned the lights back on in the Three Fires conference room in the Little River Casino and Resort.
The thing Rosa was referring to was VirTra, a new virtual reality training simulator that helps to train officers in how to handle diverse situations they might encounter in the field.
The Little River Band of Ottawa Indians’ Department of Public Safety, headed by director Joe LaPorte, recently purchased a VirTra unit using a government grant for Native American law enforcement. The unit cost approximately $125,000.
LaPorte arranged for MCOLES to test the simulator, the only one of its kind in the state. This was the MCOLES delegation’s first time experiencing VirTra technology.
MCOLES set the standards for selection, employment, licensing, revocation, and funding in both public and private law enforcement in Michigan.
VirTra is a 180-degree, three-screen system designed to mimic the sight path of peripheral vision. A virtual reality scenario is projected on the screen, and the operator can customize the action in the scene depending on how well the user is reacting to the scenario.
In one of the scenarios Rosa tried, he was responding solo to a heated domestic argument involving a total of four subjects who spoke little English. They were in groups of two on opposite sides of a yard. LeGault escalated the situation, and none of the subjects responded to Rosa’s commands. Then one of them pulled a gun and began firing at Rosa. He was trying to watch both of the groups at once, and did neutralize the subject, but not before getting hit himself.
“It just goes to show you that two officers can take on the world, but one can’t even watch his own back,” he said.
The scenarios are designed to train officers in communication and awareness skills as well as to test their tactical abilities and reactions. The program gives officers their choice of lethal and non-lethal force, and the goal of the situation is not always to neutralize the subject by shooting him.
“As the technology advances, we get closer and closer to reality,” Rosa said. “What a system like this does is take reality and bring it into a training environment.
“We love technology — it’s a key to the success of our training.”
Officers are able to use real firearms fitted with a CO2 cartridge that recoil when fired at the screen. Weapons on hand for the demonstration were an M-4 assault rifle, 12-gauge shotgun, .45-caliber pistol and pepper spray. The simulator, which also features a premium surround sound system, also uses real-life sounds at real-life volumes.
The operator can escalate the noises in the simulation to make things difficult to hear and can change the demeanor of the subjects officers are supposed to apprehend. LeGault can choose from an array of distractions to add to the scenario to see how the trainee will react when under pressure.
“We challenge the officers to make a decision,” LeGault said.
LeGault, who was trained by the company in a three-day tutorial session, can also deliver an electric shock to the user via a shock belt if the user is not performing correctly. LeGault can just zap the trainee or can deliver a short, but stunning jolt of 80,000 volts — more voltage than a taser, but in a shorter duration — enough to knock down the person. He said that he doesn’t often use the jolt, but does give trainees a short zap if they’ve been shot or if he needs to get their attention.
“Some of them get so into it that I’ll zap them and they won’t even feel it — they just keep on going,” LeGault said. The electrical shock is localized and goes no deeper than the skin, but the adrenaline gets to the trainees, he said.
Others are very hesitant to wear the belt because they don’t want to be shocked, LeGault said.
Rosa tested out the short zap, and said it didn’t feel too bad. But he didn’t go for the jolt.
The MCOLES representatives said that they thought the system was a great training tool.
The law enforcement academies across the state use several forms of training simulators, including FireArms Training Systems (FATS), Range 3000, and Prism, but most of those use one-screen presentations and aren’t as easily customized, Rosa said. “This has a more realistic panoramic view that you don’t get on one screen,” he said.
Adding reality to the training of law enforcement officers is important, Rosa said, because it connects the classroom learning to the range training.
“What matters is being able to perform on the job,” Rosa said. “We want officers to perform properly when a situation shows up in real life. Even though everything happens at once in real-life, officers might remember how they handled a similar situation in training.”
“The benefits of these simulators are in the decision-making process,” said Mason County Sheriff Laude Hartrum, who had not used the VirTra system, but was familiar with the Range simulator. “You can teach accuracy on them, but they’re really to help make good decisions.”
MCOLES is responsible for the training of all law enforcement officers in the state. As the governing body, MCOLES mandates that officers have a minimum of 562 hours of training in a variety of fields including ethics, communication, safety skills and law.
Accompanying Rosa on the visit were MCOLES field representatives Patrick Hutting and Margaret Edwards. All three tried the simulator, and all three said that they were impressed, but that the cost of purchasing the unit would likely be a barrier for any of the academies in the state to getting one any time soon.
“It’s just too expensive for most academies,” Hutting said. “Most of the current simulators in use are the result of several agencies partnering up. They’re all high-cost items.”
And that’s where the Little River Band’s Department of Public Safety comes into play. As with the tribe’s other law enforcement resources, LaPorte said that VirTra Simulator has been offered for the use of local and state law enforcement entities. The offer comes at no cost to the agencies.
Thus far, the Michigan State Police, the Mason and Manistee County Sheriff’s Offices, local corrections officers and several other local law enforcement agencies have tested the simulator, according to Glenn Zaring, Public Information Director for the tribe.
“I’m pleased that we can make this training available to our fellow law enforcement departments,” said LaPorte. “It’s training that will save lives and improve decision-making skills of all officers who through the program.
“This means a safer environment for citizens and officers alike.”
jboomgaard@ludingtondailynews.com
843-1122, ext. 309
C-Bunny,
when was the last time Virtra experienced a 90% drop? TIA -thanks
ks7777, I think that is what Kelly is trying to tell us...
The Immersa-Dome's versatility lies not only in its ability to deliver both high-definition video and interactive 3-D environments concurrently, , but also its efficient use of a client's existing video, . If you take another look at the Golden Knights' video on our website, you may notice that the video in the first half of the experience features a Golden Knights’ spokesman speaking to “you” before the jump. That initial video was provided to us by the Army, and had already been produced prior to the project. Thus, what you see in the completed experience is the combination of the Army’s standard stock video with newly-filmed high-definition video,, combined into a unique and powerful recruiting tool.
Virtra's next/current stop is to implement the shock belt, to the Immersa Dome and enable the Virtra Netgame control module to run any stock game softwares. A cutting edge and networkable home/arcade console that can shoot back and stuns the home/arcade players is born.
Here you go. Sony, Xbox, Nintendos and the EA game software guys will have a tremendous market advantage if they hook up with Kelly and the Virtra band quick. It is again a military application goes commercial. The stock game softwares are already providing a darn good resolution for the home market. Virtra just has to integrate the Immersa Dome interface ASAP to create the home market attraction.
Can we say Las Vegas CES soon? This niche can be very broad if Virtra does it right and hook up with the right game software and hardware developers.
Excellent job, Kelly and the crew!