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Let me translate for you:
2 months ago "It's going to go past 0.30 easy" = "Please don't sell before it runs."
"It's looking good so far" = "Please don't sell any further because we're trying to dilute with 36 million shares".
"Give them a chance" = "Please don't sell any further because we're still trying to dilute with 33 million shares".
Nah, I prefer getting excited when it hits 0.0001. How many more authorized shares are there to dilute with anyway?
Funny how their plan matches last year, including the silence after saying they were going to uplist.
and dilution. Look at the Regdex SEC filing that crashed the run.
Nobody is buying at 0.02 even though someone is offering. Please tell me how that figures into good news?
I did a search too and I saw a Regdex. Oh gee, what a surprise they haven't made a profit except by diluting shares?
Another shake shake?
Has anyone checked if the share structure changed?
We don't know when they'll resume diluting in order to fund another acquisition.
While they don't make a single dime of profit they make it a big deal they are going to uplist.
You still didn't confirm or deny my DD. Making a personal attack is against the TOS.
Nice red herring but you didn't confirm or deny my DD.
When will investors decide the valuation is way too high for a company that won't release timely financials (indicated in the last SEC filing)?
Funny. Looking at the charts there must have been massive dilution after the last run but nobody here has bothered to post what the previous share structure was. That really stinks to high heaven.
What happened? It went back to .20 Are they diluting again? It hardly moved compared to previous runs and if you compare the volume to previous runs it really suggests dilution... If I'm wrong, explain why.
How do we know they won't dilute and then reverse split?
So the company is done if Obama gets elected?
Yep, blame the PR company... for why management hasn't posted a single dime of profit in 4 years.
So far they've usually been wrong on when they expect anything at all. They were late in re-releasing ifinix realtime and didn't even bother to release the efinix or the trading platform last year and instead decided to dilute the stock to oblivion, then reverse split then dilute some more, then whammo acquire a company, then be late on another expectation which will only be delayed further because they have to make up an excuse like having to audit the acquired company's financials.
What a surprise... no PR.
When were they supposed to release eFinix and iFinix Trader last year?
Yep, they're doing a great job keeping investors in the dark while prepping to sell out.
And they aren't under any legal obligation at this point to uplist either. So just like they did in February last year they could claim they are going to uplist and then use the good news to further dilute. Plenty of pinks dilute even when they have ungagged TA's also.
They could have moved forward but they chose not to.
No they did not learn. They still diluted and according to MEC they aren't going to release 4th quarter 2007 or 1st quarter 2008 financials when they uplist either. So we won't know how much they paid for Proactive Futures or if they acquired more debt.
They claimed last year in February they were going to uplist in a matter of weeks... all part of their game to keep fleecing existing shareholders while claiming good news is around the corner.
You don't seem to understand. People could have made back more money if they didn't dilute before ungag but since they don't seem to care much about their existing shareholders, they didn't ungag until after they had diluted from 11 million shares. All part of their repeated games to fleece shareholders along with their revised plans every year that do not turn up a single dime of profit.
So basically the company could be lying about intentions to uplist in order to sell more dilution shares.
Shareholders should stop pumping and DEMAND them to stop relying on shareholder equity to stay afloat.
Look at what they said last year. They said they WEREN'T going to reverse split until uplist. Well they reverse split BEFORE they uplisted. Get my point yet?
Has the company ever made a profit in its entire history? Did they say they were going to release their efinix trader and efinix last year?
One rescheduled plan after another and no profit to show for it.
Is the company under any legal obligation to complete uplisting at this point?
Last year in February or March they said they were going to become transparent and uplist in a matter of weeks....
So how much revenues did ProActive Futures have in the past?
The 0.055 sales were paints. People are selling at the bid for the most part. Company hasn't done anything to show they can produce profit. Even if they go transparent, time and time again, they've shown they can't stay in the black. Just look at the last 2 reverse splits they've done. All after dilutions. I don't see how anyone can really justify a better stock price. It's all smoke and mirrors if the company has a history of not going in the black and misleading shareholders before draining money from the market.
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So how much revenue will they announce? Any guesses?
How many properties do you think they own other than the 48 that you can look up on the Nevada search?
Does anyone have time to tally this up?
http://trweb.co.clark.nv.us/search_public1.asp
You can enter the Parcel ID to see the assessed value of each of the 48 properties. All payments are current.
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