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I think I can buy in for .005 within 2 weeks
Yea thats a great plan. In 2 weeks, if this is @ .005 I'd run for the hills. That would mean SFIO is toast, has no product, sees no revenue in the near or far term, and they have lost all their distribution network bto MMUH or MPNN or someone else of that nature.
Maybe I'll just hang on to my 'Q' Aerospace stock another few weeks.....NOT!
Man who would love a crack @ .005 today? I'd dump my entire port to get on that.
And from the news today,
Mr. Bogaert was adamant in his declaration that, "Smokefree Innotec is meeting its adjusted timetables, after withstanding the effects of bad weather causing delays, and overcoming interference with our customers and prospective clients from outsiders attempting to contact them by phone and email and create havoc with them. Many of these attacks were from web bloggers and others attempting illegal shorting by 'stock bashing,' and our customers and prospective clients have found no truth in them. Our lawyers have remedied many of these instances with direct legal action, and will aggressively continue to do so to the fullest extent of the law to keep our partners protected against such nuisances. More information is to be found on our web site."
Guys this is real! Can you believe more positive news today, Make me puke! This must just kill MMUH, HPPN, MILR, RFMK. Thats about all of em, maybe PM if your rich! LOL!
Proactive company and IMHO made a wonderful business decision to market to the World first then follow the game in the US. We will be here once the Military guys come home with these. We will be in the US through the back door.
JA great article, should be set as a sticky.
Word is out there, most know SFIO, I pray for positive revenue report. And I mean PRAY. No one knows, its my gut beliefe we will see a positive report and then all hell will break out.
Agreed me too. small cheap buys every day. Gett'n filled too.
Like trying to hook a bass. Let em nibble bit by bit and when the time looks right like a big time 100% red dump day, ya load the boat.
I'm betting the compay will do what is needed to run this up. No need to jump in with a big time buy and paint the price up artificaly.
Yea all that may be true, you must know the profit spread on 1 unit to make such a post. So SFIO is doomed?
Man MIG you sound so down and glum!
Whats up man! Your Mom and Dad have to keep your health insurance till your 26. Thats good for you.
No CAPS? Sounds like you just don't give a crap about SFIO. I don't feel your old passion for SFIO like back in the day.
Well I hope you are right. below 1 penny would be wonderful.
You left out the Military contract? Thats pretty awful news too.
Hell, doing buisness in America ain't what it used to be. I don't think the US is the golden cow for buisness anyway. SFIO has done it right. Now what is MMUH up too, they had news? Gotta take a look. I thought that was played and now dead weight. TzaFuma must be pissede latching on to MMUH today.
I think alot are looking and waiting for the details of the settlement.
Not pie in the sky. Plus its way up and that spells way down on low volume and most of all a low floater.
They go up fast but retrace just as fast, and last I looked the volume is not there.
Still waiting on my Buddy to rely to my e-mail.
Is the settlement a payment to Norvatrits in the $MM or will we get $$$ ?? Remember details are undisclosed and will have to be known someday due to it being a publicaly traded company.
I'd hold cash and wait to pounce on any big dip. I have a position, but a small one and looking for my second cheaper buy. I hope it runs AND yes its way under the radar.
I will garantee youi MMs are short and are looking to be covering at a much lower price. let this run a few more days and some of the shorters will be looking for cash to cover higher. I love that thought. Great news today or tomorrow will put this over the top.
I hopoe so, but I'm greedy and want more out of this. $6.00+ would be sweet then a run away! A guy can hope. Sitting on it till I get my price.
Looks like $3 is doable if most just hold, but this is a great run and the 3 day to c lear trades will be a paramount issue on the MMs mind.
I don't blame anyone taking a profit or just leaping through the open door.
I know the buddy that got me in this months ago is sitting on $15K at the old High and he must be bailing for breather room. I pray it spike to the sky and he is flying crap across country and can't bail. I'd love for him to make some great bank for the amount of time he has held long with expensive shares.
Blue Cow, I hear ya loud and clear. I bought yesterday @ .0135 and 38. I'm trying to muster all it takes to stick it out another week. Next Wed I'm out for good.
April 15 is my thoughts in here too, but I want in the fist few days or last few trading days in March, getting close.
As for momentum, its all about which one of these e-cig start ups are actualy making money. A positive revenue report will reverse everything.
The Military thing will be big by itsself. I'm not sure if they7 will be able to sell on US military bases, but hell they get to do what they want. In Atlanta I flew out of Dobbins AFB many a day. Georgia is a no sell alcohol State on any given Sunday, but just poke in the on Base Exchange and I'd come out of there with a trunk load for all my buddies. Your friends should be able to grab ya a start up kit soon. I think most bases have one of these and should be easy to score a few for your use/sale!~ LOL
Who ever bought those .021 today, Bump for you! Nothing like taking your time and set a few small buys below the Bid. The price is jumping with ease, so keep it on your radar.
Man go read a few days worth on the MMUH thread. Its getting ugly in there. Be prepared for a mass exedust from there into SFIO. With news of positive revenues, that will tank that camp bad. That will go for the other 4 that are going no where soon. Everyone knows SFIO, even non e-cig radar investors. Most have been in and out and with news and a spiking pps, many will take another look, read all the stink'n PRs and put it all together.
I just see massive potential, now in the short teterm and LT.
And my Q expetations have dwindled as well. .05, .03., .02 now .017 soon .014
Thats the way I've been looking at it.
Still buying more of the Aero space 'Q' company. Twice more today and in here. I need therapy!
I need to have the slightest chance to bail in that Q vcamp and realy start to bone up in SFIO.
And have a few buy orders in. I didn't think .021 would get filled and my guess that the volume was so low they filled me to make some kind of a market today. I mean how much more low can it go? Thats why I thought .021 .020 would score. .020 on the ASKBid just wouldn't be allowed. They would have to dip the Bid down below .02
Scored those .021s
Took some time and wasn't sure it would drop, but think they came down due to lack of Volume.
Get those cheap limit buys set. They will fill ya.
Hope this pans out! 2nd week of buying.
And remember as a kid pushing the free matches lever? We used to do that all the time looking to get anything free.
Great advise if you can pull it off. I love to read where someone flipped for bucks. Wish I did!!!!LOL
Just jumping in here blind to yalls convcersation.
most business have at the minimum a number they can be reached at and a local office that bears their name.
I think the distribution companies name is plastered all over these things, Even the vending machines are owned by someone and where they are ploaced knows the folks. A problem can be delt with pretty efficiently. SFIO doesn't need to be bothered by the retail side of selling these things.
28+% this AM!
And so much for my swing play. That Turd Q aerospace can only muster 17%
Just my stink'n luck.
Maybe Monday or Tuesday.
GLTA
Wow! Pascal for the reply, That post was 2 months ago. Be looking at SFIO if you need to cash in. Revenue report April 15 and this will be the first and IMHO the only e-cigarette company that is positioned to be making money. They were smart and set up their sales overseas while ignoring the US and doing battle with the FDA.
Tap is a long shot for me bailed all my funds out of here like 2 mos ago and rolled them into GDHI and QASP.
I wish the best for ole Tap due to their help with humanity
I' rather read Company news that they are growing, not stalled in some quagmire of pinky hell.
Did you read the news in the other camp, Yall better be getting on board to make some bank. Once she post the positive revenues and see how ther are set up to capitalize of this sector's growth, MMUH will get the run for the exit doors to be part of the run. It won't stop and all the bag holders in here will get a sympathy pump and allow the door to open for an exit once more.
I only post this since I feel I had a big impact in bringiung people in to MMUH when it first dropped news of going e-cig.
RA, MrT is in heaven these days. I don't think some I-hub poster could ruin his day. I got the feeling we are getting to that auto pilot stage in the game.
I'm telling all my close ones to be buying this. 1 share for every dollar they own of personel debt. 3 would be better, but definitly a life changer.
Other than PM, which is untouchable @ $50 ps, to most, is the next best tobacco related company to be owning. Show us the money and this will be picked up by many of the talking heads.
Kool-aid anyone? Yea I got a case!
And so what its not being sold in the US, Tell that to GDHI, their product is only available in China and that dern Fred Thompson is doing a documentry on those guys for his new Ammerican buisness trend show.
Yea no joke, Why is it when the stocks I want to run so as to swing into SFIOP, drop news on the same day and both get a bump and run.
I hate that Q aerospace company, better bail while the iron is hot, but she dropped so much waiting on news there is no swing ability in a play.
Guess I should be happy with what I have been buying the last few days.
The news today is just another signal that SFIO is falling into place.
Talk about an egg timmer being set and ticking off every day.
And if you want to sample the e-cig drive or fly to Nashville and go knock on the door. Thomas has a house full of these things. All it takes is an e-mail or phone call. JMHO
Been away on Spring Break with the family and saw the small raise in my account. No big deal till I saw my CERP price and about had the big one! Then the r/s sunk in.
This is one of my longest long term play and almost never look, what a thrill for those few moments.
Just another step behind us. all is cool if she stays above $3.50
This is the way of the future. BPA is still a death nail for regular plastics. Our day is coming one step at a time.
I want to know how far out will the show air. 3 mos, 6 mos, weeks?
I hope they do a 60miniutes style show detailing all aspects of GDHI.
I never heard of Fred Thompson's show. News to me, but will take it for sure. It spells eyeballs to me. expect the stock to get a nice push when it does air.
Can you imagine all the BB shares are retired, we bec ome debt free and then the show airs. Your talking dollars per share. imo
And why GDHI? How'd they chose us?
Ya gotta dig this action today. Did my soul good after the bone head moves I've had the last two weeks. Its a small gain,but green is green. I pray she keeps up and makes another run tomorrow.
No news for 3 days.
Hey 1E, just got in and saw your note on Mesa air. Yea these are two I've been watching for a bottom bounce. Looks to be looking for one in both camps.
Have you bought in yet? In either?
I do know Focalin is the drug of choice in my small Alabama town. I asked my doc buddy and he says he writes the snot out of it.
My DD on this sucks. Had a Fed Ex buddy texed me this stock Sunday to take a look and wow! I feel when the details of this settlement is known and the players are all happy, it will soar. But now, like you watchingf all the profit taking. Looks like nothing is pushing it up.
Man when stocks jump up like that its almost impossible to guess the landing. I for sho don't want to be a bag holder today.
In addition, SFI is pledging receivables and inventory of its Belgian subsidiary Smokefree Innotec, Inc. bvba in the amount of 200,000 Euros, bringing the pledge for the line of credit to 300,000 Euros or $408,000 in total.
And some still keep asking if theres product?
Thats real collateral, you make the call, Its your money!
Not responding to you aak, just got back in off the raod from Spring Break and getting caught up on whats goin on
After reading up in the mmuh camp, man! SFIO ate their lunch. Probably just sent them into Chapter 13. Wait till revenue report and most of the die hards will take the hit and find shelter in here. They had a good chance, but looks like toast is being served over there.
But you just can't forget the amount of nothing from the Company.
The Military deal was a kick in the sack, but surley there were other deals in the works?
The quiet is the death nail going on and if they are diluting that wonderful Low float then they are in trouble to some degree.
.005 was a reentry point I was looking at. Other than That no-way, not with the revenue report just around the corner in that other camp.
I think MMUH had a good plan from the start, but powers at be killed this one.
Still no web site to buy from amazes me. Like they have been totaly shut down. TazFuma must be pissed hitching their wageon to MMUH.
Are they even in buisness anymore?
Amen to that.
I call it the oportunity cost associated with owning a stock. Hence I swing trade and been swing'n my nads off the last few weeks just looking to land in here.
Like my buddy MIG, got a few shares since the last run up.
Gotta go Urber long now. No more flipping for me.
I'm still sinking funds into that aerospace camp praying SFIO gives me another day.
One thought, The sinking pps, could it be dilution to come up with the funds to gain the line of credit since it looks like the rug was pulled out from the share price. No big deal to me. Makes for a great opportunity to load the boat. Today looks like she my run here on out. Just don't know.
So I have to assume you were a seller and will be long gone.
I've been buying 2 days straight!
I say let em all sell, trash the pps to sub penny. A bunch of us have been waiting for months just for a good tank.
You may just be right! SFIO sucks and more should sell!. Sell Sell!
I need 2 weeks of this dropping stock.
I've played this in the past as it tanks and did very well sopthis should just be a walk in the park.
If you account is in the red and ya don't have the guts to play in this arena, then bail. Just don't come in here bitching and moaning that the company sucks.
On Naked shorting, your missing the the MM DTCC level. Your thin king along the lines of you and I taking a short position. It works differently, They normaly don't need shares to sell, They just sell air into a run. They have 3 days and its a good bet that a run on nothing will garantee the price comesw down and they cover buy filling shares then, 3 days to clear trsdes is the real problem. I mean how long does it take a computer to clear a trade? a nano second, unless there are no physical shares being traded. Thats when a schwab or a scottrade gets pisswed and halts a stock due to clearing problems.
I haven't seen that yet with GDHI, but an about 99% surte its been done over the last big runs.
No you and I can't short. Schwab and ST can if they want. Just watch NITE some times. Shares come from no where being sold. They know the deal and huiman nature the best.
Been on the road all day. Did the markets even open?
The press release about a $400k line of credit reveals a significant problem with SFI's cash situation
The credit line is backed by revenues. Did anyone of you guys catch that? Reread the entire thing slow and savor the words Thomas put out. There lies the biggest bone tossed out to the astute investor.
And yall were asking for some pre revenue PR to calm the nerves. Ya just got a 2 for one. This line of credit is secured by revenues, some still think are not there. And the notion of no product is retarded.
Stuck in the Smokey Mountains with the fam at some water part...savor the days fellas.
Bought a chunk today and lighting candles it goes much further.
My Aero space turd is doing nothing and don't have the nads to pull the trigger and swing all the funds in here.
MIG you have lost your edge. I figured this would be below .015 with your presence.
Guys this is gonna be big
Just showing its low float face is all.
And I have to go out of town on Spring Break till Thursday and can not babysit and take advantage of any play, if she takes off from here.
I do hate to set a sell order and not be around to jump back in. Worse to be out and one of you shmos decide to buy a few MM shares and leave me behind. That thought haunts me! LOL
so hang tight to these low float shares and it will take care of its self.
Holding strong is the key and patience.
3 days of green and the MMs will be out in force to find cheap shares to cover Fri, Mon and Tuesdays trades. Can get intresting Wed if they are short and looking at a monster run. You hold tight as hell and they won't have the shares and will have to BUY to cover. Compounds the effort and she runs even higher with out shares to sell. The MM have sold air shares and the fun begins.
Would you like to see .15- .20 from today? It can happen and if we get real greedy and hold together it can make a play for .30 and even .40 in a snap Like 2 weeks and we have a 5 bagger. Thats why we are all here.
Where's that derm Mod?
This pogo stick is the funnest stock I have. Going away for a few days and set a sale @ 6.69 for the 3rd time.
Building that base of free shares. One day!
Hey Dragon, thats good advise but won't work unless you actualy go urber long and request the paper certs. No one does that any more.
However the only way is far riskier than most are willing to do and is 100%.
You have to lock your shares up in a sell order. And not some .0575 price eithger. It has to be very close to the ASK price. It has to be in the daily que and a risk of being sold out on a good spike. They become untouchable. And just think how tempting it would be the a MM to see 100's of Millions of shares up for sale @ something like .0023 or 24?
Bet if we were a colective group and had a way to cordinate such a play, we could run any stock up. Divide and c onqure is their most powerful weapon aginst us. and they know we will feed off each other to make a buch to make matters worse for us.
I did enjoy the green HOD Friday. That about dashed all hopes of any more cheap shares out of my set buy orders.
I'm out till Thursday and will not even look at a computer, LOL
Wait till the wife catches me trying to pull off a sale or a buy while on Spring Break.
Big time tax refund check is months away and I have to show my trading cool and not allow my adiction to take away from family quality time. I have to be in good standing to have any hope of scarfing any of that $24K.
100M shares get retired again Monday. Expect another PR of distribution in the works.
The bottom has to be in and no hope of this going lower with out setting off a massive momentum run. You ever feel a stock is just primmed to explode for no other reason other than folks on the side lines can't stand not to be in and ready to jump?
Schooling!! Great way to look at it. Never thought about it like that. Thanks Man! Love the view you have...nice!
Look at VKNG if you ever need inspiration! So there you go.
I'm so in and out of IMGG cranking a base of free shares that has about taken all the pharma steam out of me. The FDA is a real nut to crunch. IMGG and KERX is about all of the FDA I can stomach at the same time.
Cool I have a few big boards too. USU and CCJ are a few I don't post in much. 401K stocks. If you dig renweable energy stuff USU is for you.
Sorry couldn't get through most of that reply you made. Stopped about a third of the way down.
Just remember you can't unring the bell.
But I bet what you posted in that reply was relevent to someone reading.
Thanks
Just once I would like to see the "blue-skiers" challenge SFI management to improve the financial reporting and issue press releases that provide real information, not just empty "fluff"
Okay, I'll take a bite into that.
Thomas can you please improve the financial reporting. And while your at it, can you please release real information in your next press releases.
Can you stop the fluff, Please!
Or I'll come up to Nashville and kick your ass!
Now you have King! You can scratch that one off your list Earl!
blue skies in my camp, but definitly will wait on the news before I start buying stuff. I rather have cash in hand first.
Head'n out for Spring Break with the Fam. I'll be back Thursday to start my Q dump and resume my buy in.
GLTA
You don't ask the stores, you call the corporate head quarters and ask the CEO. The stores are clueless. robots working a shift.
Remember he got paid based on how much he can bash down the pps.
The price can go down on its own for no reason. They get paid by the number of replies they get.
Guys this naked short crap is as real as it gets.
Here's a good one to bone up on.
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB118359867562957720-5Yb1Y_mpcl9a2nKbc0IaV0tDHyk_20070712.html
If they can short a company out of exisistance. The money came from something that doesn't exisit and hence tax free money gains. Its a loop hold in the tax law, and very much real.
Its why the Pres/ CEO was so pissed in the PR.
mikie, great post. You nailed it square, But you are too kind.
This is what my guts said instantly when I read this about your post, My joke was not to insult the unknown situation you're in, my appologies.
I read his post and TOSed it. I don't give a rats arse about his weak constitution or his inability to muster up a strong will power. I have him pegged and all I want to read about is, BEDA spoecific post.
I'll TOS anyone in a heart beat that goes off in some P C chat style.
There are other boards on the net that he can lick each other up the back side about their social problems. This is about money and we are at war with those that want to seperate it from us as fast as they can.
Is there even a mod in here?
I'm a newbe here and just reading the post getting a feel.
Now Patch and Space do make a great point. They have me to the edge of just holding my nose and walking away. trader_lou, you too!
Great service protecting a guy like me.
Then you click on their names and they both post on this thread 100%, no other stocks they follow. Definitly hit men sent in with an agenda.
This gives me the push I need to start buying in.
Thanks guys! Paid hacks.
If I came in here bashing and you look at the post I'm in you'd have to belive me. If this were such a scam I'd take my loss and walk. Why stick around other than being short and need to cover.
All this BS about the transfer agent. I trade through NITE and Scottrade. They are about as conservative as you can get. If BEDA had so much a glimmer of a cloud on clearing shares ST would shut them down with a 'Do Not Buy / Sell Only' and if it got worse they shut a stock down with a 'Do Not Buy or Sell'!
My buy orders went in without even a ' You must call your broker to place this order'.
I'm not sure what the two gun slingers are talking about, but they seem to have very large amounts of info and articulate for some pink sheet traders. Just odd and what I came away with after getting up to speed on this fine Saturday.
And what got me in here is the CEO's anger twords naked shorts. I think that pratice is unAmerican. Make money off my property without even giving my a stink'n %. Thievery! Now if you want to short my shares that I own, go ahead, be my guess, but since its my property you are using have the diencey to pay me for their use. Didn't we do that with the slave mentality?
And that 3 day clearing is a joke when a trade is cleared in a nano second. No one carries paper through the streets on New York any more. insulting we have to play under these rules.
Hot to figure out how Dean has done it. I bet they are on it today,
Patents and they have all seen the technology so it would be an easy thing to kill.
I don't think we will see another Microsoft reverse engernering again in our life time.
It the only way they could legaly have a leg to stand on. Field day for IMGG's lawyers.
Oh yea forgot, 'first to marke't is a monumental score.
GE or T would have to start the process at square one.