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UBSS dumping again. And this tme they are joined by Datatech's old MM ABLE.
Either they are scamming you or it is all just one big coincidence for the past two months.
I would probably be rude too. The scam artist Downs has issued private company shares when he had told people explicitly they would be OTCBB shares. He also sprung the restricted stock aspect on them at the last minute.
People have taken it up the butt here. Major loses everywhere except for a few of the lucky early ones. I would imagine there are a lot of people who would just as soon punch Fatman in the mouth as to look at him. He is a scumbarrel and probably needs to wear shades anytime he goes out in public.
I took it to mean "historical" in the context of anticipated developments for the company. Like a platinum find, OTCBB listing, a huge silver deposit at Anita or something along those lines.
Don't forget they are doing testings at Anita in areas that had been unexplored. They have already come up with big numbers at Anita. This is only a "what if", but what if they found a world class deposit?
It could also be the purchase of a monster mine. They say they are looking for more properties. Maybe the CEO is in Europe cementing a JV or partnership for something that could rival GG or NEM? I am just guessing. It must be big, no matter what it is because they have aready given us huge news.
Could be. Did you notice in phatboi's post the HLS stock has not even been printed yet? It doesn't exist. lmao! Everyone is waiting on it to show up in their accounts, but there is none. Too funny.
FATMAN has lied himself into total oblivion and a likely visit from the Seminole County Sheriff's Dept.
This is sure big NEWS!
From another board (HSM) comes this. it seems the FATMAN has increased the float of this scam another 4 million shares. The last reported number was 11 million or so. I wonder who's stock that was? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Phatboi If you are reading this, ask them why the HLS certs have no cusip number lmao! They are as worthless as the paper they are printed on. Maybe more worthless. At least as toilet paper they could be used for something
Today, 01:52 PM #917
phatboi31
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more DD for PennyCow to look over
O/S hasn't changed 45,303569 million
Float was given to me as a round of 15 million
No physicals certs yet, only book entry
Physical Certs will be mailed once HLS is publicly trading
HLS current public date to be traded course set for July 3rd/06 for the ticker.
PLEASE DON'T RELY ON THIS DD TO BE YOUR OWN, CALL THE T/A IF YOU COULD AND CONFIRM MY INFORMATION.
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This is especially interesting given the fact that the FATMAN promised everyone in a PR that there was going to be a big block buy of the stock on Friday. This has never happened.
Oh I forgot. CEO Downs is s stinking lying con man convict who is currently serving 20 years probation for felony stock fraud, forgery and grand theft. What imbecile would ever believe one word that came from his typing fingertips?
This is always a big danger here. There is no argument in my mind that the FATMAN has been committing fraaud. His bogus PRs are a visible paper trail of evidence. He might be able to beg off one or two of them, but the preponderance of the evidence shows a pattern of deceit which makes the statements of Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling at Enron look credible.
No one could ever convince me FatPat has not broken just about every securities law in the book.
It's time to send him back to jail and save nitwit college kids their tuition money.
That's a non-vulgar, softsoap way of putting it. lol
Maybe we should change the code search and see if we can't come up with a more definitive statement?
Like. FATMAN is a ******** POS, scamming, grifting con artist who is out to screw college kids out of their tuition money by running a pump and dump over on HSM using lies and deceit?
I'll bet it is somewhere in there.
Good post on MGMX here:
http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38322&page=50
Today, 11:10 AM #499
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It's about a million ounces. It doesn't mean all of it is recoverable. It doesn't mean it can be recovered "profitably". Read the news and analyze it for its worth. Don't just start jumping up and down because of the news and start saying that this company has a BILLION ounces of gold. The company is 2 months old....
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Yes and no. You have to read the Columbian newspaper article (Columbian Equivalent of LA Times). The mines have been around a long time are are being mined profitably. The company was formed by five powerful Columbian families combining holdings into one company. With modernization, this could be really big
I see UBSS is pressuring the stock again today lol. Everyone should watch out below.
If the FATMAN wants to dump, he is going to have to do it through someone other than UBSS. Everyone is on to him and the buyers have all left town.
Note to the FATMAN: You had better stop dumping. I'm watching you boy. I'll report it everytime I see it. There will be no more easy loot from your little grift game called IDWD.
Volume is very strong. We are only a half hour into trading and the stock has already surpassed its 10 day average.
It looks like the FATMAN is in a jam. His stock is off restriction, his transfer agent is gagged as to the new big float numbers to hide it, and NO ONE IS BUYING ANYMORE.
Now he's going to have to slam bids to get out.
OOOOPS. That means the bagholders are in a jam too.
Wow. That's bigger than anyone expected.
I believe it is and appears to be a work in progress. If this goes the way most of these reverse merger deals go, we should know more about the time the company puts out its first PR announcing it is trading under this symbol.
It is very likely big. Thus the description of an "historical signicant event".
I don't see that this has much downside left in it. I have been a buyer of size when its available.
There aren't that many who believe in the FATMAN anymore. Most of them have been betting he could con enough people to make them some money, but even they are starting to move on to greener pastures.
Superheros 10 FATMAN 5. Game over.
DUHHHHHHHH. MGGV is brokering a billion dollar mine. They are not trying to get a billion dollar loan. Yes, zoo. School is in. Read what you put up on this board. I don't see what what your story has to do with anything.
They are brokering the deal. Why would this be so hard to believe? If they are connected down in Peru, it is very possible. Their team has some big name guys.
Why are you trying to constantly bash this stock? The company has been very forthcoming with information including the names of parties involved.
If you want to buy it cheap, fine. Get in line. Most of us have big bids under the market and are all trying to do the same thing. The problem is the float is too small and no one wants to hit us.
I gave you a chance to sell up to a half million shares on Thursday, but you weasled out so I know you don't want to sell.
I looked at the website earlier today. This sure isn't the old company! lol I'm watching it closely. Maybe I'll pick some of it up now that it has been blasted in the confusion.
Yes The problem is across the board right now. Even stocks like NEM , RGLD and GG have been taking it on the chin. This is normal though. Temporary fall-outs in the price of the metals as we have had over the past month often result in even larger percentage falls in the mining stocks. Once the metals start rallying again though, the stocks could end up putting in new highs.
Check out the historical prices of stocks like RGLD, MNG, GG and NEM. You will see this is correct on the juniors and the majors.
The winners are the ones who accumulate on weakness when other people are bailing and sell into the strength when the sheeple are buying.
Only if you enjoy being lied to as a partner. FATMAN has lied over and over again during the past 11 months. Some people are stupid, though and buy it anyway on occasion and some people are down about 65% on this con game.
Your question is directly tied to the history here. I think almost everything about the IDWD story is a scam
Downs had free trading stock illegally issued to his wife in her maiden name. Maybe he was able to dump enough of that stock on the run to 1.80 to come up with the cash to buy an OTCBB shell, but this is still a questionable matter.
I wouldn't trust anything this criminal told you. His history is in fraud. How can this be separated from this issues at hand? Like I said, read the last couple of pages of this board and do some real DD. Otherwise, don't ask me. My opinion of this felon is obvious.
What are you talking about? According to underworldcriminal over on HSM, HLS is buying back IDWD's interest in its stock. Right? lol
The FATMAN knows the days of IDWD stock are numbered once that SEC brief hits the SEC lawyers. Now he is scrambling to create a new scam. The trick has been tried before by thugs like Pino. Downs isn't even original.
OK Jag It is obvious you have been talking to the FATMAN.
Let's test your and his knowlege of the market and its mechanisms. I have kept quiet about this so far because it has never been brought up here, but only on that pump and dump thread of DarthScammer and underworldcriminal.
Explain to all of us just what an SB2 filing will have to do with lifting the restrictions on the spin-off stock, assuming any of you ever get it?
I know how it could be done, the question is do you, and furthermore, where is the accompanying documentation to prove it? It is REQUIRED if a lawyer is EVER to issue an opinion letter to help any shareholder accomplish this--And you will have to pay a lawyer, by the way.
The hood here is a brand new alias. He comes on the board trying to act like a good thing is fishy. NITE is short. I have been trading everything from NYSE stocks to OTC for over 30 years. I know how to recognize the antics of a short seller, especially a MM who got carried away..
Hood is here to stir up doubt when there is no reason for any whatsover.
Bid him a nice day. This stock has a tiny float and hardly anyone is selling. The conference call is about 10 days away. lol.
Anyone short this stock needs a new brain for Christmas, but Christmas will come too late for them in this case.
The CEO of IDWD is a convicted stock fraud felon. His crimes were felony stock fraud, felony forgery and felony grand theft. He is currently serving a term of 20 years probation for these offenses. Con men don't use, nor even care to understand honesty in their attempts to make a living.
Read a couple of pages of this board and make up your own mind.
Jim. How long do you give this stinker before it is back under a dime? I think the FATMAN has shot all of his bullets. Even HSM is on to his game and most of the players there are making fun of this now.
I don't see how he could ever con enough people to revive it.
I think they are concentrating on precious metals and any industrial metal by-products of the ore they mine. I don't see how a big copper/molybdenum mine fits their plans.
The big commission they will earn won't hurt though! lol.
It looks like they are insiders down in Peru. How else did they get that deal?
The dividend has gone the way of the fishing lure infomercials, the plastics plant, the safety needle business, the CD manufacturing business, the web hosting business and the OTCBB filings by the end of the third quarter of 2005.
It's a no show
There was no $1.10 per share value, there was no cash and there was no OTCBB stock as promised. (yes it's true, the FATMAN basically promised all these things, but always was and remains a liar) All anyone is getting is worthless restricted private company stock and the issue doesn't trade anywhere in the world.
Now we are waiting on the non existant SCAM*** spin-off of 995ad.com with a 5 dollar per share value to take place sometime in the next 10 years. It will probably be a no show too.
Something which is not a no show, however is the FATMAN's stock. It came off restriction recently and UBSS has been dumping like a gluttonous walrus with a bad case of upset stomach.
***Decoding brought to you by the genetic sequencing division of the Fishing Lure infomercial operation
LOL!! Maybe so. Certainly not top material
OT: Janice,
In response to a recent question: How about not even from the United States? There has been an invasion of Pakis both here and at HSM. The FatMan is probably outsourcing pump these days. Read his last PR closely.
since English is taught there, but many still do not understand it all that well, it all ads up
LMAO!!! Mass bannings and another board lockdown over on the pump and dump thread of underworldcriminal. Maybe those HSM mods are getting tired of watching that Paki pump and dump fest continue unabated.
This stock is the best scam entertainment I have ever seen in the penny market and I have watched many of the classic scams over the years, like IFTA, GECC, SSPC, USXP, PCBM, MLON, CMKX, NESS, AZNT, etc.
Of course, this is the first one I have seen where the CEO is a convicted stock fraud felon and he was directing a Paki pump team that can barely comprehend the English language! LMAO!!!
Even GECC had enough sense to keep their fraud felons out of primary officer's positions.
I looks like the bannings over there extended to anyone who argued with underworldcriminal as well. This was probably done so no allegations of favoritism could be made.
You really don't know the IDWD story very well do you? Read the PRs. He (The FATMAN) said "500% discount"
I see you are still removing my posts. Fine You can try to run cover for the lying scammers at HSM all you want, but everyone still knows the truth.
I would think you would try to follow IHUB TOS here and not worry about the liars at HSM. But we all know why you are here, don't we?
I saw your explanation about two weeks ago to the Paki Pumper Team at HSM about how your first alliegiance was to them and that board. That alone should have been enough to provide the handwriting on the wall.
I have never had a problem with the CC being put back a week. The company gave a very good explanation for it. If they were lying it would be one thing, but its only a week and the CEO is obviously doing business. We should be glad he is.
Why was my post removed? I am allowed to say anything I want about a poster from another website. You are trying my patience, fella. You are trying your best to cover up the scam over there on HSM. There could be no other explanation for you having removed that post.
I'm sure Matt is not going to like your cover-up for HSM scamming.
When did they (the Brink's Executives) go missing?
When did they ever appear outside of the fantasy PR imagination of the FATMAN?
Most companies naturally will try to inflate their PR's and use key marketing and selling terms.
And what do you base this on? Most companies do not do this. Most companies simply report developments in PRs. Swindlers like Downs make stuff up.
The experienced investors warning of impending doom
>>>There are equally as many experienced investors who believe otherwise
Who are these experienced investors who believe otherwise? In house Paki pumpers posing as experienced investors who believe? Every experienced investor I know (and I know hundreds of them) think Downs is a scheming stock fraud convict, and they are 100% correct in that assumption.
We'll see how missing the products are when the users who purchased one have it in their hands...tangible evidence is great for us
Oh So you are going to come up with a Downs manufactured fishing lure and a neddlezap safety needle and a Downs plastics factory CD? Good luck The missing products list is a mile long with this felon.
When this is all said and done, we'll know who was right. It'll take time, more than a few days, more than a few weeks, and more than a few months. I'm willing to bet within a year from now, I'll be on the beach smoking a cigar laughing about this. But, if I'm wrong, and I could very well be, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong, there's nothing wrong with admitting you were wrong, hell, I'll treat you all to a round of drinks and you can have your jokes with the believers then.
You have already been proven wrong. Patrick FATMAN Downs proves you wrong everytime he changes his story from PR to PR.
-The invisible 38,000 Security Execs in Pakistan>>>I thought they were quite the contrary in the photographs and from an associate of mine whom is friends with a relative in the region...you all can tear this apart now.
A few pictures of a handful of Paki bozos standing around a Dunkin Donuts stand are not evidence of 38,000 security executives flocking to see the newest fire alarm. If anything it looks like the convention building was on fire and eveyone was in the process of evacuation.
Again, made to sound good in a PR, like most other companies. Without a doubt, an extreme measure and claim, yet to be proven or unproven at this point. Financials should reflect this at the next quarters end at the latest.
Don't waste your time waiting around on The FATMAN to deliver on that promise. He has been screaming he was going to file since last summer. Watch his web tv interviews. He was lying out of his bung. He said it would all be accomplished by the end of the third quarter of last year. What a criminal piece of crap!
Never, ever, was there a $37 Billion contract announced. The entire Navy contract awarded totalled this, HLS/STS/IDS was only awarded a significant portion of the designated amount for their product field...details will be known when we get the shareholder letter, release medium yet to be determined..
Maybe you had best read that PR again. Unless English is not your native language (and I am beginning to think it is not) you might take note of his sentence structure and modifiers. Of course it is always possible the flunkie didn't understand what he was writing. His PRs look like the work of someone from an Ozark Mountains special education class.
The missing factories>>>Did they get up and walk away? No, company has been intentionally vague up to this point regarding details like this, you choose to see it a bad thing, I see it a thing to benefit long term shareholder value...time will tell.
Good lord, son. This felon has been claiming he has built factory after factory over in Pakistan for everything from Fishing lures to CDs. None of them were ever built. He is a con artist. Haven't they taught you about cons in that college you claim to attend?
One Billion Chinese internet users anxious to buy and sell boats>>>The Chinese economy will surpass our own very soon, and with increased incomes and professional jobs, comes the need of acquiring their first cars. Used cars on 995ad.com will be important, as rarely anyone for their first car buys a brand new car from their local dealership, first cars are meant to be used, working, and sometimes the "junkers.".
I'm almost sure you do not attend college. If you did, you would know the claims of 1 billion Chinese internet users is completely bogus and falsely expanded by nearly a factor of 10. This is a dead giveaway Downs knows nothing about the businesses he claims to be in. There are only about 135 million Chinese internet users. If he was really doing business there as he claims and about to laucch a portal there, he would know this. Hell, most Americans who follow the net know it. He would also know his claims he was translating 45 Chinese dialects into their proper written forms is another dead giveaway he is nothing but a stinking liar. If you want to know the reason why, go ask one of your college language professors. Maybe you will learn something in the process.
I would refute the rest of your unbelievable explanations, but I am tired of this. Any reader of this board can see you are under some very strange impressions of propriety.
That HSM thread is full of nitwits. It's no wonder. underworldpumperDowns himself leads the charge. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Every person who is swindled out of a dollar over there should get special beating privileges when they pick Downs up and toss him in the slammer.
That woodrow character acts like he has decaying watermelon for a brain. What a retarded slobbering fool. It's amazing the moron has enough sense to feed himself. He should thank God that pity is shown to ignoramuses and village idiots.
Today, 04:20 PM #840
woodrow
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when i invest in ANY company I'm not the one that has to PROVE that they have EARNINGS. What kind of a backward statement is that?
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It's a PINK SHEET stock, they don't have audited financials yet. So "booyah" yourself right out of this thread if that's the best question you have.
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that tells me nothing. wheres the money? I must have missed all the stock buying.
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You asked "since when did they buy the whole business", well, there is the PR stating they intend to. Obviously there has been no open market buying of IDWD shares by them, like I've said I am also very anxious for an update on that.
Of course. Just another alias in the microsoftengineer, professorxyz, drdowns, datatech, thewatchdog 10, and thewatchdog1 portfolio.
The FATMAN has no job other than running a penny stock pumping scam. After he stole the html code from other sites to create his website, he had nothing left to do but post on message boards and trade his stock.
This is another lie. India cell phone distributors haven't done anything of the sort with IDWD and there are no HLS "Scientists".
I see Patrick is pumping non stop now that his shares are officially off restriction and he has gagged the IDWD transfer agent from releasing float numbers.
This FATMAN guy is pond scum.
It's too bad underworldcriminal was jailed over here at IHUB. He wouldn't have the guts to come over here anyway. After his ruse about the fake IEEE Bangkok awards banquet, complete with a totally fabricated report of this event which never took place, he has been hiding behind the skirts of the idiot moderators over on HSM.