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At .78, I tried to get it for .75, .76.& .77 but could not buy anything, only when I put it in at .78 was I able to buy the shares.
So I put in a limit order to buy at .75 and I cannot pick up any shares, currently price is .76, so what is that about....nobody will sell me shares at.75? Interesting?
Update it just took my order :)
So what les told you isn't anything new, he told you verbatim of what they read i.e. "people trying to turn good news into bad". But notice how that can be misinterpreted a number of ways i.e. what is the subject of what he is describing; what is the definition of good news as it pertains to the subject matter which isn't specified; the subject and essence of the quote can be exactly what he is describing except for the possibility it isn't what you think he is describing or maybe only partially it is. Come on, you don't think that PR is a moving target, meant to possibly deflect and/or to change and/or to cover unknown aspects.
That is equivalent to the next company PR when they say that have no idea what is making the stock go down etc. Hopefully I wrote this correctly from memory.
All I know is that nwbo can go under but LP &Co will survive while we won't, that there in lies the problem for me. I have been in the position before with my investments. The protections are with their shares and with Cognate and not with NWBO.
This is all my opinion.
I believe they have that covered, the price is so low now that the completely separate and independent company Cognate would be able to purchase it on the cheap shortly imho.
This is the only point that I agree with what Pyrr writes and it is a huge point too. If LP isn't interested in cleaning up this part for shareholders' benefit (for you dummies who don't see this point) or for NW then there is some serious company pumping going on here.
Lets assume the science is safe, and the trial will come back on line again and all will be fine with the successive PR's that will eventually come out......not correcting what NWBO represents i.e. I don't want a shell of a company so lp can get rich passing all the goodies over to Cognate....NWBO should own Cognate and not the other way around......understand peoples!
This is all my opinion because there are so many lawyers who are owners of our company lurking here.
Unfortunately I agree with you Turtle, Dan has become a simple pumper and nothing more, what a shame.
If the pps were .25C he would say "no brainer .25C vs $30-$300. What a waste.
I would love it if someone had an exact transcript of Linda Liau's you tube video that was later taken down because I strongly believe it will lead us to an answer.
From ny memory of reading, watching and listening she was not at all depressed or sad. She should be if the trial had failed as some here opine. She did seem to be even joking/giggling that it might be doing too well, too well to judge who is getting sick because everyone in the trial was living longer thus it was harder to differentiate and that she said was a good thing but at the same time a pain in the neck for the the necessary differentiating.
So let me tell you any surgeon conducting a failed trial would be devastated, MS Linda Liau was not in the least devastated, he was more or less joking around and feeling pretty darn confident and powerful imho.
I am sorry to disagree with you but nobody cares about the shorts, and if mgmt does then they are bigger dummies than they already are. If there was a conspiracy against the shorts they wouldn't have given them a rope and a profit with these last financing blunders....come on man get real and stop with his wild imagination gone wild already.....it is a true off and makes you look not very credible.
Dear Pyrr,
why do you waste your time posting here, especially wench no one appreciates what you say anymore...why?
It is expected that you will try to support your negative hypothesis some in whatever way you possibly can. You have a one track mind, trying to prove you are right about this stock. Your ego is so big you will not be fair and balanced. You were exactly the same way when you were pro NWBO. I questioned you then, and pointed out that you were so blind sided to think that everything was rosy and the ups would catapult upward after ASCO 2014. You are a one-sided stay at home internet writer stock trader who believes his research to be 100% right and plays golden. See a doc soon dude. I don't expect a reply so don't waster your time, I will put you on ignore where you belong.
Thank you for another total waste of time of one-sided garbage.
Bad signs:
pps under a dollar
one of the head honchos (Les) will still answer the phone and give a constant positive spin
no announcements, one has to investigate what is going on by them lonesomes
there are still die hard longs (incl myself) that are hanging on hoping and believing something good will still come out of this
Good signs:
Step while i don't like your attitude I believe you are very logical and I have to agree with you on this one. LP & Co must be laughing at us, without announcing anything most here have figured it all out and in a positive way.
All I said re past and possibly present ASCO's is that NWBO made sure they got one of the biggest booths at the show which they did and consequently spending big bucks to acquire it and then I suggested that instead of overpromising and under delivering that they under promise and over deliver.
Please tell me where I am incorrect on that general rule of selling?
I never said the science wasn't sound or that they presented nothing even while having the biggest booth or thereabouts. But when you are going to have one of the biggest booths 3 years in a row do you think they should be presenting one of the biggest messages?
I remember when many here predicted huge announcements at each ASCO, making expectations high just like the current Docs are alluding to again and learning that there is no THE announcement coming.
Do you want only cheerleaders on this board or do you want fair and balanced posts.
BTW the stock would climb due to heightened expectations then scamper back down when the info was not as exciting as expected.
I have said nothing untrue nor have I been selling like many here. I don't think the Docs on the board here realize fully that we are trading for under $1 per share.
If you believe everything you read here we should be at $20 right about now. I also don't believe NW discovered us at ASCO especially with his buddy Navik or Malik or whatever his name is on the board, come on guys stop making things up and presenting them as facts. And what an impressive board member he be? reminds me of a having a board that votes expectedly.
I want to believe....but after the past two ASCO's where they had the biggest booths or nearly the biggest there was an underwhelming response or lets say the rule they should abide by is never overpromise or under deliver,....the goal should be over dealer and under promise.
They can't seem to get that right wither....whose running this company?
HAVEN'T THEY DID THIS 3 YEARS IN A ROW NOW AT ASCO.. IT IS ALMOST EXPECTED....KIND OF OF LIKE THEIR GO BIG OR GO HOME MOTTO.
It is almost like they are embarrassed not to have the biggest because that might be a sign of failure so either they are forced to keep it going or someone is attempting to mislead imho. I mean why spend the money if you have nothing to say, or does appearances matter to them? You tell me.
Here is my take.
LP is probably an egotist and holds the helm of Cognate and Toucan along with NWBO. She has been more or less doing whatever she wants between the 3 only NWBO being public for a reason i.e. to using other people's money thru selling shares to the public and the ability translate it into millions and potentially if NWBO hits a homer due to her enormous shares. But if NWBO goes away she is protected thru Cognate. Maybe she got very carried away with NWBO funding Cognate through many related party transactions that she thought she could get away with, not in a criminal sense but favoring herself along the way because she believed that she saved NWBO and therefore deserved a big payout. She most definitely wants to be the one who cured cancer but also surely wants thethe max reward. I don't believe for a second LP is a criminal or even close, in fact using that word is totally over the top in this setting. But nonetheless since the company has been historically basically composed of friends and family who is going to tell her "no" except for a NW type that is. And herein lies there start of her problems, it forced her to give him the finger which was her second downfall (her first downfall was courting him as an investor and inviting him into the family where upon he saw obvious issues/problems that he made most likely clear to her and then soon after the public when she ignored him) and there rest is history.
This is obviously all my opinions and just conjecture where as I am trying to explain to myself what happened/what went wrong.
As successful as LP was in landing NW as an investor/bank she screwed up the relationship and her main financing arm when she reacted assumably negatively to his requests. Did NW handle his demands well, he probably was guilty of the same by strong arming her but they both screwed themselves and should now make nice so we can all continue playing ball. It seems like NW is extending the olive branch, hopefully LP sees that and I believe she has since a member here stated that LG sees a good relationship in the future between the two.
The bottom line is LP can right the ship the question is when and how she does it. Hopefully she has been brought down to earth and doesn't blow it all apart with her damaged ego and her go or go home alone attitude. She needs NW , she needs the shareholders and she needs the FDA and with Nasdaq calling her out re the alleged way too cozy relationship with her non public Cognate a real lesson has been learned. Hopefully she does the right thing and comes out smelling like a rose because I am sure she is a good person who just got carried away with power. She can make NWBO right again, she holds the key, ball in LP's court.
This is all my opinion.
I understand and happen to agree with you, but the way in which I run my (small) business is I have to plan for worst case scenario ALL the time. I have to have financing in place ALL the time and before hand not after, before doing anything. I have to be ready for a crash in the economy. If anything could go wrong it usually does albeit it is typically temporary even though it can last longer than expected.
IMHO NWBO has failed in these areas and it needs to be pointed out. Everything else that happens is out of (my) their control but everything else is in (my) their control but they act like there is absolutely no planning in certain areas.
So when we talk about Big Pharma, Biotech crashing and all the AF's out there which one cannot control or prevent I want to make it crystal clear that these things just need to be contained and massaged but areas like financing which is the critical life blood of the company cannot be ignored or unplanned. A CFO needs to plan for all scenarios and always take advantage of good times and avoid financing in bad times. This advice was not heeded. What does that say about NWBO not having a REAL CFO then is the big question, maybe that is what happens when you have one individual wearing multiple hats and not handling multiple tasks effectively. LP may be great at steering the company through beaurocratic red tape and dealing with Public and Private agencies but can one person do everything well? I cannot tell yo if Sawston real estate deal was a great buy, it might be the steal of the century but we will never know it until they go to refi or sell it or use it.
I just can't allow you to or anyone to cheerlead and give only positive angles all day long, we still need t be fair and balanced. There are reasons why my investment is currently in the toilet and it isn't just Fox Mulder chasing the truth and conspiracies.
This is all my opinion as always.
Number one reason ops = .77C poor planning by mgmt, poor reaction to the Aholes like AF & Co, poor communication to shareholders, poor PR's where other promises aren't kept, timelines ignored, poor writing where the PR's are vague & not irrefutable.
It is hard to believe in a company that spends like the tap i always on, doesn't plan for a rainy day, finances whenever it needs to whether conditions are good or bad, has a related company that appears to take extreme advantage of them.
I love the science but hate what surrounds the science i.e. all of the above. It is like this company is a great dichotomy, it tries to be on the forefront to help rid the world of all its cancers yet at the same time it wants to rid the world of all its investors. Makes no sense.
I often see both sides, the unhappy paranoid shareholders who have lost their shirt and mistrust everything the company is doing and the diehard shareholders that believe we are close to finding a cure and it all makes perfect sense.
That puts me right smack in the middle and question why I am still here. I want to believe but it is hard to see anything good.
This is just my opinion.
Totally agree with you, NW got wind of PhaseV and coughed, so he went to Lp and made his demands thinking that Lp would immediately capitulate, she didn't and the rest is history. NW screwed himself big time and LP put herself in the untenable position she sits in now. Both combined to bring the stock to where it is now by being full of themselves imho.
If Lp just correct what needs to be corrected and NW would come back on board all would fly high again.....a big if I guess you can say. Both NW & LP need a crash course in humbleness if you ask me.
so what does this have to do with NWBO, nothing mentioned about us.
In the real world the ones being investigated can slow down the investigation rather easily if they wish to. The investigators are at the mercy of NWBO imho. If NWBO wants to delay and delay they can since this isn't in a court room with a judge presiding and even then it can bs lowed up to a degree. I don't know what world you play in but we can be waiting an indefinite amount of time with this. The 3 month prediction could have been a poor guess so as to not make the ups drop att he time of the announcement. To me this is very troubling. If it is simple and easy it would have been over by now I would surmise. And once again we are left in the dark and I don't think the FDA has put a PR ban on this aspect of the co's dealings. Again this is the opposite take that you took but I felt a need to state to be fair and balanced.
Tjis is my own opinion.
Agreed and Imho have Cognae return much needed cash.......if they overfilled......it happens with related parties imho. It can be fixed as long as greed doesn't consume imho.
If NWBO did give Cognate a boatload of money because Cognate billed them and NWBO is faced with continued toxic financing don't you think it is would be time for Cognate to return some money to NWBO to help them now? Again assuming this is true in all respects.
Agreed but do you think you really have to tell them to do that, don't you think with LP at the helm that they not only are fully aware that is what they should have be doing thought the years but especially be doing it RIGHT NOW when their future is so questionable!
A so-called genius lawyer CFO CEO PRES BOD is running the show and you are hoping to either giving her advice on what they should be doing or hoping she is doing it.
This is what scares me about NWBO.....we are in the dark with just about everything, and always trying to figure out what is going on......never in all my years of investing have I had to figure these things out...definitely a different way to invest imho.
And this brings me to state Why I have bought more stock at these low historic prices even though I was full in prior to the price decline and it isn't all about dollar cost averaging.
There are two issues that loom for me, one is the science which Dok just clarified where the shorts/destroyers keep repeating which I believe will be shown to dead wrong soon and NWBO's flagship product will be vindicated; and the alleged Cognate NWBO money transfer where in particular Pyrr says happened that enriched Cognate at the expense of NWBO......if true this can be corrected by LP in short time. I see SEC/Nasdac siding with shareholders and Cognate returning monies/shares.
With these two clouds lifting the stock will soar once again and everyone including LP will benefit...well except for AF & Pyrr although as you remember AF doesn't invest and Pyrr will wish he had...both have been wrong over and over again so what else is new.
I say this happening way before any threat of delisting or of any splits.
The only unknown imho is the timing of all this.
BTW with re to the alleged transfer of wealth to Cognate, it is all a matter of perspective so I don't think LP did it the way Pyrr suggested but since the results are the same, allegedly per Pyrr Cognate was on the receiving end since they are so close and have owners in common it can be looked at as more of a possible act of protectionism where the monies would have always been earmarked for return in some way or form and thus LP would still come out looking good and NWBO enhanced. Bottomline NWBO will be fine and Cognate will grow faster later with the success of NWBO.
If however LP doesn't correct the alleged problem to make all this go away then we will be hurt imho.
The science will take care of itself.
BTW Pyrr alleged that the trials were extended to keep the money stream flowing longer and that was the goal of the company and it s sure for an alleged wealth transfer. As much as this sound bad and their product ends up being part of the new SOC I believe that will be a moot point.
It is obvious that trusting AF & Pyrr is a huge waste of time and as far as I am concerned they are equivalent to Phasev and one of them could very well rep them imho. Same agenda, same story, same
reasons.......
How can there be zero discussion about this excellent video by Prins?
I see that it has a date of March 28, 2016, is this the first time that it appeared for shareholders to watch? Will this become another Linda Liau video where it will be removed, can someone please save it after they watch it that is.
Did you forget LP's fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders of NWBO since you like to argue?
IF Cognate is a private company and she is majority owner, then she doesn't have fiduciary responsibilities to some private partners that is anywhere equivalent to a public company and its shareholders. Give me a break. I was not complaining, I was just being balanced, she can make all this go away, she had a bad idea and now she can reverse it....where's the problem. Do you work for them?
An easy fix for LP to implement, hopefully she can handle the loss....if she doesn't then we know her true
ambitions. If I were ceos I would do it in a heartbeat, killing two birds with one stone and all is fixed in that arena.
Will you just look at how nonchalant AF is about being wrong, dead wrong about his calls on CLDX & CPXX, and now he casually admits oops and that he tries to get it right but oh well he is only human. And this will be his speech when he is wrong about NWBO, he will ago and say oops even after trying to drive it into the earth for over a year (maybe more, I forget). What a piece of work, what do they call this type of personality, a sociopath I believe. It is all about him, and then he goes on to his next target and repeats his bashings because to him it is all a numbers game!
I am also fully aware that in one moment in time it can all change, and change for the good and make the pps do a 180 and we see green again and in big way. That is why i am still holding on, I know I haven't really out anything yet, not until one sells low but I have to admit I am scared and frustrated but I will hold on to the end.
I just wish we had different people in mgmt , I am sick of smart arse attorneys who goto great lengths t protect themselves and i am sick of not having those immersed in biotech like LL the likes running things. Sure LL could have LP helping her but not the other way around imho.
Holes in your argument:
Please show me where NW has never made an investing mistake. He could have been fooled like some here believe they were.His top notch research team also puts their pants on one foot and then the other. His investment team is no better or worse than our team on the boards.
Please show proof that NWBO's product(s) are proven that they work.
But the proof that is glaring is that they failed to adequately and timely funded their Company when they successfully could have....mgt is nowhere to be found imho.
They seem o pay all their bills including their large salaries (for a bk eminent company) to owners and paying exorbitant transfers to their related company imho.
They appear bold and stubbornly cocky with NW imho based on how they handled him.
They seem to use the current Big Pharma/Gov't conspiracies to their own convenient needs in hiding behind their wall of silence imho.
They seem to be giving the long finger to everyone that invested in them even giving the impression that they will go BK if they have to, go big or go home, do anything that they have to , finish the trial even if an agency says they can stop etc imho, so there are multiple warning signs that they themselves are alluding to but no one here wants to see it or accept it.
This is all my opinion .
I wish we were at $12 and NWBO had some mgmt that took advantage of the timing of those all time highs. They knew what they had then and where the pps was and that they would need finding and what did they do. Did they think NW would keep investing, how can that be since some here say LP was afraid that nw would take over the company. So many contradictions. I really feel some here are shorter who bash and some here work for the company as plants. All I know is when bk comes or a stock split most of you all will disappear and my life savings will forever be gone. yes I am the fool for investing.
Goodguybill,
while everything you wrote I would like to be true it is unfortunately all speculation on your behalf. In fact the naysayers could say that you are pumping and giving it all a positive spin. I wish you could back up your points because tomorrow unfortunately the usual suspects will rip your positive scenario apart.
As Bill Murray said in Meatballs, it just does't matter, we are all screwed and the true owners of the company are safe imho....and that is that. Time to turn off the TV and say goodnight what's her name......the fat lady has sung.
Right so NWBO does a financing at .96 and yet within one week we will receive groundbreaking news....and members hear know this to be true, thus why I said do we have nabob employees posting here?
When has any timeline that NWO presented ever occurred timely, when...just name one instance?
If you are telling me that members here are trusting that a timeline will be meant, I have my doubts based on past experience. But at this juncture I don't remember NWBO announcing any timeline since they have been more or less silent about anything important of months so what projections are you all counting on.
So you all keep saying good news next week, next week and the weeks tick by. I have been involved with other stocks when I was dangled the carrot and it never happened, this sounds like the same ole pitch. But what I can see is that no matter what happens it appears that LP won't be on the losing end like I will be. I could be wrong, and the sis only my opinion but I am feeling pretty tired and sick right now and I am not going to take it anymore. Sound familiar?
One could have the best potential product in history but if it doesn't come to market in a timely manner through no fault of mgmt it doesn't really matter, investors will be burned. But the pied piper pr's that strung me along for the last 2 years are very troubling., especially given the current circumstances that can't all be blamed on everyone and everything else going on in the world.
You are nuts. I have been expecting to hear great news per LP for 2 years. Why should we now hear great news in a matter of days. If that was true would LP conduct this sort of desperate financing.
Why should we listen to members who (who will disappear once this company disappears) spout verbal pumping when what is released in writing by the company is factual like today's financing announcement and obviously negative. Do you borrow money under theses circumstances when you know huge news is around the corner?
And when I state my concerns I m considered a traitor/shorty. But wouldn't I be more evil if I stated great news around the corner and it didn't come to fruition.
You all want everyone to tell you what you want to hear, yet I am not a pumper let alone a paid pumper.
I am long, very long, willing to hold and die with my shares. But I can't help but wonder, last week some here got very positive about great things to come this week, almost along the lines of a company PR, just like the old days when the Company would put out some sort of positive announcement followed by a financing. And low and behold we have an announcement of a financing today. Coincidence? Is it possible that some here are working for the company disguised as members? I don't know but it sure is weird imho.
Purr,
sounds like someone is using your log in info, but you definitely don't seem your self in your latest new writing personna. Maybe you were fired and a new guy is posting for you or you just gave up with the endless copy and paste material that typically papers everyone to death in an attempt to make your point. But at minimum I enjoy reading two liners over 2000 lines any day of the week. You had nothing to say before and nothing to say now so at least that hasn't changed.
Waiting on your upcoming reverse flip (no pun intended against Flipper) when NWBO finally makes a positive announcement....albeit that keeps getting stretched you will most likely say you predicted it in one of your many reincarnations. I mean how many here can honorably say they have more alts than there are long time long members here.
To quote a prolific poster Go NWBO, but I really mean it. Somehow I don't feel the trust in the air when you speak, I mean can you blame me?
RK,
Your recent writings appear to indicate you are now a believer is NWBO's DCvax product, is that correct?
Why when the stock was at $10-$12 didn't LP do multiple financings. Why did LP only do financing when she needed cash quickly. Where was the planning for money raises knowing how expensive trials are and will be including money to fend off lawsuits which happened previously?
Do you call that good planning, look at the position she put us in.
Why ask for the minimum at the last moment. She had warnings that economy can have a huge negative effect on the markets, heck she lived through that multiple times. Why didn't she take advantage when she had strength instead of doing it when she was at her weakest...timing is everything.
Where are the biggest expenses going to......if it is going to Cognate then she was full aware of the expenditures upcoming and the fact that they at times don't seem to be arm's length is another area of concern that she should have been concerned with.
I am questioning her decision making regarding some of the biggest factors a ceos has to deal with.
Yes I agree with you that shooters are rampant here and in there sectors and that one must protect themselves from them, but she didn't seem to when the going was good.
Yes I also agree that big pharma would love to take us over or take us down and once again we should have know about that problem and protected ourselves against it from hurting us. Her decision making seems faulty in that arena too.
What she did do effectively is protect her own personal assets and shares, and protect the patents in case NWBO vanishes, that she gets an A in but in all the above she failed imho.
Yes this is all my opinion once again.
China,
you are a joke. When it is convenient for you you supply proof when it is inconvenient you don't and say to do your own DDD to the members here. You can't have it both ways. Sure you can have an opinion but when you state something is a fact and don't back it up then it is pure bashing bs equivalent to pumping bs just the opposite.
I hate pumping but I hate bashing more when it is not substantiated by facts. Either you got them or you don't. When I read a basher say I won't supply proof, I don't want to make it easy for you guys, I do you own DD, then I know it is all BS.
You are wasting everyone's time including your own posting this crap.
You have misunderstood me.
I stated that a fear I have is LP could possibly want to acquire all of NWBO on the cheap by bankrupting (a term oft used) the co not having the company actually file bankruptcy. So she allows the market cap to tumble and buys the remaining shares for pennies on the dollar. Now she owns more shares (because we all sell out) and knowing what she knows is coming around the bend she makes bank and doesn't have to deal with all the pain in the are shareholders breathing down her neck anymore.
Just another worthless opinion. But I have never seen a ceo allow this debacle to take place in such a manner as it has, have any of you all?
Cherry,
if the SEC and NASDAQ are spineless why to you think Back will be able to right anything......come on please get real.
As to the low ops, well that could change in a day with an announcement of an approval. So basically we stand at pretty much the new low + or - and the frustration of what has transpired.
Here is a question, would you want a PR that is negative.......probably not. Would you want a PR that says
something that can be interpreted both long and short....probably not. Don't you think if there was definitive positive news it would have been PRed. I believe NWBO is between a rock and a hard space....and they anxiously waiting too. Did mgmt mess this up in any way......imho sure but they were also given a crappy deck of cards. Could mgmt clean up their act and start smelling like a rose.......sure if they correct all of the sore spots previously discussed. The question in my mind is where does the real LP stand on all these issues?
BTW re the close knot relationship with NWBO & Cognate, I would have probably set up the same companies for protective reasons but I would have been very cognizant of what shareholders of NWBO might think when setting everything up............that is something I just can't wrap my head around......ie the what appears to be the non=arm's length transactions.