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well, what do you think it is...?
Ya know...I love seeing a new name in the room coming in with negative, non-sensical accusations and as Chicken pointed out, half sentences. Folks come in, try to push the PPS down and but ultimately we head up.
Do I think their fins are real? ..uhmmm...yeah! they're an SEC reporting company man,...lying here and now means jail time and lawsuits.
i would totally think it was appropriate
Ya, I think I'd like that and I'm not quite sure how doing so would threaten their new business models. They claim it's for that reason they don't release forcasts.
On the other hand, I believe they don't because they can't forecast within this new environment they're running in and wouldn't want to miss a "number" based on not having enough information to properly discern it in the first place. This latter point makes more sense to me, unfortunately.
My observation is that most companies that provide forecasts have been around for a while, are established and use various models of risk to predict their next earnings. However, as IFSL says, they're in a new environment, doing things no one has done before, and can't accurately predict the outcome.
Regardless of that, I do wish there was some sense of security and confidence that IFSL could do or put out which mimicks what you get from a forecast. I agree, Jrock, that this is something that keeps IFSL down and seen as a speculative stock versus a company that knows what it's doing, what it wants and where it's going.
Like I said before, I think a lot of our worry is based on the current PPS. If the PPS was at $2.79, for example, we might still like to have a forecast and a higher PPS but we'd be relieved somewhat knowing that our base price that's sitting on support is still well in the "green" for us.
If IFSL makes a bucket of money in the next quarter, or two, I do hope they throw us a bone or spend that money on marketing their company somewhat so all that money sitting on the sideliness in the economy can know IFSL is still here and here to stay. :)
Go $IFSL!
Ya wouldn't think so, would ya?
Ya, I'm with you chicken....on the share size and the "hope"....we really need IFSL to come through with some major newsworthy information that attracts Mass-attention and mass appeal.
we're hibernating....until spring when good stuff happens. :)
No I haven't watched the remaining vids....I'm slowly being convinced of buying something more generic given that my needs include internet and possible gaming once a year. :) Then my buddy emails me and says he built his own for $300...whahhh! ...so we'll see, if nothing else the vids have already helped me understand more about the parts and what to look for in a generic and what to swap out if I have a specific need.
Most humbly, thank you! :)
Actually I JUST noticed after I wrote you back that there was an additional 3800 shares traded at the end...so, yeah, I helped out initially, but I'm not sure who posted those 3800 shares...seems like they ought to be thanked too. :)
Have a "Dreamy" weekend Flo! :) At least for this week, we can see green. :) I made good money this week in the market....so I could spare a little. :)
amazing what $100 will buy you for the weekend huh? Everyone feel good?...happy?....your welcome. ;)
Anthony1, I did it for you! :)
Have faith...have patience....in general, it's just hard to nail IFSL when they're making money and doing really well. They need to have the institutional investment come through to generate the buzz...in addition to their great Q4 and year end.
Have a great weekend all....
wow!...exactly as you predicted....
Ya, GM jrock...just sittin' n' waitin'.....stock pergatory. :)
How does it trade at 19 cents when the bid/ask are 18 and 22?
ANyways...lol...whatever games are being played...have fun...nothing but confidence here.
Nice, looks like we knocked out the Ask at 19.5...keep it goin' IFSL!
Pretty sure that patience will be a virtue and lucrative.
Consider this, the company went through a strange year, maybe 2. Many have been watching this stock from the sidelines and have seen it rise and fall based on weak business models. Now, however, they've had a great quarter and will have another one, in all likelihood. I don't think we had that before. Before, we merely had a 1 lucky shot quarter, right? Then, as the new investors piled on and the their business continued, issues started popping up, credibility started to get rattled.
It's still early in the new business models and YET!!!, they have had a multi-million dollar quarter with business still booming into the next quarter, and year end.
Previously, they had debt. Now? I believe they are debt free and cash flow positive, but I won't jump to conclusions there.
How long do you think a (potentially) cashflow positive company with little to no debt is going to go unnoticed? Markets are still bullish recently and people are likely getting that feeling that they've missed the boat on some great entry points for stocks on sale. THey may start chasing. When they find out that this stock is still on sale and hyper undervalued, it will all take off and happen in such a flash that folks who bought in most recently at $0.75, will regret not having bought in at these lower prices. It won't trade on air, when IFSL becomes the golden child again....
I am definitely assuming that business continues on a relatively similar trend to what it is doing now. I'm not assuming a large downturn because whatever IFSL did wrong in the past, with previous business models and practices, has been changed, converted and improved upon. My bet is to the upside on what it is I'm not assuming.
I think it's very possible we are surprised to find out that IFSL is doing EVEN better than expected which was already in the "amazing" category. That is going to BEG THE question!!..."How much potential can this business model have???"....and it's on that day, when we're asking "how high can the beanstock grow?" versus "how deep does this rabbit hole go?", that speculation and volume will be abound.
Good luck to you Bowieboy....and everyone else of course. No one who set out on a pioneering trip landed anything good, or found anything amazing WITHOUT going/doing where/what others would not.
If you stand in this line, you stand to gain soooo much....from a "potential" stand point. All stocks are speculative and relative and the only difference is "marketing"...the word WILL get out...it can't not. :) It's just a matter of time.
You know...I see a daily channel with this ...but not sure the technicals play out so well with irradic and low volume.
Late Reply but : "Apparently not well" :)
Seems like UDWK is so well poised technically and when considering the types and sizes of contracts they have (ie. Cabella's and government) but I wonder if management has what it takes to monetize the company...make it profitable.
I've been with them for "quite" a while.
Agreed!
You have a good weekend too...and everyone else!
Don't get me wrong...I feel that way too....but IF they do put up then it will be even more fruitful for me. Also, I'm not buying to boost the price or provide support...this is pure greed...I just want a better price average given what we all expect to be another great quarter and hopefully some bigger players showing up if they actually do "put up".
I guess now, if the price pops up over 50 cents or $1....I won't be feeling "non-buyers remorse" :)
Actually I"m a little surprised that the long term holders aren't snapping up a few of these cheapies down here.. I snagged another 25k shares between the 22 and 17 cents days....I'd say 19.5 cents is roughly my average and I'd recommend that if you're not selling and are willing to hold and continue to believe, then you'd might as well do yourself a favor and pick up a few....this is at least bound to have another good spike with the anticipated good Q4 fins and year end. If you wait until it gets closer, the quick players are going to wipe out this 19 cent level and then we'll all be back wishing for 1 more chance to buy cheapy shares. Now that it's here...folks are tentative. Funny I think.
I definitely liked it...
wew!...I just watched Contagion last night....did everyone catch the MEV-1 virus? :)
definitely! :)
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Well, I hate to do this because each time I mention anything on a technical charting side of things, we plummet. But on the other hand, I still have cash ready to scoop up any loose shares....so maybe that's the idea? :)
Anyways...looks like we close back inside the channel and despite how it feels, the charts still look okay...the weekly chart is showing a sharp bull flag. In addition the daily stochastics are still showing a the support is starting to come in and the selling is slowing off. In addition, it shows that yesterday may have just been a one off anomaly that would have gone really unnoticed in most stocks that trade with higher volumes. I wouldn't be surprised to see us end the week a little bit higher, closer to where we were before margin call man showed up with his trousers down. :)
ANyways, that last little bit is speculation...the take away is that we are still showing an orderly channel and there are some signs for a reversal in the coming weeks....which coincidentally will line up well with Q4 anticipation.
IFSL....any news you'd like to share? Anyways you could bump up earnings delivery or buy more of yours shares through your buy back program? Maybe try buying some news? :)
Let's go $IFSL!!!
Well, whoever it is, feel free to ping me and we can negotiate! ;)
Yeah, I learned over the last couple of years that having cash on the sidelines is always good regardless of how well things seem to be with the stocks that are flying....there's always a pullback or your big pick takes another dip and you want to average down. ANyways...I get a little sick when I'm fully invested....at least if it's all up front. If it happened over multiple buy ins etc...then I feel better.
I'm kinda happy that my new avg price is near 33 cents.! :) Of course, that happiness will change with "the wind". :)
I feel like IFSL already hit the iceberg and is back with the new and improved boat shell reinforcement. :)
No worries...I get you and I get others on the pessimism....I let it fly now and then too! :) And like I said, I actually wouldn't disagree with you if it wasn't for the fact that we've got SEC validated proof that this company isn't shamming us. If they weren't an SEC reporting company, then you've really got to consider what you mentioned earlier. I think I am involved with another company that is using it's shareholders like ATM machines.
we're all concerned, but we just need the wind at our backs now. We can see the boat, the oars, the captain, the water and the horizon....we need some MOMO to GOGO! :)
The other thing is that we're micromanaging this stock sometimes. Like Ashaman and others have mentioned before, we've got projects in place that take 90 days at a "minimum" for example (like the uplisting to OTC:BB) but we all want it NOW and it's tough to wait when everything is always just around the corner. And what's worse?....is you don't know if that thing you're waiting for is going to be trigger to get our MOMO going. But as long as they keep performing, growing and profiting, it can only go unnoticed for so long.
You don't want to be on the sidelines when wallstreet gets infatuated with IFSL. :)
oh I'm more than "good" with what I have....but couldn't resist. I basically decided that if I'm not selling then I need to take this opportunity at this price.
I'm wondering if the MM's are doing this because they normally woulnd't let average joe like me get in on the action...it would come and go around my bid before I knew what happened. I won't say what I think it could spell IF IT IS the MMs. :)
Regarding another comment above this one you that you made, on whether it could have been one person or multiple today: I think it certainly could have been multiple, but it also could have been someone selling at "market" prices vs. limit. I've had that happen before when I was first starting out. I placed a stop order at X price and then it started as requested. However, because volume was so low, the pps kept dropping to find bids and I kept filling them....losing much more than intended.
Also, I saw for most of today and maybe yesterday (?)...that there were roughly 60k shares sitting at the ask which indicated to me that someone was already signaling an exit. Maybe they got tired of waiting and sold to market instead of limit or maybe between them and another person or two who had stop loss orders in, they all got walloped. I think that's what allowed me to easily pick these shares up. I personally think that if it was MMs, the pps would have moved big but it would have been on low volume. Just a guess.
Your question/concern is well warranted....Here's where I can't get past in order to go along with your concern however; they're making money (actually they're making tons of profits) and this is an SEC reporting company looking to trade up one more level on the OTC:BB. Also, if ifsl management was trying to offload, we'd see reports come out of insider trading, none of which we've seen. They'd be going to jail for a very long time if that were true.
So I wouldn't worry too much that this was any devious thing. I think it's likely something as chickenvestor said regarding a margin call or someone was trying to pay down their CHristmas credit card. :)
I'm saying all this above because the overwhelmingly positive news reports they issue are more than just words given that they're backed up by their submissions to the SEC regarding their cash/profits. I've got an investment in another high risk stock where I'm not so lucky to have revenues coupled with profits...rather just the puff and huff and what we all hope one day might be.
I think this is a buying opportunity. Like you said, if it does get to 15 cents and start over, your risk:reward relationship is favored to your side. :)
Go $IFSL!
LOL...I hear ya....but don't get one from Jrock...I hear it's never "just a hug" from him. hahahe... j/k :)
I concur and feel that frustration too!>...How I deal with it is I get real nasty on the bid and slap the ask around a little too! :)
Maybe you'll get transferred and be my roommate :)
yes....it's nothing in between either! Complete Genius...or I should belong in a mental institution (of course, some geniuses remain there as well) ;).....
Now I'm waiting for my verdict.
Yeah,...agreed....this is just market emotions playing out at its finest....imo.
hahah....THx Chicken! If that poster does show up?....tell him I'll sell him/her some back, with a premium of course! ;)
Does anyone think/wonder that this is a manipulated scenario to get the PPS lower for an institution's first buy in?
It's kinda like watching CNBC and they say...oh yeah!...Gold is a major buying opportunity right now....meanwhile, some chumps go out and buy some gold and the price plummets a day later or sooner. Basically, institutions ask the news station to post those headlines so they can get out with enough volume.
Just a conspiracy theory.
My bid at 17 cents got filled quick....I'll be happy or sad (intensely) very soon. :) But no regrets.
I agree that this fast of a sell off seems like a margin call or some such thing. Wasn't Bowieboy buying margin/credit not long ago? :) j/k
Anyways....I hope this is a fake out. Also, I hope this volume provides a little opportunity for IFSL to use their still active Share Buy Back Program, at least to provide some support.
Go $IFSL? :)