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I won't do that, but I'm just trying to make a point its terrible enough we don't hear from the EC for obvious reasons, but all the other secrecy among posters to me is just unnecessary as we are all in this together and some people are going through very rough times no fault of their own who didn't realize the blindsides that came. That's all. If the info is vetted and its being hinted on than just share for the board after all that's why we have this board and have come so far in the DD we do have.
but back to lurking and done whining for the board...:)
LMFAO....lol
JMAC where is the audio for today's hearing?
Thanks
Wow so news is spreading fo TPS wanting to fight this on December 1st and yet we have not heard from the EC at all...sigh I hope they are working diligently behind the scenes. I just know every time we think something is going on behind the scenes, come to find out we were completely wrong and they were just as blindsided as us and knew just about as much as we did. Maybe those were just in the early days, praying that's not still the case.
Was anyone from the EC there today and did they speak at all...Sigh....
Damn just got on the phone and heard were adjourned...what did I miss...
TIA
I won't be i court today and have meetings during the hearing so won't be on the call or tweeting...however, if I get done with my meetings and courts still going on Ill hop on and do some tweeting, hopefully I won't be too far behind.
GLTA
That does beg an interesting question, where the hell is the information from all the teams he had working and looking at all the other stuff....LOL
A settlement from who and coming from where and when....lol.
It certainly would not all of a sudden happen this weekend! Like I said the only thing I know for a guaranteed fact is NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING OR HAS A CLUE AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON OUTSIDE OF THE LAWYERS AND EC COMMITTEE!
I hear ya, as I'm sure everyone else on this board does. I don't know what to think, just when you think you have it figured out and how the courts work you get a curve ball...
you think logically and realistically with common sense you still get a curve ball.
Nothing makes sense. It's like everything is opposite. I just don't know what anything means and the only thing I KNOW FOR A FACT IS THAT NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THIS CASE.....
So I don't know what to think about the postponement...I think its bad, very bad. I don't see how its good considering its something we want and would need to do sooner rather than later with confirmation less than a month away. We would need time to convene the meeting and do votes, mail in votes/call in/or computer all that would take time to do. Time we don't have and time that is wasting cause we still have not been heard by the court to actually have the meeting.
Just my two cents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believed the EC postponed it. Not the Debtors.
Share holder meeting postponed.....
top of page 24 continued to a date to be determined!
I believe it would be updated on the Agenda as matter moved to another time. So I guess we wait to know definitively once the Agenda comes out!
You don't think the postponement of the shareholder meeting was due to the fact that the Judge said she would use the examiner report as a basis for granting it and since it ripped equity a new one then the meeting would not have been granted had we moved forward?
Voodoo,
stop that brah, no settlement is coming...we are just getting started. I know you mean well just drop the S word as we have to many nervous nellies that will hang on every word said in regards to an S.
So looks like I won't get to meet you on the 9th.
alright back to lurking!
Uzual so no hearing on the 9th...can you post the link for pegs article? TIA
so no hearing anymore on the 9th. Is this correct?
Soldier,
DM is running out of posts... email eachother and call to figure this out!
REAL, DM I don't think can find them to pass along to the EC...have you spoken to or could you reply to DM then! thx
The below quotes from DM57
REALTIME - Dorothea Barr (from EC) is asking for you to get her the list of airplanes and their serial #'s. They have been looking for them - she will pass on to the appropriate people. She is asking for you to send them to my email: tag123r@aol.com. If you have any issues with this request please let me know and I will get you in direct contact with her.
Real says he has serial #'s for WMI's planes - Dorothea Barr says they have not been able to find them and would like them - she will forward to appropriate parties.
REALTime -or whoever please - where in those links does it specify that these planes belong to WMI?tia
Wait....WTF is no one helping dm get information about the serial numbers to our EC members...
Real, if you have them can you please forward them along! We have an ECer requesting info from the Board and no one is really providing it. Really....come the f on yall. Seriously don't ignore this!
Okay back to lurking! :)
Maybe you should send to EC, S&G and TPS boys!
I'm just baffled strike that we have not heard from Nelson. I don't think Sussman is even really truly involved in WAMU any longer...considering he has not billed as such and he told Gov, when called that he was not even aware of the POR V6 and that he hasn't been following. Then advised Gov to contact Willingham!
I just thought we would have seen a motion here or there or solomon's numbers or whatever he is been working on since Feb or April...
So I'm just kinda like WTF is going on. It's too quiet and messing with my head lol. Either they got this already wrapped up or they were floored like us by the report and are now scrambling around and don't know what to do and will pack it in. I just don't know.
Then what about SH meeting. Can the judge deny us a legal right we have regardless of a settlement or anything else that is going on. It is our corporate governance right that no one can deny us no matter how much shiiiiiiii it will F up! So can she say no to us...is there/has there been a legal precedence to deny a SH meeting with no recourse...Thoughts?
Thanks. Back to lurking!
All in Ducky...scotchri@gmail.com...Go Beavs
But Don isn't it the EC who filed the document under seal...so can't they just ask the court to release it from being under seal?
Would the EC fight against the shareholders request to get the document unsealed. I mean it does not hurt them so I would think they wouldn't, but since they sealed it wouldn't they have to support why it should remain sealed, otherwise they would have just put in their own motion to do so to expose whatever it was in light of the ExR?
Hope my long as question/thought process makes sense!
Catz thoughts on the TD Bank Notion to buy Wamu for 30 billion and the reference in the examiner report about pursuing damages somewhere around 30 billion if it was found another bidder offered 10 billion?
Yeah, not sure where he's off too, but I believe he has a life and job that he was tending to...but hopefully hell come home and play when he gets some time...catz are always good for that....
:).
Dayuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn! Dude went in hard.................WHOA...kudo's to that.
Catz would be proud of that right there. LOL.
Facts and Law, and more facts and laws!
Thanks Tularay!
Where is the info in the Examiner report about TD I remember reading it, but don't remember what page...anyone know off hand, would save me a lot of skimming.
Thanks
Working on getting there,but we will see I have a big meeting that I may or may not be able to get out of, which is irking the hell out of me, but I gotta remember I do still need my damn job...LOL.
So we will see....I'll keeps ya posted though!
Can he do this is this even feasible and legal and would the judge even allow it. You would think that if he was going to it would be filled by say tonight or sometime last night
Also are there missing paragraphs in this report that would equate to the redactions of the full report? I'm just curious?
I don't think anyone sold yesterday and so were all in the same boat and selling now unless your in super low would just be even more demoralizing, might as well just wait it out now...but obviously i don't know shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, cause I'm still thinking a miracle will occur, but hey gotta have some hope!
K, back to work and lurking. GLTA and do you!
I don't know if this is game over...we have had solomon all this time doing work and he never shows or produces anything for us to see nothing at all...I mean damn that's just downright pathatic...so what the hell did he do work on a valuation and say well we will never use it...it should have atleast been in the report...
so maybe its not game over...I'm in a wait and see mode no need in trying to sell now damn gap downS
So were basically waiting on a hail mary...sigh!
Well guess were forced to wait it out anyway since this is such a huge gap down...whistles
hmmm his office is on 15th and K in DC maybe I need to stop by....whistles
;)
Did Germany opne at the days previous close and drop or did it, just open at super duper low prices?
Well heck that's better than saying I know and not saying anything...Kudos
Night...
Don the Civil War is coming soon hope your prepared...OSU FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT
this is what irritates me...Susman did not know about POR v.6, but whatever, but then you have longs and people like Bopfan and gib saying they know things are about to happen, but can't speak. Why the F not. Hell peoples lives have been ruined due to this corruption and such and you won't share something with bretheren to reassure and put people to ease....hell what is it going to hurt that is not already demoralizing and depressing. if your not going to share then don't Fing post.
I may have an outburst next hearing just cause no one seems to want to step up and I fing dare someone to stop me or say something to me...atleast Ill go out with a damn bang....
Back to lurking.....
Oh thats the clarification I guess I was missing...cool!
thanks Catz...
I still say we don't see it till the fourth, but hopefully I'm wrong and BRs was just blowing more B$ out of his arse!
Back to Lurking....
I thought the TPS guys were going to began there trial today? I remember cause the judge said others will want to ride your coat tails? did it get pushed back? Damn I hope I didn't miss that, but maybe I did...TIA