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A couple fat finger trades today and this would most likely take off.
ACE, good to see you...
They will complain the Kool-Aid taste like diesel fuel with an aftertaste of algae...
A buy order for 15,000 shares at .0777
Not yet keep selling I need another five days. I have restructured some things and wish to accumulate more over the course of one week. Then I am setup and ready for the run to happen.
100% agreement; education is power, and now EVFL is going to educate the public (potentail investors). This will be a powerful tool for us especially as more of the business plan is implemented and becomes public knowledge.
There are numerous reasons why investors buyin and eventually the pps moves higher. Some look at the financials; well DM is fixing those by getting rid of debt. Some look at revenue stream and growth; well DM is working on that too, building retail centers (though there is no PR stateing this as fact, I think we can all agree this is happening). Other look at its viability as a market segment and speculate if there will be substinance worth investing in; well look around in the world and I think we can all agree this is the nearterm and long term future as other products with potential are years out.
So it stands to reason, the more we educate, the better it is for us.
JMHO
Thanks, I'm sitting on a couple thousand eggs.
If you believe in the global warming BS then so be it and if that is what it takes to push EVFL then all I can say is: "Damn it's getting hot"
They need to upgrade, it doesn't show the two places in the San Diego area I know of.
Can not disagree with that statement; the fincials for EVFL looked a whole lot better, even with the high O/S, at least we can see something within the EVFL financials that points to what appears to be a company trying to strengthen and position itself to capitalize in this market.
Can not recall if had said how many shares if any he had. The P.I. was brokemans. Lets be realistic; who in their right mind would hire a pi for a penny stock and for that matter, any stock? Unless your suspicious of immense illegal activity and of course have the money to spend on a pi. It's just ridiculous.
I disagree; if you contact DM he will undoubtedly share his plans with you as an investor but those plans won't be PR'd until they are infact done deals. By sharing his plan is not insider information. Inside info would be if a contract were signed for lets say millions in private funding and he were to tell someone of this before making it public in a filing. Think back to the specifics of what got Martha Stewart in trouble. My opinion is DM is feed up with the personal attacks which like another poster has stated is slanderous and if I were in DM's shoes, I may do the same thing.
No need to lie if you have a confidental agreement
I would give till end of year to see movement of great value; don't expect anything of significance in next few weeks but JMHO we longs will probablly have a very good christmas and happy new year. I'm guessing April 15th will even be less stressful.
No Bid has been debated here alot; it's not controlled in anyway by the company, other then a good PR could help that change but the actual bid/ask is not set by the company as I'm sure you know. I don't think it shows the company is diluting as some here would have you believe. IMO it's the reaction of the market for this stock caused by the large volume of flippers and eventually those who wanted to flip just getting out and going elsewhere. IMO the lack of volume today and the last couple trading days is due to those guys having left and now the longs are holding for the most part. I also don't think you have MM's trading below the .0001; now I could be wrong on that but I just don't see it. MM's intent is to move the pps one way or another and that hasn't been done.
All companies associated with DM are interrelated IMHO. So with that being said; yes, I think they can have an affect on each other but how much is anyones guess.
So true, but in this case, speaking from my own ego and arrogance; it's the stuff directed directly at DM that has him pissed.
Certainly possible but IMHO that is a blanket statement, I don't believe the company has been diluting for a couple weeks now, instead I fell as if they have reversed that process. Again JMHO, I think we will get a PR sometime before end of year stating a new O/S that has been achieved via a company buyback. It is not necessary they announced before a buyback is instituted.
There is no doubt (its in the financials) that in the past the company has diluted alot. But as I stated above; I think EVFL is entering into a new era, one that will propel them, if plans instituted are efficient, forward becoming a great little company.
Putting it in perspective:
I went back and reviewed some of Dustys' posts; to say the least they can be considered deflamatory which would certainly piss me off if directed at me. JMHO; I don't think DM expects any monetary award but only to make a point here. It's quite possible that Dusty had motives of his own which are now backfiring. Greed can be a great motivator/instigator and if statements have been made that are derogitory and liablious then I think I too would follow with action such as DM is doing now.
All is JMHO, it would be nice to get Dusty's response to the legal action; although that might not be in his favor nor would I expect it at this point.
All of us here are going to make assumptions so here is mine:
Dusty signed confidentiality agreement.
DM explained business plan, structure, time lines, advanced events being sought, negotiated and implemented; just to name a few topics.
Greed takes over.
Dusty posts on board opposites and derogitory comments to keep pps down while all along he is loading up on shares.
Any thoughts?
Man; I'm starting to think this would make a great story for a movie of the week. We are starting to get conspiracy theories, some depict a demented, evil, crook of a CEO while at the same time shareholders are battling between each other, soon I would expect to see Mike Douglas walk in an attempt a hostile takeover. Title of film "Evolutionary Response"
EVFL but a year from now.....
I'm more optimistic .03 and .05 by year end maybe sooner.
Very shrewd of DM with this move. Ihave seen this first hand in a company I was working for years ago. He exchanged debt for nothing (stock in something that has no value) butit is not for nothing.
In the instance I witnessed first hand the strtegic move was done to make the principal company; in this case EVFL, stronger and in position to capitalize on events about to unfold.
I seem to remember that EVFL got back a majority interest in PNG awhile back (I could be mistaken, memory is not what it used to be). Seemed at the time to be a pointless asset. Now the light is coming on; PNG is a write off; being utilized obviously to allow EVFL to get rid of its debt, not a bad idea if you think about it. The company is going down why not let it take EVFL debt with it? The shares of stock we got in exchange means nothing to EVFL or us as shareholders. It's small and will serve as a write off for EVFL and a small one at that so no real impact on us. The big impact for us is that we got rid of more debt.
It's unclear to me the details of the 536g's of debt we got rid of but in the long run; I don't think it will amount to much but again DM has gotten rid of more debt.
All in all some good moves which should allow EVFL to further strengyhen it's books and position us to move forward with what is stacking up to be a sound business plan for expotntial growth and expansion in the very near future, provided DM can continue to move forward and impliment his business plan which I think we will see unfold over time. JMHO but I also think by the end of this year we will see some big pluses and a couple big aspects of this plan come to light allowing the pps to start moving north.
On another note: There is an independent gas station about a mile from my house. They have just recently stopped selling all gas and now only sell desiel. Desiel #2 and two grades of Bio desiel. I find this very interesting for a couple reasons:
Independents margins on gasoline are very small and usually are nonexistent in the low grades of gas. So why would an independent stop selling gas all together and only sell desiel and biodesiel if there was no profit margin and since there is profit in higher grades of unleaded why not keep at least on nozzle as a hedge? Second where is it coing from, we live in San Diego? THird, this independent only has one station what drovethem to bank their entire livelyhood and future so heavely into biodesiel?
I think will have to go have a heart to heart with them, I am curious to know their opinion and reason for such a bold move.
I know this is a long post but not planning on spending my Sunday at the computer just wanted to touch base since I read the post from yesterday.
For those who read my post; yesterday the wife and I went to our marina for Harbor Days. It was a blast. I admit I got caught up and started dreaming alittle. Next year I told her we wuld be sitting on the back of our big boat taking in Harbor Days.
Jerad; my post was not to incinuate you can not post your comments, opinions or anything else as an investor. If you read it again you;ll see that I merely disagreed with one part of your post which by the way is the idea behind this board; which is to have responsible and muture debate on the subject matter.
The CEO's concern is not this board, be real; he is build an conglomerate. Yes it's small right now but won't be for long. All good things will come when stratigically right for the companies strength and works within the business plan that is being implemented.
Whats would mean more to you if you were the CEO? the operations of the company, growth, expansion, generating a revenue stream and production to match demand or someones opinion on a freaking stock chat board?
It's my money invested here so I would prefer he focus on the company.
I agree with all but your second sentence; at current prices for oil biofuel is economically viable and we all know oi prices ill be going higher. Also it is true that in the past government subsidies and credits have been the life blood of the industry; this is all changing now because new technologies are being developed on a rapid pace to bring production cost down and margins up. We have seen factual evidence of all this in the news and elsewhere. Don't forget too that private industry has now started to recognize this industry as the next big then and they too are sinking money into the industry, technology and research and development; this isn't chump change either it's in the billions. Logic tells me, especially in this economy that private money on this sscale would not be coming in if it was all just some fad or fly bt night or a simple short term stop gap.
This is an industry that is here to stay and is the closest thing we have to a working alternative that is here now and won't take decades to develop to the capacities the world needs.
The great thing for those of us who recognize these facts and others is; we are truely on the ground floor of something IMHO is going to take off much like the dot-com'ers and like some of them, it's here to stay. The big question is where do you put your money to maximize your return? JMHO but EVFL is taking the necessary steps to position itself as a market leader ahead of the curve. Yes there are other companies out there in the same industry but most are in the development and research arena whereas EVFL is in a position of production, sales and distribution thereby ready to capitalize imediately on revenue from sales.
The momentum for this industry is building too; just look around, yesterday the trailer for the fuelfilm was posted and today the article from BP and as I have posted before auto industry is mass producing autos to run this fuel (just watch TV the commercials touting their cars are now broadcasted). It's just beginning too. EVFL will be one of the first to recognize the impact from all this followed by others.
JMHO but our kids kids will be benifiting from our investments in EVFL and others for years to come. I can see beyond all the negatives and set backs of the past and current and have continued to increase my holdings for my children and not just in EVFL although It's my opinion EVFL will have one of the largest impacts of all my holdings. I bought ebay when it was a nikel a share unfortunately back then I didn't have much money to realy capitalize on it but I heard the same rethoric from people then about ebay and the industry, though there were no boards to post on I belonged to an investing club.
My point is everyone make up their own mind but look around the world and see whats happening in this arena and outside of it that will have a big impact here. Don't be so narrow sighted as to loo at only the negatives and the past performance; look at the now and logically deduce the future. You can not deny the world is moving in this direction at a very fast pace, if you blink you jut may miss out on the next big industry.
Just my thoughts for the day, I'm off to Harbor Days at the marina for some fun.
That is an awesome article; which tells me this is an industry that will grow and become a major player for years to come.
Your overloking the car makers are actually building (mass Production) green biodiesel cars (Look for the new Volvo commercial), you also have to consider the oil industry would rather face this then electric which would cut them out all together. Finally don't forget about all the ocean going vesels.
Nine; don't misunderstand me, I too am well diversified. I started investing in pennys in 1994 with 500 dollars; it has always been a hobby for me and I have done pretty well with them although the first two years was tough. I am only saying in my history of investing in pennies I cannot remember ever having found anything with as much potential as EVFL.
Exactly and where else, I might add, have you found another investment that has such hugh potential and only cost .0001?
I really can't imagine a better scenario to maximize on an investment.
Everywhere you look in every sector of the market; we are beginning to see acceptance of new technologies and methods of independance, green and economic feasability. All these things point to an extremely bright future for EVFL.
Many different industries are turning to biofuels and this only strengthens the value in EVFL both short term and longterm.
JMHO; but those of us who are in this; especially at current value have truely gotten in on the ground floor and will be highly rewarded for years to come.
Like some of you here today; I too continue to invest more in EVFL, I'm not the smartest person around but I know a good thing when I see it and I can't get enough of this one.
Seems mine too though today.
Okay I am starting over as of right now.
JMHO; there is some new positive energy today with the filing by EVFL, which is a good thing but I want to just remind everyone (bashers mostly). These great things your looking for to happen; will happen, also over the course of the last month or so people such as myself, ACE. 577, Power, Sbleau and others have told you this is coming.
Some of us here did the necessary DD and where able to see the plan and actions amounting to something of great importance; now I think others are starrting to see it too.
It's a great time to be here and a part of this.
PULLING FOOT OUT OF MOUTH; Thank you Losgann, damn they got me. Sbleau my apologies.
Thats what happens when you react in haste.
Sbleau; two post today by you, in one you state EVFL won't get to .0003 and in another your holding till it hits .01-.02 and your out. So which way is it? Talk about split personalities.
Shue;
This is nothing more then a post on other board by another basher pure assumptions and opinion
Maybe but it beats debating the same issues over and over and just trying to keep it light as it was getting a bit heavy in here earlier.
I'm going to owe him big time but it's okay because I want to give forward.
I'm confused; do you want to hear from someone who has and knows fact or just opinion?
The shares we be counted as part of the O/S total figure
Okay; I was just clearing up what appeared to be an oversite on your part because in your statement you clearly said the 769mil precedded the 21 bil reported june 30th. All of his post clearly stated the number that he was referring to was from the broker sites. Again I do not agree with the low number but we still do not know fro sure. Also he was trying to induce a thought process of a buyback having been started, which is entirely possible and I believe a discussion was warranted not an attack.
Take a step back people and enjoy the ride.
Actually he is getting the 769mil. from current O/S numbers posted at the different broker sites, which is what my TD account is showing, though I do not put much faith in it; the fact remains we do not know for sure where it is.
Let us for a moment say it is true the O/S has been reduced to those levels. What then after an official PR does everyone think the PPS. would go to?
Hey people I'm actually trying to buy more so here is a little tale to coax you to sell.
With the pps being flatlined for so long and no PR's from the company and the hugh volume. There is no other explanation then dilution and at the volume over the last forever one can only conject that the A/S is well over a trillion (because someone is following in the footsteps of the president) and the the O/S has to be approaching something in the neighborhood of 1 to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or something like that. I have no proof but come on people open your eyes and sell, sell, sell to me.
For those who are extremely dense the above is all a joke and intended to make you laugh.