Once every seven years I get a little "randy."
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Possible Explanations
I have seen similar episodes like this play out on another stock recently. A 'pro' explained to me that this is the sort of thing you can expect when either non-insiders very close to the company expect positive news and wish to cash in on it OR there is an investment group (something we might consider forming one day) moving in as part of an attempt to manipulate the price by slinging around some larger (AND AFORDABLE) volumes which appear to be quality product but are grossly undervalued.
We know this may also be someone who is being compensated by TiVus for something by using stock instead of cash and that should show up sooner or later with the appropriate SEC form attached to it in public news outlets.
There may well be other explanations, as well.
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Spock out.
I have had a stock ahead at 0.0002 for about a week, no fill. Someone is getting those 2s and it ain't ( a.k.a. 'isn't') me.
Makes my bp bottom out. (That is what happens when vulcans get stressed. 45/13. Normal: 50/20.
A little Vulcan trivia there.
Spock out.
Greetings, Tivunauts! The morning bell brought nothing to the table for us to chew upon. Bummer. I thought for a second to take a look at the bigger picture to see is anything could be gleaned form that.
Here is what I see:
Host Hostels (HST) is in the middle of a bloodbath.
Lodgenet (LNET) is in a different bloodbath.
Blonder Tongue (BDR) -supplies hardware to Tivus- is in the middle of a blood bath.
All three of these industry-related companies have experienced recent, catastrophic devaluations of the share values. In order to determine if this is all just a big coincidence or if there is a single related factor will require some investigation. I welcome anyone's input here.
The silence from within Tivus is deafening. Mt Vulcan gut tells me nothing evil is afoot. We are all on the receiving end of SPs
"cautionicus extremus" which prevents him from sharing joy.This condition is a secondary side-effect to the more serious "cautionicus cauticum" known in english as "cautiously cautious".) Chekov could actually benefit from being mildly so afflicted.
Bridge.
My pleasure.
My 'long position":
Though I have no recent data upon which to hang mein hoot, every single timw someone comes on this forum to report what they have experiences while talking with SP, they come away with a positive bent . Every single time. For a guy who is under the sort of pressure SP is under, I find this most impressive.
I see a ceo who does take calls and who appears to be working extremely hard to advance his service. he is obviously attracting quality people and he is offering a quality product..which, by the way, he is improving so that no middleware will have trouble with it.
The moves I have been allowed to scrutinize in any way shows the work of a thinking man who wants his company to be formidable. I have first hand experience trying to launch a company and I know the hardships he endures.
As long as i ma regularly re-assured that he is working the ropes and attracting mre quality people, I am in. I hate not getting financials, but I think I understand why this is even if I don't like it.
When I have successes in other areas, I take some of that capital and acquire more TIVU. I see so reason right now to think this is going to tank. TIVU, in my view, is a well-primed tinderbox waiting for a humble spark and at that point, when fire starts, I don 't know if even the MMs will be able to squelch it.
SP appears to be a spiritually guided man of integrity. This speaks volumes to me, and I like what it is saying.
Gotta go to my mani-pedi.
Spock to coiffures quarters.
Even among misfits, we're misfits.
Once again, sure as the Dow falls, a poor little stock called TIVU is overlooked by the investment world while value is distributed to pump & dumps and other scams. The way we are ignored , one would think we are the island from which all skulls and crossbones originate.
Yet, a small band of hardy, tireless and ever hopeful gambl, uh.... investors try to no avail to create a map of the Earth as they sit upon the shore of a small island near the Bering Straits. Using only a beatup compass, some old bearskins and a clump of hair from a long-dead, but fabled Eskimo with legendary powers, these vigilant souls try to deduce what goes on in the world with their investment.
How can the internet be so full of googlenuggets of every conceivable kind, yet it seems even a military blackops veteran would be hardpressed to tell them if the famed Shiva of Prakash is a real person.
Perhaps, next time. perhaps when the planets align in the right way, when the embers from the ritual fire glow that special colour of tempered gold, our intrepid...
..........oh, shut up already, Spock!
I was never very good at this creative crap. Have a party this weekend. Kiss a Ferengi.
Spock out.
Thank you, JWez, just passing the time here in the Tivus Sector.
Staring into my sensors and winning arguments against the ship's computer get's pretty dull, fer sure.
The INSTANT we have something interesting to banter about here I will immediately continue to be more or less useless.
Spock out.
Good Night, MediaG3.
It appears you are quietly returning to the land of triplenaught "X".... from which you once came. You have surely swallowed a few hapless victims in your wake. May you slip quietly into the history of forgettable things, never to return.
Do I 'like' to party?
If you are referring to that social activity where one consumes psychotropic snacks, mood-altering malts or genetically enhanced, Ferengiphilic fingerfoods embellished with giggle-inducing pharmaco-fibrous molecules all served by pun-launching, scantilly-clad R2 units....then I would say, 'perhaps'.
Much depends on being 'regular'.
A"stopped-up Spock" is a most unhappy Spock. (There IS a seldom-used, somewhat risky procedure to alleviate blockages using the transporter, but the slightest miscalculation can have disastrous consequences. Capt. Pike's famous story is a cover story. He actually had a disaster of the the variety I allude to here, but you did not hear this from me.)
This discussion may be better fodder for another time, but I am not unwilling to dialog about it.
Spock out.
Please refrain. I do not know what a "lawn" is, but I am familiar with a variety of chairs. I do not want to Spock you, at least until I understand why you want to sue your lawn chair in this manner--which, by the way, is likely not a recommended use per the manufacturer and may invalidate your warranty.
Live Long and ...have a seat.
Good Friday, Tivonauts. I doubt we hear anything today only because I notice that of the last 5 or 6 pieces of news Tivus has released for the public since the beginning of the year, the tend to occur at the opening of the market. Just seems to be SP's way.
Oh, but how I would love to be wrong. I had read a post either on this forum or another one that the cost of hiring a firm to manage your news releases was expensive. What undoea me is that SP will speak with a shareholder on the phone for sometimes a very nice little chunk of time, yet the about of time to make a simple tweet or post would be but a tiny fraction of this and would have such a positive impact I don't quite understand how he rationalizes playing everything so close to the vest.
Now, at this point, hard financial and strategic information to the shareholders is severely overdue. Once that is up to speed, even weekly microblasts of information delivered in a candid, informal way to the shareholders would completely change the relationship he has.
He is too smart of a guy not to know this so I have to conclude there is some compelling reason for him to be stealthy right now.
Even I chat sometimes, but I am not very good at it. Usually my audience terminates our dialog looking as though they wish to strike me with a blunt object. It's OK, though. I can "Spock" them and make them fall to the ground.
Bridge.
It is my esteemed opinion that When Tivus unleashes its barrage, its purpose will be to divide and to completely put the competitors on the defensive. They won't know which way to turn and they may injure each other scrambling to react to the new kid on the block with the big gun.
Spock out.
Without getting too wordy for the moment, my thought has to do with a MM having the responsibility to literally make the market, to be the buyer when no other buyer is presentin the marketplace. That is combined with the other job of an MM to service their own accounts for their own clients. It must be dicey water to navigate from time to time.
See what I'm getting at? I could 1000% wrong, though.
Spock out.
You're doing something right when you can make a Vulcan laugh, jwez.
Now I have wet myself. This was unexpected.
Spock to the head.
OK, I am going to play a Vulcan First grader and somene wll maybe explain to me why, if the market wants to drive this price higher, does NITE want it to stay about where it is? (I have an idea in my head as to a possible answer, but many here are faar more experienced than am I.
My baby pictures from Vulcan are atrocious. I was not a "cutie-pie".
Spock out.
@colemano: The scientist to whom I referred is Dr. "Pete" Peterson.
To inquiring minds: I actually was attracted to MDGC becuase of an alleged association between the company and a known blackops scientist who had some proprietary hardware related to wifi. It appeared as though the scientist either had no association at all, or learned quickly that MG3 was not what he was led to believe it was and he departed.
As he departed so did I. The stock had barely shown signs of life at that point so I lost (and gained) nothing.
I have no problem with well-adjusted people gambling. Fine, but when something looks very wrong and those driving the ship make no effort to correct anything, then someing IS (not 'looks') wrong.
Just as I would block traffic ahead of a known dangerous defect in a road so that I could warn oncoming traffic of peril, I come here to warn potential investors of the peril of driving down the MG3 highway. It is a bad road and only a few lucky ones can ever expect to make it through unscathed.
There are certain Klingon ships I might not notice passing by, but only a few.
Spock out.
New Tivus facebook page as of 5/11/11 (At least I have never seen it before today. I am friending it soon. If it is old news, I am sorry. If it is not old news, then I would say someone has some positive expectations.
Tivusshareholders shareholder.
Spock to wall St.
It would appear as thought the ONLY way this 'investment' makes any sense is if youre in a position to sell short or you are fully prepared to let your money sit idly for extended periods of time waiting for a repeat of what happened recently here where the stock inexplicably bounced .
As far as i can tell, no reason for this bounce has ever materialized.
And for those of you waiting for financials, certainly you MUST understand by now that the CEO might be waiting for something of financial significance to occur so that he can report it. If a day goes by with no development, then the release of the financials will likely be postponed repeatedly until something does occur.
I expect Dyson to come out with a version of the wireless vacuum
before MediaG3 does so I think that may be a better place to invest.Staying here will only take you to the cleaners.
Spock to janitorial services.
@blahdude: I (we) truly appreciate your information. Thank you so much for taking the time and effort. I seriously thought that once the middleware was running smoothly that would be the beacon to the rest of us that we are marching forward in a publicly observable way, that is, everyone wold now understand the power of what Tivus is and the flood gates would crack open.
Sounds like we're in for a few more Friday afternoons of quietness, patience,longing and despair.
Thank God I don't have to deal with emotions very much.
Spock to sickbay for more antidepressants.
Now, if they came out with a great wireless vaccuum... I might be interested.
Spcok out.
MediaG3 Today's Technology Tomorrow...or the day after.
No customers. No employees. No investor relationships. No return calls or emails. No customer support. No good faith. No PRs that mean anything. No fulfilled promises.
Does it matter? If your stock goes up in value, then NO.
This investment has all the integrity of table full of Poker-cheats.
Yup, I missed the boat, but I didn't get left holding the bag.
Join the game if you want, but there are hundreds of better plays out there each and every day.
Spock out.
Well..we gotta do SOMETHING to break up the non-stop excitement around here... according to Federation Reg 1315.98B sub (a) sub (d), parts 1-17, paragragh 6. Q is on vacation until stardate something or other , Romulans are in the middle of some religious holiday. Even Khan is out of service following an accident in a tanning booth somewhere.
I have been challenged by Sulu to play something called Super Mario Brothers.
Spock out.
Sensors indicate.... hey, WTF? Trial version has expired!!!! What is this?
SPock to Scott.
I think that for me, the hardest thing will be to STAY long after this breaks open. Like most investors , I have learned that profits can be very hard to come by, so you take 'em when they show up. My expectation is that this is definitely one of those stocks that could really be worth holding a position in for years...so liquidating will be a difficult urge to fight...like that 7 year mating itch we Vulcans get.
The more I learn about Tivus and how relevant people are reacting to it makes it clear to me Tivus could be to Lnet what Google was to alta vista (my fave search engine before yoohoo.)
Of course, I don't expect the same kinds of numbers, but you get the general idea.
Before the Federation we had Nasa or what was left of it. We could boldly go where olde satellites got lost.(Man, hit one of those things doing warp factor 3 . It cuts a smooth, clean hole right through your entire ship sucking out 20 percent of your crew right along with it.)
We still have problems since Galactic GPS is still working out some time dilation bugs. Imagine flying into a black hole. When you come out the other side, your aunt is your half-brother twice removed, your family is 8 billion years old , you haven't been born yet, but you weigh 6.8 kilotonnes per tesseractic millimeter, and all your DNA can do is make goo.
@havana: we have heard that the books, including the most recent Q1 are basically done and we're just waiting for them to get posted
Spock out.
Nic, that is a fascinating addition to to Kaiser's post. No you most certainly are neither stupid, nor out on a limb. Usually, it is the big guns that make the wisest moves quickest... and the presence of an ever growing Tivus in LNET land is precisely the sort of scenario that makes big guns change what they're doing.
Of course we can only speculate, but no doubt, he was acquainted with Truck and it would take no huge leap of imagination to combine that association with Tivus' desire for more traditional financing.
On a lighter note, I got a Mohawk. When Uhura saw it,she gasped, that little earpiece has got sucked right into her head and then shot out the other side. Later, she joked, calling it "in-hailing".
Spock out.
Based on the order sizes, maybe I should buy 17 shares at.0045 to see what would happen. It is changing prices on tiny orders.
Only the Ferengi get better deals.
Spock out.
King MoonRacer flies once again over the Island of Misfit Toys.Another quiet week passes into another quiet weekend for the Tivus longs.
I read something I found interesting on the TivusInc facebook page and it will not surprise anyone here. SP is, of course, a "friend". When He describes himself he states that he has trust issues. Doesn't that speak volumes in this context?
I am off hunting other game lately, but checking in every so often to this board. As long as the stock remains this affordable I plan to continue my quiet accumulation with the proceeds of other victories elsewhere.
Save for a catastrophic disaster, I see every reason to keep a position here. I can be the caboose with square wheels or the cowboy who rides an ostrich.
It impresses me that despite every positive dribble of information we get, nothing happens. Fascinating. We ran a time-reverse drill on the warpdrive to February 2013 AD. While there I checked on TIVU. It was at $18.26/share. I am not sure which universe we were in at the time, though, so don't get too excited. I've been there before and I nicknamed that universe the "SpockMarket". A little Vulcan humor there.
Spock to the recreation lab.
Another Glorious launch destroyed at the launchpad thanks to NITE. Who let them in without making them go through the scanners? They have more C4 in their fruit of the looms than al-kaeda.
No Klingon ever had a finer cloaking device than NITE. All we can do is wait them out now.
Spock out.
MVP AWARD for the week: YAkblb
Nice job and on behalf of all of us, thank you for filling us in. Very nicely done.
Spock to the bridge.
A question for the savvy business owners amongst us.
Is there a scenario for which maintaining an extremely low share value would be strategically beneficial for a company?
I can think of a couple, but I cannot include myself on that list of savvy people.
I am stepping out for a cigarette. SPock out.
I thank dandelion for the info. I just want to point out - in devil's advocate fashion- that it might be hasty to assume SP could not settle the bill with the TA until now. I can think of other reasons, reasons that have nothing to do with cash in the till, why a bill might not be settled in a timely manner.
E.G. Mr. Scott owed Chekov a fine bottle of 6,000 year old Sorian brandy, but though he had no problem acknowledging the debt, he would not hand over the bottle until Chekov apologized for throwing Mr. Scott the finger over another matter. Mr. Scott thought Chekov's gesture was doubly and unfairly insulting as Mr. Scott has no middle finger with which to return the insult and felt he was being mocked by Chekov for the digital deficit.
See?
One must be careful.
Spock out.
TA UNGAGGED! Fantastic. (I hope that is what this disclosure really does mean.)
Ooops, A little too much emotion there. Feeling queazy.
YAkblb, thank you. Well done.
@Aces: I appreciate your post. I would tell you to keep the faith. There's more good here and not, for sure. You make very good points and you do it well.
It is SO not easy to sit looking at a pile of firewood that is just begging for a spark.
If I am not mistaken, SP has some Vulcan roots in his family tree.Not a bad thing, entirely. Just sayin'.
Spock out.
@markz You are very welcome. My pleasure.
@deadboy, taking a step back will give us no more clarity that we have where we stand now. There are several reasons we all know of why a couple of hundred million shares sold the way they did. Not one o us, you included KNOWS why this occurred. End of story there.
@otcDOC: I am seriously beginning to wonder if you are a living entity at all. I have run across your posts on other forums and they are all carrying the same message with almost identical wording. You may be nothing more that a piece of malware. In fact, until I have evidence to the contrary I will consider you to be exactly that.
For the rest of us: I think we are astute enough to have some sense of when we are being scammed. Anyone who has been truly long, as in, more than a handful of months long would certainly know by now if TIVUS was nothing more than a POS. I am certain of this.
All of us knows that when a scandal breaks, it is extremely difficult for the scammer to move beyond the social tarnish that comes along with being a scammer, even if it show to be an untrue allegation. Despite our collective unhappiness with being in the dark, there is never even a whiff of a scam, ever.
As for Truck's compensation, we can safely assume he has a compensation deal that works for him and for TIVUS. It does not necessarily mean he is drawing a salary. It's actually a bit distasteful to even discuss it here..and we wouldn't but for the situation we're in.
Of Course SP reads forums, surely this one from time to time. I'd stake my Vulcan life on it. Entrepreneurs are usually folks with pretty good egos. (I have a pretty good ego of my own.) For him to know how we are feeling, to know he wants to disclose information but for the benefit of the company he should not blab -at this time- must be difficult. Think about it. He has made some great progress. This much we know. Many of us would probably like to at least shake his hand for coming up with this concept and for getting it off the ground; credit where credit is due. His ego...anyone's ego..would love to be on the receiving end of such sentiment. To watch day by day as out frustration festers, to know you have more good news but to know intellectually it might be better to NOT publicize it must be a form of torture.
I have no logical choice at this point but to trust his judgment. It has gotten him this far. He has smart people around him and certainly the braintrust at the top of Tivus is formidable now. They are a force to be reckoned with. I am still in the right place and I am investing at the right time. And I prefer not to bash because I think in the long run positive forces win over negative ones.
Apparently I am caffeinated. I apologize.
SPock out.
BTW, had a great time playing Pacman last night.
Fear not, Ghost_Dog. I am never far away. I was having a disagreement with the ship's computer.I won, but the computer holds a grudge and sees fit to change the environmental parameters in my quarters at random. There will be software modifications made later today. When I finish, it will be fortunate to be able to run Pacman. ON this slow day, here is some light reading.
I was thinking about this situation from something of an intelligence perspective since we are all in this position where actionable intel is not at hand yet.
Human nature being what it is, I believe if anything untoward was happening with Tivus, then SP would not be easily reachable in any way at any time, yet he actually is. He seems to do what anyone in his shoes would do, prioritize. I think this is why some calls or inquiries do not get returned. He must sort out which messages demand the most attention and he triages them to the top of his 'to-do' list.
Next, the appearance of Mr. Truckenmiller can only be viewed as a positive no matter how you slice it. He knows the industry since he is one of the people who gave it birth. His is a major industry heavyweight and , no doubt, brings alot of cred to the whole endeavor. He can walk into the boardroom af any major hotel chain, command respect and be taken seriously.It will NOT be lost on managers that he has joined the company.
We also must give SP some points for working the strategy the way he has. Getting a patent is a great start. This is in the works. In all likelihood, his concept is patentable and at this point he is refining his application so that is meets the standards of the Patent Examiner.
1) Gets a 300 room hotel on a 5-year contract early on. This, alone, is a major win. A new boy with a new thing walks in, sells it and walks out with that contract. NICE JOB!
2) No doubt, while getting this client up and running, he scores the flagship Marriott in Philly with 1400 rooms. Again, NICE JOB!
3) Not content with thatm he busts a gut to get things in Philly running well enough so that by the time the HOST Hotels conference comes through in March, managers and execs from all over the country get to see first hand what Tivus is. I believe I recall hearing on this forum that an LNET technician actually commented to SP saying he found the system, "Beautiful".
4) While maintaining DT in Nebraska and now the Marriott, he brings Disney/ABC and Comcast VP Roger Sverdlik on board to ramp things up in NYC.. Next thing we hear SP is in NYC probably discussing branding issues with a major ad agency.
5)The next thing our allegedly failing CEO does is reveal that as all of this other stuff has been going on, there has been a year long feasibility study in Puerto Rico resulting in a site survey and the "commencement of operations.
When a company is flailing and sinking, industry heavyweights know it before they get anywhere near staking their reputation on any association. Association implies liability as much as recognition of potential. These 'employees' of Tivus are serious industry pros. By their participation, they see what they like to see.
Even though we don't yet know the things we ought to know as owners, it appears to me as though there is a strategy in play here to get as many rooms on board as humanly possible before
anyone takes too much notice. The very last thing you want to experience is your potential clients signing up with some other company who has tweaked YOUR concept and is now running full-tilt with it. SP wants as much recognition for Tivus as the new trend in revenue production for hotels as AOL wanted for email. Smart. This is branding.
Last, the good people here on this forum have been blessed in that some of the folks who have been allowed to peak behind the Tivus curtain have come forward to say that based on what they have learned, they are long.
I see so much positive circumstantial evidence for being long myself. Whatever negatives we catch a glimpse of, don't amount to a hill of beans against what we can see that looks right. Yes, it is all my opinion, but it is not an uneducated one. I bet there is much that is good that we will learn, things jwez calls bombs.
SP is smart. He has obviously made some well-calculated moves. Further, he is a man who has seen his stock go from wherever it was a couple of years ago, 50 plus cents/share, plummet. This has to hurt and I bet it is -among many other things -a huge motivator to do everything he can to get it back to those levels and beyond.
My Vulcan fingers are overheating. I am off to the holodeck for some light refreshements and to check out some Vulcan fanny. My 7 year itch ain't so far away.
SPock out.
SPQS $0.0003 nowhere in sight.
I don't understand what yer talkin' 'bout. I can't give this stock away. No one is seriously going to pay me money for it. I would trade what I have for a face cord of dried firewood for next Winter though. This was a Breakout Board pic and I'll ever understand why.
When you say that a message is being sent, do you mean a message in terms of a huge lot meaning something very important is happening with the company or do you mean that those are not actual trades?
The volume jumped up accordingly so I surmise this is actual business/$$$ in play.
2nd question: If you happen to know, why does L2 just not report 99,000,000 shares instead of posting eleven transactions of 9M at .0002?
Inquiring Vulcans want to know.
Thank you.SPock out.
Let's do the TimeWarp Again.
Red alert. Battle Stations.
I did not seriously expect to see a repeat performance of L2 as we saw from last session. This is unexpected and it clearly indicates something very significant is going on. I have been watching the otc website all day since I have this odd vibe that that stop sign is about to change or, if not that, something at least as important as that.
You may recall a certain Ferengi trader who stopped in before market close Friday and we gave him some serious trim. Looks like he has returned for more.... and he's brought some buds along, too. This has to stop or the entire neutral zone will be infested with Ferengi teenagers on Spring Break and they're all going to want to show off to their girlfriends what great moneymakers they are at our expense. This is NOT the will of Landrew.
I'll clip my pointed ears before I let that happen.
Spock--on High Alert.
There, there, now. Aren't you the clever one? I KNEW you would not let us down. Well done, I say, well done.
Carry On.
S.O.
Good Morning, fellow Tivunauts. I love it when bashers stop by to pee in our Wheaties, don't you? Every time I see one, it steels my resolve to remain long. The worse the stock price appears to be, the sweeter the correction will be. I understand that market price is a poor reflection of true value in many cases, certainly true here.
How many times has it been asked why this stock is not trading many times higher than it is? More than enough. Readin Jwez' post about bombs going off this year thrills me. It makes perfect sense.
I also read a while back one of D. Trump's booms wherein he said, " Excellence attracts excellence." This explains one reason why folks like the Marriotts and Truck are associated with Tivus.
The finer workings of this market are still a challenge for me to comprehend...It feels much like trying to grab a bar of soap in the bathtub. Just when I think I have it, it's on the loose again.
If last Friday's late-day activity was dilution, I can now say I trust it will be money wisely raised and likely well-spent.By week's end I will own more of this stock, no doubt.
In other news, after Mr. Scott 'repaired' my replicator, my Vulcan bran muffins look like a cross between a chia pet and a tribble.....and taste about what you might expect. We'll see how funny he thinks it is when I re-program the remote for his viewing screen into a phasor.
Spock out.