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Hey Steve, I had decided to stop posting rather than argue with all the hype but this one bares pointing out. Does everyone realize that they are no longer at Chemical Ln.? They are roommates with Nortek at 15632 Producer Ln. I know this was done on good faith but unless I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time, this has got nothing to do with GDGI.
One other nail that has yet to be hammered in, but may be tomorrow or 1 mth. from now, is where they pulled their request for issuing new shares. I am Guessing that was because they would not be given permission until all has played out. As weak as the SEC is I wouldn't think that it is legal to issue new shares when there is still a appeal going on. Hence the phrase, " It ain't over till its over ". I think the only hope we have now is that the new judge assigned to Mr. Perez's appeal is not in the tank for Big Business, long shot I know!
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=terrestar&match=contains&action=getcompany
Yes, this is grasping at straws but that's what you do when your hanging off a cliff!
I know the cards are stacked against us but, as far as I know, this thing isn't dead until the judge files a Written Opinion. I also don't believe he will until all appeals are exhausted. He surely wouldn't want to be overturned after he had issued his W.O. Look at the following link and don't jump off any buildings until he files, IMHO - but what do I know? GLTA!
http://www.nysb.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/opinions.pl?judge=shl&order=rev
Just like this latest thing with the qtr. report. When was the last time they filed on time? If they don't have substantial revenues from Asia they will delay AGAIN! High pumping makes for a long fall!
AGAIN!!! GDGI$
Looks like little brush strokes yesterday afternoon and now up 25% out of the gate. Wish it was a real foundation. Unless somebody gets advanced word I guess we will see more of this until the report!
JMHO! SLIO$
Hope it comes true and thanks for saying prediction so it doesn't come off like a fact, predict away we all do from time to time. GDGI$
I believe that might see fruit from the US before Asia. It has been in the works longer, Just my guess! GDGI$
I agree, that is why I said after the PR, " this is not manna from heaven ". More like seed in the field. I know that I'm only " One of the Masses " but I'm also not that overly impressed with myself! This deal was signed last year but then they setup a production line, work out all the bugs (been there for that) and then if there is sales they can schedule installation which can happen as soon as the customer signs off on test results (assuming they want one).
I'm glad others have an interest in talking out what might be a more accurate picture. We should not be silenced just because it might scare off someone. As I stated last week, to hide info. or thought for such a purpose is DISHONEST! My thoughts are to have other stocks to worry about on a daily basis and kick back on this one.
GDGI$
What " Ben has said ", is that something you have gotten from him directly? I might have missed that, but that is my hope as I was looking for that type of release the last time.
Steve, Somji, Mega, Newb... Most of you guys here have your heart in the right place. But have we not learned anything? We are posting our hopes and dreams as facts with a little " worst case scenario" to cover our behinds. Lets slow this thing down and let it work, it will all be good in the end. The company has not released anything to support " a string of PR's" except to say they are working on several deals. Only a couple have even admitted that they were expecting a lot more due to all the hype and yet here we go again. I still believe there will be more coming but talking it up ends up making big falls as it MAY not happen as quick as we all want.
SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE! GLTA ! GDGI$
If you are truly long all this is only to your advantage, so don't worry about all the hype!
Little prayer for the "DUTCH'S"
Thanks Madendave, nothing really new there but it seems to be on track. Sometimes nothing new also means nothing has happened to knock it off track. Depending on exactly what is in that report we may see a nice bump. I don't think the big money will come until they get closer to putting money in the bank. JMHO!
Thanks, that would be sweet! Please no hating on TB, his post make me smile/chuckle.
Dito on that DD, Thanks
Remember, its always entertaining, but now always the truth!
Hey Newb, here's to hoping your right and I'm totally wrong. I'll salute you with a toast if you are! GDGI!
Steve, if there is more to find about PHOTON your probably the one to do it. GLTU! GDGI!
We are on the same page. I didn't take it as derogatory. I thought it might not have been accurate, that's all. I too don't want to argue with people, you should hear me hollering at my screen, I sometimes wait for hours before I think that I can make a thoughtful response without causing a retaliatory response.
I'm sure that they are hoping for good things with PHOTON but my initial search gave me some concerns.
Sorry to everyone if I got too deep in thought about this one. I think I was more disappointed in myself than anyone else. I normally do pretty well Riding the Wave. I totally screwed this one and then when I saw more of that Rocket Ship talk I kinda lost it. I think it will come but possibly further down the road than some are thinking. Let's just call my post therapy! Now that's a LOL!
Perception is everything, however. When rumors of "big news coming" started, a lot of shareholders assumed this meant big sale. When the PR came out and there was no mention of a sale or profit in it, people perceived this as bad news and started panic-selling.
While I agree with everything in your 1st & 3rd paragraphs, even seeing the PR for what it is. I stated earlier that had it not been for the hype this would have given us a bump.
What I have been trying to get people to look at is that we ALL were looking for a big sale, totally believed it. I don't think we perceived it as bad news but were let down terribly. ( not necessarily GDGI's fault ) I also don't think it was necessarily panic selling but sheer disappointment and for some tired of waiting on real performance.
Moving forward I hope that some lessons are learned, I know I've learned a couple.
Be careful pushing for answers before they are ready to give them.
Temper enthusiasm with objectivity.
Be ready to hear apposing views without attacking the messenger.
Being careful not to silence criticism, it may give pause to newcomers but hiding that criticism is dishonest. I would be upset to find out the hard way that everyone knew IT but me.
I'll just keep out of it tomorrow and try to get over it by Monday
PS I haven't sold a share!
I have mixed feelings on that. I know that we want to see our investment grow and that by pointing out what we like about a stock does create buzz. However I didn't think that the sole purpose of these boards was to cheer-lead. Just like when Steve pointed out that when people were calling you a basher he said that he liked hearing the points that you were bring to light. I've heard a lot of spin put on this thing since yesterday and criticizing decent by saying its all in their heads. Now with all the pushing for those emails to Ben we (including me) took from them and blew them into more than they were. If we had not had those emails and just sat back until yesterday we would have taken the PR as positive and gotten a bump from it. We were ALL expecting real contracts with real numbers that we could see a payoff at a certain date. This was a restart for the company. It does not have DEFINITE sales with in this PR, its the chance to get sales. Some here are better at searching for news but I cannot find anywhere that these guys are even advertising this product. With that said I can't see how we will even see a dime from them this qtr.
I have mixed feelings on that. I know that we want to see our investment grow and that by pointing out what we like about a stock does create buzz. However I didn't think that the sole purpose of these boards was to cheer-lead. Just like when Steve pointed out that when people were calling you a basher he said that he liked hearing the points that you were bring to light. I've heard a lot of spin put on this thing since yesterday and criticizing decent by saying its all in their heads. Now with all the pushing for those emails to Ben we (including me) took from them and blew them into more than they were. If we had not had those emails and just sat back until yesterday we would have taken the PR as positive and gotten a bump from it. We were ALL expecting real contracts with real numbers that we could see a payoff at a certain date. This was a restart for the company. It does not have DEFINITE sales with in this PR, its the chance to get sales. Some here are better at searching for news but I cannot find anywhere that these guys are even advertising this product. With that said I can't see how we will even see a dime from them this qtr.
Tariffs are not part of shipping cost. They are a fee paid to the country of destination. You pay the shipper for shipping cost. Also as far as I am concerned its okay to have an open discussion about all of this. It isn't necessarily negativity to have an open discussion. It was right to point out that this does not produce the same profit as producing the product overseas and opening a office with local talent staffing it. This seems to have been done because the company could not make it happen on their own, its not manna from heaven.
The last L2 I saw there was 2.5 to 1.0. Sellers to buyers. Looks more like nobody is buying, just paint.
I thought not but didn't think about it being " Their Investor". That's probably better than any old lender.
I guess this the waiting game, however I do think that with the initial report and the BIG fact that they secured the property this thing has great potential. I don't think that this guy is throwing stuff at the wall and waiting to see what sticks.
Time will tell, just hope its not much more time. SLIO!
Feeling a little frustrated today, not thinking clearly, so I have to ask. Was that sarcasm? If not please elaborate. GDGI
I think Lolly's reply to me was spot on. I can only speak for me but I have never gotten in bed with a stock the way I did with this one and it clouded my judgement. I, and maybe others would agree, got all Lollypops and Flowers, pardon the pun Lolly. At .0036 I wish I had just bought in for 6 mil. I think he is the only one having a good day. If I hadn't taken so long to get my feet back under me today I would be buying back in for twice the number of shares with a little profit by the end of the week.
That last line was a rule that I did break this round. (take some off the table) However I did flip some from .0016 to .0033 and then bought back in at .0012. My average is .0019 and I should have taken some more profit at .008 but I fell in love as you say. My Big Error. Long term I'll recover. GDGI
Still believe in the idea of GDGI but wish I had never seen all those emails. They just built us up way too high, or we just built them up way too high. I'm not beyond doing a little flipping while a stock is brewing but I missed my chance at the first of the month while expecting a real juicy PR with actual numbers reporting actual contracts. I guess its time to turn away and look back again in 1-2 months when we see the 1st qtr. reports. Long Term Believer, Short Term Disappointed.
I'm afraid that the imagined elation from this morning is burning out. The hard facts, or lack there of, from the PR are setting in. I think we need to take a deep breath or more will jump ship. Despite people using terms like Major Business and Real Growth they actually didn't show us either. They showed us that they are setting a better base for when those things occur. Setting up an avenue for Asia to break out is not the same as putting money in the bank and that is a fact. Again, if your long as I am then prepare for more volatility until they show us a real contract or a real accounts receivable report. I still think this was positive but it wasn't proof of money that is destined for the coffers. GDGI!
No one here can call me a basher but, I still believe what I posted in the wee hours this morning. ( #13915 ) This sound like a good start but not the destination. All they really said is that we made some changes to our business model and we signed a deal with a new partner to do sales and manufacturing on the Asian Cont. It DID NOT announce ANY SPECIFIC sales/contracts. Nor did it announce any payment of past due accounts. I think this was a positive PR but it was NOT what we were waiting for. We could see it tomorrow but we don't have it now and no amount of hype will make it appear.
No offense to anyone, just call it like I see it. GLTA! GDGI!
Agreed. I think that no one here can say that " This is what we've been waiting for ". Hence, the phrase, through the dog a bone. I didn't want to come off as a smart a$$ but I couldn't help but wonder what did people expect from their emails. (not anyone specific) He was not going to give earth shattering news in response to a email. Nor was he going to give a hint and land in court for insider info. As it should be we will get the good stuff when the crust is golden brown and it is not going to fall apart when served!! GDGI$$ Quote me on that. If I'm wrong I'll be the happiest loser on record.
I am probably totally wrong, but here it goes with my neck way out there. I don't think this is all there is. I am thinking that recent pressure ie all those emails asking for info. before he was ready, has resulted in a PR that did not report all that there is to know but was designed to get us off his back or through us a bone. It did give REAL news, the Asia agreement, but not much in the way of hard numbers. The ones who have been the most impatient will probably sell later today and the TRUE BELIEVERS will do some more scooping and the rest will sit back and watch.
Feel free to beat me over the head with this post later or to later holler AMEN! GDGI$$$$$
What I am wondering is how anyone can imagine for a minute that the share price will drop tomorrow, with such a good report.
Well unfortunately it is called Interpretation. Some will read it one way and some will read it another. We will probably see a downward dip, how big and how long is up to Humans. Or, as Humans the enthusiastic might win the day.
Just buckle up and go with your own instincts. GDGI$
Dude, I haven't laughed that hard on any board in a while. Every time I got to the next DUH I lost my breath. When I read the post about " what does that have to do with SLIO " I immediately thought " what the he** have I been telling thinking " for about 2 seconds.
Then I thought no, I've read too much to have been wrong all this time.
I got targeted a couple of weeks ago for using the term " so long " in reference to those who were bailing out before the 43 report. Must have been a slow day to choose that one!
P.S. While reading your post I found that the voice in my head was the Water Boy! LMAO!
Good work Dutch. Will have to miss you guys today. If you leave the station today I've put my mannequin in the last row so I don't completely miss the ride. GLTA! GDGI$
Could have used your humor, oh I mean wisdom, earlier when I was falling asleep. Just playing!
Nice job to the both of ya! You never know when it will the last of the sub-penny shares! If I wasn't boxed up I'd be slipping a few here and there. Never know, if they take much longer I might get some cash freed up. GDGI
Was that you Steve with that last minute scoop?
I gotta find some money. If they take too much longer I'll be able to buy some more without causing much change to my average... and that's OK too. I can hear some of them squirming now. GDGI
Gotta hand it to ya, you guys are working hard not to let the board go completely cold today. This thing is practically in hibernation but all of this will forgotten soon! GDGI$$
A Dollar? Come on, I only paid .0012 and I would still have 75%
WEEEEEEEEE! GDGI!