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Maybe you should come to our website, for a nominal fee I'll take the hours it will require to make you an average trader.? Geeez Titan, promoting your pay site everywhere?? Bill Panetta called ERUC awhile back as a BB, and you want to keep charging people money. Would you tell me what other members on I-Hub are soliciting paying members to their pay site? You are the only 1 I know of. I have enjoyed our trading in the past, talking on your site, but now you want money to show people how to trade? Why don't you also tell them you are trading with $25K and how many daytrades you can do when these other guys can't. You charge more per month than I-Hub. Good luck Titan, but trying to get paying I-Hubers to your pay site is BS. And you know it.
Pay to be an average trader? LMAO. You my friend are getting way to ahead of yourself!
I'm glad you guys bashed this stock! That means it was a winner. I'm quite happy with my 100% profit. What stock are you guys going to bash next? I'll join you, especially if the chart looks like this one!
Thanks again!
Just how many shares do you think it is going to take to buy the company at a 5:1 ratio? Business 101 should help with a clue as to what he will have to increase the number to and all stock purchase programs discount the stock used as payment at a heavy discount in the event the pps goes down and 98% of you know this. Restricted? Of course it's restricted! You can't just decide to increase A/S and start dumping 50 million shares! If you could, imagine what that would do to the stock price!
Where's my dividend, I want to see if it is going to get dumped like others who own some to recoup some of their money. This is going to be one heck of a show!
Cpt. Jim, "woopy doo" thanks for the chuckle. "even if we go to 75 Million to buy them, so what ? Its still got more revenue than 99% of the damm Pinks and a real business." Listen Cap, I like the company, or have liked it more a few weeks ago, but I have not given up on it. There are many questions and statements that need to be made since Clayton started with teaser PR's. But don't go acting like you know it all Cap cause you don't know jack more than us. Yeah, I made a phone call. What have you done? It really doesn't matter what you do, just keep buying more stock!!!!
You own the most, you should call him. I already did, but you didn't listen did ya?
Looking interesting here ;)
The OS is now 21,056,924. She would not give me the float. I contacted the Delaware SOS and had to speak to an operator as their system was down. She gave me the AS numbers as 18,000,000 Common, 2,000,000 preferred. This is from the traveler's post. The 20 million was not put in place the day after the SecureViewNet PR because I had calledd Clayton several days later to ask how he was going to finance this: he said by raising the AS in the neighborhood of 75 million! 20 million would not cut it for a 5 for 1. I have done the math, I have talked to Clayton, I have told you guys. You have information, so use it, varify it yourself, of just wait until the PR comes and the stock will either go to the moon, go to zero, or trade flat. I'm leaning towards the 75 mill figure that Clayton gave me. We'll know soon enough.
Amazing, it's tough to dilute when there is no stock to dilute. You guys talk about a filing? Sure, they have to file: they have to file a change to the Articles of Incorporation to the state in which they are registered, they have to amend it. They don't need your vote to do this, what vote do you have? I think the answer is none. And the filing does not have to be made public to you. There are ways to get a copy, but it appears no one here is that interested. If no one is willing to call as I did and have a discussion with him, then nobody here can really be to concerned. When the A/S is increased, if it has not been already, I am confident that a PR will be issued. Instead of all the hypotheticals, call, maybe he's there. If you are worried about the long distance charge, most cell phones have weekends free! And how much is a fluctuation in the stock versus a phone call? If any of you guys care, you would do something instead of just now realizing that I informed you of some information I found out, but chose to ignore it because others on the board suggested that I should be ignored. With all the truth and as more comes out, those who believed me to be a basher will find out more truth about I-Hubers and the use of PM's to other investors. I'm just waiting on my dividends.
Ulysses Holding Corp.
P.O. Box 0044
Jacksonville, NY 14854
http://www.ulyssesholding.com
Phone: 607.387.7353 worked for me.
U2 Penny, I salute you for picking up stock at .02! Wish I had and I'd be as happy as you! ;) But I paid a lot more than you did and with all the hype, "Free Shares"! Low float(confirmed), and why did he reduce the AS from 490 to 10? I have no idea, but it's going to go up Penny, and I'll just leave it at that. Have you or Titan called Clayton and asked him point blank about the new, upcoming AS announcement? Yes or No??
And you base your info on ? B4 u go on, I am long this stock, just curious as to your 'vision' or "I have a dream"
I wish there was some news on the name change and cussip. That should be happening about now shouldn't it?
And what is UP with all the MIRROR TRADES!!!
you guys are too much, cndkid,cpt jim, and u thought i hadn't any clues. and u won't call clayton. i lready have, but now you complain. you guys are silly. lol. all u could think about was a divy, oh well, nothing like a little dd anda phne call to the ceo, whatever. u didn't like my dd, i guess it's not what u wanted to hear. good luck dtr
It's refreshing to finally see you guys talk about something more than "The Dividend"!! There is a company which is finally be talked about. And why does anotherboat need another Xanax, that's the correct spelling: I got some new glasses and looked at my prescription. LOL. But you guys talk about calling the TA every day to see if the A/S has been increased, why? The way it's gonna go down is Clayton is going to file to raise the A/S and just do it. He doesn't need anyone here's approval! Once he raises it to whatever the magic number is going to be, we will all be reading about it. It's not going to be publiced by the TA. So just sit back and wait for the increase, or better yet, why don't one of you guys that are buds with him ask and get a clue or estimate?
Would/could somebody explain the multitude of mirror trades? I know about the crossing that's going on,
This is one crazy trading stock. It's tough to tell what the MM's are doing! Is this company being featured or promo'd anywhere? Or just I-Hub? I saw earlier some others had it on radar, but this is getting ready for something big it seems. There are not that many people cashing in on profits at these levels,
Any ideas on why it tanked??
Closed: Washington's Birthday (Presidents' Day) February 18, 2008:: CaptainJim can have a few drinks and cdnkid10 can get caught up on his research. Have a nice weekend. And weatherdude, trading stocks for some of us is how we pay the bills. It doesn't matter if the stock is UHCR or GOOG, the people on the boards are traders, those who say nothing are investors. For all of the investors here, best of luck, or better yet, best use of available knowledge from wherever it comes from: let this place not be your main source!
For those of us who trade or "FLIP", this place is a great barometer. I flipped 3 times this week to profit and I'm sure Titan flipped a few positions too!
I hope you enjoyed the article 'cdnkid10', if you didn't read it all, then I suggest you save it if you want to understand the game you are trying to play.
Have a nice 3Day all.
Where do you get your information???? Read this, it talks about penny stocks and how just one firm raised money for many companies as an investment banker and with thousands of brokers to raise the money. Typically, each IPO was around $5 million dollars. I have no idea where you get your info, but I don't think you are even trying to learn anything because you know nothing about the history of penny stocks and how they were being created like in 87 when I was a broker. If you want to learn something and discover I'm telling the truth: read it. Otherwise, don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.
http://www.microcapmarkets.com/penny-stocks/prince-of-penny-stocks.html
You think things have changed? Duh! Where do you think these shells are coming from? Regardless, your knowledge is obviously pretty limited.
Ok Penny, I'm willing to play this out. I'm in. The TA is ungagged? Yeah, that's great, not many left. If Clayton decides to increase the A/S, which he will, then the TA can tell you that too. I've stated I like the company; and I'm in. I've been playing pennies since I was a penny broker for an Investment Banking firm in '87, so I do have an understanding of how this works. So we'll let it play out Penny and see what happens and see if my 2 cents is part of 'Comedy Central'.
Spinning off SecureViewNet would seem to make the most sense as far as the current business plan and to keep the lenders satisfied, so we'll see. And giving a divy from that spin-off, if it were to happen, would seem not only appropriate, but again as he has said he wants to increase share holder value. That's a good possiblity.
As far as how many shares the current owners of SecureViewNet are out and in the hands of all the owners, I would have to think that Clayton has a good idea or even better one now since he announced this 10 days ago. But considering this statement from that PR,
SecureNetView anticipates approximately $2,200,000 to $2,500,000 this year and with the technology involved, Ulysses Holding Corp. believes that the revenue can be doubled within the next year. Just how many shares of UHCR are going to have to be issued to pay for a company that has revenues like this!! Current price of UHCR is .06?
Revenues of 2.5 million divided by .05/share = 50,000,000 of UHCR. Do you think that Clayton is going to acquire this company that has 2.5 million in rev's and is expected to double to 5 million is going to be given to Clayton for 50 million shares at current market value of UHCR?? Not hardly!
Most deals, no, every deal discounts the stock as payment and at .01 would not be out of the ball park IMO. So I guess it all boils down to how much an asset that has rev's of $2,500,000 is currently worth. If it was worth 5 million, as a low ball example, it would take 500 million shares to buy it. So that would mean the private owners have 100 million of SecureViewNet stock.
The PR says they are buying the company, not an interest or percentage, but the whole thing. So I'll let someone else add to what they think fair value of a company w/ revenues of 2.5 million with the possibility of 5 million dollars next year is worth in dollar terms secured by future value of stock that they can't sell for 1 year.
What??? How much do you think SecureViewNet will cost? My first question was how he was going to pay for it! He gave me an answer: that's all I needed and I already told you what the answer was. And yeah, I don't have a problem with them buying money making assets, BUT, the providers of that 20 Million dollar LOC might not like deviations in the business plan to which they are funding. I'd hate to see that LOC get in jeapordy, but I'm sure that Clayton, his financial advisors, and the source of the 20 million will be discussing that.
Yes, for the optical stores. As far as I know, all that money is per the business plan which is expanding and opening new stores. Having a line of credit for their biz plan is fantastic! I just don't like the idea of buying or acquiring an interest in another company for stock ( 5 for 1 ) when they don't have any. I am concerned about how much the A/S will go up. Why drop it and talk about it going to a dollar which would be easy at 10 Million, but it's going to be alot more difficult to get there with the A/S increasing. I like this company, and I'm sure we will get more information soon.
Anybody have any thoughts about this? If not, then I've expressed what I think these boards are good for.
What's up with MM's falling off the Bid???
He's very excited about the deal, as am I. I have known about KinderCare since about 1999 and parents love seeing their kids in school! It was a great idea and obviously it has many more applications. I'm not exactly sure this private company wants to be 'bought out' or merged into UHCR since as Clayton says, it's not in line with the business plan of optical stores. But, maybe someone can speculate that deal. What I do know from my conversation with Clayton which is or was not inside information, but when you look at SecureViewNet and what they could do with maybe better management?? , is expand and UHCR will collect fees from all of the new customers. Regardless, it will bring cash or should into UHCR's coffers. But the 10 Mill current A/S will have to change and will. Unless someone thinks of another solution of financing. I don't think these guys can go to a bank and get a letter of credit for a million bucks, so it has to be stock.
More mirror trades today!
Chart sure looks sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Thanks! That is going to change the playing field!
Today is the end of companys being able to print shares for the hell of it and dump according to the new SEC Rule. Anybody have a copy of it? My past 2 posts are to generate talk about the company and Titan I 'm confident you have spoken w/ Clayton, your pals with him and I just can't believe noone wonders how the new company will be paid for. At the present time, there is no stock to buy it and Clayton said it is a structured 5 for 1 deal consisting of UHCR restricted stock. Since we have zero stock, then there is only one way I know of to do the deal and that is to raise the A/S. If there is another way I'd love to hear it. And how much will the A/S have to be increased? I already mentioned 75 million and I didn't pull that number out of my hat. He volunteered that information to me. The PR is forthcoming, it is to be restricted, but I don't understand why reduce from 490 down to 10 back to 75+ million. Either this is a topic of interest, or maybe here it's not. But the divy is so worn out I'll take it if I get it. I'll buy more UHCR when the chart says so.
People ask questions about the dividend and the players here, ie you, Titan, Penny_TA, and to an extent anotherboat, know about the company. These boards supposedly are for sharing info, not a platform for infomercials.
Enough w/ the dividend. People who buy stock because of a dividend based on future events need to re-evaluate. People and the only ones here should concern themselves with what this company is doing and the potential that we see. If it wasn't for 2 people that I have held in respect, Penny_TA and Titan, I would have never become involved. I tell it like I see it and nobody wants to hear it. Titan, I see you went as far as to delete me from your e-mail alerts? I must have hit a nerve which is unfortunate because I had some respect for you and your principals; but have it your way.
Penny stocks are for those who know how to play them and can afford to lose. If you are looking for guidance, I suggest if someone suggests as I have to call the CEO and ask him a question or 2 because he is a guy that is available that you do so. If you don't do your own DD, then if you lose your money you will know why. If members of a board do not want to talk about a substantial event like acquiring SecureViewNet, then you better ask why. Or better yet, ask Clayton.
Titan, since you know Clayton, maybe he'll share with you about the transaction with SecureNetView. He did with me, but it seems nobody on this board cares: so fine. I'm confident you have already talked to him about it, but you don't want to discuss it here; nobody has talked about it. I wonder why.
I think that anyone considering buying this stock deserves more information than a confusing as hell discussion on a dividend. This is a company that is building brick and mortar operations, but nobody will tell the newbies about this acquisition. If anyone wants to get information about how the deal will work, call Clayton Young: (607) 272-7775
It's amazing how so many traders I had thought highly of just blow this topic off. I've got my answers, but not one person wanted to hear it from me. I'll be interested to see if any mod tells this board anything that was available over a week ago.
Has anyone been able to get any today at the bid? I was on the bid multiple times and never even got a partial, so I don't know who is getting any shares unless you go to the ask?!
I'd say it's BREAKOUT time! Now people are taking notice and feeling more at ease! It's looking very playable now! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Damn it's hard to get filled! I was at .004 and everytime they hit I should have got it! But the only bidding MM was ETRADE, and Scottrade uses NITE, AUTO, not ETRD!! What gives???
hope so!
Did you get filled @ .0037?
Gotta love it! Shareholder approval not required for Al, who IS still around to shoot for 10 BILLION shares. LOL. I thought the cap was 5 Billion, but he's greedy. Now look for the R/S. What a slimy wanker of a person to screw so many people.
2 @ .0035, so nope.
They are NOT showing my bid....hmmmmmmmmmmm
Good to see 6 MM's on the Bid now, vs 3 yesterday!