Well, now I understand....this has been an expensive lesson for me, but not the first.....

With all your experience in, and knowledge of such situations, why did you get involved with UOIP? If I knew then what I know now, I would have put my $$ into something else....

This stands out to me:

"5. Accordingly, under Section of the , CBV is entitled to payment of

ChanBond has indicated that no payment will be made"


I read this as an outright refusal by Carter to perform as required - which seems pretty much cut and dried legally - he's going to lose. But then, I'm not an attorney.

Many thanks for posting - wow - it would be really interesting to see what was redacted.....will that ever become available?

Thanks for posting that. I don't really know how to read it or the significance of it, whether she has some sort of proof of the interaction with Raskin. It does seem significant.

Yes, anything on Pacer for both suits. Interesting that they both land the same day.

In Rome, do as the Romans do......... I lived a very rural part of the state and sometimes I was amazed at the food I was served in a very good way, sometimes not. They served up some awesome pork tenderloin sandwiches and in general, cafe food was very good if I ordered specials. Perhaps only expect good CA omelets in CA.....I used to get fantastic Mexican food when I lived in E. TX.....not out here. Or IA. Or WI.

Ha. Could be IA but usually it's deer that you hit there....most likely SD. I've lived in both.

I did my 22 yrs teaching marketing in NE IA, moved out here after retiring.

Morning, AJ.....from the Olympic Peninsula.

What manner of social engineering do you have in mind?

They did? Do you know for sure? Just curious.

What manner of social engineering do you have in mind?

Agree 100%.

Does anyone know how the various lawsuits affect one another? Is everything on hold until all suits are settled?

No kidding.

Agree on both points.

While I hope this doesn't happen, I'm afraid you may be right. What a mess. Like a circular firing squad. Time for everyone to cooperate and draw this to a close.

The Chanbond lawyers or their lawyers? What a mess. "Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"

No kidding - and all self-imposed.

Good one. Polite and charming. Ted Bundy was polite and charming. And a serial killer.

I wondered if the new development would help you lose your warm and fuzzies for Carter. Looks like it has.

Thanks for the information....

If it was $800 million the attorneys could have added on their costs, maybe....I still think that's low for the amount of $$ that was made from the technology.

The attorneys working on contingency had/have a vested interest in higher, not lower settlement amounts. Seems they would have a say in negotiations and they would temper any urge for Billy to fold too low.

I believe that if Billy's attorneys were defending him against fraudulent management of UOIP they wouldn't (of course) need to inform the court if they knew he was guilty....their job is to get him off or mitigate his punishment. If, though, in the course of litigating the patent case for UOIP they became aware of information that implied Billy's nefarious conduct - from unofficial sources - they could later claim ignorance. Or surprise. Pretty much the same thing as plausible deniability. WHAT? Billy Carter? Defrauding common shareholders???????? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO KNEW??????????????????????

The lawyers likely knew, unofficially, what Billy is and what he was up to - but since they didn't officially know, they have plausible deniability. One would think that an attorney, being an officer of the court, would be ethically and legally obligated to inform the court of malfeasance they became aware of - wouldn't they? Otherwise, wouldn't they be an accessory after the fact?

Why carry water for a lowball offer from Billy? I really don't understand your posts recently.

Interesting question.

Have they gotten paid yet, ZW?

May be informative to see what they know now? Or, I suppose we could just call Billy.... ;-0

Hi AJ - have you asked any of the inventors what's currently going on?

Case closed. Good job!

Deciding on when to take SS is easy - take the $$ ASAP and run. Impossible to know how long one will live, no way to "crunch" that number, that's the fly in the typical financial advisor's model whether they charge $99 or $999. My health was already iffy when I retired and started SS and it got worse, really glad I did what I did. All the advisors that counsel waiting to take it are assuming near-perfect health. They are number crunchers, not seers. In theory, the longer one waits the higher the payout and that's easy to calculate but.......sh*t happens. Do the sure thing, don't wait. IMHO.

Not funny at all, but it should be instructive to anyone that will be eligible for SS in the future. The common advice is to wait as long as possible to start taking SS so that your monthly payments will be as high as possible. IMHO, that only makes sense if a person is still working full-time and earning a considerable income and just doesn't want to wind down. Best to start SS ASAP because your health and the future is uncertain gets more so as one ages.

My guess is a delay of some sort.

Conveniently located diagonally across the street from the Elon University School of Law........wonder what body accredits EUSL? Maybe they took Billy's case on as a student project? Internship?

Or, like Wimpy and his requests for credit for burgers in Popeye comics, he's going to pay them in the future with expected UOIP income in exchange for legal services in the present....

Amen to that. When someone shows you (repeatedly) who and what they are, best believe them.

Or something pretty close to it.