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ok, someone, instead of telling me what the pattents cant do,,.. what do they do? what r the functions and applications.. please pop,,.. you know what they arnt for,. what are they for,. what do they do,.what do they cover? anyone.
thats exactly it N E O M! even popteck said that indirect would be more commonly accepted in b2b applications. plus a brand/neom offering indirect, provides security, versus a direct qr code, hence the need for the neosphere!. a direct could take you to a trojan horse and you wouldnt know it till then!
hinchback are you not paying attention?
The down low of the bid and ask!
when buying is happening at the bid. that means that no one is willing to buy shares for more. so if you want to sell.. you must adjust your ask,.. by dropping it to the bid,.. hence the bid pushes down further. have buying at the ask,.. the bids go up to meet the higher price.. cause people are mostly in for the stock to go up. You can have strong buying pressure on a downward trend. this is when the market makers have to work... as you see with NEOM right now.
8k,.. just lm allowing the kids to take from the cookie jar through scrupulous financing with ya
This thing will head up soon. I think we are building for a better run. but thats just a guess
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Get some sleep. the Dr. was the cause of the run..
Todays action seems very bullish in for the near term. Actually maybe the last few even.
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rw,
remember that the bus. model is x number of clicks free then its a payper click. IMO, the key to this is consumer eduction regarding using the phone to scan.. and the number of smart phones coming to market within the next year..
this will explode. Ijsut wihs they would get rid of YA!
Let it be said that the dilution is a necessary evil. When I say that, it is under the stipulation of "all things being equal." That said, YA finances, NEOM continues to hire and give LM more money.
I am put off by the BOD and LM. Their actions are not within the law at this point. They do have an obligation to the common shareholder. The fact they cant find other money, in this market, amazes me. But why bite the hand that feeds ya, right LM? yada yada.. makes me f'n mad!
If there were no demand for this stock, we would be at .005 all ready. shares are being traded. this will play out soon enough.. but this bottom beating is
I think I called it! Where was the run? I personally didnt want it to break the .0123 level. But thats me?
Since NEOM 048 patent is tied to the fact that two servers would have to be used.. and as pop said.. is really only good for Business to Business... well that's a good thing. Now you start talking about security.. so your not going directly to some virus or spy whatever... that's just my opinion. I dont know about anyone around here... but PISS ON THE B2B side of bar codes?????
This trading will go on. But, even though there are this many shares out there... I think the float is shrinking. Who else is actually watching the trading today? or the last few.
The law firm will produce lic. rev. by the third Q.
The lawsuits, will be settled out of court and sooner than most expect. What law firm does our IP infringe have?
honestly. take your profits and try to pick the bottom. I think we are close. I think the time is sooner than most really think.
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Buys at the bid. look at that trading. just hold, just wait!
at their word.? for consideration on the reality of the company, it is the right thing to do pops.
Bottom line, something is going on. I hope its the death of YA in some form or fashion.
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this is just like a couple days ago. Yesterday the volume was early. this is going to go on for a little while. what your seeing is accumulation. it is slow and methodical now.
pclick.. could you explain what those are to me.. I'm not smart, sure bet my phone aint
Oh yea, us investors hanging out on IHUB keep throwin more money at this thing just to keep it up. Nice for you to check in on us through all these years. Appreciate all your posts. better watch out cause there aint no shares forsale anymore might want to make sure you have your sale order in.
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Gonna be a blood bath today!
ugh!
on the YA ranch no pony gets to run!
i am not supper tech savy.. in fact, I like to think of online,.. as dancing with trout on my 5wt fly rod as I am casting giant salmon flies to greedy trout on rock creek.. thats my online tech experiance ;)
As a reply regarding security, there will be a mojor difference between indirect and direct coding.
also, POP, JP,KRay dmaze and a few of the others. that website level up or one level up or whatever it was where they were doing the secured credit card payment with the qr codes, first, what kind of coding is that indirect or direct? and if so. from the last two patents. seems to make me think that on some level there is some infringement on the technology base of NEOM?
Pop, Jp, might not agree with how you guys say some stuff, but i do agree on certain aspects. We need a YA killer, someone to take that out. News of that would blow this stock to levels few could fathom. However, i think there are positives that out weigh the negatives. I was thinking that they were over the 5 billion based on this.. but i dont do what you guys do.
One of two things really need to happen. YA gone! that would be number one. number 2 the law firm announcing lucrative lic. deals.
LM is over paid. cant bite the hand that feeds ya!
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the bids higher than the ask. ?
Because he is finally listening to me!
just wanted to add this...
i think this will be an area we will get lic rev from.
https://www.thelevelup.com/?mobile_view=0
This huge! great find Rw. now we need paypal and ebay with redlaser to do this and then they all need to announce the lic. of our IP. big news
I was the first to inform this board of dilution when it went from 215 million to the 435 million. It seems to double right now every quarter. With that being said, i wish i would of put my guess in at 850 to 900 million s/o. oh well.
As for dilution, How does this work? NEOM has no money to cover operations, they are not self sufficient. They have to finance themselves to go forward. Without the prospect of rev. they will and can only rely on diluting the share holders. So don't act surprised that it is happening. Be thankful in some regards because without it, they would shut down! then where would you be.
I will argue, That LM and the BODs really need to find fin. to carry them forward from someone else other than YA. I would like to see the law firm take over the fin. with out so much YA vulture type practices. One this would show that the law firm believes in the future of the lic. agreements going forward. It actually puts them into the white hot sector of IP lic. and technology. I think the patents are more significant than what some others here believe.
Now, looking at who is buying shares, those who have taken a position, things look pretty positive. We all know that this should have dropped by half after that kind of dilution was announced. I said the same damn thing when it went from 200 to the 400 million mark.. and it did eventually reduce itself back down to the previous market cap. I hope this doesnt do that again. we will be looking at .009 to .012 to be the bottom.
I believe the fair value for this company is around 500 million. I think there are forces at work that will only reveal themselves later. I look at the current reversal point to be at .015-.017. But what do I know? Right?
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"As an increasing number of codes enter the marketplace, users of smartphones are beginning to become familiar with them, recognize what they are, .....
and actually use their mobile devices to scan them. "
This is why I think we need the phones co. to sign lic. deal. I think this is where P. M. comes into play. this should be exciting to see unfold over the next six months!
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this is exactly why I think we should be seeing some sort of deal with paypal and redlaser. You can bet your @$$ that ebay is not having them down load the NEO reader.
At the University I attend the strongly support redlaser and push qr codes. all the talk amongst a select few prefessors all the rage is qr codes and where the marketing dollars are going go.
The one negative aspect that severly needs addressing is YA and the second thing would be sustainable rev.
anyways, regardless, I feel that the more appropriate market cap would be around 400- 500- million. I cant wait for august!
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Normally I would consider the addition of a sales guy for a certain area just "normal fluff" PR for this co. with the late 10k. However, with the debt deadline looming, it does signal that this event is not a worry. However, how we go forward is still a worry. I for one would rather see revenues drive us forward leaving YA behind or find someone else that does not finance this particular way. there are good Fin. deals out there if they shop.
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diarch
I know, current market valuation is around 10 million. hands down a joke. YA does have a sweet deal for themselves. but as I look at it, it is set up in a way that they can be taken out. So honestly, a few deals where we need no financing the the OS going up at higher price pershare.. sooner they are gone.
I like to see this stock go up.. going to .05 was fun. i play a small amount but nothing like alot of you. for me, I care what this is at 9-12 months out. I think we are going to see change, it will be fast and it will be good. However, right now, business is being done, its all in the back ground.
I would like to see phone companies start to sign lic. agreements with NEOM
NEOM has a market cap of around $10,000,000. Am i the only one that thinks this is a joke.
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Facebook paid an average of 33 $ per subscriber/user for insta gram.
i have stated that bare bones, i believe that the valuation for NEOM is around 400 Million.
However, if NEOM got paid 33 dollars for every downloaded NEOM Reader, 18,000,000 we would have a valuation of 594,000,000. in 09 rumored MSFT was lookin to buy NEOM for 150 million.
Now look at what the valuation might be based on what the marketing dollars can do by using QR codes.
This is just a matter of time folks.
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Also, dont forget, what makes putting a value on NEOM really tough. 1. QR codes are hot and growing. tough to put a valuation on it. 2. Intelctual property and obtaining patents is another hot aspect in the tech industry.
up up up up
I read this last patent, and all I can think is, when are we going to see the phone companies start inkin down with NEOM!
big gun is not an AK that is just a .30 cal rifle
Big boy .50 bmg 750 grain round. knock down power!
what would be nice is to see a lic deal with a big fish like redlaser. solidifying NEOM tech , IP!
this is exactly what i thought the law firm was brought on board for. Plus to handle all the neg. of lic. of the tech.
Going along as I have spoke about this.
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http://visitmt.com/history/montana_the_magazine_of_western_history/montanavigilantes1.htm
i've seen this a million times before, to much stock is being put into an upcoming doc. This doc, when released, will cause the stock to drop. Not because of whats in it, but because people thought more would be in it!
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how can YA have the money they lend be collateralized with these convertable preferred and, if they are payed back still own? the patents. It doesnt makes since pops?
10 K. POPTECH you gonna actually answer me? YES or NO??
The 10k will show all the things that have already happened with nothing more to show beyond dec. 31 of 2011. What in the PHQ is the 10k gonna show. POPTECH, is the form we are waiting on, not the 10Q? for the first quarter of this year? which would have all the relevant info for jan feb and march.. ?
AM I right?
waiting for the 10k and expecting info, is going to let you all down. your fooling yourselves,.. who in the hell started posting the 10k ship? eh?
Think think think think think people..
Your not wait for the 10k... period. it will have nothing regarding the first quearter of this year? how will the annual report tell share holders as to what happen in the first quarter of the next year.. when that quarter just finished a few days ago?
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Ok, this thing with YA and the death spiral financing that they provide is criminal.. but the politicians need their hedge funds now more then ever since they cant participate in insider buying and selling of which they were privy to in the past.
Dilution? What the heck is that. That is, whey your shares loose value because more shares are issued into the market.
I think NEOM really needs to find someone else to finance them. I think that this is whats going on right now. I think a transfer of shares have taken place. The 10q for march 31st will tell the beginning part of this story.
Where would NEOM be if YA never provided the cash to continue operating? Dilution.... what about no value because they disappeared in to BK land! Where would you be then. Also stock issued from within the company are also used to negotiate deals. which the cookies at NEOM have only figured out how to do as they burn their own asses with something that could provide so much more. LM does not deserve the wage she makes, especially with not skin in the game. I would like to see more insiders board members and employees throw down and get involved! what would that do to the stock if they all started doing that right now
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there is a connection between ebay, paypal and redlaser. somehow, but what? this has been talked about very little. every time its brought up, POP jumps in and says its not possible cause ebay cant sub lic. Either way, there is a connection, and maybe thats why Global Ip is involved on the legal side. But hold on, I was told by someone they are here to sell the patents? Really?
DRSS is a darn surprise to all of us. however it has caused that ugly beast called YA to rear its head.. damn it dilution? really,.. it kept the pulse to this little turd of a company for the last few years. For that i am glad I have only had skin in the game since this august. But found NEOM back in 03. With the Dr. SS buying shares on the Open market also provided us shareholders that real interest in the technology is there.
I keep reading about NFC and really think that might have its place. But that is going to be a smaller and trickier market to fully develop versus QR codes.
So In summary, There is demand for the IP, a big share holder on board that has his own agenda. It shows some real postive strength, but without those other ? marks being answered, it will move side ways for a bit.
now i am just rambling....
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Pop, just like someone else posted. I doubt the 10k is gonna give anyone the info they need. that ended dec 31st of 2011. the next 10Q which would cover Q1 for the firm ended on march 31st. That is the form that would have an update for this past Quarter
So much Bull ship regarding why the 10k will be late. It is not that they are updating info because of what has just happened. It is because we are on our thrid CFO while in the process of a move... ect ect ect. they dont have there shit together to get it done on time. But they are trying to be forth right by filing to file late.
There will be a huge sell off after the 10k. if there is news before the 10k I would sell the minute it is released! Just My Opinion?
Right POPS? 10Q not the 10K?
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Common Cents Warren Buffet got approval to buy shares on the open market and not file until the purchase was made. With the given co. who he is, the change in market value could screw up a favorable position that he was trying to take.
YA is a monster which needs to be delt with quickly.
WTF is global IP doing.. I think they are acquiring shares also. just a hunch.
LM, Petter M noone dares make a comment. does no one lic. the technology even the investor himself?
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