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GOINGUP11, perhaps reading through this material will be helpful in understanding my point
http://wings.buffalo.edu/academic/department/law/sba/outlines/corporations.htm
speaking of "perplexing"...
i have seen posted over and over and over how BKMP supposedly owns 20% of TFN, yet in their own PR of jan 17 titled "Blackout Media Clarification of Ownership" they state "...Blackout Media owns 20% of Blackout Communications, a private Canadian company who in turn owns The Fight Network..."
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Ciw%5C2006%5C01%5C17....
correct me if i am wrong, but isnt it possible that just because BKMP owns 20% of blackout communications, the "arrangement" with TFN might be completely different?
it might be helpful if they would file an 8K to clarify their clarification...
a few other tidbits that may be helpful:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9795744
re: "...I do not however, know your agenda here, as it is truly perplexing..."
perhaps you can ask one of the stalwart longs, as they seem to not only know what i do, but also why and when
truly amazing aint it?
GOINGUP11, interesting...
...at the same time i understand some individuals post fabricated emails, phone conversations and other "rumors" in an effort to boost/support SP while they unload their shares
would you consider that "unethical" as well?...or is that acceptable?
nice action today with this "gem"...
...but my quote service must not be working properly as it shows BKMP down 20%????
but how can that be given all the "great news" and "no dilution"?
could it have anything to do with the rumor posted by TAKI regarding "...share consolidation will becoming in the not too distant future..."?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9811126
and might individuals be concerned about a repeat of the previous 1 for 10,000 "share consolidation"?
it has after all been almost a full year since that RS, and given SP is in the cellar, a common tactic employeed by companies is a RS so that the stock becomes "more attractive" to institutional investors
...quite the conundrum
re: "...Hope you are not anyones Boss..."
TAKI, i didnt say it...YOU are the one that posted the "rumor"
and yes, "share consolidation" = RS
re: "...the same source says a share consolidation will becoming in the not too distant future..."
doesnt "share consolidation" mean RS?
at what ratio might it be this time?
1 for 10,000 like the last one?
OT: J-Rhino, i can only address from the time i came onto the board
OT: netramwoofer, i believe those terminologies may have come from steroidal induced hallucinations
jonah_dexx, really?...
so a so-called basher questioning dilution [for example], and another poster representing his post as the words/statements of a companys CEO are the same level of "BS"?
YIKES!...good luck with that evaluation
netramwoofer, i believe you are incorrect on 2 accounts
1. its 20%
2. the 20% is of blackout communications, NOT directly of TFN
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/news.jsp?url=fis_story.asp%3Ftextpath%3DCOMTEX%5Ciw%5C2006%5C01%5C17....
kilerb, congratulations on repeating the same thing you said in the post i responded to...my answer is the same...
"... you may want to check the emotions and assumptions, as both very often lead to erroneous conclusions and decisions..."
and your follow up post confirms such
mimurray, really?, perhaps you can show me the post you are referring to, because all i saw was the post i responded to...and it did NOT state what you just posted
OT: mimurray, at the same time i find it "curious"
that the few stock boards we have/had in common, while you were "enthusiastic" and i may have been critical of the goings-on, there was one commonality...SP went south
re: "...A BS pump post is just as bad as a BS bash post but neither have much affect once the real story comes out..."
there is one GLARING difference...
its one thing if a so-called "basher" makes a BS post, its a whole 'nother thing if one posts a supposed email from a company CEO
its "unfortunate" that you and others seem to fail to recognize the difference
GOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
kilerb, i say "bully for you!"...
however you may want to check the emotions and assumptions, as both very often lead to erroneous conclusions and decisions
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP
coloradotransplant, wow!, given all those intense duties
it appears DK may have been under paid
after all, it may have taken a full day to satisfy all those "demands" on him as outlined
i mean look at the "detail" on point 1 alone:
2.1.1 Redesign corporate materials by producing a master digital file
onto a full size (650MB) CD Rom with color processing, a DVD/CD black
packaging, insertion of outside wrap with CD and inside booklet (Approx. 5
3/8" x 7.5" when closed), DVD box inserts (paper stock: gloss white), ink
color processing (one sided), binding: trim to size (outside insert 10-7/8"
X 7-1/4" and inside insert 5" X 7-1/4").
...is it even possible to make a simple task sound more complex?
no wonder his current compensation package rivals that of officers from multi million $ revenue producing companies
i say give him a raise
kilerb, it appears you are starting to get the bigger picture here
one alias/long states they received an email from winick containing all types of particulars that longs would love to hear...and it is applauded
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9770579
yet another honest long seeking to confirm the above receives an email from winick that essentially states he never stated such...and it is quietly swept under the carpet
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9797028
so do you think it might be possible that lies, deceit and rope-a-dope tactics are being employed by some?
meanwhile the post deletions without cause continue...and the posts that contain blatant TOS violations remain
...and it getting worse by the day
what better way to compliment your TFN t-shirt?...
re: "...And at least the guys pumping...are posting e mails from Sandy..."
youre joking, right?
supposed emails and phone conversations cannot be taken as anything more than hearsay for more than one reason
1. as i posted earlier
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9789818
2. how many emails and phone conversations from "sandy" would you like me to post that contain anything i care to include?
btw: hows this little tidbit, where winick claimed the float was 180M, lol!...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=8063410
...and subsequent to the date of this post SP declined some 90%
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re: "...The bashers just say, This is being diluted, and thats it..."
perhaps some so-called "bashers" do, but why would that be?
could it be because confirming share structure is next to impossible because the TA wont respond to requests?
could it be because the only "official" documentation was dated as of sept 30 '05?
could it be because winick stocks...and certainly this "gem"...have a history of doing just that?
but besides the possible "dilution factor"...
not one 8K has been filed through all the events that have transpired since the disposition of kachina/terrablock and the transition to BKMP/TFN...the common SH has essentially been flying completely blind/on faith...perhaps you and others feel comfortable "investing" long with a wish and a prayer...i assure you, many others justifiably do not
and about the SNYY/AMER divi...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?Message_id=8898600&txt2find=fcdh
and remember "market advisors" december so-called independent report [leading up to divi date] with an intermediate price target of $5.50?...what is current SP?, .10...a 90%+ decline
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=103357
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and what about that "working interest" that BKMP has with blackout communications?...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?Message_id=9176002&txt2find=fcdh
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so is it just about the "suspected" massive dilution or much, much more?
...stay tuned, lol
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
the way i see the TA is...
with a bullish measured move and rising wedge forming an ascending triangle went to a double top/head and shoulders [along the way there was bullish engulfing, a hammer, an inverted hammer, morning star, bullish harami and bullish abandoned baby], then there was a bump and run reversal going into a descending triangle/falling wedge leading into a rounding bottom, bouncing off a triple bottom into a head and shoulders bottom [along the way we had dark cloud cover, with evening and shooting stars, bearish engulfing, harami and abandoned baby]
we had validations of upward trend and downward trend lines, we passed through supports and resistences, while along the way candles formed of every kind...marubozu, spinning top, doji [long legged, dragonfly, gravestone], hammer/hanging man, inverted hammer/shooting star, white and black
we had common gaps, breakaway gaps, runaway gaps...and exhaustion gaps
conclusion
charts dont mean a freaking thing
through all the supposed TA i have seen espoused, results have been essentially 50/50...or, flip a coin and you will get the same degree of accuracy
[but it all sounds pretty nifty]
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BKMP! ;)
OT: anyone see the slam-dunk contest yesterday?
HOLY COW!
80 degrees and sunny in beautiful s fla :)
...later
RU, did you forget to add "IMO" in your last post?
"...with the right momo/pump....it will run and run decently..."
i am betting it will. eom.
RU, may i suggest you read my posts thoroughly before asking questions or responding in a manner that doesnt apply to what i stated?
Eagle1_x, what would be the source of revenues?
the company has been acquiring companies with a combination of stock and cash
TFN is essentially giving their programing away until march/april[?]
even the so-called "sale" of terrablock and kachina was for stock in suncrest/amerossi, which in turn was "given away" in the form of a so-called dividend
it appears there is an extraordinary amount in the out box...and little-to-nothing in the in box
NICE "REPORT"!, too bad its ALL hear-say...
imo winick better be a bit more "prudent" in what he states, although i am confident he knows it would be propagated on this and other boards
and why not...its not in an "official" PR so he cant be held accountable for the statements, but at the same time he can give SHs what they want to hear...regardless if it is factual or not
"...blow your socks off..."????, lol
perhaps someone can translate in real terms exactly what that means to the common SH
"...Give it about 45 days..."???, yowzer!
okey-dokey, lets look at the past 30 days for trend
given that the TA is by "default" essentially gagged, and that the only "official" mention of OS was the financial report dated 09/30/05, almost 1/2 year ago!, who knows what it will be in 45 days
[note: the jan 9 PR mentioned "capital structure has not changed", which refers to AS not OS]
and what about...?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?Message_id=9652516&txt2find=jan
if it aint in a PR, anyone doing serious DD wouldnt even let hear-say statements get to the first level of investigation, and as we all have hopefully learned, even in a PR any companys statements need to be quantified
i dont think you need me to tell you that all plays have to be evaluated on an individual basis as each promotion has varying factors
i havent followed GWGO for some time, but i do recall an associate asking my op about it when it was trading @ .0007 X .0009
and while i dont normally give "guidance", in this instance i suggested she not get involved [at that time, around oct/nov], i took a second look at it in december, but still decided to walk away from it
so now they have 100B AS?, lol!
and according to last years K, axtell [CEO] owns 0 shares
how do they conduct business?
10/20/05 8K
"The financial statements filed for the Acquired Companies in the Form 8-K's dated April 1, 2004 and September 15, 2004 improperly accounted for the financial status of the Acquired Companies and should not be relied upon. The Acquired Companies were development stage mining companies whose sole asset consisted of mining rights. The Acquired Companies had no tangible assets, liabilities, or operations; therefore, the entire purchase price consisting of common stock, has been expensed."
...sounds like fraud to me
10/25/05 8K, 7B shares down the drain
"Golden Eagle has no proven reserves at this time. In addition, Golden Eagle had no tangible liabilities or operations and their sole asset consists of mining rights. Based upon same, no financial statements will be filed for Golden Eagle since the entire purchase price consists of common stock will be expensed."
11/3/05 another 7B shares
"Copperstone has no proven reserves at this time. In addition, Copperstone has no tangible liabilities or operations and their sole asset consists of mining rights. Based upon same, no financial statements will be filed for Copperstone since the entire purchase price consists of common stock will be expensed."
11/9/05 another 7B shares
"Ambassador has no proven reserves at this time. In addition, Ambassador has no tangible liabilities or operations and their sole asset consists of mining rights. Based upon same, no financial statements will be filed for Ambassador since the entire purchase price consists of common stock will be expensed."
GOOD LORD!
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btw, if you werent aware, st james capital [SJCH] is run by the same guy [mike garrow] that "owns" the fight network aka BKMP
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so where does it leave things?
who the heck knows, lol
but the impending symbol/name change may have an impact, and
@ .0001 X .0002 i would consider a position @ .0001
then its all up to greed and fear
would 100% be "enough" if one were able to flip it @ .0002?...200% "enough"?, 300%....and so on
everyone has there own risk/tolerance levels, and that is and should be a personal decision
GLTA
re: "...Since January TFN has gotten more hits on their website..."
do you think it might have something to do with "stalwart longs" checking it a dozen times a day for any scrap of news that could be promoted?
did i say that? eom.
OT: amrca, i am "confused" by your direct response
Posted by: amrca
In reply to: None Date:2/9/2006 4:43:29 PM
Post #of 38300
is maninfla a shareholder here..(I have him on ignore)...first time we are on the same side..cool.
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is there any other statement youd like to "revise"?
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OT: btw, to address an earlier debate regarding the accuracy of info dispensed by knobias
as an example, for a recent play of mine, what do they list?
Authorized Shares: -2
Source: ( )
Outstanding Shares: 400,000,000
Source: Other ( 03/17/2005 )
http://www.knobias.com/individual/public/quote.htm
...pretty nifty trick dont ya think?
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Rasica, "interesting"...
the first link you provided was to an individuals specOlations
the second link was to a form letter sent by the SEC
and the third link is as old as the hills and one could substitute "pumper/shill" for "basher" and have a mirror so-called "handbook"
when one calls one of the hundreds of companys whose TA's give out share info freely, do you see them jumping through hoops "conforming to the laws and regulations of disclosure"?
sample discussion?:
"good afternoon, acme transfer agent"
"good day, may i please have the current shares outstanding for bigalow widgets"
"let me check that for you...ok, i have it, as of feb 17, there were 1,457,839 shares outstanding of bigalow"
"ok, thanks, have a good day"
youre right, it doesnt take 15 minutes...more like 5 or 10
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OT: uwlungman, regardless of anthony@pacific's involvement
"...The former CEO of eConnect pleaded guilty today to federal securities fraud charges for orchestrating a scheme to distribute false information designed to boost the stock price of the publicly traded company...."
"...pleaded guilty this afternoon to three counts of securities fraud for issuing false press releases and making false statements on the company's website..."
including...
"...Hughes oversaw the issuance of false and misleading press releases that claimed:
that eConnect had begun a stock repurchase program
had received a $20 million dollar investment in "AA"-rated, asset-backed bonds
had received a purchase order to sell $964,000 worth
In fact, the so-called "AA" bonds were not rated and had little value and there was no stock repurchase program. The press release regarding the nearly $1 million sale of eCashPads was misleading because it caused the public to believe the purchase orders came from a company that had no knowledge of eConnect..."
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on the lighter side...
OT: uwlungman, and how did that work out for those on the tail end of the ECNC run?
eCONNECT CEO PLEADS GUILTY TO SECURITIES FRAUD
http://losangeles.fbi.gov/pressrel/2003/081103.htm
Individual Investors File Personal Federal Lawsuit Against eConnect & Thomas Hughes Regarding Alleged Stock Fraud.
http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp?DOCID=1G1%3A77024376&refid=ip_encyclopedia_hf&COOKI...
when is enough, enough?
re: "...CEO's have said many things over the years..."
thats correct, and ignoring history and its impact at the time relegates individuals to repeat the same mistakes
what does that have to do with the validity of the statement in question?
re: "...He told me that up until about a month ago he had time to focus on these types of issues, but that today the demands of this burgeoning company pretty much limits his time to issue these types of PR's..."
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!
yet he has time to field questions from the lowly common SH?
yeah, i know, it must take all of 15 minutes to put together a PR that simply states "as of____, X # of shares"
...NEXT!?