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This stock seems immune to any sort of news these days. Nice change of pace from what we had there for a few weeks.
Not a lot of buying pressure right now. Those PRs didn't do a whole lot. No big deal though.
Level 2 shows bid at 0.80
The buying pressure right now is enormous. I haven't seen something like this on Level 2 for quite a while.
Scottrade is still completely useless right now. Can't trade. Then you call the local office, get transferred to the call center, and disconnected.
Meanwhile, we can just watch the price go up but can't buy....
Sort of. Can't place stock orders. Doesn't help much,
I get them all the time. It's awful. I have to log back into Scottrade a dozen times a day.
They are down everywhere. I am pulling all my money out as soon as I have an opportunity. The quality of their service is extremely poor.
That's the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I'm done with Scottrade.
Got to watch out for NITE though. It might just be my own personal conspiracy theory, but I believe that if short interest is high, NITE makes attempts to pick the value down, and maybe even induce panic selling. I don't trust NITE.
Got to watch out for NITE though. It might just be my own personal conspiracy theory, but I believe that if short interest is high, NITE makes attempts to pick the value down, and maybe even induce panic selling. I don't trust NITE.
"Per GOIG’s last annual earnings report year ending September 2009, the company expects to be cash flow positive by 2nd quarter 2010."
This is a really important statement if they are still on track for this.
Yeah, the bids are really stacking up. You might see a big jump this morning right at the bell.
How can anyone possibly make the claim that they are not committed to growing this company and strengthening investor support?
This is why it is important to let the bashers and negative posters state their opinions. It gives some balance, plus an opportunity to discredit negative statements with supporting facts.
Yes, to the outside newbie, it looks like a board of pumpers. I will never delete any negative posts. I welcome them as opportunities.
Why would Verizon be interested in buying out the GO800 technology? Verizon provides cellular service, GO800 is an advertising service. It is not in their core competency.
On top of that, I find it hard to believe that GoIP Global would give you that information over a phone call.
I'm not sure they can afford to waive that charge. That sounds like a dangerous proposition if they don't get a bunch of contracts quickly.
Just to make sure I'm not missing anything here (my DD has been a bit sporadic and rushed), is Verizon Wireless on board yet or not?
We don't want a PR tomorrow. We want a PR when a PR is ready. If the end of the month is really going to be the official launch date, a PR should address the following:
- The timeline for launch is still accurate.
- A count of how many companies are signed up in how many regions
- Confirmation that all cellular providers are partnered
- Update on any bug fixes or software related issues
It's important to keep PRs substantial. If a substantial one is ready to be put out tomorrow, great. If it isn't, it needs to wait. Also, if it addresses at least some of the above points, especially the second, then we can start making realistic PPS projects. Personally, I'm not crazy about the almost billion shares, but so long as revenue can offset the possibility of dilution, or at least impactful dilution, then it's manageable.
I never feel bad when a shorter gets burned.
Here's a question: when you call an 800 number and are on hold, are they incurring a cost per minute during that time? I'm assuming they do. So if they can text a keyword in and have someone call them back when they are free, the company saves money by not keeping someone on hold. Even if GoIP charged the same rate per minute (or more) as other 800 providers, this can cut down on total minutes.
Now, this could affect conversion rate since they aren't on the phone anymore. The customer might go off and do something else and then can't be reached. I'm sure this is a consideration.
I agree. There won't be a ton of development here in the short-term and there will be some smart people out there who will twist this into a bad situation despite the fact that we all know this is part of the plan.
I think it is better for us to expect that the stock will be extremely volatile until we have an accurate gauge for sales numbers. And by my count, that won't happen until August. For long-term investors, it doesn't matter. For short-term, it does.
Technical Indicators:
http://freecharts.com/Equities.aspx?page=texpert&sym=goig
One thing you have to be careful of is the short selling game. For any investors here who are unfamiliar with it, it can be a very scary momentum change and will induce panic selling. I've been caught in it before, made me learn quick. But the drop isn't real. It doesn't mean the company is any less fundamentally sound then it was the weeks before.
Right now, you're looking at a situation that can be conducive to a short sell situation. If it happens, stay long and strong and the price will normalize again, but it can take some time.
One positive to it is that if it causes a sharp drop in the stock's PPS, it's even more reason to add to your position.
There's nothing wrong with PR firms. Without PR firms, lots of companies would never get their product any visibility. Sure, there are a few who don't have any integrity, but Skymark isn't a PR firm. They are an investment research company. They aren't blasting PRs out to anyone but their customers.
I suspect another round of a smear campaign is coming. Not a big deal though, since we've already seen it weather through shorts, smears, and a couple panic sells. It's always come back strong. This time around we can shrug it off a little easier.
The stock isn't crushed. What's your basis for stating that it is crushed? You never provide a basis for any of your posts.
As I suspected a while back, you have a vendetta against Skymark, not TSHO. Are they taking your customers? Are they more successful than you? It doesn't matter why you don't like them, but it's pretty clear that you feel threatened by Skymark or you wouldn't be here.
Tim, you are a crook and it will catch up to you.
I'm assuming they would post this quarterly just like other companies. But being pink sheet, they aren't obligated to?
If they start advertising companies that don't succeed, the effectiveness of their advertising diminishes. Thus, there is monetary incentive for them to advertise as much as possible, but with discretion.
Really, changes in integrity should be pretty transparent. If their recommendations start failing, they are mis-evaluating or their analysts are lousy. If their picks continue to succeed, their core business is staying consistent.
Also, they don't just make recommendations. For paid subscribers they provide custom research reports, tips on short-term opportunities, daily monitoring of the market, and general investor insight. This market probably wasn't near as big as it is now due to the influx of online brokerage firms.
Google, Verizon, Yahoo or Microsoft don't buy just for the technology. There are other factors that we don't always look at, but they do. They are first attracted by the technology. Then they look at the intellectual property and any rights to it, such as a patent. If they are still interested, they look at how the finances are managed, how the partnerships are written in legal terms, who the employees are and if they will continue to work there, share structure, etc. It is not uncommon for an acquiring company to pass up a good company because their books and contracts aren't in order. Also, it isn't uncommon for a company to spend hundreds of thousands to get those things in order prior to acquisition.
The reason behind this is as follows: let's say a company is purchased for $10 million, but the legal partnerships aren't written correctly. If there are loopholes that can be exploited, they could lose control of the technology, or be sued, or simply lose their partnerships. If the risk is deemed to potentially cost them millions, they will move right on to the next company. This is why a lot of seemingly great startups end up being "unacquirable."
If we really believe GoIP Global could be acquired, we ought to probe these factors a little deeper. Maybe take a look at what portion of their expenses are going towards bookkeeping and legal. Anyone here who is a lawyer or CPA might be able to provide insight as to what to look for.
Just an FYI to everyone, Level 2 shows that the market makers are slowly ticking the stock price down. This set off a fire sale yesterday. This is going to be a continuous issue until hard metrics are available to valuate the company. And some days it might trigger the panic button, but it always seems to climbs back.
The way I read it, Skymark gets paid $5000/month for continuing coverage of Tradeshow Marketing.
This isn't a bad thing. Anytime you provide a service that is beneficial to a company, you should get paid. And with the track record that Skymark has, they could probably command more than $5000/month because it puts TSHO in an "elite" status.
I think you're going to see lots of peaks and valleys for a while with this stock. It's really hard to determine the value of a company who is only beginning to generate revenue. Until real sales figures come out, how can you determine the exact worth? Best time to be invested for long-term growth, but most certainly trying.
Yes, two reasons:
1. He has monetary motive. He's most likely already shorted or tried to short. Plus, he's looking for another opportunity to short again.
2. He is threatened by Skymark/ESR. They both run financial investment advisory groups with very different strategies. He is absolutely threatened by the competition. This is no different than two companies or political candidates battling back and forth.
It's all about motive. He is not a benevolent person, thus he can't here to help. I suspect more than anything he has a vendetta against Skymark/ESR more than TSHO.
This capital that TSHO raised is the same one he discussed in the last conference call. Yet again the CEO comes through with another promise.
ok maone15, I have a question related to the company:
How would a pink sheet such as TSHO usually report financial information? I've checked otcmarkets.com and they don't appear to be required to. But if you don't report financials, you don't have a gauge of the stock. Is there a customary method that pink sheet companies use to relay this information to investors?
Yeah, this panic sell might not be done yet...
It magically halted around 0.70. It was fast and furious, then stopped on a dime. Strange.
A lot of this seems to be centered around Skymark, short sellers, and the smear campaign. And it's contagious.
Let's see what happens when the dust settles. I believe Tradeshow Marketing is strong and independent of all the hoopla going on. They are being victimized at the moment, but they were also rewarded before. This isn't going to be solved overnight.
I saw that too. I haven't seen a trade that big yet.
Anyone know who James Hinton is?
who are the big boys? you mean as buyers?