louie, It is' depressing - and it is so da** unfair.
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No question Amarin got tricked by a bunch of generic Lawyers - that does this all the time. Hikma +780 products - ANDA cases all the time.

And Nevada? Truth is given the "adjusted" scientific facts' H/R Lawyers presented - it could have happened in other US courts as well.

What you this moment can really blame Judge Du of Nevada for, is not using the Rule 60 'free lifeboat' - instead of drowning the obvious Just Case laid before her. So Shameful for Nevada Court - and trust in US Justice Systems.

stydy, Great musical point - Thanks :)

Actually I have no special musical background other than' always had music with me, everywhere possible, in Car and otherwise - like very many do.

A bit surprised even that it is being aloud here to the extent it has been for the last couple of weeks. Probably because the SP 'going nowhere' is a bit depressing - so some musical color helps to move on.

But will try to tone it down - after all this is a investor forum about stocks :)

The truth of the moment is' - that Fauci (blocking Dr. Zelenko's Covid protocol) has hundred of thousands of American lives on his conscience.
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Truth is that Judge Du of Nevada 9th Circuit - could end up having CDV deaths in multiplied numbers of Fauci's deaths on her conscience - if her ruling on Amarin patents in US is not Reversed.

RobinF, Many don't think of Germany as a place with big artists and feelings - Wrong :)

Helena Fisher is a big a Star in Germany (Vaszeka land) as they come

Fell upon this great duet - caling on the goods need to stand by Amarin :)

Lemm@ I personally would newer use something like that - Hate these 'ever scrolling boards' - where all sort of different 'non related' messages are 'thrown at you endlessly' :)

Lemm@ I had - what I think could be a good Idea - for making a website - where potential Vascepa Users can go for Truthful information's from practicing doctors - and people who have been taking Vascepa for years and their experiences.

I imagined something like 10 of the most experienced/qualified Doctor posters from the iHub AMRN site managing/posting their best stories around Vascepa on this Vascepa User site (or another maybe even better name - maybe a name suggesting quest).

Maybe some of the law people could orientate 'ordinary' people on the Lawsuits in a understandable language.
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Personally I would have no place in the project other than at start maybe - in organizing Webhotel etc -maybe setting up the WordPress site - hopefully get Amarin behind as sponsor for the 'experiment'.
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There is so much valuable information on the Ihub AMRN site from DRs (like yourself) pulling their heart out in this good cause. Law people - Captains fantastic Graphics - but no 'ordinary' interested potential Vascepa user - will ever find it on a scrolling investor site like this.

But if the pearls of the many stories were put on an ordinary WP site (with search facilities) and we all promoted the link on social media everywhere - onkel Joe' - a little to heavy with known CDV issues - might pick up on it :)

Jasbg

PS. I have a way of drifting into the wilderness with an Idea like this (with the music and all that) - but I still believe' - set up in the right way for all the Doctors to use as reference to their patients - for 'truthful' stories from actual long time patients on Vascepa - it could help move the needle in the right direction.

Still playing with this idea' of a Serious' Truthful' Vascepa User site. But keep stopping at 'mixing music' with the messages.

Somehow I think the idea of putting music to the stories - makes the whole thing more alive - but maybe it is just me :)

http://talksense.dk/vascepa_user/

Promoting in Germany:

Sleven, Thanks - and Yes your right 'Im on guessing grounds here' - so will look at your link - and hopefully get wiser :)

MNBio, Not being a Law person, Why would SC consider by what Rule - the case has been rejected in lower Courts ?

Hopefully it is' what is being evaluated 'as the most important subjects generally' for society - that ends up in Supreme Court'.

And if it is accepted there - I would hope they will look at it with 'Fresh Eyes' - not being affected by lower courts rulings - if the whole process of repealing shall have any meaning :)

Jasbg

MNBio, What do you expect to achieve with a question like that ?

If they didn't ?? ... If they did ??
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What is important here is' - SC Should/SC Shall take up this Case - which is - with the latest development (B's talk of giving away Covid-19 Vaccine Patents for free) more important than ever.

No other Case is more important this moment - being evaluated by the brightest legal minds of the land - 'The USA Supreme Court'.

Truth is' - that it is impossible to exaggerate the importance of Protecting Patents - for the economic future of USA.

Jasbg

Weekend: Quite a number of Doctors and Lawyers on this board.

Here a song to remind them' why they didn't became Cowboys :)

Have to admit - I only got half into 'Panama Papers' before writing here about it. Not surprisingly they later focused on T and family - which is fair - he is an important figure. And yes' - like very many other rich people his advisers tried to minimize taxes.

I'm not defending - just stating facts' - and I would vote for anything at any time - that could stop this sort anti social behavior - be it the T company ore any other organization/cooperation/private person.

The group of journalist's behind the 'Panama Papers' revelations - are true hero's in my book - to the extent they restore the belief in a better, more just world at some point in the future. :)

Jasbg

Nb. Improvements will not be through 'Bigger State' though. History proves that 'the bigger the state' the worse the corruption.

Marjac & Team, To give yourself a chance to understand the World of today, - to understand why a company like Amarin is not Rewarded' - but is indeed obstructed by cynical 'money interests' - you have to se the movie 'Panama Papers'.

Even if you 'think you know about general corruption and cynical behavior of the richest' most powerful people of this Planet - it is chocking to realize - that it is 'Everywhere'. Its in dictatorships - but it is very much also in the so-called Free World of the West.

FFS, When things don't go the way your Genius TA projected - again' and again' - you take of with tail between your legs - and point to another stock.
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Hopefully you don't expect anyone to take you serious after this ?

Meo, Not even being a Law person think I can answer that: .. YES :)

marjac, Great story - and arguments for True and Fair Justice to be ALWAYS obtained - by the selected people given the immense power of Judging in the Courts.
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What has also hit this board lately regarding litigation cases (surely me) - is the timetable announced for the Infringement case. Did you see it ?

Actual Court Case: Oktober 2023. Expected ruling sometime early 2024.

Have to ask you': Is this a normal procedure for a Case involving 'patents running out' (the clock is ticking) ?

Jasbg

CBB, As always' you ague in a strong and convincing manner. And your well-known view on BP would be able to 'sell Vascepa better' is shared by probably a majority on this board.
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Looking at realty John Thero has indeed announced his retirement, a new very competent CEO announced, so 'things are moving' at Amarins.

Eventually some sort of BP relation will happen. Could be clean BO - Pipeline establishment JV - or some sort of Sales Cooperation.

Things will happen (has to) involving Big Pharma in the not to long future.

Jasbg

wode@ 'Me Too'. Has to happen - and soon would be good :)

Even the uncertainty with litigation cases and generics in USA - there is so much potential this Company, who has a super economy, that the current SP (valuation) is off the rails. Somewhere between $10 - and 15 would be reasonable, looking at future prospects :)

Jasbg

luvbio@ Thank you for very interesting link. This guy is Sharp. I understand most (I think).

Conclusion - Covid-19 is a Vascular Decease - which is good news for the Vascepa Trial - fighting the Covid related problems for people who have been infected.

Jasbg

Sleven@ Agreed. If you hate a Company that much, just simply Leave :)
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Sleven@ Fair enough.

I personally always hated these Wise A** guys (Monday morning coaches) - that think they can do better than everyone else - ALWAYS' :)

Sleven@ LR - has TROLL written all over him.

Don't waste your time on this guy. He provokes you deliberately all the time. Call JT and Amarin BOD all kind of names.

Why this guy isn't banned from AMRN board permanently is beyond me.

Jasbg

rose@ Happens every time. Even in factual terms - for Real Longs here - it does not matter if the AMRN stock is $4.5 or 5.5.

If you are 'True Long' in AMRN - it's be cause you believe - there is enormous potential in the drug Vascepa. Being 'True Long' - you believe in a realistic price potential min. $25- 30 - before you will consider selling.

The SP up and down - this fact hasn't changed.

Personally I do suspect BP (Big Pharma/Big Players) having fun squishing the AMRN Stock to the Limit - scaring of as many Retailers as possible - before the Big Turn.

And YES - there will be a Big Turn for the AMRN stock. Only uncertainty is 'when it will happen' - what will start it ?

Jasbg

gozips@ Thanks - great spotted:
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Being on CNBC I noticed Regeneron - being mad gods' for putting out the thought's that th old Ukrainian born doctor 'gave away for free more than a year ago' - and were suppressed all over Western world media.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2021/01/12/regeneron-inks-deal-with-government-to-supply-covid-antibody-drug.html

Hundred of thousands of life could have been saved - following Zelenco's protocol which he gave away for free. But Fauci and BP managed to 'connect him to T' - and the press locked his simple lifesaving methods - out completely.

Now more than a year later Regeneron come out in their wisdom, 'Stop the virus before it explodes - day 6. Didier Raoult and Zelenco new that Marts 2020.

https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/zelenko-treatment-protocol/

Postes@ Thanks - Arm feels better after sufficient Merlot and a nights sleep :)

My wife 2 days ago were vaccinated Moderna (she was all blue and a sour arm) - I was Pfizer - and a sour arm.

Wife were concerned why she should have same dose as me' - she ways only half (50kg) - but I guess thats weight not a subject in vaccination programs.

Jasbg

postes - rose@ Obviously expressed this in a bad way - sorry for that.
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What I meant was' that it is the Insecurity of the Law cases that 'force SP down - more than the actual facts. Market hate Insecurity.
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Know that this is probably a purely theoretical thought (the Law cases are running - cant be stopped/abandoned just like that).

But say that - Amarin says: We lost the Nevada Case - hard luck - generic's are now in the market - of the old Label of Vascepa (the patent for lowering Trigs - that was running out) period.
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Amarin for now - continues as before - if considered necessary 'from a market prospective - will go AG with Vascepa in US - end of story.
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Point being it is the 'Insecurity' of the Law Cases that kills AMRN SP - not the 'real world state' of the Company. Taking that into account 'why even start legislation/appeals you would likely loose anyway'.
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I will stop here - as this is to a big degree 'a nonsense debate' given the fact that - it is all purely theoretical speculation - in the end.

Go read something else Guys - this wont go any further :)

Jasbg


PS: I have a very sour shoulder BTW - from being Vaccinated with Pfizer today. Did you experience the same ?

Lemm@ A big order is always in itself positive for a Stock.

Recently there were a similar situation in market closing - an people with financial insight explained that it was what is called a MOC order - I think the same here:

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marketonclose.asp

ralph@ Thanks - and I'm Long no matter what in AMRN (will Die with this stock - or celebrate when it Wins for real) :)
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Agree on you're points - and yes 'the true 'turn - wake up of WS' will be in 2021.

mrmain@ Funny thing is - that a complete reverse of policy in US - could/can be what would change things for this stock.

Stop all marketing (no reps) - close all Amarin based Litigation Cases:

Imposing Security on the stock - removing the 'IF's - would most likely make the SP go North.

WS would be forced to revaluate Amarin and all the 'Positives' of the Company - and that could only mean SP rising IMO.

And in the end US Vascepa users - could just buy Vaszeka from Amazon Europe Online - if US market gone (strangled from bad product Generic Vascepa and endless Law Cases).

grbni@ ?? I don't understand what you mean here :)

Were you actually answering Lemm ?

Lemm@ You're done :)
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Infringement case scheduled Oktober 2123'. As of right now Litigation is killing this Stock. JL was leaving' just a bit wiser than the rest of us - me for sure.

Even this is the best' most important Drug in the world - the ever lasting insecurity of never ending Litigation is killing Amarin.
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Oktober 2123 - a joke if it wasn't so depressing. Only real hope for US market (which is the only thing that is right now valued in AMRN) is the SC to grant the case - and that is what SP right now is reflecting.

Jasbg

NB. Only real comfort - things can only improve from here - during rest of 2021. Even marketing in US closed down completely - the outlook for the company (and general strong economy) will eventually make the value of Amarin higher. Potentially in 1 - 2 - 3 years 'A lot Higher'.

In my next life (could be soon I'm to be vaccinated tomorrow) - I will be like Jesse Livermore - in the stock market :)
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What I recall' - North told some months ago - that JL got out of AMRN in about $18 (via option calls bought prior Nevada Shock).

He always said he couldn't handle the Law-Nonsense (his words) so not in AMRN board anymore.
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But look at development where he went (again North mentioned back then).

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BNGO?p=BNGO

From $0.5 to 5.68 (top + $15) Since December 2020. That's the way to invest in BIO stocks :)

I highly recommend browsing "Jesse Livermore"'s posts on ihub. He literally held the hand of $AMRN investors through the dark days of being a penny stock. Phenomenal & extensive knowledge in the space. His stories are great. The Higgins to your Magnum PI https://t.co/DGIhQJknZt

— TerraPharma (@TerraPharma1) July 26, 2019

johng@ I suppose your link is part of this this document:

(could not open it . so searched):

https://www.fda.gov/media/89135/download
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This is the first time I see this document' - and a few pages into 'the FDA wisdom - of Generic being 'the same' as Branch - it starts to hurt' - with all the information here just on this one generic GV (that is nowhere NEAR the quality of Branch Vascepa - from every statement given on the Hikma Generic (smelling) product.

Jasbg

raf@ Talking about AF - I'm surely not defending the guy - only stating the fact that he ended being right Completely.

And even I don't like him', being in Bio analyzing for a very long time - the guy must have had a reason for his 'completely against the market projection'.
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ACST - were his favorite back then - and he clearly enjoyed (having had fights with Amarin supporters for years - on social media) - to indicate that ACST - were in the same league as Amarin. But of cause even AF could not foresee that the Company had to 'give up completely' their trials on the drug that was announced as a potential Vascepa competitor.

As many here says 'he might be a hack', but I would have been a hell of a lot richer' had I taken his advice and sold in + $20 - that's all I'm saying :)

Jasbg

ralphey@ Searching for the org video on Valsartan tragedy - I came across this very telling webpage:

ralphey@ There is a lady reporter at Bloomberg's that actually dig deep in in this sort of BIO stories.

She has had a number of stories about the 'money focused' Generic Companies and 'especially' about a killing faulty product - which I cant recall right now the name of.
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I'll try to find out who this lady is - and then maybe some of you Pro Doctors (you - HK - US Citizens) - could try to contact her.
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Within the 15 minutes - I think I found the story from Blomberg - and the lady reporter is Anna Edney: This is not the org video on the subject - I'll look further for that:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2019-09-12/fda-faces-qc-nightmare-after-carcinogens-infiltrate-generic-drug-supply-video

Jasbg

zman@ It was not me posting this earlier - but found it searching the net for 'Judge Du Horse Slaughter' (lots of stories):

I think the story posted here were this one:

https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-nevada-wild-horses-20130822-story.html

postes@ I have to agree with You here. Amarin were killed by the ruling of Judge Du - now proven to be based on Fraud.
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Hikma has 780 + products. https://www.hikma.com/products/

The case against Amarin - is a typical examble om how they have build their business. Anda cases in Courts is routine for them - that is what their specialized Law team does/how they progress.
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So that the inconvenience argument for Hikma - ways more than the Fraud that killed Amarin valuation (opened the door for generics) is an absolute nonsense invalid argument no matter how you look at it.

Jasbg