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In fact from october 2004 untill now the pps from CTKH went UP with
150%
October 2004 pps $ 0,0008
Februari 2005 pps $ 0,002 - that's 150% UP.
A good start in my opinion.
Good luck,
Ctkh7mln.
I don't understand Beeboy, From my perspective the pps went UP from approx. $ 0,0008 to $ 0,0020 during the last months.
In my opinion the pps went UP on almost NO news. So what will happen when some real good news sinks in?
Perhaps I see the glass half full instead of half empty, but it is a fact that the pps went UP last months.
Cetek just starts to gain some momentum IMO.
Good luck,
Cetek7million
Hi Jim,
That's the big question for me too. What will happen to the pps when there is an acquisition, or a take-over tomorrow?
Roundmot obviously has the knowledge to say that 3rd & 4rd Quarter will be good for Cetek. That's okay of course, but I think that the 1st and second Q will be positive too. -this is just my personal speculation, based on the PR's-
According to the press-release(s) Cetek is still growing and in the process of an acquisition. There is no time-frame for the acquisition, but the growth for 2005 is almost guaranteed.
Good luck,
Ctkh7million
Hi Pennyworld,
I understand your opinion about Cetek Technologies Ltd. and I think that the most important development is growth. Hilal is clearly focussed on growth and I appreciate that. He doesn't seem to be worried about the pps, because eventually the pps must go up substantially.
You said: "Go figure. Not business savvy IMO. UNLESS - he has a very good excuse for not PRing the world on this grand growth successes over the past 2 years. Think about it... that extra 200M in cash would have paid for building new furnaces. So he wouldn't have even had to worry about losing leverage during negotiations with an acquisition targets. He wouldn't need to acquire, thus no negotiations."
It's not just a matter of production-volume IMHO. I think that Cetek is also searching for added values from external expansion. Fayiz said: "as well as external, via acquisition of manufacturing companies with similar synergies." in the last PR. I like the idea. Cetek is already growing, but of course adding new technologies or combining knowledge can give the new CTKH an impuls.
As long as Cetek can show us strong growth, it's possible that CTKH can get away with a R/S, "while striving to build shareholder value."
Looking forward to the next PR.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Unfortunately there are no “total” growth percentages mentioned in the press release:
“Sales revenues grew (..% how much?), with this most recent quarter being the best yet (the best quarter in ..% growth? -> or just the best yet compared to all other quarters?), in terms of production and shipment of our proprietary ceramic substrate product.”
But Cetek is telling us again (compared to the last 2 or 3 press-releases) that CTKH is in fact a real Nanotechnology-business: “Another promising area is in CNT (Carbon NanoTube) technology. CNTs are tubes of carbon atoms less than a nanometer in diameter.” That's good news to me!
Hilal is also telling the shareholders that Cetek is a healthy company: “Regarding our financial health, I am pleased to report that Cetek again made money. Specifically, we realized a 50% increase in ceramic revenues over the previous period.”
CTKH = a strong hold in my opinion.
Good luck,
Ctk7mln
Fayiz is already celebrating CTKH success and is caught on camera while driving his brand new car -making fun-:
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Drifting%20Arab%20Style
It's time for me to be serious again.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
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ctk7mln.
Hi Pennyworld,
In fact Cetek has been selling 2.5 BN shares in approximately the same timeframe as they are in the black. Therefore Cetek’s cash-position must be tremendous by now, strengthening their negotiation-power with banks or other participation-partner(s). This way Cetek can even take over a much bigger company than we can imagine.
I think that Hilal is doing a good job by hiring Jim Stock for the Public Relations. The PR’s are made carefully and with dedication and that’s why the pps has improved lately. It’s not necessary IMO for CTKH to make more PR’s per year, or to boost the pps by screaming of the roofs that Cetek is in the black. Just let the market do it’s thing while Cetek is doing the buy-back and business-expansion.
Growth is the most powerful strategy. That’s why I have a very good feeling about Cetek Technologies ltd. Whatever happens.....it must be good.
Good weekend,
Ceteksevenmillion
Hi Pennyworld,
First you come with the 80M story from Roundmot (by the way, if that is true I will retire -fun-), and now you worry about a reversed split again. Don't worry! As long as Cetek is growing, the pps should grow too.
Good luck!
Ceteksevenmillion -I don't believe/trust the 80M story-
I like to read all the conversations on this board about Cetek. My compliments to you guys, keeping this board alive!
To me the fact that Cetek is showing growth and black numbers for much longer than a year is very encouraging. Cetek’s activities should attract more and bigger customers. Perhaps this is already going on? Who knows? One or two big company names will probably launch the pps to big heights. Is $ 0,50 possible? I don't know, but please surprice me!!!
I think that Cetek is not only expanding in volume. That shouldn’t be difficult for Cetek, because CTKH can build their own ovens and Cetek must have the cash to do so. I think (and hope) that Cetek is expanding on technology this year. Cetek taking over another business might just be the $$$$$$$ development Il Padrino was dreaming about.
“Assemble” technologies to create new opportunities. I speculate that Cetek is aiming for some form of Synergy.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Hi Zigzaghi,
I estimated between $ 5.000.000,-- and $ 10.000.000,--. The revenues must at least have tripled in the past 4 years, if Cetek is expanding it's business this year--> another "triple" is in the pipe-line.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Hi Jim,
I like Paris and New York, but Amsterdam will remain the most special city for me. Het Spui has some nice cafe's, Het Leidsche Plein too, de Albert Cuyp is a famous Dutch market in de Pijp and of course de Wallen -the famous red light district of Amsterdam-. If you behave like an Englishman in Amsterdam, people will probably not really appreciate you to be honest. But if you behave like an American (they have a good reputation), people will understand and help you, I'm sure.
But what am talking about? You’ve been in Amsterdam before. Great! Next time you come over, let me know. I also know some good restaurants, cafe’s and other places to go. If my girlfriend doesn’t mind, you can even sleep in her apartment.
Good weekend.
Good luck!
Ceteksevenmillion
Hoi Fleur,
Ik sprak twee jaar geleden iemand die bij een gerenomeerd Nederlands elektronicabedrijf werkt. Hij vertelde mij dat volgens hem ceram. displays meer toekomst hebben dan LCD- of plasmasystemen. Na wat zoeken op internet kwam ik op Cetek uit. Vooral het feit dat Cetek zijn eigen ovens produceerd (en dus ook die specialistische technologie in huis heeft) en deze ook zélf gebruikt is volgens mij heel overtuigend. De beste broodbakker van Amsterdam heeft immers ook zijn eigen oven gebouwd!
Het is leuk om te fantaseren over de gigantische koersstijgingen -zoals bij enkele andere Nasdaq-pennies- en ik kan alleen maar hopen dat CTKH op een dag ook 80 keer over de kop gaat. Maarrrrr...beide benen op de grond: en eerst zien en dan geloven!
Succes!
Ceteksevenmillion
Most people (at least on this board) have a couple of millions Cetek Shares. It has almost no use to trade with smaller numbers than let's say a million. In fact you can -theoretically- eliminate 6 zero's from the O/F. In that case Il Padrino has approx. 2 shares from the 3875. I have 7, someone else has 10 or 20. That's why I think that there are approximately 150 people trading in Cetek. And that's why the pps can rise fast and high. Just think about it: if 1000 or 10.000 other people want to buy a piece of the Cetekcake. I seriously think that $ 0,20 (80 times current price, same price-rise as SPEA) or $ 0,50 is possible. I cannot even imagine the price to go higher, but PLEASE surprice me!
Kind regards,
Ceteksevenmillion
Hi Universal Trader,
I looked at the chart of Spea and I agree with you that such a price explosion can occur with Cetek. We have to know who they are dealing with and UP we go. G R A N D S L A M !!!!!!!!!!
If this happens I will immigrate to the USA -->> New York. Or will the US refuse a RICH Dutch guy with a Yamaha? -FUN-
Good luck!!!
Ceteksevenmillion
Hi Il Padrino,
Example: Cetek Technologies Ltd. makes $ 4000.000,- profit in 2005. In this scenario the profit per share should be approx. $ 0,001 and than the pps should be $ 0,01 at a minimum. With this example I just want to say that Hilal doesn't need to buy back and cancel shares to improve the price per share. He just needs to increase production, sales, revenues and profits!
Promised: Cetek should be buying back 500 million shares -as promised-. At the current PPS this would take Cetek approx. $ 900.000,- to accomplish. But we know that Hilal needs (this?) money to increase the production-capacity. This is probably Hilal's problem: Selling "no" to customers, because the capacity is insufficient? Or selling "no 500 million buy-back" to the shareholders? As a matter of fact, there was never a time-line for the buy-back. Cetek can also do this in a ten year period. (for example)
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Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Some people cannot read between the lines and are selling -although low volumes- at $ 0,0017. IMO they give away their possessions to smart guys who are buying the shares. These guys CAN read between the lines and they walk away happy and loaded with lethal Cetek-ammunition.
This is what I am talking about:
"Our original business plan's objective was to become a fully reporting public company as revenue growth dictated. It would be likely that we will see this objective met by the end of 2005. And, based on this and other anticipated developments in the new year, it would be reasonable to begin seeing Cetek's stock prices realize its rightful pricing, based on our fundamentals and based on simple audited performance."
I read between the lines and I will NEVER sell Cetek's shares for only $ 0,0017
I think that the CEO is telling us straight forward that the current price per share is an insult and that Cetek is completely undervalued at the moment, but he has the intention to correct the pps UPWARD!!! soon. This is of course my personal interpretation.
Good luck everybody,
Ceteksevenmillion
Hi Il Padrino,
You have to prepare for a "Random-roller-coaster-ride" with Cetek's shares. The ups and downs will follow each other up fast and random. I think it's a good idea to set a certain goal. But remember that when you get there, maybe Cetek becomes a real HOT stock after you sell. I had this experience with Crucell last year. Bought Crucell shares at € 2,60..this stock went down further to approx. € 1,40..then it went up to € 5,70 (I sold my shares there). Today Crucell shares are worth € 10,83 !
With Cetek I want to do a better job and set my goals much higher -selling other shares- so I can improve my position in this company while the pps is still low.
Good luck!
Cetek7million
Stakddek's question in post 1870 is intriguing. I think that a company who is producing excellent ovens should get the orders. But that's just my opinion.
Thank you BigTip. I don’t know AmericanBulls importance because I am from Holland and never heard from them. What do you think of the AmericanBulls buy-advice? Are these guys important or not so?
Hi Skitahoe, you said: “Perhaps before that ever happens emotions will take the price to a dollar or more, I've seen it happen in other stocks. I do not believe prices of a dollar or more can be justified until we're earning hundreds of millions.”
I believe that as soon as Cetek is in a position to earn $ 50 million (in an outlook) that a price per share of a dollar is possible and realistic. The profits could be close to $ 0,01 per share in that situation and also take in mind that the market will expand rapidly for Cetek’s unique Production Process, end-products and (excellent)ovens. Emotions should have some influence too IMO.
Hi PennyWorld, you said: “However, we cannot forget that Fayiz also talked about pursuing non-pink listing by yearend 2004.”
I agree with you on that part, however now we have an official announcement in a PR that Cetek will make a real effort to become non-pink listed. However, there is no guarantee that Cetek will be a fully reporting company by end 2005. That's true. They state: "Our original business plan's objective was to become a fully reporting public company as revenue growth dictated. It would be likely that we will see this objective met by the end of 2005." This makes it sure that it will happen soon or later. Personally I wouldn't even mind it if Cetek starts reporting on July 2006. Just as long as Cetek stays growing and make more profits in the mean time. I believe that explosive growth will be the case for Cetek for the next years (or decade), thanks to Hilal's strategic efforts and all the hard working people at Cetek. One day I’ll come over to Poughkeepsie and compliment those guys personally.
Excellence in ceramics.
Kind regards,
Ceteksevenmillion
Hi Chuckerfmfla,
Good luck with your rejuvenation (I hope this word is correct in your language) and make sure the doctors use Ceramics. This is what I found on the internet:
World's first reliable ceramic knee :
A team of Australian researchers has come up with an international project leading to the development of the world's first reliable ceramic knee technology.
A team of 12 engineers, surgeons and material scientists has designed the first largely ceramic prosthetic knee that, by reducing the effects of friction and wear, is expected to have a much longer lifetime than existing technology.
And.....
Trident® Ceramic Hip System
Eclipsing All Others...
New ceramic-on-ceramic joint replacements are expected to meet greater demands
of younger, more active patients and be in service longer than ever before. To meet these demands and reduce the potential for early failure due to osteolysis, alternate bearing surfaces have been developed to minimize the amount of wear in total hip replacements.
I am sure you can play soccer with Stakddek when you are back. My uncle had two hip-operations and now he actually can play soccer, ride a bicycle (and have a mistress, the lucky b......!!!) . He wished he had these operations 10 years earlier.
Good luck Chucker, hope te hear from you soon!
Ceteksevenmillion
Hi Bigdon, The 100% growth is "approximately" based on Cetek's third quarter Press Release: "Revenues were up approximately 100% from the comparable quarter in 2003"
I think that the Public Relations from Cetek has improved dramatically - also thanks to Jim Stock. Let’s be honest about it: Fayiz Hilal kept word by improving the website in time. www-search-robots will visit the new Cetek site in the coming days. Within a week or so the whole world can find Cetek through those search engines. I think that the previous Cetek website was not search-robot-friendly at all. But the new website even contains all the properties(!) of Cetek’s unique materials and products. I am sure this will give new impulses to Cetek‘s business.
This is the most remarkable phrase from Cetek’s Year-End Message IMO: "nobody makes the material like Cetek." The Cetek Process must be unique, because nobody can imitate the product. Patents are NOT pending and actually that's a good idea. Remember that Coca Cola never patented their production process. They just keep the Process secret for decades for obvious reasons.
Unfortunately the Ceramic Store is not accomplished yet. But I found this information on the new website: “Our Engineering staff will develop special formulations to meet customers' specifications and requirements. We will provide the prototypes in pre-production and production size quantities as required. We also provide "Value Added Services" to insure optimal value, quality, performance, and delivery.”
“Value Added Services” will probably become the link to The Ceramic Store, but I am pretty sure that samples or small quantities will be delivered by Cetek on demand.
The most important improvement is that Cetek will become a fully reporting company by end 2005. I think that Il Padrino was right about Cetek all the time. And it's possible and reasonable for Cetek to become a pennystock soon.
"Since the companies inception, I have dedicated myself to making sure Cetek gains a solid foundation in as many potentially profitable industries as possible. This is only the beginning of a great year." - Fayiz Hilal CEO 12/31/04
Happy new year everybody!
Ceteksevenmillion
31-12-2004: Take a good look at Cetek Technologies Ltd. (Nasdaq: CTKH):
1. Cetek is a profitable company - This is the most important proposition I can find in favour of Cetek. Ask yourself this question: How many companies (you have shares in or know) actually are making profit?
2. Cetek’s pps is very low at this moment (31-12-2004 - $ 0,0012), but the trading volumes are low too (7,367,666 with O/F 3.875 Billion). When the trading volume increases I expect the pps to go up progressively. This happened before and Cetek is in my honest opinion a SUPER investment.
3. Cetek revenues are growing at approximately 100% per year!!! I strongly believe that growth is the most powerful strategy for any enterprise. Advanced ceramics are expected to continue their growth. It is estimated that electronic ceramics will continue to hold the largest market share of the U.S. advanced ceramics materials, while substantial growth will occur in the structural ceramics market.
Revenues were up approximately 100% from the comparable quarter (3rd qtr)in 2003, and as has been the case of the past three quarters, Cetek continues to operate profitably.
IMPORTANT: Operationally, demand for Cetek's proprietary ceramic material is increasing as never before, and additional production capacity is needed, so as to get positioned ahead of the current, and future, production increases. (source: CTKH release alerts brief status update for the third quarter.)
4. Cetek has a unique production process. The company has been engaged in developing a process (the "Cetek Process") to produce ceramic products at lower production costs with enhanced qualities.
This is an important USP in my opinion: Over the last several years the Company has been engaged in the development of the Cetek Process. The process involves proprietary formulations, mixing and sintering procedures and results in a ceramic product which is smooth and requires little or no machining thereby reducing or eliminating machining costs.
5. Cetek delivers substrates that are used in computers, medical equipment, and communication equipment and consumer products. These are ALL growth markets.
6. Cetek customer relations: Cetek is developing a new marketing plan that includes the launching of a new division called "The Ceramic Store." This will be an Internet-based business serving as an online outlet for ceramic thus responding to the needs of researchers and other engineers where demand is often for low quantities, and where order flow may not be consistent. We expect "The Ceramic Store" to be operational by the end of the year. Additionally, the present homepage at www.cetektechnologies.com will be upgraded, making it more "search engine friendly" and accessible to a greater audience of potential customers.
7. Jim Stock (Tel : 866 242 2405) quote in reply to Il Padrino: “my outlook for the longterm future of the company remains positive” (30-12-2004)
8. Fuel Cell developments: Cetek Technologies is exploring the potential use of the company's ceramics in fuel cells, as this is an example of another growing industry wherein high grade ceramic material has future commercial application. The ability for the Company to produce ceramic plates in very large pieces places Cetek in a very promising position in this, and other, industries going forward.
9. Cetek has the capability to custom mix the materials to meet the customers specified requirements at minimal time and cost.
10. The last 4 Press releases are positive. Talking about growth in revenues, profits and future-expectations. It is up to us (shareholders of Cetek) and new investors to pick up the Cetek lottery tickets. Good luck!!! Cetek7million
The best is yet to come! Quote: Fayiz Hilal CEO and President / Cetek Technologies Ltd.
I don't mind the silence -I have enough patience- although it's possible that Cetek will come with news soon.
Expect it to happen.
You don't need to be a rocket-scientist to see that accumulating percentages will lead to "muchos dollaress" at a certain point in time. Cetek has 4 quarters of accumulating growth, both in revenues and profit. Cash is king, at least in my opinion.
Beeboymama, Due Dillinger and other people posting on this board (including myself) don't have the real numbers. Due Dillinger simply states that he doesn't trust (or trade) in non-reporting companies. Of course that's his good right.
I strongly believe that growth is the most powerful strategy for any enterprise.
I don't mind "the silence" from Cetek. Just show me the next growthpercentages and I'll be happy to buy more & more Cetekshares.
Kind regards,
Ceteksevenmillion -formerly known as Cetektwomillion-
I think it's a good development that more and more people are posting on this Cetek board. The silent days are over.
Kind regards,
Ceteksevenmillion -formerly known as Cetektwomillion-
Hi Skitahoe,
You're completely right. And there are also other developments which can have a booming effect on Cetek. Cetek might obtain new deals and contracts. Cetek will probably take over another business soon. Cetek might introduce new products with new qualities and open new markets with it.
I mention a lot of "mights" in this post, this is what I really know: Cetek is GROWING and Growth is vital IMO!!! I even believe that growth is the most powerful strategy for any enterprise. Above-average profitable growth leads to superior business results and gives Cetek the edge over the competitors. And this is exactly the situation according to the pressreleases.
Have a good day!
Ceteksevenmillion -formerly known as Cetektwomillion-