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KNOS airfilters kill COVID-19
Good for you!!!
Many times the phone app works when online does nor and vice vera
How long did you work on this?
Ummmmm got lost in the weeds a minute into it.....two words for you
EXECUTUVE SUMMARY please
Nice!!! 911=New Imminent by MM Code yes?
Hopefully he get the ear of a State Rep with a community with a struggling factory with poor sales and they can get to congress and convince it to use the war powers acr to mandate mass production.
Read my post instead of sending insults. Then check the volume the last three trading days. Then look up the term volume before price surge and news.
Why is 100 Shares "boring"?
Did you even bother to read the post?
100 shares is a lot gor this stock?
Okay Tortie you see that window where it says "volume"? Well that is the number of shares traded for that day.
Above it is a "chart" this shows the historicle stock price.
There are also these things called "numbers" that are involved in stocks as well. The higher the number for the stock the more its worth.
Dont worry once you learn how to read a post sky is the limit for you big boy.
100 share is a Market Maker Signall
100 = I need shares
See article and codes below
Perhaps floats is again about to be locked up?
What I don't ynderstand is where is all this volume coming from with what about 500m traded this past week?
There has been no 8k stating a share increase...but question...since they are not yet current do they legally not have to file this?
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I recall seeing a very large % of that is restricted....thus always keeping 51% in ownership hands to avoid a takeover. A member here posted that some time ago I dont remember specifics.
At the time there was not an environmal need and it was more financially sound to stay with what the current air filtration systems were. That has now all changed. Blue prints for massive recirculating shipboard purifyers exist and as stated it could be entirely possible through the War Powers Act that Trump could order all Naval Ships to be fitted with KNOS technolog and order major manufacturing companies to immediately begin production. BRO!!!
Stock is going to surge when this happenes there wont be any need for a RS. To get out of trip 000,'s Anyway 750m float does not warrent it either.
Probably because there was not the perception there was a shipboard environmental need at the time woukd be the reason that intitiative did not go far. Now with that need a clear and present danger the blueprints for execution already exist. With the War Powers act Trump could pick up the phone and tell any major manufactering corporation to immediatly order them to switch to mass production of this system.
No problem Gringo!! Did you see the pics of my new outdoor office on my deck? KNOS will be having me buy the building soon enough!!
They are not. However the important thing is they have a DoD DUNS number so they dont have to go through red tape to get one. With the emergency powers act the DoD does not have to go through the normal bidding process. Its as simple as picking up the phone and applying funds to the DUNS number for a purchase
Volume: 50+Million on the buys, 10+Million on the sells.
News is coming!!!!!
Writing to my Senators and my Congresswoman
with a letter and specifications on KNOS and what it can do. I have dealt with congressional reps numerous time during my career in the Marines dealing with individual Marine issues.
By LAW the Congressional rep must respond so I will know its moving up the chain. The Senators do not but in general they do get briefed.
Why would any of them care? They are politicians. Imagine them calling a news conference being the the one who uncovered such an amazing thing for say nursing homes....to them it means THIS COULD GET ME RE-ELECTED!!!....and yes while living in England at the moment I am a resident of.....Florida...getting the info together and will probably be sending out the letters and info Monday or so.
Takes all of ten minutes to get on their web sites get the address type of a letter with what the purifiers can do and print out some info showing it and off the letters go.
In the past my letters to my congresswoman are received and I get a letter back in about two to three weeks stating it has been received. In general if it is a non priority it can take up to two months to get an answer as to what action has been taken...but that is the think the congressional rep must by LAW tell me the outcome. If its a priority it goes to the top of the pile.
I have Florida covered...49 more to go....hint.
Daily RSI now between 40 and 50.
Shell Man is here and holding long since .005!!
Hello to you to!! Gringo Joe hold!!!
So now we have the financial ability to get the quarterly financials fast tracked to an accounting firm who can get KNOS's quarterly report out and in line with all SEC regulations.
Reverse merger? Would not be out of the question. It would take Harrington's company public without the red tape and now a 500 million dollar company KNOS could move to the NASDAQ....speculation IMO but Harrington is not here to earn a few grand.
KNOS will be ALL OVER HIS INFORERCIALS. It will be nice to see those air filters turned on with the air gauge showing how far down it kills particles!!
So now we also have his revenue to fast track the FDA application as well!!!
Soon to come is our former Lt. Governor from Ohio's first contract too!!!
KNOS on informercials for free advertising and domonstrations!!!!
ETRF on level two on the ask.
Two trades just now. Someone on the bid is panicking
1000 Don't let it run
100 I need shares
I think its delayed partiially because they want to get the FDA letter out and maybe its not complete yet. Also going current is probably delaying it. They want to be sure accounting is correct so they would have needed to hire an accountant who is ensuring financials are correct and within SEC regualtions. So to be absolutely sure I just think they have the extra time so they will use it for those and more puroposes. IMO.
Winna "WinnathePOOOOO"
You have been bashing this stock since .005.
You contintue to provide negative infomration with no fundamental supporting of your claims.
In general you come off as highly ignorant and like a liger...yes a mix of a tiger and a lion...as in you simply are not relevant to any form of discussion.
Hey Mr. Jeff "Cool" Train.
Your out of line!!
And YOU know it!!
This company was doormant for years and you are citing those doormant years.
Air5G and all productes are in production and with the addition of Ms. Taylor they have the revenue of a 37million dollar a year company as well as the inside track on State Government Contracts.
They also have a DUNS number for DoD and Federal contracts.
I disagree. Where did you get info?
On this or just a feeling? The numbers show that have of the stock is restricted so the float is just about 750m which fine by me. With news out the the company is going to get "current" and in stage IV trials I see no danger in it dropping and being delisted. The bid support at .0002 is huge and with any news we should see up ticks.
Do you have any info on a RS? Or just being wary?
Hello all!!! I whacked the bid at .0004 for 3 Million. I can afford to let it sit. Any news will get this going and was not going to wait on the .0003's in line and see news come out and have .0004's be a would have could have should have.
Numeeous stocks with this share structure have hit .50 it is possible. To your point though probably not sustainable and as to someone else's comment they would be very well position for a reverse merger if their trails are sucessfull
Taylor, Welty LLC, Reverse Merger?
I looked up the company they had over 37 million in revenue last year. Maybe there is a plan for a reverse merger for Welty to partner with KNOS and all of a sudden you have a 37 million dollar company that can quickly move to the NASDAQ.
Additionally with all this revenue there is no need for adding shares to the float.
Interesting thoughts about it. I have not done any research on it but it does seems to be a win win for all if this happens.
Taylor gives KNOS legitimacy.
The SEC has now halted 26 stocks based on their CV-19 claims. While it is obvious their techology kills COVID they rightly so need to be wary of any claims of it as the SEC does not need justification to halt a stock. Having a Lt. Govorner on the team shows legitimacy.
KNOS has stated they are going to request to the FDA to have their technology confirmed. Once that happens KNOS will broadly boast about it but until then legally its a very thin line.
They simply state that their filters can kill below the micron level that COVID lives at.
Interesting thought. I looked up Ms. Taylor's husband who is the CEO of Welty and their company profile of which she was also an executive of.
So Taylor's husband as someone mentioned is the CEO of Welty and they build government buildings as someone noted.
Went through their website and found the second link below with Facilities Management Services.
I am thinking there are numorous contracts getting lined up for the airfilters...wow.
https://thinkwelty.com/about/
https://thinkwelty.com/services/facilities-management-services/
Agreed i think my average is right at about .005 I dont need to long for any more on my own funds. If RSI climbs to say 90 ill sell a portion but only keep a percentage of that and save the rest to put right back in for even more shares when the RSI withdraws back to the 50's
I think they are not doing it yet. Reason being was the DECN halt. SEC does not need a reason to halt a stock and kill it. Of course I think you are right though in getting the word out. The third non affilated party option I think would be best. IMO they have that request into the FDA for the FDA to say it so they are legally in the clear. But yes to your point it is already scientifically proven. Just trying to see in their heads as to why they have not and thats what think is going on.
Uh oh!! Ihub Whale Jail?
LoL somebody wake up Whale for today's show!!!
Silent Night will take up to the/promise/land
This is their one filter which on Youtube showed it kills COVID-19.
Klonor even says it kills Conona on one of his videos from some years ago. I think Toth will know better than to say it kills it when they come out with a PR to keep the SEC away but I think he will say it kills particles down to .003 I think it was and also in the same sentance say that COVID is around .012 and leave it at that.
I also hope when they put the PR out about it they put a new youtube video demonstrating it.
.....but yes...its been sold out for about a month. With the share increase I would not mind an A/S increase to pay for production of this.
I would like to see very soon:
FDA application submitted
Silent Night back in stock
Airdog 5g stocked with Silent Night technology to get the microns killer below .0146
KNOS lets go!!
Is she Wolf Man Jack's daughter?
Your lying.
The original inventor and main brain behind the original technology(which is already 12-15 years behind the current technology curve) doesn't seem to be with the company any longer.
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If you really want an answer to that, do some serious Due diligence. I'm not going to straight up tell you there is absolutely nothing here. But IMO there are some serious red flags that would seem to scream, this is a house of cards, that is one sneeze away from collapse and put any retirement money that you care about somewhere else. And especially at these levels, only park any play money that you are willing to lose everything on, here.
Everyone, including the company, keeps preaching about all this great and wonderful proprietary patented technology Kronos company has. Study the patents, they say. Given, that current management are all approaching or multiple years past retirement age. The original inventor and main brain behind the original technology(which is already 12-15 years behind the current technology curve) doesn't seem to be with the company any longer. And as such, given that fresh patents can take years to get approved, the success and livelyhood of the company and it's business model would seem to hinge on licensing the "current" technology contained within any patents they currently have in their possession.
That said, This is a list of all of their current patents as cut and pasted from the most recent filing. Most, but not all corroborate with the list of patents listed on the company website. Each of the links below it correspond to the respective patent numbers on the list, except the first one. it actually contains a typo that changes the patent number by one digit. I corrected it so that the link takes you to the correct patent Data on the united states patent and trademark office website.
These links wont take you to the patent itself. They take you to respective pages on the official patent website that gives specific information on the current status of each patent. Once there, direct your attention to the reddish pink box on the right half of the screen, before reviewing the rest of the information on the page. Ultimately you will have to make all of your own decisions, but here is a place to start with factual due diligence...
"based on half baked dd???? GOROBETS IS/DIRECTOR!!!!
YOU HAVE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY BASED ON THAT QUOTE.
https://kronosati.co/about/corporate-governance/
My "half baked" DD consisted of going to the web site and clicking on "about us" and seeing GOROBETS AS THE DIRECTOR!!!
You insult me as doing "half baked" DD and then try to justify your position when all I did was in one minute find out you were LYING on your previous post????
How many hours of research did you do after writing that first line? After insulting me and my "half baked" DD???? I actually tried to read your PASSIVE WRITING THAT LEADS TO NOWHERE AND IS SO CONFUSING ITS JUST GARBLE..
Well that is a little awkward now, isn't it? Unfortunately an all caps declaration, based on half baked due diligence just wont change the historical facts. Always best to cross reference information when it comes to pennies I learned that lesson long ago. Especially when offered by sales marketers.
They very recently increased the A/S to 2 billion shares, so as share price hovers 1200% or more off relatively recent lows. If that isn't an invitation for SEC halt when they have been shutting down everything questionable that mentions Covid19 and chases news trends(masks were added to the website, right on que), not sure what is.
Someone presented a sincere query in regards to something as important as a retirement fund in times of financial Perils. I provided an honest answer based on my view of publicly available true grit evidence. And reminded them to follow up with their own due diligence before making their own financial decisions. rationalizing stock investments on half baked due diligence, is everyone personal perogative. But it wont change apparent facts based on evidence, even if this hits a dollar over persistent hype.
And it may, although recent trading action seems to indicate that the manipulation sweet spot has been from .01-.03. And even if the current float has all been bought up by stary eyed hopefuls. CFGN is hanging in the back ground and although we wont know for sure until they update the S/S, but the A/S increase to 2billion shares last Wed. or thurs. is an irrefutable fact. So the S/S is now far from maxed out and with $215K in active convertible debt on the books, and $1.25 million convertible in the pipeline dilution is plausible at any time now.
That said, here is the evidence I found that seems to refute your in depth analysis of key officers here... You can interpret any way you like, or even ignore it and blame the market if you keep buying this up to profit others and it all falls apart or gets suspended before you get out. I'm stuck in the house with little to do. So fact finding exercises my mind...
First, a few key excerpts from the most recent BOD letter. everything here was cut and pasted verbatim from company documentation. And original text can all be found in filings or PRs, with exception of commentary added with color altered so it is easily identifiable. So sorry for lengthiness, but I tried to insure nothing was taken out of context, so therefore copied everything that seemed relevant to its purpose...
Quote:
This is also a new beginning for a more active public investor relations process that Kronos is implementing to not only keep our shareholders current on recent developments but to provide more transparency of the Company where it can more accurately and adequately be discussed in public forums.
Our new Application and Product Development Team is now led by Dr. Gorobets and COO Julius Toth. We believe the skill base of this Team better positions the Company to apply the Kronos technology directly to the design, development and assembly of Kronos products. A key component of the Kronos technology is the electronics used to generate and manage the high voltage field, to ensure the safety of the product and to allow the user to maximize the air movement, filtration and sterilization capability of the Kronos technology.(See original team upon which this statement was made within second quote below... )
We believe that the potential for Kronos patented technology to be incorporated into other products - making those products better, more efficient and more effective -is vast. Kronos embedded patented applications platform offers an unmatched range of opportunities from commercial and residential air movement and filtration products to military applications on ships and submarines to transportation, products including airplanes and automobiles, to cooling microprocessors. (If these patents are owned and controlled by a seperate and unrelated entity, wouldn't that seem to create a legal issue if the current owner is not Kronos, and pursues infringement lawsuit?)
Residential and Commercial Products: To exploit the Kronos technology in the embedded commercial and residential marketplace, Kronos strategy is twofold: (i) actively seek one or more strategic partners to develop, manufacture and market embedded air purifiers and (ii) design and develop larger size devices for customer testing and evaluation
In order to effectively market and distribute the Kronos technology to the embedded commercial and residential markets, Kronos is planning to initiate discussions with various suppliers of commercial, industrial and residential air movement and filtration products to license our Companys unique patented technology. These suppliers tend to be large multi-national companies with global product development and production, marketing, sales and/or distribution capability.(What company is going to license technology from Kronos, unless Kronos is rightful owner in full control the relevant patents. No relevant patents would seem to equal no leverage here, wouldn't it?)
Along with increased IAQ awareness is an increase in the consumer's understanding of effective and ineffective air purifiers and some of the potentially harmful side effects of some of these products sold in the market today. For example, highlighted in the latest 2020 Consumer Reports, ionizing air cleaners could expose users to lung-damaging levels of ozone, a normal bi-product of ion based electrostatic air filters.(funny they should bring that up. Receiving the exact same treatment as the other 48 units tested; The Airdog X5(AIR 5G) branded unit was put through Consumer Report's standardized 100 point unbiased testing routine, and it received a very mediocre 53 out of 100 performance points. And ranked by points received, it came in 22nd out of 49 different air purifiers tested. And was noted to be amongst the highest price tags of all 49 units) and Kronos has demonstrated the ability to minimize the production of ozone to safe levels acceptable to the most stringent requirements of the Environmental Protection Agency and in accordance with Underwriters Laboratory standards. Kronos' innovative solution for generating highly dense ion production necessary to move and purify large volumes of air while ensuring a limited ozone concentration is well within the "Good" range (as defined by the EPA) and creates a distinct competitive advantage for Kronos air purifiers.
Under the leadership of our Senior Technology Adviser, Dr.Vladimir Gorobets, Kronos continues to seek out innovative ways to improve on the core Kronos technology, as well as new and innovative applications for our proprietary technology. This effort includes filing of new patent applications. He was employed as a Senior Engineer with Kronos from 2000 to 2008 and was the lead inventor and responsible for the majority of Companys issued patents. His IP portfolio includes 41 patents and publications, including 12 US patents and 22 International patents.(well this is a little awkward. It's Compelling rhetoric, but previous management seemed to have a different perception of Dr. Gorobets rank and file within the company. See original management's perception found within second quote below.)
And a few key quotes from ANNUAL REPORT UNDER SECTION 13 OR 15(d) OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934 For the fiscal year ended June 30, 2008 and a portion of the original shareholder letter upon which this recent shareholder letter was based(Link to this letter can be found in the previous post to which you responded)...
Quote:
On October 24, 2008, the Company terminated the employment of all of its employees except for Mr. Tusing and Igor Krichtafovitch, its Chief Technology Officer.(***For some strange reason previous management must have missed that memo, and appears to have retained a subordinate over the seniority of Mr. Gorobets) As a result of the Company’s financial condition, it has temporarily ceased substantially all of its operating activities. Kronos is focused on prioritizing its limited resources on either selling or licensing the Company’s technology or liquidating the assets of the Company.
Possible future impairment of intangible assets would have a material adverse effect on our financial condition.
Our net intangible assets of approximately $1.5 million as of June 30, 2008, consist principally of purchased patent technology and marketing intangibles, which relate to the acquisition of Kronos Air Technologies, Inc. in March 2000 and to the acquisition of license rights to fuel cell, computer and microprocessor applications of the Kronos technology not included in the original acquisition of Kronos Air Technologies, Inc. in May 2003 and capitalized legal costs for securing patents. Intangible assets comprise 58% of our total assets as of June 30, 2008. Intangible assets are subject to periodic review and consideration for potential impairment of value. Among the factors that could give rise to impairment include a significant adverse change in legal factors or in the business climate, an adverse action or assessment by a regulator, unanticipated competition, a loss of key personnel, and projections or forecasts that demonstrate continuing losses associated with these assets. In the case of our intangible assets, specific factors that could give rise to impairment would be, but are not limited to, an inability to obtain patents, the untimely death or other loss of Dr. Igor Krichtafovitch, the lead inventor of the Kronos technology and Kronos Air Technologies Chief Technology Officer(***Look, another blunder on previous management's gross oversight of Dr. Gorobets merits. They seemed to have perceived Igor Krichtafovitch as lead inventor. And oddly, this doesn't say if Igor dies, lets call back our secret weapon Vladimir. Without actually stating it, it flat out acknowledges, if Igor dies, we're hosed), or the ability to create a customer base for the sale Kronos-based products. Should an impairment occur, we would be required to recognize it in our financial statements. A write-down of these intangible assets could have a material adverse impact on our total assets, net worth and results of operations.
Our common stock is deemed to be "penny stock," subject to special requirements and conditions and may not be a suitable investment.
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from June 21, 2005 letter to shareholders...
Electronics Development Team: A key component of the Kronos technology is the
electronics used to generate and manage the high voltage field, to ensure the
safety of the product and to allow the user to maximize the air movement,
filtration and sterilization capability of the Kronos technology. Kronos has
recently combined our electronics team (Messrs. Bibikov, Krichtafovitch,
O'Harah, and Ziomkowski)(Not seeing Mr Gorobets name here. so was not even a part of that team, let alone leader of it) with the design and product development resources of
Tech En, Inc. (a contract design firm that specializes in refinement of existing
electronic products). This combination of skills and resources has resulted in
Kronos reducing the size of the power supply by one half and the number of
components by one third compared to our first generation electronics. This
effort not only translates directly into lower cost, but allows Kronos to
develop even smaller size air movement, filtration and sterilization devices.
As the awareness of Indoor Air Quality (IAQ) continues to grow and people become
more aware that the hazards of poor IAQ goes beyond just dust particles, Kronos
is seeking to establish an industry leadership position in setting the standard
for biohazard, bacteria and virus removal from the air stream we breath. Led by
Dr. Vladimir Gorobets, our Senior Engineer, Kronos' is obtaining further
verification of our product claims platform through university, government,
commercial and other independent testing sources.(So not saying it wasn't important, but as an engineer that understood the mechanics of Igor's inventions, essentially, his role seems to have been public relations with testing facillities according to this excerpt. I tried to find a more complete description of his overall role but haven't found anything solid yet)
Some other links that seem to dispute Dr. gorobets position as Chief Technology officer and lead inventor...(scroll to bottom of each page to reveal the reality)...
https://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/211803
https://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/211799
https://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/211805
https://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/211801
If you are still having doubts, the information on the USPTO is probably the most reliable. I tried to create links, but it is set up as a portal into their data base, so direct link to relevant information regarding inventorship was not an option. As an alternative I took two random screenshots, that can be found within the same link from previous post. Take a closer look at the very top of the two, blue text on white background images where it says "Inventor".
And if you follow the assignments, you will discover that one of the two was actually patented by Igor completely independent of the company and later assigned as was probably sold to the company. And if you go to the bottom of each of those documents, you will discover the final Assignee, which represents the current rightful owner in full control of respective patents. Neither of which are Kronos advanced technologies.
Although as a senior engineer he played some sort a role in these patents, and is listed on most of the company patents as secondary inventor, I am not seeing: PATENT OWNER VLADIMIR GOROBETS, PHD DIRECTOR's name listed anywhere as inventor, let alone current owner/assignee any more than Kronos advanced technologies is documented current owner on any of the Kronos technology in the patent office's database.
And since a company can't license patents that they don't own. And Kronos entire business model is 100% reliant on full ownership in control of their own patented technology with a paid up current status at the patent office. To in turn, license said Kronos core patented technology to other companies for royalty profits, as is implicated in multiple locations of the most recent B.O.D. letter.
So yes this would seem to present a huge obstacle for the company to pursue large government contracts here.link to previous postthat clarifies ownership details of at least two of the claimed "company owned" patents. Its pretty much the same story all the way down the line and is all free to view on the USPTO database, if you are truly interested in the probable reality here. And until something changes on the USPTO data base or they present verifiable documentation to refute the USPTO's reflected status of all of their patents, facts are facts.
To demonstrate the probable reality here with a case in point of what they do or don't actually own. One really doesn't need to look any further than the first paragraph of the latest Airdog agreement PR and follow a basic lines of logic...
Quote:
KRONOS ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES INC ANNOUNCES EXCLUSIVE MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION AGREEMENT FOR A NEW LINE OF AIR DISINFECTION PRODUCTS Press Release | 04/08/2020
Los Angeles , CA, April 08, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Los Angeles, California /GLOBENEWSWIRE/- April 8, 2020 -KRONOS ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES, Inc., (OTC:KNOS) ("KNOS" or the "Company") a proprietary product development and production company that has significantly changed the way air is moved, filtered and sterilized announced today it has secured exclusive North and South American production and distribution rights for an air purification and disease destruction product line that utilizes the Kronos(R) CORE technology that has been developed by Kronos to produce, market and distribute commercial and residential air purification products, bacteriological and virus destruction devices. The agreement provides Kronos with the exclusive license to manufacture, use and sell these products in the Americas. The first products are scheduled to launch this month with some already available via www.shop.kronosati.co
OK, So dumb question on my part here... Don't you find it a little peculiar that Kronos has licensed their own technology from another company instead of licensing Kronos technology to the other company? I mean, If Kronos owns, or controls the proprietary CORE technology utilized in this product agreement, shouldn't they be the ones issuing the license for the other company's opportunity to use Kronos technology in airdog product? Rather than receiving a license to pay royalty profits to Airdog, for the privilege of manufacturing and selling someone else's product that contains Kronos own technology in a globally limited territory? What am I missing here?
That said, given all this misleading information issued in the face of promised transparency by expert marketers and previous use of wordplay to bolster a reality, IE Dr. Gorobets historical position and horsepower, implicated current and fully owned status of historical technology, etc.
I would also question the actual terms of this supposed "exclusive" distribution agreement without explicit clarification from the company. A one liner from the same PR..
Quote:
These products are being marketed under trademarks, KRONOS® AIR 5G® and AIRDOG®
Outwardly, this whole PR seems to imply something wonderful, and a quick read would seem to imply that Airdog is now handing off the distribution of all it's north and south america wholesale accounts to Kronos. For a ready made high flow revenue stream. However the exclusivity attached to the agreement may only encompass the less desireable of two entirely different potential scenarios. The loudest siren I'm hearing seems to be the use of the word "and" instead of "or", in the above quote.
Strategically placed, the word "and" could actually be a limitation in stead of a freedom. For example, Kronos may only carry this exclusive distribution rights on a manufacturer recognized rebrand of airdog products possessing all three trademarks simultaneously. And not the seemingly implied entire airdog Americas inventory distribution channel, under the terms of the agreement.
Especially since AirdogUSA, already utilizes a very large ecommerce Global distributor to fulfill global wholesale orders. As a matter of fact, since the agreement included a defined territory, it may actually just glorify a territorial restriction; moreso than protect a territory from manufacturer competition of the same product under it's original x5 name.
Whereby airdog may have agreed to not allow other x5 re-brands in Kronos territory, but retain the right to their own distribution channels of the original x5 branded models in the same space. All the while restricting Kronos from selling their Kronos re-brand outside of the americas, in say China, India or Europe.
The word "or" on the other hand would have defined an absolute, within the agreement. Whereby any item marked with any combination of the three trademarks would require any sales of Airdog products sold anywhere in north or south America to first pass through the Kronos distribution channel for a percentage of sale.
So what is the reality? Don't know for sure, until it gets definitively clarified by the company, manufacturer, or we see sales or lack thereof reflected in future filings to support or refute it. And is something I personally have no interest in pursuing.
But, I would say, these are coming from china, most likely in 40 foot freight containers if they are bulk. And since a distributor is generally responsible for distribution logistics of breaking down a freight container into smaller shipments to wholesalers or retailers, which is how a distributor makes their money, it would seem a somewhat challanging task to take on, in a 500 square foot second floor office suite or a U-store locker, and I haven't seen any PR to indicate that they have secured a larger warehouse. If you have found evidence of such a company commitment, please share.
But given all the other nails in the KNOS tire and their track record of misleading information, I personally would tend to believe the former scenario, before giving credence to the latter. Not to mention, wholesale Lots of most all of Airdog's products are available and ready to ship on a Global distributor's website. And Although I didn't open an account to see if it fulfills, but when I put US, and Brazil as shipping destinations, it didn't deny my query as unavailable destinations.
And for any that read this and may be sincerely interested in knowing the current status of Kronos proprietary technology patents according to USPTO, as it pertains to info above. they are listed in the same order as they appear in the patent section of latest filing. And the link takes you directly to the USPTO database for individual patent status.
link to Patent 7,410,532 ; link to patent 7,262,564 ; link to patent 7,248,003 ; link to patent 7,122,070 ; link to patent 7,150,780 ; link to patent 7,053,565 ; link to patent 6,963,479 ; link to patent 6,937,455 ; link to patent 6,888,314 ; link to patent 6,727,657 ; link to patent 6,664,741
It was nice Clay Trader did not show up on Friday
He was very busy with other stocks hopefully he won't show up after tomorrow's close.
IMO he gives good technical advices but an effect of that is that the shorts and naked shorts follow him....not nice.
https://microcapdaily.com/the-inside-scoop-on-kronos-advanced-technologies-inc-otcmkts-knos/125433/
This was from early March but would love to see an update!!!!
PATENT OWNER VLADIMIR GOROBETS, PHD DIRECTOR!!!!
Not only is he still with the company he is the DIRECTOR
https://kronosati.co/about/corporate-governance/
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If you really want an answer to that, do some serious Due diligence. I'm not going to straight up tell you there is absolutely nothing here. But IMO there are some serious red flags that would seem to scream, this is a house of cards, that is one sneeze away from collapse and put any retirement money that you care about somewhere else. And especially at these levels, only park any play money that you are willing to lose everything on, here.
Everyone, including the company, keeps preaching about all this great and wonderful proprietary patented technology Kronos company has. Study the patents, they say. Given, that current management are all approaching or multiple years past retirement age. The original inventor and main brain behind the original technology(which is already 12-15 years behind the current technology curve) doesn't seem to be with the company any longer. And as such, given that fresh patents can take years to get approved, the success and livelyhood of the company and it's business model would seem to hinge on licensing the "current" technology contained within any patents they currently have in their possession.
That said, This is a list of all of their current patents as cut and pasted from the most recent filing. Most, but not all corroborate with the list of patents listed on the company website. Each of the links below it correspond to the respective patent numbers on the list, except the first one. it actually contains a typo that changes the patent number by one digit. I corrected it so that the link takes you to the correct patent Data on the united states patent and trademark office website.
These links wont take you to the patent itself. They take you to respective pages on the official patent website that gives specific information on the current status of each patent. Once there, direct your attention to the reddish pink box on the right half of the screen, before reviewing the rest of the information on the page. Ultimately you will have to make all of your own decisions, but here is a place to start with factual due diligence...