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Ellis...while I hope that all the longs reap insane profits from this stock....I believe it is sane to approach IDCC, as you express, in the conservative expectation manner...We have been led down the path of promised high stock prices before...and where are we now...IDCC has done very well in a bad market...but not at 100 or 250. IDCC stock price and management must lead the way, until the Kings say something everything on this board is pure speculation.
I need an Alley dose!!! Not that today wasn't a good day...but I need confirmation that I can feel good about it.
Data,Oso...notice the section above on MSN money dated Analyst FYI Alert 4/15/03
What does that mean: IDCC beat earnings estimate??? How would they know.
OK..OK..sheesh..sorry, I knew that...just thought teecee was referring to something other than that...btw..is there anyway IDCC would revise earnings estimate upward between now and then??
Teecee...why three weeks???eom
Waiting for Big Bang...it just seems as though everything through out the past several years with IDCC has been implicit and covert. Ericy was just a teaser. I get the sense IDCC is heading toward a crescendo...I am just wondering what it is and when. When will IDCC unveil itself to be a player in wireless?? What is it going to take for IDCC management to start really playing the PR game.
mschere...yes that would be significant. don't get me wrong...I am just attempting to figure out what we are realistically looking at for Q1.
Revlis...what is a blow out quarter??? Could you tell me in revenue and/or earnings per share?? TIA
OT:What a Maroon...from Bugs Bunny!!
Dish...it was stated a long time ago on the old RB Club that Ericy and IDCC were talking to each other, and I believe working with each other on 3G, even in the midst of the upcoming infringement trial. The watershed may very well be coming, and perhaps you are right about with who. Just wondering what factors have put off the 3G agreement to this point with Ericy.
Teecee, I don't have options...just because I am miffed about this settlement doesn't mean I have a short term outlook.
I had options once with this stock. That was pre-motorola verdict...good thing it wasn't for a lot of money. Lesson learned.
As I said sorry you get pissed about my questions. Still long.
Hey Teecee...great advice. Thanks. It is really not rhetoric. Actually, I would like to hear ideas from the board of "why" the timing of March 17. Especially when it could have been settled before the trial delay in January?? Think back to the run up in Nov. to 19.50 after Harris...and for that matter there is still no Harris decision. Just trying to piece it all together...and actually hoping that there is more to this.
Sorry if I piss you off for asking the questions.
Ellis...hopefully they just got bought out.eom
L2V, but then where is the 3G agreement w/Ericy...it seems that IDCC didn't get something for giving something.
So,where is the Ericy 3G agreement...if they were going to settle for 58 million anyway, why not wait until the end of the month or May 10th. Why March 17th for 58 Million after 10+ years... What was it that made IDCC settle now??? Someone has got to know.
Teecee and others: in your opinion, what was the cause for the run up in December 99?? Was it the bubble and the CNBC hype about baby qualcomm?? or was there something else going on? Like rumors of a settlement or buyout??
Hey RTD,
I appreciate your message...and we very well may break 20 in the next 10 days. For me and I am sure most of us, a high stock price is key...but I still have to wonder, if we settled with Ericy, where is IDCCs payoff from Ericy??? and why we haven't seen it yet. 58M over 4 years for SONY and Sony/Ericy doesn't make sense. The 3G deal has to be right now, this week to replace what we gave away.
Anyway I am a very patient person. Thanks for the advice. Best to you.
Nieves...my can't break 20 post was in response to Manx' should be at 70+ by now. Like Mshere, I follow your posts also. I just don't get this settlement.
I have watched all of you guys post for years on RB, RB Club, Yahoo and IHUB. It has been a long time. Why would IDCC settle now??? for $ 58 million dispersed over 4 years. IDCC should, at least, get it all NOW. I am just wondering what is looming in the background. Was IDCC the underdog going into the trial? or did IDCC have the upperhand??
RTD...my alias has always been the same whatever board. I am not a basher of IDCC. I have never been short. I have been long since 1996. I have never been on margin with IDCC. I am just pissed that's all...I just don't get it. Yeah, yeah, I get the moving forward thing, blah, blah. It doesn't bother you? Here we go, we settle with Ericy for 58 million...why couldn't they pay that NOW. Plus, we settle with them...and I would expect something the next day about 3G. I just don't get going 10 years for this settlement. I want 20, and 50 and 100. I just think IDCC got screwed, I want to see some follow through.
Mschere...with all due respect...I dig your posts and dedication to IDCC...I read your posts all the time. But, 1st quarter isn't done yet, so I can't comment...we have nothing truly concrete. I think what they stated during the conference call is very impressive and I am sure it will be even better than they stated.
I am just wickedly disappointed in this settlement. Makes no sense to me and I would appreciate some clarity from IDCC. Why would they wait 10 years to settle 60 days before trial?? Especially with an industry co-conspirator that tried to bury them? What disturbs me is that we will never know why they took it on the chin?
There is a piece missing and it shouldn't take this long to wait to find out, especially if Ericy is full of integrity and we wanted to work with them?? What is going on??
Ericy hoped IDCC would die and actually conspired to kill IDCC for 10+ years...but now Ericy is full of integrity??? What would make IDCC settle for nothing, on the eve of potential vindication, after years of getting beat on?? I don't think we will ever know. All shareholders should be very p-o'd right now.
I predict no news until the week before sharehold mtg
Guess what, it can't break 20.
The conference call was a grin and take it like a man show...Hey congratulations for gettin a-f'd for ten plus years and then saying "these guys are great and full of integrity". IDCC show me that you got some testes left. Man, c'mon show me you didn't get the #$%& kicked out of you. Show me, you at least tried to throw one f'in punch.
10+ years for what???? The entire Swedish government is laughing their asses off. You know what, they are going to sell this company for $25 a share. They are wacked. Please tell me why you wait for 10+ years for piss. They could have gotten piss a couple of years ago, which today may be worth more money.
Somebody give me a concrete answer as to why they did this. Facts only please. No rah, rah, BS as always. I hope they have news by Friday, because this is piss poor.
Jaykay...truly awesome...with info like that you just have to wonder why this has been going on so long.
Emotionally, I should crawl up in the fetal position and suck my thumb for couple of months. Sounds good....ah to be a kid again.
Hello. Hello. Just waiting for HRS/Ericy ruling, oh, and just waiting for us to open up a whole lotta whoop-ass, and I can't wait until France gets thrown into some economic turmoil because all their business went away with the ruling scumbags in Iraq.
Boogie...
Here's to hope'n you got that all right!!!
Party on Garth!!!!
Osoesq...i just noticed your last line in your post about Judge Lynn making the HRS decision weeks ago. And you say that becauzzzzz...you know it, or you would expect it just because of a reasonable time table expectation??? Thank you.
HRS/Ericy decision is taking a long time. I don't think anything can happen with IDCC/Ericy until HRS comes to a conclusion\final ruling. I wonder what is going on in Dallas.
Hey Mschere....two weeks before April 7th and then I would say it would be a least two weeks before that to get the final copy edited/approved and printed. I am looking at week ending...hmmm...next week, maybe the week after.
HARRIS decision taking a long time!eom
Why even have an earnings conference call...oh yeah, because the price needs to go down further....shhh...no questions...I'm sorry what were IDCC's goals for 2002....shhh...don't want to ask that question. PAthetic. Yeah, everyone, will just listen and find something positive...was there anything actually accomplished in 2002...well anything positive???
Plmfn...I am sure Mickey is stewing right now...for whatever reason...I believe he's disappointed...my guess is that he heard a pretty good substantiated rumor that there was a settlement offer on Harry's desk...so he probably thought is was a done deal...my guess is that Harry didn't sign...hence there rumor didn't become actual. I am sure he is PO'd...like all of us...we just want to move forward and get Ericy behind us.
I also recall JPoint stating that Nokia II rate wasn't tied to Ericy....yeah, right!!!
I expect: That IDCC will drop through to a lower level and possibly settle in the $ 7.5 to $ 8. Why??? Well because some huge players want it that way. It is not the shorts. I believe there is cooperation. It has happened way to often. The price inexplicably goes up...nothing of consequence comes to fruition...it hits 19.5...then starts to settle back down...we start seeing insiders sell...bammm.....a little more insider selling....bammm.....trial delay.....bamm, bamm....Samsung Arbitration not resolved to IDCC's liking....bamm....NEC payment pushed to January....bamm.....stupid settlement rumor not coming through.....bamm......and ultimately, disappointing earnings....bamm, bamm....Same old, same old and probably some other stupid news/release to send lower...bamm But some just keep on rolling in some dough. Same old, same old. Hope I am wrong....but I have seen it so many times. But, even the brightest on this board believe the Kings are doing there best...same old...same old. Just don't ask any questions at the earnings conference call....wouldn't want that to happen.
Hoboso...I wonder what their opinions are of things...I truly hope they have faith and trust their leaders...they would know best.
BTW...did we really think that anything would happen before Harris/Ericy is concluded. Ericy won't settle with IDCC until the damage decision is made/settled in the Harris/Ericy case, because Ericy doesn't want to possibly give IDCC too much, if the amount is lowered or settled for lower w/Harris...plus if Ericy settles with IDCC for a boatload, wouldn't that possibly taint the Judge's decision in the Harris case and also give Harris negotiating amo. Harris has to be concluded first. Anyway that is MHO.
In re to Mickey: He is probably taking a little break...how long can one individual go on being as enthusiastic and optimistic about a company that continually shows no substantial progress. Mickey has been waiting a long time...he wouldn't risk all on a rumor...He will be back and hopefully as forceful and ferocious as ever.