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,,,,the irony is they should be buying instead of selling,,,,,,, this is the same program/script when DFCT announced they were out of business in the paper industry,,,,everyone thought bankruptcy was next,,,,,,within three months the stock was $1.85 on the rumors of the Dichain merger,,,,,,,nobody lets go of these shell companies,,,,,,,they are vehicles to print money for the chinese,,,,,,a legal license to get rich overnight,,,,,,,,,
montello
,,,,you are very close to the timeline of events, sorta,,,the parties had been in breech of their agreements during 2004 and intitiated lawsuits with each other,,,and finally on January of this year they decided to settle by breaking the deal, and giving back the stock paid for the pharmacy/research hospital actually,,there fore the company had no legal sales,,,,at the moment it is a shell corporation,,,,with some quarter million of debt,,,,it still can trade as such,,,, and you all can be sure the chinese will not waste the shell company , you see they filed again,,,, they will find another profit center to merge with,,,,maybe not pharma this time,,, odds are it will not be a pharma deal ,,,,
,,,, your in shock richard,(alan) ,,,you dont get it yet,,,there is no pharma in cpicf,,,,,,the deal was aborted long time ago,,,,,,,
,,,its the reason Aaron left the company,,,he had no shares in dichain to speak of ,,,,,his reward was the million shares equal with Fan in CPIC,,,,,when the deal went sour,,,,,,he knew he had nothing,,,,,so he moved on,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,no of course not ,,,CPICF,,,,has value,,,,it is a shell company,,,,,and Fan will attempt to put another profit center into it,,,,probably working a deal as we speak,,,,,,,,its the nature of the chinese to build wealth with these reverse mergers,,,with limited disclosure they have a legal license to print their own money in the form of stock certificates,,,,,,,,,look how much time has lapsed before the truth came to the surface, Fan got away from telling shareholders of CPICE for months now,,,,,,,,,,in a way it was how all of us in DFCT got trapped in CTGLF after the delisting,,,the apparent problem was cureable so most did not sell,,,,,but what was apparent was not the real issue and violation of the rules and with the news blackout the stock fell long before anyone new the real deal,,,,,,,,,and it was not to go unpunished by the hearing committee of nasdaq,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,i have already posted ,,,,beware of otc,bb companies in china,,,,,the chinese will do what they want till they get caught,,,,CTGLF was never destined to be otc,bb ,,,it was a fluke,,,,,stay with listed ADR companies on NYSE and NASDAQ at worst,,,or by a basket with ETF`S ( exchanged traded funds ) to capture China growth,,,,,,,,,CTGLF IS ONE OF A FEW EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE,,,,,,,,,
,,,the fact of the change of auditors is partly a reflection of a variety of issues that are clouded,,,,,,CTGLF lent monies to CPICF for operations,,,,,,,is there a disaster like this in store for CTGLF ,,,,emphatic NO,,,,,totally different deals and unrelated except that is was Fan`s deal,,,,,,,,( every promoter has deals fall apart like this,,,,,,some work some dont,,,,,
,,,for these reasons i have attended shareholder meetings and have had lawyers present when critical issues were presented and made a point in dealing with Fan face to face on occasions,,,,,,
,,,CTGLF has always seemed clean to me allthough they were paranoid about controll of the company in the future and issued more shares ( 122 million ) than was neccessary,,,,,,,,misjudgements of Fan about our markets and his administration abilities are something still to be desired !!!!
,,,these issues do not over shadow,,,,,the great story Fan has going with this company (CTGLF) and its parent (CMG) connections to the ministry of communications,,,( its tantamount to a monopoly ),,,, and monopolies are rare in the universe of stocks around the world,,,,,let alone in China,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,its very ugly ,,,,,but i warned the people on this board in previous posting to stay away from it,,,,,,alan likes to post here about ctglf,so he can tout other stocks he plays,,,he thinks its clever,,,,but transparent when you read all his posts,,,,,he knows better !!!!,,,,,he can stand losses anyway,,,,but maybe his friends can not,,,,
,,,,its a long story,,,,,,too long ,,,,,,,but now alan will understand why Aaron Zhu left the company,,,,he was a equal shareholder in the reverse merger of Rexford with FAN ,,,also the old CFO of DFCT before the name changed to CTGLF,,,,,
,,,, the bottom line is the merger had to be aborted,,,,there is no pharma operation in CPICF,,,,,,
,,,when alan wakes from the shock,,,,he should fume a little,,,hehe
,,,,,,,,,WOW,,,,,,,,,,what a ,,,, SHOCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
,,,none went to jail to my knowledge , they all escaped a bullet in the head also to my knowledge,,,,,chinese shoot thieves without much fanfare if they choose,,,,,,hehe,,,,,but must be more serious than the toilet paper scam of DFCT,,,,
,,,Dransfield Holdings had many thieves affiliated to it,,,including the one which case just dismissed/ or lost in the hong kong court without merits,,,,,,,,,,,you posted its results,,,,,
,,,untill this recent verdict in court ,,,this probably was the first time Fan could legally get Dransfield out of his companies,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,i have no clue to that issue,,,,,untill recent declarations by eddie yu about how many shares are left to be absorbed by selling entities,,,,,,i have been under the asssumption the squadrum limited were friendly insiders, after all they bought 2.1 million dollars of stock at .40 cents,,,,and recieve around 5 million shares of restricted stock for them , the rest is free trading stock from the DFCT days, which accounts for the total estimates above posted by Fan in one of the filings as of Sept,30 ,2004,,,,,,,,,,,so its still a mystery to the sales of shares if its not naked shorting ,,,,,,,,,and eddie yu has not been forthright about these share issues,,,if as its stated he has access to shareholder lists provided by the transfer agent upon request,,,,,,,,
,,,its not rocket science the shift in share counts regardless of the problem of short term street names,,,,,( brokers keep our shares in street name so they can make more money on us,,,in addition to use them for shorting purposes,,,,however they must report the amount we hold to transfer agent,,,so ultimately companies know who and how many shares are held by each or us and our nominees,,,(otherwise you could never have a shareholder count on issues brought to us by management)
,,,,no one ever said investors were buying the stock,,,,,the implication was that company proxies were accumulating the stock,,,,,you and others have not got it yet,,,,,,,yesterday was a prime example,,,,over 300,000 shares were sold at the bid,,,,who on earth do you think bought that stock,,,,,as is the case on most days,,,,,,it is not the market makers nor retail investors,,as alan would like you all to believe,,, the stock would be at a penny now if "someone" was not supporting it besides retail investors,,,that support translates into the accumulation trend you see on the charts,,,,,indeed retail investors buy some stock from time to time,,,but it is the exception to the consistant absorbtion of the shares at the bid ,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,dovidrich,,,,,,,,your thinking is scrambled ,,,and it always has been wrong headed,,,,,,,,,,if you have not got the insight by now,,,,,,,why are you still here !!!!!!!!!!!!
,,,,no,,,,, it is not what i said,,,,the seller has to be a member of Squadrum Limited group,,,,,,they are the only legit holders of free trading stock part of the old DFCT,,,,the rest have to file with the SEC if they want to make sales either as an insider or as a holder of over 5 percent of the outstanding stock issued,,,and we would know who they are,,,,,,,,,that is not the case with the present seller/shorter,,whichever it is,,,,,in fact it may be just a simple game between MM`s ,,,NITE has been caught and fined before for similiar activities,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,Dransfield had stock,,,however one has to assume they have been exhausted long time ago,,,the filing for sale of the shares was over 15 months ago,,,this does not mean that Dransfield does not know how to do naked shorting,,they have been players in public companies for years,,,,,,,,but i have no proof it goes on,,,,,,,,
,,, i do know that something is amiss with the amount of shares being sold daily over the months,,,,,,and i have been loud about it for months !!!!!!
,,, the only way to make sense of all the selling is with a shareholder list,,,,,,,which we are not allowed access too,,,,,,no CEO in his right mind would give a shareholder access to it,,,,yet that is where the real answers lie,,,,i have been hoping notes to the financials might give up some clues,,,,,,but of course the delay keeps the mystery alive,,,
,,,,tommy i suggest you have JT delete that comment,,,has no place on this board ,,,and the chinese all read these comments , whether you believe they do or not,,,,,,,,,
,,,the simple answer is it is not easy to dispose of problems, if they are hostile to your programs,,,,,people who own share interest can not be removed at the whim of management,,,,,sometimes they go away,,,,sometimes they do not get solved,,,,,
,,,RE; the e-commerce center here in San Leandro is managed by Dr. Fan`s wife,,,,( little known factoid ),,,,she is an american citizen and lives here,,,,,(your conclusion of Fan`s frequent visits are correct),,,,,
,,,RE; Dransfield has always been a thorn in the mix of the Dichain group,,,,( their stock in CTGLF probably has been exhausted),,,,
,,,RE: Financials,,,,,i have suggested many times that the delays of filings due to (technical difficulties) partly relates to the mixture of revenues between dichain asia/ dichain holdings / and CTGLF,,,,(there are many grey area`s that are not cookie cutter answers under sarbanes/oxley,,,,,,,,,( that is one of the reasons for the change of auditors )
,,,it is the address of the e-commerce profit center here in california,,,
,,,,well that is an open question right now JT,,,,will see how they plan things,,,,as i am sure they would rather someone besides me or my lawyers show up this time around,,,,,,
,,,,i do not feel the need to monitor them so closely anymore for any chicanery,,,,
,,, but i am pleased to hear people expressing confidence in your interactive exchanges with company officials
,,,,slow and methodical,,,are just words,,,,but it is a reality important for westerners to absorb,,,,,,,,,,by the way JT the article on RFID posted today is a prime insight into this companies future and an important piece of research ,,, you might make that article available on your site for quick access to people scanning the company looking for reasons to buy CT stock,,,,thx to the individual who dug it out,,,,,
,,,,i am posting this link again so their is no doubt about one of my favorite resources,,,,,
http://www.chinastockblog.com/
,,,,actually anchor your right on the proper strategy for most investors,,,interested in China,,,,,,ETF`s and index funds being my recommendation to most,,( these basket of stocks will keep you diverse and at same time in the heart of the growth of China ),,,trying to pick stocks yourself is very dangerous, as the best and most reputable are probably already public,,,,,,and choosing stocks that come public thru the back door ( reverse merger vs. IPO ) is a recipe for disaster,,,,,,,these companies go public thru reverse mergers for a reason,,,,the cost of course but more important the amount of disclosure and they are designed to rip of shareholders in most cases,,,,,, and it is closer to the legends of our own gold rush era than one imagines,,,,,
,,,,aside from the lousy administrative skills of Fan,,,the blueprint and product lines of CTGLF is one that with time will attract institutional support,,,(for example the buzz on RFID is getting louder and louder in logistics over there and CTGLF is in the drivers seat,,,,,,,,
,,,for a lot of you reading James Clavell novel of "NOBLE HOUSE" and understanding how the HONGS do business would be more fun and productive than china research that is so difficult to understand the players
,,,,,those interested in some research on other china stocks,,,,the following are 2 good informations sources to start with,,,,,,
,,,,http://www.chinastockblog.com/2005/04/china_blog_list.html
,,,,http://www.naichinaindex.com/english/default.asp
another one,,,,
http://www.china-asiastocks.com/Companies/China-AsiaStocks/Stocks_List.asp
,,,what i find silly is your report on cpice,,,"good sales and almost profits,,,,me thinks to much vodka,,, they have not reported yet !!!!!
,,,,,there is a lot of confusion in some minds about 144 stock sales,,,,,,here is a quick tutorial,,,,,after a quick digest one realizes private placement holders are not selling stock,,,or we would see the filings,,,, nor would they sell i imagine at such losses anyway,,(no tax breaks in China for capital losses)
,,,http://www.thebullandbear.com/articles/2002/0302-restricted.html
,,,,comeon JT,,,,,,,only insiders own 20 million shares,,,,,your being had,,,,,,,,,,it is true management has to register with the SEC any sales,,,,,,,,and we would see it,,,,,,however that is not the kind of insider we are talking about,,,,,,and that kind of insider is not in question,,,,,,,,,,,,, no one including myself has amassed 20 million shares on the open market,,,,,and their are not options being excercised,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,eddie yu is being disengenious with you because of your lack of understanding,,,, for example you have not even realized the discrepencies of Yahoo information,,,MSN information and Bloomberg information and Market Watch information, and even alans information,,,,,,,,,,,for months none of them have reported accurate info or uniform information,,,,,you have yet to realize the difference between 144 stock and free trading and what we are concerned with in counting shares ,,,,,and who has which and how and when they got it,,,,,,,,,,give me break please,,,,,,,, i do not want to pick on you , i like you,,,but as stated before you are acting like the bull in the china shop,,,,"believing the party line" it is never in the chinese self interest to tell you the truth,,,,,,,,,believe that first,,,,,,,,
,,,what you can believe and trust hopefully is what is reported in the financials and SEC filings as it puts them all in jail if they lie under sarbanes/oxley,,,,,,,,,,
us old timers do not mind you cutting your teeth on our experience ,,,but gee whiz at least show us your a quick study
,,,,,,,not yet my friend ,,,,,,but i am more openminded now ,,,,as he is suddenly suspect to chicanery, if there is 20 million shares on sale ,,they are not coming from over here,,,,,and the only company that held free trading stock besides the old management is squadrum limited ,,and the old management stock is long gone,,,,,,,,,after 25 years of being around reorganizations and reverse mergers,,,,,,,,,, like the shadows of Plato`s cave you recognize movements with out seeing the players,,,,,on the surface nothing wrong with squadrum selling its shares if it chooses,,,,,,however at worst case it takes a tacit agreement from the boss and the prime market maker to move such a massive amount without killing the market,,,so after 18 months i may have been wrong about Fan,,,,,,,however as ole abe lincoln said better be right part of the time than always wrong,,,,,,i have no evidence or proof yet,,,,,,,,,just what you have heard from JT ,,,,,,,however i repeat this game is not rocket science,,,,,and to manipulate a market takes agreements between decision makers,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,these are terrific questions sunspring,,,,the kind of questions many venture capital investors would ask themselves prior to investing in a small start up company,,,,(the issues of the CEO mostly determine success or failure of start up companies),,,,,
,,,the issue of face looms large in Hong Kong Society,,,that is the center of the new culture of China and of course Face is all about your peers,,,,,His wife lives here in California and is an American citizen,,,( little known factoid ) but his american links here are so few they have no effect,,,, he lives in Hong Kong and is politically obligated to his masters and that is where issues of FACE unfold for him,,,,,,,,,
,,,,he was mandated by CMG to develope a strategy of building a vertically integrated Franchise "BRAND",,,(indeed it was a massive loss of Face in Hong Kong to him when DFCT was delisted from nasdaq, ) however his learning curve has been so steep and obstacles (sarbanes/oxley) underestimated , my sense is that it has lost some of its motivational energy ,,,(time does that to human nature anyway),,,,,his insights to gaming our markets , legally its been non-existant,,,,illegally well who knows he could have put a million in his pocket already thru Squadrum Limited (however if he has , one day he will get caught !!!!!!!!!!,,,,,
,,,,and the best for last,,,,,this company is laden with Chinese credentials and owned by a massive conglomerate determined to make it "THE CHINESE BRAND" of IT Services in China ,,,and that blueprint at some point in the future will gain attention and institutional favor,,IF FAN does not cook the books he will survive ,if he does do something illegal he will not be missed and the great china leap forward will continue into this century,, so sunspring put the shares in the drawer and realize we are all early to the party,,,,,,,
,,,Follow up ,,,to whom it concerns,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,the previous scenario if it is true is very sinister,,,,it is also congruent with my experience over in China and their lack of morality to rip off intellectual properties offered in good faith in joint ventures untill they have what they want and then break the joint venture,,,,,,,,the horror stories are multitudinous and they fill the court records in Hong Kong and i of course am one of the honored members of that travesty,,,,,
,,,nevertheless a listed ADR here has to comply with our rules not their`s,,,,
,,,i have no proof or evidence yet of the preceding script if that is what in fact has been going on for the last few months,,,,
,,,i will tell you all, it is the only scenario that answers every question and frustration that has been unanswered by Fan since our last meeting,,,,,,ie: hostile seller,,,short interest,,,naked shorting,,,willingness to sell at any bid and drive price down and do it every single day for months,, yet not crash the price into oblivion,,,,,and ruin the market,,,(what is unknown to most of you is an offer to take up his share price to nasdaq qualifications,,,"legally" has been on the table for over a year,,, and the offer has been ignored repeatedly for over a year now,,,,,,why would a CEO ignore such an offer if "real",,,,most probably paranoia of discovery of the foregoing scenario,,,as access to a shareholders list is required "tells" all,,,,,,,
and they come every month from transfer agency,,,,,,,
,,,now for a minute what does it mean for you shareholders??
,,,,nothing actually unless you have been a long term holder,,,(which made the paid bashers on yahoo a lot smarter than i was ie::the candyman),,,,when the stock is gone the price will rise just the same as if we knew nothing of this sinister tactic if its true,,,,,,i have stated also my interest in the financials has not been the numbers like you all,,,,,it has been the notes to the financials ,,,,,which always gives clues to these sinister tactics if Fan is arrogant enough to try it the legal way,,, if he does it the illegal way of course he will get caught and we will get a new CEO,,,,,,
,,,this is not a fun day for me to contemplate such deceptions,,,,,but i have asked the tough questions,,,and never got an answer that made the whole puzzle work,,,,,,,,(this 20 million shares to go is the first clue that makes the puzzle work from any angle),,,,,and at first reaction i was not willing to accept or beleive,,,,course we have a lot vested in Fan`s honesty don`t we guys,,,after while that becomes a tough veil to pierce,,,,,
,,, i have a long weekend to poke holes in my own self deceptions about this company and Fan,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,To whom it concerns,,,,,,everyone has a view of things,,,,thats what makes a market,,,
,,,,this forum works for me and i think villebout does a fine job,,,so i don`t need to track another site to challenge either wrong information or disinformation, I like everyone appreciates JT`s activism and i have stated such already many times,,, with contingent criticism that has not changed,,,,,,(JT prints on his front page a 19 million public float,,, (inaccracies tend to become cannonized when the find their way into print) Fan states under oath in filing 20 F that there are just short of 39 million shares in the hands of over 1000 shareholders outside of China <<<<<all free trading stock>>>> as of Sept. 2004,,{their has to be more now },,and i have been the rounds with JT over not doing his homework,,,so nuff said ) JT is entitled to think and print as he chooses and do with his special info as he chooses,,, his intentions of course are guided by the same as ours,,,,some times fear and sometimes greed,,,,,,,,,,,thats what makes a market,,,,,
,,,,my own view of eddie yu as not changed,,,,,he is spin control and is looking for converts,, and if eddie is not being challenged by accurate information its difficult to know when your being stonewalled and listening to doubletalk,,,,,,,,as far as violating Reg FD,,,eddie works for dichain asia not CTGLF and actually most people only care what the chairman or CEO says in one voice to all under Reg FD,,,, investor relations everywhere works pretty much like eddie yu,,,the job is damage control,,,!!!!
<<< If their really is 20 million shares to go,,,then only the closest people to CTGLF is selling,,,,, and as Squadrum Limited is the only chinese entity holding free trading stock (it put up private placement money but got 144 stock in exchange for that money however was holding significant free trading stock prior to that transaction),,,,,,,,so it is selling for discounted cash to another entity of Fan`s proxies to keep it in the family,,,,,,,,, and keep the price down,,,,,but in the end screwing shareholders !!!!!!!! and it makes sense because it is an arms length transaction sold thru the market place and totally legal,,,, at least untill its investigated,,as it takes conspiritors to pull it off and everyone makes mistakes in the paperwork and looks for shortcuts,,,thus violations for prosecution,,, so which way is it eddie yu ???
,,,my guess it eddie yu has no clue,,,,he is a paid hack,,,,,the guys who own squadrum limited,,,,,,are Fan`s cronies and cadres of high rank in the political apparatus of certain ministries,,,,
,,,,great observation,,,,,,,,,,and who is buying them do you suppose ?
,,,,Lets Review,,,,and Re Focus
,,,,(a),,,we have a great press release informing shareholders of increased revenues beyond the current guidance given by Fan on website,,,,we call that an upside surprise,,(yes it took shareholder activism to get the info,,,nevertheless ,,,,,,
,,,,(b),,that news was greeted by massive selling in the same way as the previous 15 press releases since last November,,,
,,,(C) ,,the selling is always absorbed at the bid,,,(iceberg style) when there are no retail bids above,,,
<<<<<,,,, now you all tell me who is motivated too keep price at status quo ? and why ? >>>>>>>>
( this is the ONLY real issue that needs to be answered with integrity and transparency with management and have a real answer,,,,,this selling has gone on for 18 months now and is a real shareholder issue !!! and in my view trumphs obsolete financial information,,,,,,,( the stock price is silly in relationship to the story )
( i continue to sympathize with everyone, angry about the delays in financial reporting,,,,knowing full well the info would produce higher trading volumes,,,,,however sarbanes/oxley is a (bitch) and it is obvious auditors could not come to agreement with audit committtee,,,,( these committees are independent for a reason , so that we get honest books ) and its taking more time,,,,,but still it is a secondary problem from my view )
,,,eddie and leon are only employees,,,,they own no stock,,,they make a meger salary, ,,,,and so what if they talk about it , they are less informed than Fan and Fan does not take their council,,,,,,and their discount of private placement holders is posturing,,,,
COMMON SENSE & EXPERIENCE
1; Short answer too CTGLF reverse split,,,,Fan tried it already with CPICF and failed,,,,,,its called first hand experience ,he could not support his stock at a buck after it dropped from 20 bucks,,,,,,he killed his shareholders and his market and now his market is rigged at a nickel,,,,,,,,now maybe in a few months the greater fool theory will come along and buy Alans stock,,,but it will never auction trade untill it qualifies for Nasdaq or maybe AMEX and then it will struggle,,,,,( its what happens when you kill your shareholder base )
2; If you do not RS before financing ,after the first round of financing of a new company it becomes expoentially more difficult to RS , and sequentially after each deal the difficulty continues to compound,,,,,,,and Fan has already cut more deals that you all know about,,,and he would never cut another deal if he RS after the fact,,,
3; Fan has already talked the issue to death with his council,,,,and he is a hell of a lot more savvy now than when he started with bad council, and now he has good council,,(LOEB & LOEB),,,Fan is not entertaining a RS regardless what chatter or rumor you hear,,,,
4: Now with the latest acquisition,,,,it makes the possibility even more remote than it was,,,,,,,,,,,(each deal made, compounds the complexity of pulling off a RS )
5; Maybe most important the Chairman of CMG has always been against it !!!!!,,,,,,,
,,,,one of the side effects of a static share price is boredom,,,,sometimes you all have to much time to think and speculate,,,,,,,,,,,this talk about a Reverse Split is nonsense,,,,,,,,,,,,so wear yourselves out over it,,,,as on many other issues,,,,,,,i could write all day on the reasons IT WILL NOT HAPPEN,,,,,,but you all have time on your hands and you must fill structure with something,,,,,,,,,try another subject,,,MORE PRODUCTIVE
,,,,currently stock is being accumulated by outsiders,,,,not the company ,,,a good thing,,,,
,,,,JT ,,,,i might suggest a couple of themes you could pound on eddie yu about,,, that might be productive,,,,,
,,,we already saw shareholder pressure produces results,,,,,dead issue
a,,,,of course pounding on the issue of late Fincancials is good anytime,,,
b,,,, we could care less how Fan pays for (IERD),,what we would like to know what are their annual revenues before the takeover,,,,and if the combined assets meet all AMEX issues
c,,,, and the most important issue paramount to all is to get eddie to talk about anything he knows and how he knows about the selling and shorting,,, if he knows why Fan lets the status quo continue when the company has resources to dry up the selling quickly,, or put a stop to the shorting,,,,,,,
.,,,actually it is not complicated,,,,certainly there is a lot of history to CTGLF,,,,,,,,,but on a practical level the chinese simply have learned how to create wealth with public companies and create a 2nd currency,,,and they are taking every profit center they can public,,,,,CMG has over 15 of them public already,,,
No he is not JT ,,,,sorry for the error,,,
,,,,i bascily agree stogi,,,,it has been like a chinese puzzle and remember that twice Fan has had to redo his paperwork,,,,and i cannot help but think that its the same kind of problem,,,,
,,,,thx for catching that,,,,his name has two parts of the same names of one of the old bad guys,,,,
,,,,,,,,the name on the shareholder list above : KWOK Yam Sheung ,,,,was part of the bad guys in DFCT,,,,and the stock is long gone,,,,i would take off any mention on this site,,,,,,,,,thx JT ,,,Piu would not be happy with me characterizing him with the rest of the old crowd,,,,
,,,,,,,I do not know,,,,,,yet
,,,,,,,by the way,,,,my interest in the Financials is not about if the company is making money or profits,,,,of course it is,,,,my interest is in reading the footnotes required on the Fianancials, as they always give more clues to the companies internal affairs than any headline news of earnings and profits,,,,,besides the numbers are very outdated at this time,,,,,and this new deal probably triples the size of this company instantly,,,
,,your welcome JT/villebout