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Well we haven`t seen any public PR confirming Final`s words so there is still thinks that is needed to be cleared up!
I support you Nlight. I think its strange to see people wanting to denie any questions about actual facts and talking about legal issues against you or me for that sake, is just plain stupid. I think you have shown that you can see both sides of things concerning this company and recently you found negative info which you are talking about, next week maybe there will be somethin positive who knows? But there is no point shutting and eye if you see problems (to INVST and Final!)!
Well, believe what you wont. And I haven`t been lying. If you seriously think that there isn`t somethin fishy about the China telecom agreement then I`m surprised. Don`t you think the media would have been a little more interesting in a 500 million dollar contract than they are? You know 500 million dollars is a SERIOUS amount of money, is not everyday a company can get such a contract, even companies like HP, Lucent, Cisco or Intel would be REALLY proud of 500 million dollar. It is 99,999999% certain that this contract will NOT give CLYW 500 million dollars in income, it is just not realistic to think so. A fairly new company without any cash and with minimal income don`t sign 500 million dollars contracts, that just don`t happen. I am sorry but I am willing to bet a great deal of money against CLYW gaining 500 million dollars from this contract.
Maybe posts on this board has has some influence on the share today, but if the share drops 15% beacuse of posts on this board then there isn`t much trust in this company to begin with. I honestly think there are other reasons for the fall and I think the management should have sent out official PR concerning Leon allready. It isn`t that hard to send out a PR (they certainly like sending out PR concerning the patent) and they certainly know about the worry in the market. Sending out a PR tomorrow is a bit late, I think!
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=clyw&sid=0&o_symb=clyw
well that may be, but the longer chart looks like something different? isn`t this what we call a normal head an shoulder formation?????
goes after us? Why beacuse Nlightn found a document and we are talking about it? It`s a free world, we are not in Libya or anything and no one has done anythin expect talking about and actual document! If the company goes after us, then they seriously have a big problem. The company can press and PR saying something about Leons position with the company, if everything is ok, then it`s easy for them to do that, if not then the finding the document wasn`t that bad after all! Why are you against serious debate?
The needtel article in english. poor translation but its done bey translation software!
Pacifictel finalizes accusation against Nedetel in Equator The president of the telephone state one Pacifictel Alberto Pérez-Llona presented a demand against of the business Nedetel, company hired by Pacifictel to offer wide services of band, of course anomalies in the contract.
Nedetel is defendant if there is caused a swindle al been by value of 12 million dollars. The plaintiffs impacted in which Pacifictel offered free its installations so that Nedetel adapted its teams and to offer services from Internet to high velocity. The representative of Nedetel, Miguel Blum, left al step and said that all the accusations against their business are motivated for economic interests of groups. Blum assures that behind are the interests of businesses as TV Cable, of the group Isaías; of Equator Telecom, of Ernesto Road (family Febres Cordero) and of Transtelco. (NMCH).
But Pacifictel has also been defendant recently of diverse cases of corruption by some representatives of Equator and has blocked the payment of obligations to 18 businesses that give maintenance to the company. The debt accumulated of five months reaches already the four million dollars. Eduardo Fiallos, president of the Ecuadorian Association of Businessmen of Telecommunications (Asemtel) and representative of Constelec, affirms that the lack of payments has obliged the businesses to be gotten into debt with the private banking.
This post is from reging Bull. There could be somethin to this:
Robert Leon resignation - so what!
(if this posts twice... blame it on the board because it did not show up after first post)
The team layout on CLYW's site says that Robert Leon is currently the CTO. The resignation was from the President/Director position...
It is not unusual for the inventor of a technology to be the President/Director of an upstart. After all they are usually one of a few people in the company at that point. Once the invention is complete, it is not uncommon for that person to resign as the President/Director and take another position... i.e. (CTO) and turn the reigns over to a business oriented CEO.
Yeah, i discovered that a couple of minutes ago.
I posted twice, beacuse I hade some problems with the site. I thought my posts disappeared and the two other posts which were not from me, did also disapear for a while, so i posted twice, but it wasn`t intended if thats what you`re thinking!
Ok, i posted it on Ragin Bull. There allready was a post there, but that was just a link reffering to Investhub and will probably be romved. I hope someone will answer!
I got it know, I have seen this before in US, but I`m not used to anythinh like that in Norway. Byt the way, someone has posted a post on raging bull saying all should come here and read your post. He didn`t copy your post, thats a shame, but maybe someone who understands legal issues good enough, will come here and read it? Thanks Sug... and Nlight for explaining the Form 144!
why? Beacuse Nlightn has done som serious research and are trying to get answer to a serious question which may show that the CLYW management have hidden som information! I checked out Raging Bull and is said that CLYW is valued at 260 million dollar (3 times another unamed company), they have no income and there are serious issues which people need to find an answer to. Do you really just won`t to close your eyes and see the other way if there may bee problems with this company? If I had faith in a company I would face any problems and try to find out anything about them so I could talk against any basher and so on! Why look the other way?
Me neither, sorry about that. But I`m really curious about this so i hope someone with proper membership can post it and we will hopefully get a good and proper answer (concerning legal issues!)!
Or does it mean that someone has the right to sell shares, or something like that? It would certainly bee an odd time to sell shares?
I`m no expert and not american so can`t quite figure out what this exactly means, but this look like a Stock issue from CLYW right? 2 times 100 000 shares? In that case their a LONG way from the 5 million dollars they supposedly need. But again I`m not sure about this, can anyone explain?
Or this?
DJ Holder Registers 100,000 of CALYPSO WIRELESS INC
18 May 22:25
SOURCE: Form 144
ISSUER: CALYPSO WIRELESS INC
SYMBOL: CLYW
FILER: SPROUT INVESTMENTS
TITLE: No Relation
BROKER: NATIONAL CLEARING CORP
RESTRICTED SHARES TO SELL: 100,000 DATE REGISTERED: 05/17/04
APPROXIMATE DATE OF SALE: 04/10/04
The Form 144 is filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission to
reflect the intention of any holder of restricted stock to sell those
shares. After the 144 is mailed to the S.E.C., the filer is permitted
to sell the shares, or any fraction of them, within 90 days.
Form 144 Data Source: Washington Service (info@washserv.com or 301-913-5100)
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
05-18-04 2225ET
Can anyone explain this?
DJ Holder Registers 100,000 of CALYPSO WIRELESS INC ï
18 May 22:25
SOURCE: Form 144
ISSUER: CALYPSO WIRELESS INC
SYMBOL: CLYW
FILER: DROR II DANIEL
TITLE: Affiliated Person
BROKER: RAYMOND JAMES & ASSOCIATES
RESTRICTED SHARES TO SELL: 100,000 DATE REGISTERED: 05/17/04
APPROXIMATE DATE OF SALE: N/A
The Form 144 is filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission to
reflect the intention of any holder of restricted stock to sell those
shares. After the 144 is mailed to the S.E.C., the filer is permitted
to sell the shares, or any fraction of them, within 90 days.
Form 144 Data Source: Washington Service (info@washserv.com or 301-913-5100)
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
05-18-04 2225ET
Well i think it is quite obvius that there is several misleading information from the CLYW management. For example I`ve read at their homepage that they "Calypso stunned the telecommunication industry when it introduced the world’s first mobile video phone, the C1250i that works seamlessly on both traditional cellular/digital frequencies and the now exciting Wi-Fi frequency. Using broadband, it offers a super fast internet connection that allows users to video conference with movie like quality, to send and receive video clips with audio, movies on demand, and many other high speed services." How can this be when they`re income is extremly low at the moment. I also find it strange that their supposedly 500 million contract in China is claimed to have 500 million dollars as an intial target. How can 500 million dollars be intial when there is only 2 years left of the contract and we haven`t seen any real income from this. Their also saying their product will be shipped in 4 quarter 2004, well in 4 quarter 2004 there will only be one year left of the contract. Are we supposed to believe that they will gain 500 million dollars from China Telecom alone in 2005? Total income from Clyw in 2003 was not even near 1 million dollar, are we suppose to believe that income will rise from under 1 million dollars to more than 500 million dollars in 2005?
I thin it is a clear sign of something being wrong when Clyw aren`t updating progress on their agreements. We can all see that they NEVER will recieve anythin near 500 million dollars from China Telecom, but I haven`t seen anything saying that they are reducing the target for this agreement.
This Robert Leon thing i also not good. If Nlight`s information is right than Clyw shouldn`t talk about Leon as an important member of staff on the homepage. If Leon has resigned from CLYW i also seriously doubt that their technology is any good. Why would someone resign from something that will supposedly change technology and supposedly be huge? Any real inventor will stick with the technology and company if there is any future, it has to do with honour and the fact that you wonna see your dream come true! Lord Ship also mention the money problem, if clyw has under 200 000 dollars left, then their in serious problems. I doubt they`ll manage to get anything near 5 million dollars, and I think this company is in serious problems. I think people should take a look at the results and cash position and some of their missleading company and you will all see that their is a good chance that this company will be bankrupt by the end 0f 2004 or that someone will buy the remainging assets if their any good!
Well swedtel is swedish so it would be strange if there were to different Enitel companies. But all i know is that Enitel (which were quite large i Norway) went bankrupt and sold all their activa to Tele 2 which amongst other is the second largest fixed line operator i Norway. If it is the same Enitel then there is something strange going on beacuse they went bankrupt, but there may be another Enitel which I haven`t heard about!
The Enitel agreement! I hope it`s not the same Enitel company from Sweden, beacuse they went bankrupt a couple of years ago. Anyone know if this Enitel is from Sweden?
Vicepresident in Ericsson will be the new chairman of the board in Birdstep:
BIRD - EXTRAORDINARY GENERAL MEETING
The Board of Directors of Birdstep Technology ASA has today
decided on holding an extraordinary general meeting on June
17, 2004 at 15:00 in Oslo. The formal Notice of Meeting
will be sent to all shareholders registered in the
Norwegian Central Securities Depository as of 1 June 2004.
The Notice of Meeting will also be available from the
company`s offices at Bryggegata 7, 0250 OSLO, from Thursday
3 June 2004, and will also be notified to the Oslo Stock
Exchange.
The agenda for the meeting will be to elect a new Chairman
of the Board of Directors.
Mr. Per-Arne Sandström is suggested to be elected as the
Chairman of the Board.
Per-Arne Sandström is First Executive Vice President and
Deputy CEO of Telefonaktiebolaget LM Ericsson. Mr.
Sandström joined Ericsson in 1988. He has worked as a top
manager within several different units worldwide. From
September 2001 to April 2003, Mr. Sandström held the
position as the COO of Ericsson. From 1999 to 2001, he was
President of the North America Market Area for Ericsson
Inc. (USA). He also served on the Board of Directors of
the Cellular Telephone Industry Association. Between 1993
and 1999, Mr. Sandström served as head of Business Unit GSM
Systems. Until then, he had been Executive Vice President
in the United Kingdom, and the Director of Market
Operations Western Europe. His first position with
Ericsson was at Ericsson Radar Electronics Unit, and he
soon became Vice president and General Manager for the
Airborne Radar division in 1990. Mr. Sandström was born in
Nynäsheim, Sweden, in 1947. He holds an engineering degree
in telecommunications. He graduated 1967 in Stockholm.
Mr. Richard Faber, today`s Chairman of the Board, is
suggested to continue as a member of the board.
Contact name:
Jørgen Bredesen, CEO of Birdstep Technology ASA, phone no.
+47 24 13 47 00.
Birdstep can be involved in this project from British Telecom. They are allready involved with several companies involved in this project. They have offical agreements with Alcatel and Ericsson, and they have also confirmed talks with Motorola.
BT teams up with Vodafone in mobiles
Tue 18 May, 2004 17:16
RELATED ARTICLES
MmO2 makes first pre-tax profit
By Santosh Menon
LONDON (Reuters) - BT is to launch a new fixed-to-mobile service that will use Vodafone's cellphone network and target 1.0 billion pounds in annual revenue in five years.
BT said on Tuesday it will offer customers a handset which will hook on to its own fixed-line system when used at home or in the office but elsewhere would switch automatically to Vodafone's wireless network.
The service, dubbed "Project Bluephone", could help the former monopoly re-enter a high-growth area after years of falling revenue at its core fixed-line business.
BT spun off its mobile arm in November 2001 but returned to the consumer mobile market last June and has around 170,000 mobile customers, two thirds of them business subscribers.
It has so far relied on offspring mmo2's network for its business mobile user base, while regular customers have piggy-backed Deutsche Telekom unit T-Mobile's UK network.
BT's Bluephone handsets would use Bluetooth chip technology, which creates a high-speed wireless link between cellphones, computers and other devices over short distances.
"It removes the need to own more than one phone, as customers will be able to use a single device that can switch seamlessly between networks, giving more convenience, a better service with more guaranteed coverage and lower overall costs," BT said.
BT's retail arm chief Pierre Danon said the link-up with Vodafone, the world's top mobile service provider by revenue, was the "first relationship of its kind" in the world.
Vodafone said the tie-up would help it "maximise its network and service assets while generating additional revenue from a new source".
Analysts said BT's move was aimed at stemming the loss of its fixed-line user base.
"It is a classic example of innovation to defend market share," said Andrew Darley, analyst at ING Financial Markets.
"What they ultimately want you to have is a wireless broadband phone line at home, which means you're going to end up with broadband from BT, fixed-line from BT and...you'll never really think of getting rid of fixed-line, never think of leaving BT," he said.
Fixed-line carriers have for long seen customers trade up to the convenience of mobile phones. BT, which has more than 72 percent of the UK's home phone market, has also been losing customers to rival fixed-line services.
Bluephone, which is supported by telecom equipment makers Alcatel, Ericsson and Motorola, has undergone successful trials over the past two months and BT said it was planning a soft launch in the summer, with a full launch later this year.
BT shares were up 0.7 percent to 170-1/2 pence in afternoon trading
Market news from British Telecom if you`re interested. A new Consortium with several major players which while focus on seamless mobility from fixed to mobile lines:
BT teams up with Vodafone in mobiles
Tue 18 May, 2004 17:16
RELATED ARTICLES
MmO2 makes first pre-tax profit
By Santosh Menon
LONDON (Reuters) - BT is to launch a new fixed-to-mobile service that will use Vodafone's cellphone network and target 1.0 billion pounds in annual revenue in five years.
BT said on Tuesday it will offer customers a handset which will hook on to its own fixed-line system when used at home or in the office but elsewhere would switch automatically to Vodafone's wireless network.
The service, dubbed "Project Bluephone", could help the former monopoly re-enter a high-growth area after years of falling revenue at its core fixed-line business.
BT spun off its mobile arm in November 2001 but returned to the consumer mobile market last June and has around 170,000 mobile customers, two thirds of them business subscribers.
It has so far relied on offspring mmo2's network for its business mobile user base, while regular customers have piggy-backed Deutsche Telekom unit T-Mobile's UK network.
BT's Bluephone handsets would use Bluetooth chip technology, which creates a high-speed wireless link between cellphones, computers and other devices over short distances.
"It removes the need to own more than one phone, as customers will be able to use a single device that can switch seamlessly between networks, giving more convenience, a better service with more guaranteed coverage and lower overall costs," BT said.
BT's retail arm chief Pierre Danon said the link-up with Vodafone, the world's top mobile service provider by revenue, was the "first relationship of its kind" in the world.
Vodafone said the tie-up would help it "maximise its network and service assets while generating additional revenue from a new source".
Analysts said BT's move was aimed at stemming the loss of its fixed-line user base.
"It is a classic example of innovation to defend market share," said Andrew Darley, analyst at ING Financial Markets.
"What they ultimately want you to have is a wireless broadband phone line at home, which means you're going to end up with broadband from BT, fixed-line from BT and...you'll never really think of getting rid of fixed-line, never think of leaving BT," he said.
Fixed-line carriers have for long seen customers trade up to the convenience of mobile phones. BT, which has more than 72 percent of the UK's home phone market, has also been losing customers to rival fixed-line services.
Bluephone, which is supported by telecom equipment makers Alcatel, Ericsson and Motorola, has undergone successful trials over the past two months and BT said it was planning a soft launch in the summer, with a full launch later this year.
BT shares were up 0.7 percent to 170-1/2 pence in afternoon trading
No hurt feelings
well it`s not true that I`m a copy and paste person. I have some knowledge of the technology, but there are also things i don`t know. In future I will not post anything about you know what on this board.
Well my final writing on this board for a while goes to INVST who to me have a strange behaviour. You avoid my questions and tries to focus on me. The orignally reason for me writing here was that i found some false information about Birdstep and some other competitors which irritated me. I was also trying to find as much info as possible to found how big a threat CLYW was to Birdstep. I found out that they`re probably no threat. Since i totally disagree with your dreams about CLYW I got a bitt carried a way and wanted to prove that CLYW is behind some competitors, by you guys don`t want to hear this or discuss this. Thats why I`m leaving. And to you INVST i seriusly hope you`ll be able to discuss without trying to make fun of people in the future, beacuse I haven`t found a single post from you that have contained any valuable information. Goodbye!
Well, I take you`re point an agree that I have talked to much about Birdstep on this board. the americans aren`t that interested in Birdstep yet so the respons on the other forum isn`t exactly that huge. I hope you`ll have in mind what I`ve written and I will resign my from this board, but will be an passive reader for a while. probably good ridance for you guys, hehe.
Well actually I would need some time to answee the following questions. Since I don`t know the exact answer to everything your asking and since I`m norwegian and technical english can be difficult for me sometimes. thats probably why some of what I have written have been misunderstood. My "accusation" was directed to INST who avoid my questions and not you`re writting, since I have found several of you`re posting good and interesting keep up the good work and I will come back to you. I will have to use some internet help to some of you`re questions, I won`t lie about that, but it`s better than to post things I`m not sure about.
I will not answer such a question since it is irrelevant to the board. OK!
Me sidestepping? Who are you to talk? You haven`t answered a single question and thats what you`re always doing. I don`t wont a discussion focused on persons but on company and related issues. My questions have to do with CLYW and competion and you won`teven try to answer. This is something i have seen from you before and I`m not gonna discuss person with you any more. The board is for CLYW related issues and that include market news, technology and competition not what you think of me or what I think of you. Beacuse that is irrelevant to this board. Have a nice day and try to answer mye questions if you dare!
Well, all I know is that you as an example haven`t answer a single question I have asked. I`ve been asked a couple of questions and tried mye best to answer. All you have done is focusing on my person and calling me childish names like BIrd-brain. Why won`t you focus on the technology and market related issues? Is the fact that I can prove that Bird and other CLYW competitors have been working with major players so hard to cope with? If you`re really have that much faith in CLYW and their technology you should be able to deffend the cause and my questions and facts with other questions and facts! As an example I`m saying that CLYW haven`t proved that their working with any major players, they haven`t attended major events and is not mentioned by major players!
Birdstep attended 3GSM, CTIA Wireless, CeBit and 3-4 Intel solutions events to name a few. They have several offical partnerships with major companies and are mention several places by Cisco amongst others.
Ipunplugged attended CTIA Wireless and some other events. Have agreements with Lucent and Cisco. Are mentioned by Lucent
Ecutel, attended som major events. Agreements with Siemens and also mentioned by Hp
Netseal attended som major events in Europe. Agreement with Toshiba, mentioned by some major companies.
Netmotion agreement with HP. Mentioned by several companies for example HP
Who are CLYW working with, I mean officaly. not speculations? what major events?
Well, if you`re not interesting and talking about the cause, I`ts you`re loss. But if you guys actually was that confident in CLYW then you should be able to answer med with facts (links or others) telling me I`m wrong and you`re right. But so far no one has tried to deffend with any facts, just som mino irritation against me. If thats the way you discuss, well fine by me, but it won`t help you. I think you guys should be aware of the fact that I probably now a lot more about this market since Birdstep has been around longer than CLYW when it comes to actual business. You could listen and hear what I say, or you can dream and think there is nothing wrong with they way CLYW manangement is behaving. Good luck anyway, but i wouldn`t expect wonders from CLYW befor late 2005. technology progress is slow and CLYW has a LONG way ahead which a lot of competitors allready have taken. Sorry, but that is the fact and there is no problem for me to prove that all companies I have mentioned have been testing with the major players for year, it`s facts and if you can`t understand that, then you`re lying to yourselves. Maybe CLYW will be sucessfull, but I think the chances are minimal for them in the coming year!
Well i inntend to stick to cause rather than person and I hope you will to the same in the future, beacuse talking bad about me or others won`t help your cause, please discuss the cause in future!
One important lesson to learn, is that late filings is NEVER good!
I couldn`t agree more with you. There is need for technology such as the idea CLYW claims that they have a patent on, but I honestly don`t think CLYW will have chance with their actual product, beacuse there are competitors in the market (not just Birdstep) that have been testing and talking to the major players for years. If you check out Lucent, Cisco, Nortel, Ericsson, Intel, Verizon and others you will see that they either have agreements or have been testing with a lot of the competitors of Clyw. As an example Nortel tested the Birdstep Mobile IP Client together with IBM and Verizon i 2002 (you can find it on Nortels website) and now Verizon have asked spefic for Mobile IP Client and the Bidstep solution. They point is that testing with the major players take place 1-3 year before they actually choose to buy the solution, thats why Birdstep have gotten the recent OEM agreements with ericsson, Alcatel and Nortel and are in final talks with Lucent and Motorola as well. But this has been a long process where some of Birdsteps competitors have been refused. If Clyw is been tested by one or two major players, then it will probably take 1-3 years befor there can be an initial agreement, and in most cases there will not be an agreement. The major players are testing most technology available but they only sign with a few. Also the major players will choose solutions which they can profite from, Cisco will not abondon the Mobile IP way, since they`re a part of the solution, thats why Cisco is an ecopartner with Birdstep and IPunplugged. If you search on the major players websites (Intel,Cisco,HP,Lucent,Nortel, Ericsson and others) you will most likely find the names of Birdstep, Netmotion, Ecutel, IPunplugged, Netseal and a few others. Why? Beacuse their technology has been tested and accepted. To me it seems like Clyw is in the premature testing fase where they haven`t even been attending some interesting events yet. If all goes well for CLYW then maybe they`re in final talks with some major players in 1-2 years, but any talks today is probably quite loose. Agreements take a while to finalice and as an example Birdstep have offers from 15 Mobile Operators for the Mobile IP Client, but any final agreement can take several months, beacuse you have testing and som adjustemens and so on. This will also cost money and Clyw needs money, probably a lot more than 5 million dollars to have anu success!
I also know what i talking about and I don`t like that you`re saying stuff that is not true. MSFT is no competitor of Bird ,and Bird and CLYW are competitors, like it or not, sorry but that is the truth!
You can read this or check out more product info on www.birdstep.com , but you`re comment on MSFT being a competitor of Birdstep is completly wrong and ridiculous. The Birdstep can interact with Home agent/Forein Agent from Cisco, Nortel, Linux, HP, Sun and others and it can interact with VPN solutions from checkpoint, microsoft, Nortel and Cisco. The client can automaticly close/open VPN, this is one of the unique things. As far as i know CLYW will have to compete with som of these solutions.
http://www.birdstep.com/collaterals/3G-Hotspot.pdf
This is completly wrong. Birdsteps Mobile IP client is no competitor of Msft or Cisco. There are different levels of MIP. Cisco`s MIP can only work on Cisco IOS and Birdstep mobile Client is a extension of the Cisco Client, thats why their working together. Yeah Birdstep is IP based, but thats no problem for voice, since voice is data and VOIP is coming. When you`re saying that MSFT is a competitor of Birdstep, then you`re WAY off topic. INTEL and MSFT did have a research facility in Sweden in 2000-2001, but they gave up the project and sacked everyone, they are not working on this solution anymore and thats why INTEL is running around the world with Birdstep. MSFT is also a partner of Birdstep, so there is NO competion between these to. Mobile IP is a broad terminologi and Mobile IP has been use for a long time, but Birdstep Mobile IP client which can enable seamless roaming from cellular to wifi (+others) is a new product which some others have. These include Ipunplugged, Netmotion, Ecutel, Netseal and Secgo. MSFT haven`t got a similar product. INTEL was planning to integrate the Birdstep Mobile IP Client into INTEL Centrino, but they prosponed it.
not really. 4.pm and we have been celebrating our national day and will continiue with that in and hour or two. meanwhile am trading at nasdaq!