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This circus is hilarious...
They keep adding more and more lawyers...
More and more judges...
More and more hearings...
More and more venues...
More and more spinoff patents...
More and more trial dates...
More and more experts...
More and more dismissals...
More and more "no infringement rulings"
More and more paid pump posts...
More and more years gone by with zilch...
More and more lack of any communication from company...
More and more closer to expiration of patents...
More and more wasted time...
More and more underwater...
More and more accumulated wallpaper...
More and more insiders selling every day...
More and more exits every day...
More and more excuses made for the scam all the time...
More and more wealth accumulated for the insiders everyday...
More and more secrecy by the company all the time...
More and more you are asked to have patience above and beyond the pale...
More and more you are told company is in its best position ever...and some of you actually believe that.
BRRRRREAKING NEWS!
BREAKING NEWS!!
"VPLM is pleased to announce that in response to inquiries made by VoIP industry companies, it is
preparing to license several of the revolutionary proprietary digital voice technologies contained in the
patent PORTFOLIO"
................oops.............
And now........for the REST of the story...
"BELLEVUE, Wash., July 11, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Voip-Pal.Com Inc. ("Voip-Pal") (OTC Pink sheets:
VPLM) is pleased to announce that in response to inquiries made by VoIP industry companies, it is
preparing to license several of the revolutionary proprietary digital voice technologies contained in the
patent portfolio recently acquired from Digifonica International (Gibraltar) Limited.
The VoIP industry has
identified five specific patents which contain competitive and licensable technologies:
Above is just 1 more of the many many lies Vplm told you to string you along.....and entice you to buy buy buy...
And you bought bought bought it, hook, line and sucker's...
I've seen many out and out lies and twisting of my words and/or meanings. I've seen many red herring attempts to discredit me and tu quoque, arguing from fallacy, ad hominem, double talk, doublespeak, doubkethink, gaslighting, personal attacks, name calling, bandwagon jumping, strawman, non sequiturs.......but have yet to see any proof I've been wrong or lied, etc.
Yes, and that helped me to see that it's happening over and over, to the tune of I told yall there would never be any infringement trials. And the sure thing element you mention has been repeated so many times from and about this company that it's become a washed out phrase that no longer means anything, similar to the boy who cried wolf syndrome. I also remember that there was a poster who stated that he spoke to Richy Rich with regard to that that last Amazon deal and was told there was indeed a settlement that would be pleasing to shareholders. Of course I never was able to find any evidence of such an occurrence. I posted that there would have to be 1 or the other sec filings to be quickly filed and available to view, but that did not appear to happen. However, in my searching for the settlement amount, this could be a mistake or a false memory but I remember either finding or reading another posters finding, on a 10q, that the amount was $40K and I believe I posted that at the time. That might be wrong. I wish someone could corraborate or dismiss.
Lord Emu of eGipped stated that EVERY use of voip, anywhere, anytime, was automatically an infringement, and when further questioned as to the possibility of a get around, he said there was no possible way to circumvent that fact. I've never forgotten that statement from him because I realized at once, that it made clear, according to him, that the number and eventual quantity of infringements, translated to damages, then tripled........was clearly upwards of a trillion dollars and anyone who doesn't see that or disputes it, like the recent poster who scoffed at the idea of Vplm being worth $250 billion, is simply ignorant of the facts and the numbers. Mind you, it doesn't mean it's really got that value but the point and most important thing IS THAT IS VPLM's CLAIM! And is what results in uninformed or dumb peeps to keep topping off the Vplm funny car with fuel, ie, contributing to the emu go fund me page.
Translation: what they are doing is stringing you along, strumming you like a banjo and playing you like a slot machine........on.....and on.....and on.......and on. Keep drinking the Kool aid and eventually, you'll be belly up. This place will look like Jonestown, metaphorically speaking...
Hey that's what, 2 or 3x now we've heard ruling of "non infringement".... Isn't that fantastic! I'm sure it must be good, right?
I told you ppl numerous times over the past few years that there would be no infringement. Of course, you laughed.. I wonder if you're still laughing? It's likely not the last time you'll hear those non infringement words. A summary look back over the postings would show nothing but positively as to how infringement would finally play out and you totally dismissed me. Ok. It's like an Oprah show... He gets a no infringement, she gets a no infringement. They get a no infringement!
but...but...but.....38 IPR "wins"???
what about the super lawyers??
what about fine judge?
(sung by lord emu)
ohthehumanity
Once again (been many), yest predicted/warned of more incoming monkey wrenches. I keep successfully calling these turns of events and the elite pro side keeps, lol, lol, saying it's all good. It's really hilarious. My theories, observations, facts and explanation clearly and easily explain all of this and connect ALL the dots, but hey, it's all good. Never been so entertained while losing money. (to clarify, I can never lose money overall with vplm because I locked into the black long ago but still have shares, so if I don't ever get my 50 cents, which ain't looking too good, so that'll be a loss but only a relative loss). For the dummies who don't understand 400% loss concept, just skip over this part, you don't have the aptitude, but the bottom line is, because of how blatantly Vplm lied, plus having to wait all these years, if I don't get the 50 cents, the shares go up as wallpaper, rather than accepting a penny or 2. I'd like to shove them up an emus ass, better yet.
In any event, KEEP HAVING PATIENCE AND DON'T FORGET HOW VPLM IS PERPETUALLY IN ITS BEST POSITION EVER!
I find a large percentage of the so called longs here (or as they like to label themselves... "true longs", which by definition is silly, because the definition of being long, is simply to hold any stocks), to have an elitist attitude. In your case, let me demonstrate: you characterize your outward explanation of the value of Vplm as "espousing" , while you characterize straightwards view as "parroting" . I find that elitist and a bit disrespectful because to say someone is parroting something is simply calling them a copycat, while couching your own take in espousing implies the supporting of a cause or a way of life, which sounds a more refined endeavor. You put yourself on a pedestal as such, when both of you were simply giving your opinion on the value of Vplm.
I suppose you would characterize my well supported, factual and documented thoughts on the value of Vplm as dumb, insane, stupid, inconsequential, unsupported, ridiculous, baseless, etc., one of those or some other oft used adjective.
While true that no court has ruled on any infringement value, it's also true that the patented technology was created some 18 years ago and allegedly cost 17 or 18 million dollars and the work of some 20 voip engineers and code writers and was done for digi-phony-ca, another voip services provider, but who did not attempt to fold the tech into their platform and instead just wanted to get rid of it for cost, but sold it to vplm for some $800+k and a few millions shares, who also being a voip service provider, ALSO chose not to incorporate the tech into their 10 year established voip service providing business even after promising to do so and who then, with all the knowledge, expertise, experience that the bio's espoused, in excruciating detail, per the various army of lawyers and BOD, with all those great names like Sawyer and Candy and Chang and Tucker and Thomas and Lee, etc, whom in total, their resumes could author the complete knowledge base of voip itself and patent law...........and who we must assume applied all their knowledge into this Vplm endeavor.....and yet, in the at least 11 years Vplm has ALLEGEDLY been trying to sell, license or otherwise monetize.......THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO RAISE 2 FRIGGIN NICKELS TO RUB TOGETHER, TO DATE. AND THAT NOT ONLY CRUISING THRU 11 YEARS, BUT THRU ALL THOSE LAWYERS AND JUDGES AND HEARINGS ETC ETC ETC. NOT A DIME.
Without me looking up the formal definition of value, I'm gonna step out onto a limb and define it as something that can be put on a market and have enough need and desire to be able to sell at some price in a reasonable amount of time.
With that in mind, I submit and shout from the rooftop that all of this shows and proves that vplm has no value in terms of its product, period, end of story. If you want to try to beat it out of Vplm for yet another 10 years, have fun. Vplm has proven itself in any and sll reasonable ways........to be of NO VALUE except as a share selling scheme
You sure missed alot of dots.....but that ok, understand that's necessary in order to connect all those fallacies you've been fed, lol. Amusing
Are you blind or something? You were just shown the proof, the undeniable proof that vplm, in a damage estimate revision in 2017, stated that only 3 listed companies (I think it was apple, att and maybe Verizon?) were worth approx $225 billion. Mind you, that was only for 3 of the alleged infringers. Vplm had named approx 60. And I personally found more... It doesn't take a genius to immediately see how that easily translates into faaaaar more than $250 billion. Duh. I posted the facts and figures directly from Vplm. In addition to that, owning the patents, allegedly gives complete and total control over the biggest and most important communication vehicle (voip) in the history of mankind. Furthermore, it eliminates any and all competition in said field, as well as royalty income for years to come.
And you think it's not a $250 billion company value ? ? ? ? ? ?
Are you deaf, dumb and blind? I'll answer that...... You OBVIOUSLY have no clue and have not paid any attention to the facts such as I have been providing. I just posted those figures and estimates from Vplm, YESTERDAY, for cryin out loud. Duh.
* remember....the ONLY value that can be assessed or assgned to vplm is the infringement damages. THEY, THE COMPANY......HAVE NOTHING ELSE. THEY HAVE NO OTHER VALUE... AND ACTUALLY, YOU CAN ONLY SAY THE INFRINGEMENT DAMAGE ESTIMATES ARE JUST THAT, ESTIMATES.... THERE ARE NO INFRINGEMENTS SHOWN SO FAR, THEREFORE VPLM ZERO VALUE IN REALITY. ALL THOSE BILLIONS ARE JUST A RUSE TO GENERATE WISHFUL THINKING AND TO KEEP SHAREHOLDERS BUYING.
SO IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ONLY OF THE ACTUAL MONETARY VALUE OF VPLM AT PRESENT AND YOU ARE GOING BY THAT RIDICULOUS MARKET CAP FIGURE, IT'S NOTHING MORE THAN YET ANOTHER PIPE DREAM. IF SHAREHOLDERS TRIED TO PULL OUT THAT $50 million or whatever the figure is currently, it would shut down quickly.
istherenobottomtotheineptness
So where's my 50 cents? The pps is lower now than when Vplm began showing quotes here around 14 yrs ago. I guess Mr market doesn't know anything...
If the patents are so necessary and valuable to voip services..........then why didn't Vplm, who used to be a voip service provider, use the patents themselves??????????????
Regardless of stupid, ignorant, rude comments to such questions.......which are questions that don't get any better, no one can or will give an intelligent, fair answer to it. Because they can't. Ironically, Vplm said that was exactly what they were going to do, immediately and for the benefit of shareholders. But they lied...and didn't do it.......because the whole premise was a scheming lie, designed to sell shares and garner shareholders. It was a shining success!
That's makes you their fools.
Tucker:
Unfortunately, we cannot name the multiple S&P 500 companies with whom we are in discussions with at the chairmen and ceo levels. While we do not have a self-imposed timeline for our monetization of the IP we are making every effort to bring the most meaningful offer to the shareholders for approval this calendar year. The board has established a target price based upon an internal valuation of using accepted industry standards. However, the negotiation process - obviously - will result in the final price. The board has a fiduciary obligation to deliver the best possible offer to shareholders for approval. We remain in active discussions with several groups that have expressed interest and have requested additional data as part of their ongoing due diligence. Thank you.
VOIP PAL COM
Symbol U : VPLM
Recent Sedar Documents
Voip-Pal.Com Inc. Acquires Five Major VoIP Patents Through Acquisition of
Digifonica (International) Limited Gibraltar
2012-05-11 08:30 ET - News Release
BELLEVUE, Wash., May 11, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Voip-Pal.Com Inc. ("Voip-
Pal.Com") (OTC Pink sheets: VPLM), a leading edge international VoIP telecom
company, is pleased to announce that it has completed the acquisition of
Digifonica (International) Limited Gibraltar ("Digifonica Gibraltar"), owners of a
vast and varied VoIP patent portfolio containing revolutionary proprietary digital
voice technologies. Digifonica Gibraltar is now a wholly owned subsidiary of
Voip-Pal.Com.
The acquisition immediately advances Voip-Pal.Com as a technical leader in the
VoIP services market which had revenues of $58 Billion in 2011 and is
experiencing double digit year-over-year growth[1]. The patent portfolio will
greatly enhance shareholder value and immediately contribute to significant
revenue growth for Voip-Pal.Com as the number of mobile VoIP subscribers is
projected to reach 410 million by 2015.
By completing this transaction, Voip-Pal.Com has acquired 100% ownership of a
completely unique set of network based technologies and processes that will
enhance subscriber and carrier functionality resulting in a substantial increase of
average revenue per user. The technologies are predominantly software based,
and capable of scaling over multiple network servers, in multiple countries
worldwide, creating virtual network coverage that can span the entire globe, or a
single neighborhood – at the need and budget of the carrier. Further, the patent
portfolio provides solutions that will enable clients to meet or exceed
forthcoming regulatory and legal requirements.
"Revenues from this newly acquired patent portfolio will be derived from applying
the technology to our own operations, future royalties through licensing
agreements, and a white label program," states Dennis Chang, President of Voip-
Pal.Com. "A conservative estimate shows that potential royalty income alone
from the Digifonica Gibraltar patents may exceed $200 million per year for Voip-
Pal. Full descriptions, advantages and revenue estimates for each newly acquired
patent will be released as they are individually integrated into Voip-Pal.Com's
Cloud Server."
About Voip-Pal.Com Inc.
Voip-Pal.Com Inc. is a broadband VoIP telecom company offering local and long
distance VoIP services to consumers and business owners. The company also
provides VoIP communication and reseller solutions for its partners. Voip-
Pal.Com Inc. is the enabler of international calls using VoIP technology on the
internet, smart cell phones and PC Tablets. Voip-Pal's goal is to provide a
quality, high-speed and cost-effective telephone solution for the casual and
business international traveler who must rely on their smartphones, laptops or
tablets in order to communicate.
Retail Website:
www.pointsphone.com.
Corporate Website:
www.voip-pal.com
Company Contact:
Dennis Chang, CEO: dtchang@voip-pal.com
IR inquiries:
chanelle@voip-pal.com or info@voip-pal.com
BELLEVUE, Wash., July 11, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Voip-Pal.Com Inc. ("Voip-Pal") (OTC Pink sheets:
VPLM) is pleased to announce that in response to inquiries made by VoIP industry companies, it is
preparing to license several of the revolutionary proprietary digital voice technologies contained in the
patent portfolio recently acquired from Digifonica International (Gibraltar) Limited. The VoIP industry has
identified five specific patents which contain competitive and licensable technologies:
1. Rating-Billing-Routing engine (RBR): (Producing routing messages for VoIP communications);
2. Lawful Intercept (Intercepting VoIP communications and other data communications);
3. Enhanced 911 ("Emergency Assistance calling for VoIP communications);
4. Mobile Gateway;
5. Uninterrupted Transmission of Internet Protocol Transmissions during Endpoint Changes.
Voip-Pal is currently beta testing these technologies with several major VoIP industry providers in order
to establish a monetary value for each patent.
The licensing of these patents can create a highly profitable additional revenue stream for Voip-Pal.Com.
Dennis Chang, President of Voip-Pal.Com, states: "I am pleasantly surprised at the level of interest
shown by major players in the VoIP industry with respect to the patents held by our wholly owned
subsidiary, Digifonica International (Gibraltar) Limited. As the company finalizes integration of this
technology with our retail site, www.pointsphone.com, Voip-Pal.Com anticipates to be well positioned to
not only rapidly l gain market share in the VoIP mobile phone market but in a position to earn tens of
millions of dollars per year in licensing fees. This diversification of the revenue stream should be a
substantial bonus to our shareholders."
Don't waste your time recommending dialogue with vplm lawyers and damage assessment experts.........obviously they are part of the problem, evidenced by the fact that their efforts have produced less revenue in over a decade, than a 1 hour takeaway at my daughters lemonade stand in front of the house.
Vplm is nothing but a fiat share creating, share selling scheme. That's it, they deal in shares, period. Get it thru your head. There are sooooo many indications and proofs, of this, they can't even be counted because it's like trying to measure the size of an ever expanding universe that expands faster than the speed of light. Ya just can't keep up with it.
Here, I'll pick one at random...
If you were a voip service provider and you had the good fortune to come across and buy a set of technology patents that were absolutely necessary and foundational to the continued use and operation of your voip services business......AND....this also meant, at the same time, that ANY & ALL competitors out there would be then forced to license said technology in order to stay in the industry, meaning obviously that you owning the technology automatically made you not only king of the hill in VoIP services, but in fact it had no choice but to lead you to being a monopoly, because it had been announced and made clear, by the original creator of the technology, that IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE FOR ANY VOIP SERVICE PROVIDER TO OPERATE WITHOUT INFRINGING UPON THE PATENTS.......would you then pass on obtaining the technology or get it and sell it OR FOLD IT INTO YOUR ALREADY EXISTING VOIP SERVICE PROVIDING BUSINESS???????????
That is the question. Keep in mind that the above scenario, is ABSOTIVELY, POSILUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY real. It IS what vplm was faced with in EVERY ASPECT MENTIONED. It's not some made up, contrived scenario, but is actually what happened and no one can deny it.
Vplm of course did aquire the patents AND DID INDEED IMMEDIATELY STATE AND PROMISE, BY WAY OF MACHINE GUN STYLE PRs, TO IMMEDIATELY FOLD THE TECHNOLOGY INTO THEIR ALREADY EXISTENT VOIP SERVICES BUSINESS, WHICH WOULD INCREASE THEIR SUBSCRIBER BASE BY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AND BEGIN TO COLLECT AS MUCH AS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR IN ROYALTIES. .
There is no word twisting or anything lost in translation or exaggeration above. It is EXACTLY what they promised to shareholders and potentials. Not only that, but they repeated it over and over and over many times for between 2 and 3 yrs during the long acquisition process.
I have copies of those PRs and I have posted numerous of them here many times. They are crystal clear and there can be no mistake about any if this. THAT.....is what occurred.
Of course, this caused a huge upsurge in new shareholders and sales of shares, in a big way. It was VPLM's setup and countdown for blast off to the moon!
Imagine......having the keys to the kingdom handed to you on a silver platter. That is what happened...
But then, the biggest monkey wrench ever seen was thrown into the pot... Hard to believe, but the very next thing that happened after the huge run up in shareholders and share sales, is, [color=red]FOR NO APPARENT RHYME OR REASON, OUT OF THE BLUE, WITH NO DISCUSSIONS, NO INPUT OR PARTICIPATION FROM SHAREHOLDERS........... [ color] VPLM RENEGED! THEY DID A FULL 180. THEY TOOK THOSE MIRACULOUS KEYS TO THE KINGDOM AND TOSSED THEM INTO THE SEA. Then announced that the patents or the company was for sale...
There should have been a major protest and uprising against the company, but there was no push back at all. From reading the posts at the time, it becomes obvious that reason for no push back is that by this time, Vplm had whipped the shareholders into a frenzy with all the bullshit PR claims, which by now had progressed to where they were basically telling everyone that major deals with major buyers, ie, fortune 500 and s&p 500, etc, WAS IMMINENT! THEY MADE IT SOUND AS THOUGH THE BIG DOGS WERE BEATING THE DOORS DOWN TO LICENCE OR BUY. Make no mistake. These PRs are available to see and unmistakable. So the point is, the shareholders, in their greed, didn't care about what was just pulled on them. They had been buying and accumulating shares hand over fist. So they didn't care about anything that vplm did or didn't do... They just knew, or thought they knew (check the postings of that time period to corraborate) that they were now sitting pretty and need only wait for the big slot machine to dump fortunes into their waiting trucks and boats.
Of course it never happened. The shareholders were HAD! Big time! And they gave been hanging on to the dream ever since, because Vplm kept the ruse going on multiple levels which has always been part of the plan and explains all the inconsistencies along the way. Just as madoff had his victims strung along for all those years, so too has lord emu.
Deal with it
You seem to think the patents have been tested... Ok, show proof of testing results. If you are talking about validity testing like IPRs, then you don't know what testing means. Qualified patents are not tested patents. Fact: patents did not have to be tested or demonstrated to the USPTO examiner. Fact: digi-phony-ca and Vplm both claimed to have done testing, but test results were never disclosed. Infringement can/will never be shown. Sorry charlie. Thems the breaks. Allow scammers to get away with everything from the git, is the key. Now count the never ending monkey wrenches instead of share dollars...
Emu thanks you. Wifey thanks you. Chang thanks you. The other benefitted insiders thank you and the supporting cabal thanks you. No one has ever had any interest whatsoever in the patents.....except digi-phony-ca and Vplm. The patents themselves, like most patents, are worthless. The STORY that accompanies them is the money maker, but not for retail.
I have recently posted, more than once, facts and figures straight from Vplm, revised figures, showing far more than the $250 billion in damages for only a handful of the alleged infringers. It was from 2017 or 18. Were you aware of that? Did you READ it? Do you comprende'? Did you IGNORE it? 250 bil doesn't even come close to the value in infringements CLEARLY stated and shown by the company. Do you disagree with the company figures???
In fact, I just rechecked that info and the revised damages for only 3 companies came close to $225 billion.
I guess you weren't paying attention that day
I predicted many times that the trials would not happen...
Boy, that was hard... not.
I also predicted, without fail, the unfortunate, unwanted, unexpected, unexplained, legal curveballs by warning of incoming monkey wrenches. Keep ignoring and see where it gets you. There's no magic or superpowers... There's no mandrakes or karnacs.. It's simply connecting the dots for the past 15 yrs and how Vplm is so transparent and an open book with respect to their scheming, even tho most of you see it as them being secretive and less than forthwith on info.
This is fun to a degree....
For those always clamoring for PRs, every PR since at least 2012, has been nothing but lies directly or indirectly. They have lost their ability to create good, persuasive lies, so the new MO is..... don't say nuthin. Our long faithful sheep, left to their own devices, seem to always find a way to let Vplm slide or to translate all happenings into pollyanna. So by not getting communications from Vplm, your not missing anything except more lies and misdirection. They just don't know how to hold it up anymore. I heard their personal insider ATM is down for repairs from overuse.
Alrighty....yet more infringement claims dismissed. Standby for the inevitable announcements about how great this is for vplm! Yipee!
Warned yest about the incoming........
For the past week or so, there has been no problem accessing Vplm website, using either the Voip-palusa.com. or Voip-Pal.com url's. They both worked and went to the exact same website, except ea site has one or the other url.
Right now, I cannot access the site with either url. Voip-Pal.com now redirects to Voip-palusa.com and produces this error msg:
"This site can’t provide a secure connection
www.voip-palusa.com sent an invalid response."
The "best position ever" company, Vplm, is nothing more than a bundle of problems for shareholders.
Vplm site is non accessable, at least from my device.
All these postings and pastings and legal mumbo jumbo are a complete and utter waste of time. The bottom line AND AS PREDICTED.....there ain't a nickel to be found for retail shareholders in all of it. It all amounts to nothing more than official communications that say: "VPLM...your decades long scheme has benefitted you and yours (the inside) and picked the pockets of your shareholders in order to pay for it as well as to pay the lawyers and other alleged support ppl, to their millions of dollars. It's been a complete raging success for you and an extremely expensive lesson for the shareholders and continues to be so.
"Successfully represented internet telecommunications company in obtaining favorable settlement in patent infringement action"
___________________________________________________
In terms of SHAREHOLDERS, would you kindly explain what exactly is the FAVORABLE part.
Tia
Are we ready for the next batch of monkey wrenches? Coming soon to a scheme near you... Keep those helmets close..
Sad, how much energy gets expended trying to figure out where your fortunes are..........knowing that it'll never happen for the shareholders, only for the insiders. Tsk, tsk, tsk.. But the abusive ones deserve every bit of it.
Simple reason the company never communicates with us.....
Is cuz it's a scam. There is no other plausible explanation.
Mic drop
Me.... ME.... ME...
Oh, that's easy.....
They know that the patents will never sell, license or be settled (in any serious way) and the only way to make bank is to SELL, BABY, SELL! as you buy, buy, buy! (the go fund me page contributors)
They're rollin'.........
Right into the emus pockets as they have been for the past dozen years...
Forgot to add....its also kind of off...for you to think that others post their views with the idea that they will change your mind somehow. I guess that might be true in some cases, but as far as I'm concerned, why in the world would I post stuff designed or intended to change your opinions? Of what possible benefit would that be? I can't see how it would affect me one way or the other. So your thought processes sound self centric like it's all about how you are affected. In the end, with all due respect, if you find others postings to be too repetitive or otherwise irritating, then why do you read them? If you simply block anyone who is not a Vplm cheerleader, you'll be in heaven.
Your assumption that his or anyone else's words are there to influence your opinions, shows that you are narrow minded. Are your expressed opinions here designed to influence anyone......or are they just your desire to express your opinions, regardless of who they do or don't influence? And does your constant posting to the pro side any less irritating to those who differ with your sentiments than the irritation you are showing when you accuse of repetitiveness? While there are a number of anti Vplm posters and it's an increasing number nowadays, unsurprisingly, there are far more pro vplm cheerleaders present. Do you not think they present an equally repetitive and provocative wall to be up against? And your also myopic conclusion that whether or not a poster owns shares is indicitive of their motives and that those motives are somehow nefarious.....is also fallacious on your part and a few others who have expressed that line of thought. I am one of the longest longs here and yet I am no longer pro vplm. There was a time when I was but not for long. And that fact was simply a matter of timing, as there was no apparent shenanigans going on when I got in, which was sometime before the acquisition, but it wasn't very long before the acquisition thing came up and Vplm committed the biggest lie I have ever seen in the stock market. It was far more a blatant lie than anything Bernie madoff did as his deeds were extremely stealthy so no one knew what was going on for a long time. Even the SEC couldn't figure him out and I believe it took them 4 investigations to finally unravel his scheme. But in vplm case, I found their lies obvious and blatant from the get go until the present, the get go being when the chang (ceo and president) acquisition PRs began and ran for almost 3 yrs chick full of one misleading lie after another, many of which I have posted here on numerous occasions
There are also other, indirect circumstances that reveal the impossibility of the patents being "all that", and "all that" has been very clearly defined by Vplm from way back as being technology easily worth upwards of a trillion dollars, using VPLM's own facts and figures, as I have also posted to support such contentions.
If, by chance, Vplm does indeed gain any money for shareholders due to infringement or other ways, it will be a tiny, totally embarrassing number that no one will smile about. More than likely thought, you will see nothing but the seaweed underwater. There's maybe a handful, like myself, who were smart enough or who wised up time to make some good money here by daytrading.
The only money making ability that vplm has and has ever shown, over many years, is that of creating fiat shares and directing them to themselves in a big way and selling them at huge profits. And that is all that will continue to ever happen here because that's what they set out to accomplish and they did it so well, it works and works and works. The patience is a virtue and Vplm is in its best position, crowd will continue to think that way, tho it's a dwindling crowd, and I for one, will continue to express my 100% honest viewpoint, which is just as worthy as your opinion.
Funny you should mention that as lord emu of eGipped keeps saying he is a founder of a cancer research company in Germany. He even gives the name. Strangely, the name is the same name of an actual biomedical cancer company in the US but they have zero to do with him in any way shape or form. I have done several hours of research to find ANY, REPEAT ANY, info about the company he founded in Germany, even the slightest MENTION of it.........but it seems to not exist... And I have noted that fact here several times and no one disputes it or cares. That is par for the course as most have always allowed the Emuster to get away with any and all of his BS claims. "not relevant", "not important", "not pertinent", "not material", etc etc. They purchase their karma and get free delivery!
" If anyone remembers MagicJack, that was a VOIP-PAL invention."
I don't know where you find your false info but Voip-Pal did not invent magic jack. You must do your DD in comic books.
In fact, vp never invented anything. Over the years, they buy or rent stuff and try to make money but always failed. They ONLY thing Vplm has ever been able to sell is a STORY to you and shares. Nothing else.
Not sure but I seem to remember something about approx $40K rcvd in searching the filings back then. Could be wrong.
Yeah, right! BS.. How about the pps is lower now than then so shareholders rcvd ZERO.
What a bunch of misdirection and deflection from the truth the fake newsers are always putting out and dummies swallow it.
Great question. Betting no one has an answer. I think the answer lies inside of lord emus pockets?
Why expect otherwise from a scam?
Almost down to subpenny now. Looks like an ever increasing number of shareholders finally see the truth and are exiting. Most won't admit it, it they see and I see the dive. It's a shame but most wouldn't listen to reason when all the lies and inconsistancies were presented. Then there's the rude crude nasties. They deserve...
Like I said before, the website is still "Voip-Pal.com". "Voip-palusa.com" also works and they both go to same site but have different names.
If it comes from Vplm, it automatically is fake news, as that is their MO and their ultimate legacy. If it comes from the avg self styled, self proclaimed "true long", it's fake news and/or ignorance. Most of the anti Vplm speak the truth or give somewhat supported opinion. There are a couple, well known, some stupidly revered, who, if their lips are moving or they can still fog a mirror, they are not only lying but get compensated for doing so. Disgusting Bastard(s).
Myself.....anti Vplm, long for close to 15 yrs, always tell the truth, have done much DD, have opinions and theories that I've supported and backed up with logic, critical thinking and by connective dotology. Most if not all of my calls and predictions and explanations have been proven true again and again over time, except for the ones you might see from time to time, not from me, but from a small number who fabricate and tell out and out lies, who gaslight, and who attribute things to me that were never said or twist what was said to their own decrepid agenda and therefore are never backed up with proof and that is how pure scoundrels and rats operate.
Almost everything Vplm has put out in the past is a downright lie or distortion of the truth and has been designed to support what vplm truly is.....which is a fiat share printing, share selling, self enrichment scheme with an insider ATM to boot. They even were found guilty of "unjust self enrichment" AND "breach of Fiduciary duty" BY A JURY OF THEIR PEERS and with lord emu of eGipped at the top of the list.