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i do believe you are right! at the minimum.
yea jerle, that was just a small nudge and they jumped. just wait till the real fireworks start. this is literally going to be priceless!
that is exactly right rstefan. just need to remember susman has never lost a case and he isnt going to start here.
i value your opinion too. can we agree to disagree? thats what being here is about. hearing all opinions, not bashing for it, and continue to be friends. :)
did you finally get it? great! its just my way. i was sincerely tired of being out of my position waiting on funds to settle and this works out perfectly, because youre always in your position and money's always turning over and you are never stagnant. it seems to work better because the mm's are so manipulative here, some days i am able to buy that much more with less.
the one thing we have is the truth and the constitution. we are due fair payment for what was stolen. and yes it was stolen. and yes these people will be millionaires! jealous? there is no pie in the sky here. why dont you answer the question.....why if this stock and company is soooo worthless are they working so hard to hide everything and change laws through congress for future f-ups of the fdic and fed reserve? this was no f-up this was war waged on the american taxpayer and citizen by world thugs. i will continue to believe in america and susman and the judge till we are vindicated.
you know there are always going to be people that think things could be greener. or maybe rosen promised them something. whoknows. i just think susman nipped it in the bud when it came to light. i like the fact willingham is still in it and fighting and susman is playing close to the vest. itonly takes one hit for a TKO. rosen is cocky now more than ever....i call it like i see it. FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT >>>>OR NOT!!
then who wants it? this stock is the most overworked,beat up and orchestrated stock to rosen's commands in court i have ever seen. this only shows the judge that viability of this company is there if the shareholders are still puting up with the rosen BS, buying the stock at all levels from 137.00 to 10.00, and are all still here... and will be here to the end...to include you, wmi is golden!!!! so if their is not a payout why are you working so hard at nothing for nothing? or is it something for something? which is it?
even at these levels, since the stocks were all taken down to the exact same levels (percentage wise). this is an ideal stock to flip for days. in every takedown for the last 2 years, the preferreds take the lead. ive already flipped 50,000 uq's for 635 pq's. when this races back up i will sell 1/2 of that to flip back into commons to double the original shares i had. dont look at the price look at the percentage. we are still at the same equality in price to commons and preferreds. just flip the stock and always only play with a third to half of any one position at a time so you are never out of either position if settlement happens. and if you flip only 1/3 pref into commons then commons into preferreds (playing them off each other) you are never left sitting waiting on settlement of funds. because every third day flip you are working with the first days settlement. hope that makes sense.
jpm, gs, and scottrade are definitely short. without the cusip numbers they could very well reorganize with a new one and that would out the "air" shorters without cusip numbers and then criminal charges could be brought for gross manipulation. this was a controlled leveling of the stock for the impending settlement. nothing more. you tell me why after the examiners report was put on the internet at approx 130p that the stock wasnt downed then? the mm's wanted a controlled leveling and shorted to that level the next day. can you say entrapment how can pq's,uq's,and kq's all be taken down simultaneously and at the same percentage across the board? jpm and their offshore shells want the shares for themselves and be damned for anyone else.
and i believe the 2 ec memebers were asked to resign after susman found out they were being talked to by rosen. he wanted that conflict of interest gone. is rosen not doing to the ec what he intially did to the bod? conflict everyone out and then there is no one left to fight the battle. divide and conquer! thats why i feel susman took care of business so rosen wouldnt have informants from the other side working for him. just like attorneys find fault in jurors to throw them off the case to get a new trial for their clients. i think susman is doing his job. and being one of the top 10 attorneys in the world isnt bad either! i feel very comfortable in his future success. this is all smoke and mirrors and a controlled takedown of the price of the stock so the shorts can jump ship fast when the settlement comes down. jmo.
who is the attorney retained or has the potential to be retained? and who is the overseer of the fund?
now is not the time for jokes! lol. lets leave that for vegas.
i received a packet tonight from scottrade. it had my wampq shares on the paper. but all the info was an amendment for wamuq shares from null and void to a par value of .00001. seems theyre setting up wamuq for settlement too? it wasnt the same as the previous ballot for wampq.i already voted that down. is this what you received tonight too?
take it in dont mail. i certainly dont trust that it will be done properly that way. i get the name of the agent handling it so i am covered and so are they.
take the cover sheet that says do not mail. thats proof you own the shares. then get the gray packet pages 5-7 fill it out check to "reject the plan" and leave the "opt out" box blank. if you have other shares at another institution you need to disclose that on the middle part of page 5 so the shares arent counted twice. take it to the brokers office. also make sure you make them copy the ballot so you have proof you voted with the way you voted. that's it!
i dont think its about the vote at all it is all about the releases. and on another front....i dont know if anyone remembers back in aug when i said i was talking to scottrade about paying taxes in advance on payout. he said well nov isnt far from dec so i would pay early to get it out of the way. he volunteered this i had no clue what he was talking about because it was aug. seems the 23rd of nov is looking promising because they know a trial is brewing for dec 1st with discovery, also with actual asset numbers and facts. facts they dont want made public!
willingham is still there but two are resigning from the posts ive read today.
it looks like the EC is stepping down because they are no longer needed. i feel jpm and fdic got their "cover" from the lacking examiner report and the media spin on the web. now they have to settle. they have to get the mortgages they stole from wamu legitimized by being the actual noteholder and not just servicer of the loan. you cant foreclose or sell a foreclosure, or any mortgage for that matter, if your not the legitimate owner. and when the mortgage thing started jd said it would take about 3 weeks to resolve. well this is the third week and 48 attorneys general are breathing down jp morgans neck wanting answers.
i do believe with that bit of info....a settlement is imminent! jmo
you dont send it to the recording house...they do. take it to the scottrade office, have them copy your ballot, before you leave so you have proof to take home with you what you actually voted for. they are supposed to upload your request to this recording facility that tabulates the vote. and scottrades cut off is the 11th. even though it says the 15th, they need 4 days to get the transaction where it needs to go. the broker told me that if i bring it in on the 15th it would not be counted!
i thought sheila was "butch?" she certainly has more balls than jaime thats for sure.
there is a computer application out there that will restore the document and effectively peel the blackout off. i read about it in the paper. i'm going to try and find it on the web.
i think its rosen too! the examiner doesnt talk like that. he just states facts not personal opinion especially to shareholders. i think the "report" is written by rosen but the footnotes are hochberg's. and i think the solvent comment was a signal to the "air share" shorts to GET OUT! jmo.
jpm announces earnings of 4.4 billion for 3rd quarter. dont they mean wamu's earnings!
then you should have a ballot. the ballots come from your brokerage. if you dont get anywhere talking over the phone go into a branch office and demand the branch manager get to the bottom of why you havent received it. you want your shares to count!
did you buy your shares prior to oct 18th? because if its the 18th or after you have no voting rights on your shares.
no i received a big fat envelope in the mail from scottrade with a copy of the court docs. different attorneys representing different people in the lawsuit had their take on voting the shares and a ballot was included, but no return envelope. so i hand carried it to my brokers office.
i dont mean mailing it i mean hand carrying it to a scottrade office. if you mail it i would send it certified with a return receipt signature, so you know when and who received it.
i went to my scottrade office today. they have to send it to a recording house that then sends the count forward. the date on the ballot says return by the 15th but it really needs to be in by the 11th for processing. fill out the ballot for pq's and kq's only. make sure and get a copy of your ballot before you leave so you have proof you didnt "opt out." i was afraid someone would check the box after the fact, so i asked for a copy of my signed ballot before i left the office. my broker said their was no confirmation to send me of the transaction but as long as the ballot is in their office by the 11th it will have enough time to be recorded. just check "reject the plan" and leave the opt out box unchecked when voting.
i had the same question and left messages on the voicemail at susmans office for a clarification...with no reply yet.
diamond, did you get your ballot? i have a question. on the opt out clause it is very much double speak. if you check the box you are not opting out. but the box says "opt out".and if you leave it blank you are allowing a release of liability. which is it? i've left messages at susmans office to please clarify this clause. do you know what should be done?
no my 3000 share pref got an informational ballot! i called scottrade and they seem to not have information on it?
L, was this just a BS mailing? there is no return address for the ballot. i called scottrade and they said it was an "informational" ballot only not to send it in. i know the president of scottrade is affiliated with jpm. do you think this is true?
i think by what i read its if you opt out it releases and you cant sue in the future. i cant make heads or tails of it. i just know im getting thr run around from scottrade, kurtzman carlson, and i have a call into susman godfrey to please answer my question on the address for returning the ballot and the opt out clause. we will see. i hope don can enlighten us as to what should be done. thank you though. sf
I THINK THAT THING PUT OUT YESTERDAY WAS TO COVER JPM AND FDIC'S COLLECTIVE ASSES SO THEY DONT GET SUED IN THE FUTURE.THE FOOTNOTES THOUGH WERE VERY ENLIGHTENING. he did findthings we didnt know about.
L, i believe it will add up just fine if they want to keep what they stole. im figuring 100/shr common with the dominion thing that just came out. jmo. if 30 bil was for 560 banks what are 2200 banks worth with damages? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
i received my ballot today.there is no address to return or a return envelope. does anyone know where to send this ballot? i called kurtzman and they said it would not be sent to the los angeles office.( where i called the number provided in the packet.)
absolutely right. the "public" has one copy with scathing footnotes. and all i had to see was that we were solvent.that is all that matters. the judge has the real copy of the unredacted numbers and inquiries imo. they have to paint it rosey for jpm and fdic because geithners days are numbered and JD is the only power hungry one for the job. also they have to cover themselves from future lawsuits too. i feel susman allowed this out today for the press opportunity so jpm could get out the "word". (cover shorts!) now its our turn and susman will see this to fruition. this examiners report was no report at all. with the minimal info why put anything out at all? unless it needed to be done when all eyes seem to be on other things like the ELECTION! this was so apparent. have we not been saying this thing was going to dip on a holiday or event when they could get the smear campaign out to "clear" themselves? the smoking gun is still smoking imo. it's still in the shareholders back! our turn is coming and we will be paid...but quietly...no asset lists,no liability, no fault, just cash in our accounts with no appology. and i still feel the 364 billion number they said taxpayers were going to be out for fre and fnm is actually the payout to "consume" wmb and wmi entirely. all my opinion but i truly believe the truth will prevail.
no it doesnt look legit. i wouldnt put it past rosen to put out this junk then redact it. with no recorded file number they can wipe it out like it never happened. sounds like investor groups needed to get out of their "air shares" before the true numbers come out. i believe in this stock and the numbers dont lie...people do. i added 85,000 uq.s and 500 pqs today. this was another ploy to destroy shareholders and if you sold you played right into their grubby little hands.