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i dont really see anything dramatically different but the good press helped as you can all see. i think we may drift down during the week if you are a trader sell here and repositon. myself im staying with my shares. thats all folks
the climate for fannie is indeed improving and while ten bucks may not happen i think a dollar or two is possible in a year. go fnma.daddy needs a veyron....
i bought it with money i can and most likely will lose. but it may go id say a 100 1 long shot with a potential for a few bucks or zero.
well said
you can see the stock is stronger and growing in price and interest.
its been warm and nice which is no good for me. i need cold icy snowy and bad. you wouldnt believe me if i told you why. but anyway ill check the other thing. i usually instocks do the opposite of normal. i buy junk i buy when its nus.like trading on lsd. and usually i do great. anyway according to my intel this will be ripe for sale within two years at about 89 cents. we got over ninty cents on the last big sale..god bless
i dont disagree with anything you have said but as i have pointed out it dont matter. since when does the us govt obey the law. when does fair honest and decent enter into any federal banking policies actually foolowed. nope. in teh end the sleazo crooks will screw us all. at least ill make a few bucks and have a nice sandwhich at panera.
face it big money big power is behind the scam in the end they will scew the tax payer worse
i suppose if you have the money for a real hi power lawyer you will get justice. if you are a poor slob your screwed you will be homeless. in the end i dont care what becomes of fannie i just need 80 cents and im good to go for a long time
the lawyers will twist this and turn it to the favor of mr rich scumbvo
all true but my only concern is the stock
well said but in the end what it all boils down to is if someone is willing to buy this stock above 22 cents i win
i usually come into stuff when its not popular. this is no different. i think you and i are the only ones here. wow its lonely. good wishes
kelly do you own the stock now at a long position.
i am into this as a great speculation. nothing more. it has a shot in the dark to make some big money. i dont think it will ever fully recover but a b uck or two or t hree yes.
folks i would like to see rodney get cancer and die
kellly how many loans do you feel are uncollectable not all
ok i see your point and in many cases you are right the loan under the conditions you state are in fact not collectable. yes i see what you mean i misunderstood. in time many of these loans but not all will be wiped out. yes you have avery very valid issue here. under your scenario many consumers are being beat for money not owed correct
a person enters into an agreement to buy a home. the prices are very high and the market is nuts. its a supply demand market economy the consumer accepts the price and buys the home. as the markeet falls to crap the consumer says no i was robbed this million dollar home is only worth half i wont pay. is htat the deal. hey id like my money back on my building did i get ripped. but you cant have half of america walk away from a obligation they agrred to. hey it sucks but is the bank the devil because they loaned the money. money was ez cheap and everyone was lending. do you want the country to go bust. all loans must be repaid. no matter what the defect which in this case is the banks gave credit to anyone. they still gave credit. is a bank a devil for just loaning anyone money. hey any of my employees hits me up for a loan i give it out. i get beat fromtime to time.
kelly i have t agree with every single thing you have said. its all very true. but as a mover and shaker its very sad to see such greed and dishonesty pay. i go very fast in my car but the cops never write me a ticket. i can go wild stuff and its cool. why because i am me and i give money to everyone. i buy vests for the cops i give pies and gifts to all. i should get a nice fat speed ticket but i get a friendly hey slow down you old buzzard. the banks are crooks yup they are and the lawyers are well i cant say in the forum but greed will win. i am looking to keep fannie for ten years and most llikely it will go under and be toilet paper. but it may go up. its a great speculation. thats it. peace to all. my sacd music hall player just died. yuk..
there are many lawyers who agree with you. in time we will see what happens.
so what you are saying is if you buy a candy bar in a korean store that says five bucks you dont have to pay for it. for whatever reason if you buy anything you sign any note you have to pay. thats the deal no one forces someone to borrow from a loan shark at wild rates. you have to pay what you agree to. granted its unfair you cant justify the american public living in free homes the system wont work. in time those that dont pay will be in homeless shelters. i cant see your reeaoning. whatever the issues are and some with good lawyers will get a free home my buddy bob v beat the bank they were unable to find the paper. yup. but overall you cant let everyone underwater out the door free. nope. but hey its far from over and you may be right. who knows. we will see. i have this stock so i am looking to profit. if not its fine.
you have to look at both sides here. joe shmucko decides to buy a home. no one holds a gun to his head he decided to buy a crap levitt house for 499k. he signs and accepts the price and agrees to pay the loan however absurd. he makes a desicon to buy the house at some wild price. i mean i paid ten grand for a beanie baby names humprey which is now worth about a hunred buks. hey i really did. so now the market falls apart and joe says hey i dont want to pay for my underwater home that the bank loaned me money to buy. he wants to walk away. hey i mean if you buy you sign you agree you are the owner you have to pay what you agreed or it gets taken back by the lein holder. all aside thats the deal beanie baby or real estage. if you bought some crap and it does not work out you still hve teh moral and legal obligatoin to pay oyour debt if you cant pay well whose fault is that. in the end this is a neat chapter in a wild sage. one day the sun will burn out and the earth will get sucked into the black whole. but untll then man is man. sit back in five years maybe ten this will play out win lose or draw i got lots of this turd and i will get a laff either way. its a gamble. the banks suck the fannie guys suck and the whole thing sucks. but its the best we got. if you look at a investor list of who owns fannie you would be shocked at hom many shares some real wild dudes own. i mean go to a meeting sometime and you will see some real wild dudes. real wild. bow down and hail the fannie.
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oxford chrysler public service of just about anyone with a nuke that went bad spongetech and bllb which was bad news and just a loss and lets not forget wnbd what a shame.
fnma is a great speculaton and i think it will wind up at a few bucks. buy it hold it and bet on americas future.
can anyone tell me how many shares are outstanding
can anyone tell me what the earnings look like thank you
well honestly legally im sorry to say in the end joe six pack will lose his her home to the powerful sleazly lawyers who will steal the property. joe six pack on is clan is no match for the low life sleeze the banks will roll out. despite the bad paper illigal robo signers and the lot in the end the average hard working guy will get screwed like he always does. honestly id like to see the world go as you say it would be fair and in the end ill just blow my profits on this on a new car and a few new toys. i cant disagree with anything you have said you are very insightful and bright. but we come back to the same thing. you are on the planet earth where good losses over evil . the thugs will win. but we will see. i hope you are right i dont have a mortgage i owe no one. god bless. lets hope we come out of this stronger as a nation and our children can buy a home. i mean i have kids and i want their world to be better than the one i grew up in. best wishes. god bless all
well as i have said before you have a really good grasp of the injustice and horror caused by the banks. each point you have made is in fact true. there is not one thing you have said that is not correct. however you forget you are on the planet earth where truth justice and the american way dont always win. it is as i have said a crap shoot a gamble and a big roll of the dice. if there was any real justice here it would go as you say but im sorry buddy the banks and corrupt evil powers that lurk will in the end sieze ralphs house and rent it back to him. i mean its a shot and in the end you may be right. the stock is in fact toilet paper with no actual value. but that does not mean it wont go up.
what we have here is a big fat group of crooks that defrauded the american public for a long time and in the end it blew up
maybe it will go under and if it does thats cool it will wind up with the other 323 grand of bad stuff i bought that is now a long term loss carryover on someones 1040---its just a speculation in american greed and corruption. i bet some where some one comes up with a way to steal more momey and savee fannie.
in the end i respectg your views. you have a genuine insight into this but most of the money i made was on total junk that i b ought while tripping on psychedelics.i mean you gotta be on mushrooms to buy this crap. but it may go up.
on a positive note i had a white shirt really killed at the buffet and the dry clean did not do the job yet the winning brand product i bought did make her nice and white.
best wishes to all
i see the us govt pouring more billions into this so they can make a huge profit. the interest fannie pays is more than they take.
its just a great speculation. i give 10 percent of all my profits to the food banks so lets see this go up so i can do some good and make some hungrey folks a burger.
kelly our government is too corupt to deal with real issues. they will do what will line their greedy pockets. cheney killed grumman to feed his own lockheed. killed 100k jobs on li. they dont care they will save fannie and prop up the banks they own and pump the taxpayer for it all.
i need a new rolex and some new cars so lets support the whole corrupt thing and just let some poor folks get a mortgage. there is no way to fix this and clear this in a sane business like way.
the taxpaper is going take it in the shorts once again. but hey i get a new patek or some other toys. ive had a tuff life and i deserve to get some clambooos...we need housing for the masses
we need to preserve home ownership for the comman guy.
ralph kramden needs a house.
you are a smart cookie but reality and common sense dont work here.
recent press and media coverage all point in a positive direction for fannie with the fat cats trying to come up with some plan to save themselves. the us govt owns most of this and its in their best interest to save fannie.
i need a veyron. lets go up.
the american dream needs to live.
more or less my time here is over. in the big big picture this was the worst pick of my career. it just sukced. bad new bad managment bad bad bad bad. i will stop by from time to time but i think its just all over.
kelly you are a learned and wise man and every thing you say is true. however you are on the planet earth and here on earth nothing makes any sense. it just dont matter. the forces that be will turn this in one way or another and in the end anything can and may happen. you may see every forclosed illigal or not home go rental and fannie may be the biggest rental agent on earth. who knows. its a throw of the dice. i grew up in poverty beyond your worst nightmare we ate out of dumpsters and we were happy to get the dumpster food we did. now with my rolex my cars my lloyd harbor mansion andmy mamas i am a happy dude thanks to wild long shot bizaro stocks like this. anything may happen kelly it does not have to make any sense. you just need some one to buy it and thats it.
lets face it folks this is a dead turkey rodney and his family killed her. it was pumped and dumped leaving us all the suckers. very sad you can still buy the stuff but with billions of shares its dead meat. i dont own any of this crap anymore. its gone. as are others. i will stop by once in a while to say hi. god wishes.
overall what is really important here is to preserve the american dream for our young....home ownership for all...anyone with a job even a humble janitor deserves to own his her own home and not rent. to make this a reality we need fannie and freddie or all the blue collar middle class will be forced to rent from mr rich guy who owns it all. we need to step back and try to make this mess go away in some reasonable form to all. we cant let the banks take the full hit they will all go under and leave a bigger mess. we cant wipe out everyone. we need to try to save lots of folks maybe rent out the houses that have been left until they recover money wise and move on. over time it may happen but as you have pointed out and you are correct in every single post you made they are under water or have a net worth of close to negative a hundred dollar bill per share. ouch...that does not mean it wont go up. you gotta see some of the crap i have made money on. i do feel i will get a veyron out of this and my pomeranian and i will cruise in her and blow our noses at the world. pommie needs a nicer ride than the 64 vette she now cruises in. god bless and hey who knows. this is money i wrote off i think its just such a high risk it most likely will go under but you never know. god bless good wishes
kelly if it goes as you say private home ownership will cease to exist. thats all folks. i say my cash is going to get me a new veyron. yup
there is a new move in laundry detergent which will be to sell the product in packs like the dishwasher packs one use per pack. many retailers are starting to remove tide and other popular jugs of soap in favor of this new trend. while i dont now own this issue i will follow you folks over the time and see what happens. i have seen the stock here very high and i have seen it here. i wish all holders good fortune as the stock market is a huge universe where anything can happen.
all true but the point is if i sell higher than i buy im ok. thats all folks.
kelly you live in america where nothing has to make sense at all. worthless junk goes up and good stuff goes down. its a great speculation the fact that it is toilet paper does not matter just what some nuckelhead will pay for it. they may turn all the crap realestae into the biggest real estate rental firm in the world it may go worthless. who knows i sold last for 90 cents some a bit better and im back in about here. may go under may go up. i am rolling the dice come on 7
kelly given a few years this is an interesting speculaton. thats all it will be. it may go back to some value it may go under. god bless
over the decades i have made an awful lot of money buying junk. i bought every major electric utility co. when they were nearly ch 11 and this included cincinnatti gas and electric as well as pub service of indiana and in the end more exotic cars showed up in my lloyd harbor house on fiddlers green. some were a loss you cant win all the time but when oxford and every other health care co went to nothing i scooped them up and held and yes more boats planes and cool watches like patek and vach showed up. this is a great speculation because its so crooked and just whacked. yes normal common sense says they are 95 bucks a share in the whole but this is the usa where nothing makes sense. the terminator is the governor of calif and mr obama is our cheif. who knows s. this is a speculation. it may go it may not. you buy a few million shares and you take a shot. this is one risky play not for blue collar guys looking for an ira investment. a person buying this horse crap should be warned this is for someone who can afford to sustain the total loss of his investment. no more no less. most of the houses they will in time foreclose and rent out are not legal to do so but htey are all crooks . rockerfeller was the biggest crook we ever had did he go to jail no he and his crooked family now own half the usa. but hey its america you gotta love it. so if you dont like the stock dont own it or sell it short if you can. these days i dont own much. mostly i buy real estate now. i guess im a modern carpet bagger. im buying all the homes of the folks who beat me up as a child and made fun of my poor mom and dad with their ford pinto washing dishes and me on free lunch and food stamps. now i have the last laff and the best of all. i can buy their home for about 45 cents on the dollar and rent it back to the same poor souls i stole it form all nice and legal . fannie is a pisser. honestly most likely it iwll go belly up its doomed but hey for a half million bucks its a great speculation. i will stop back from time to time give it five years who knows. god bless and best wishes.