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Not one chance in 10,000? I have two lawyers on the ready line to go after our heroes. I've known both for more than 20 years.
Complicated matters? What the heroes have done is so deliberately directed at MW AND the shareholders, proving intent will be easy. Not to mention the result which supports the shareholder's case. It's a no brainer!
Hmmmm with all the information released so far, we're racing to no bid and another defunct Lumb scam. There's been "talk" of cash flow for months now (next week, next month...) and still nothing. As I've said in the past, the only cash flow is from your pockets to Lumb, Lowenthal and Blom.
Very sad. Hate to see loyal shareholders duped.
Valuation based on what? Virtual revenues? The balance sheet doesn't look good at all! AS/OS almost equal, no value from mining, why not change directions? Let's try gaming! We have no experience at it, we'll buy a failing company and use shares to buy it...wanna know "who" ain't buying it? Investors! They're tapped out and want proof and not bogus pr's
There's no shorting, the scammers are diluting
Actually it can and will happen, ergo the counter suit. AND the judge has the right to order the prosecutor to investigate criminal charges.
If this were true in any sense, there'd be a filing for the SEC to investigate.
Wishful thinking. This one's dead in the water.
I guess we'll see when the court case comes. PV found out the hard way.
As for the BK, speaking with my lawyers, it ain't going to happen. It'll be thrown out in the first minutes of the first hearing and then the plaintiffs will be liable and it would turn on them.
Btw, there are people looking for JS. He owes a ton of money out there to several people. I've just received his address from our mutual acquaintance. I'll be contacting his debtors and rallying the people he owes to force him into bk. He owes LG more than $5k and LGs family member $100k. I've also found others he owes more than another $20k from his past business dealing. Time to return the favor.
Truth is, these are people found in general conversation. Time to pull everyone together and give JS a little taste of his own potion.
Actually as stated on numerous occasions, there's a mountain of proof! Our heroes have at least two firms hired to try and weasel their way out of this. Their finding out there's just no way out.
To be honest, JS will be the one hurt the most by this. He's so deeply involved now, he's going to get the max sentence. I am messaging MW for the shareholders to be at the sentence hearing. The deliberate and callous behavior he's done was done without a single care for the shareholders. In many cases, he knowingly hurt and continues to hurt the shareholders.
Payback is coming! He'll meet me face to face! I'm told he's a chicken ..... so he'll probably .... his pants.
Looks like another t-0-1 day, then no bid again.
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MW put OUR TOTAL COMPANY at RISK!!! (I quite agree. He hire JS, trusted him and at the time, never thought he'd have to look over his shoulder and watch his back. Do you deny this? You make MW out to be the culprit, but there's a reality check. JS had a function, had been hired to HELP MW! So he brought SA into the game THEN collaborated WITH SA to either take over or destroy the company! This was a set up from the beginning and it's still going on! Answer theses questions: 1) what was JS function? 2) what did JS do to get booted? 3) show me one bit of proof JS or SA is concerned about the shareholders)
> IFUS GUARANTEED THE $250,000 LOAN from the boot brothers - can you imagine SHAREHOLDERS NOT KNOWING THIS MATERIAL ITEM???
> (there's more to this than what your telling, it's not this simple. The shareholders know what MW did with the money it's all accounted for! You mentioned "boot brothers." Show me proof JS lent the company anything.)
> WHAT ELSE ARE MW and RW HIDING for personal gain and EGO??? - "PLENTY" as they lie, slander and "take no prisoners" that object to them. (Show me one lie MW or RW told or posted. Where's the proof they did anything for personal gain with IFUS. Show me the slander.)
> MW and RW do NOT care about shareholders and if ALL GOES BAD FOR IFUS - "your absolutely correct" - MW and RW will go on to their next victims (consistent with their 15 year track records) and OUR SHAREHOLDERS will get wiped out (as our shareholders do not DESERVE) (everything I've known about MW from credible sources, he's legit! I don't know RW so can't say. But I personally have a mutual acquaintance of JS. I've known the guy a long time and I trust what he says about JS to be accurate. JS is a woman beating backstabbing con artist. Period!)
> MUCH has been HIDDEN FROM SHAREHOLDERS by MW and RW - AND JUST MAYBE, "fraud") - NOT the purpose of investing!!! Do YOU THINK??? (I quite agree, but not for long. SA and JS will both face a new round of legal battles with the shareholders.)
(Is like some explanation. I've responded to your posts...)
Last year
Heard that since lady year
Forensic accountant? What's his name? There are only 8 good ones I the US and I know 5 personally, I contract them for a risk management firm. The cost to bring these guys in is enormous! Starting in some cases at $5,000 per day plus expenses!
So tell me who this is....
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There are no good or acceptable reasons for IFUS not posting financials. (From a legal perspective, there is...as stated several times) As we all can see, it doesn't make one bit of difference to the court case whether they post them or not. (Actually it does. Speaking for yourself maybe, but shareholders who've done solid DD and who truly understand the legal process truly know the why's and wherefor's, it's a no brainer) Because the court has ordered that they be prepared and available for scrutiny by the Plaintiffs. (And you know this by how? I understand something completely different. My attorney's monitoring the case and has a file of our own) The only ones hurt by MW/RW failing to report in the normal fashion all these years were their own shareholders. (I'm a major shareholder...nope, not hurt!)
About that supposed "executive decision" that was supported by shareholders. Just when was that made? What shareholders supported that decision? When was the vote taken? (It was done and the booty brothers know it. It was handed to them with their a$$ when the bomb went off and they were told to leave)
As for BK; we'll see. BK is designed to protect assets as well as provide relief. (Nothing to wait for, it won't happen. JS and SA will be financially strapped I can say that...as well as criminally strapped...then they face the shareholders) The question is ... are there any assets to protect? (There are. Solid DD will solve that) There are more than enough creditors with money judgments of record to force a BK. (that's an interesting comment. Not true but interesting) The question is, will they? Also, MW/RW might now find it in their best interests to voluntarily file a BK. (I don't see that. IFUS is a lot stronger that you've expressed. Again, solid DD dictates very different) Especially if that would throw the pending court case off the tracks and allow them to avoid having to produce the financial information for which the court has asked. (We'll see how this plays out in court. The booty brothers are in a fix. I see this playing out end of the year. I'll remind you of this stuff then)
I rely on my own DD and not from blog rhetoric. My DD methods are solid and I can say IFUS as a company is solid, as well are it's leaders.
I've explained the many legitimate reasons why IFUS posting financials would be inapproriate to post until all legal matters are closed....
The company with support from its shareholders made its executive decision long ago to rid themselves of the boot brotheres and thats not goint to change.
As for this bankruptcy notion, where otheres would get their hands on the equipment, the assets and such.....not happening.
Shareholders who have done their DD already know.
It's an interesting omission that it's here say. I'd ask if it's reasonable to believe it'll be anything BUT here say?
Amazing how here say works. A letter of demand goes to a lawsuit in light speed! Common sense dictates if it's not posted on the clerk's web, it's not a lawsuit lol.
I'm like you, I don't buy or sell on here say, only fact. And if the information came from the booty brothers...even worse. So with that, I'm holding!
As I've said in the past, consider the source. As far as I'm concerned they mounted their offensive when they collaborated their illegal activities, got caught, got booted, got counter sued, soon to be got prosecuted, got broke, got sentence and finally got sent to jail. So their next offensive will be from prison.
The evidence is clear and literally, there's no escaping this. Having a criminal firm on the payroll for a civil case is NOT an offensive tactic, it's purely defensive. They're using them to avoid anything criminal being brought in discovery AND not violate rules of discovery. That has serious financial implications for that alone.
To be honest, I've never seen a criminal firm in a civil case being used tactically - offensive. Why not just feed the DA? It's free and they have resources to investigate. And using a forensic accountant....please! Not even plausible to consider....considering you've stated consistently the company income is less than $40k....where's the value? How much criminal books cooking can you do with less than $40k? Not like he took the corporate leer jet and went to the Bahamas...or hid money in the Isle of Man lol.
Yeah both are shells owned by Lumb and Lowenthal lol
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CLOUSEAU / the "genius"- at it AGAIN
When you have "NOTHING" to talk about / LETS ATTACK A LENDER / JAIL, espionage, tortuous acts and CIA violations for the boot brothers. (As much damage as these guys did to the company, I think it's worth repeating over and over. MW has done a great job fixing their mess AND growing the company! Should we rely on the booty brothers? Let's also NOT forget the shareholders supported them getting tossed AND continue to support this action!
THE boot brothers are GONE for Over 1 YEAR and STILL the "ONLY" TOPIC!!! (Again, the damage they caused took a lot of work to fix. It's still getting done!)
1 -- REVENUES for bagasse for 2013 UNDER $40,000 (VERIFIED and NOT $1,500,000 as reported - some might say a "pump and dump" by the the reporter / let's see what the SEC says) and for 2014 thru 6/30/14 of LESS than $40,000. (Verified by who? By what official company released document? To be honest, first year revenues after fixing a mess....good job MW!)
2 -- ABANDONMENT of the major corporate asset of the "patent" - NO provisional patent filed - as MW and RW would NOT PAY patent attorney.
ALL hidden from shareholders until the boot brothers legal case exposed the true facts including no product insurances, withholding taxes paid and "on and on" (non issue as far as I'm concerned. The production process is unique so the patent needs to stay confidential. Smart management decision...more solid work)
WHAT CEO does not pay the patent attorney and "ABANDONS" the MAJOR CORPORATE ASSET??? - only MW and RW and hide it from ALL!!! (One that is cost conscious, has a company plan and follows it)
3 -- OUR CEO, CFO, CHAIRMAN for OVER 5 years went bankrupt in 2013, had foreclose and liens AND HE IS the "ONLY" officer and director of IFUS - and SOLE check signer for over 5 years -- this is OUR MANAGEMENT - IMAGINE!!! (What happens in his personal life is the big "so what?" The company isn't in foreclosure, not bankrupt...again, so what. In fact, I'm told the guy out all he had into the company to make it work. His investment will pay off to the shareholder's benefit. What's the downside if that?)
AFTER-ALL - what else can WE DISCUSS??? (The boot brothers! Their backstabbing, underhanded, dirty, lowdown illegal stuff! Both are greedy thieves who deserve to go to jail. Yep and they are scared! Hiring a criminal law firm ....but that's not going to help.)
(As a shareholder, I'll tell you my perspective. These two tried to harm the company and what's interesting is this has NEVER been refuted! It's been said there's no evidence. I beg to differ, there's plenty! And it's solid! Points of interest as to why? Let's talk about the criminal law firm in place for 9 months? Why? If there's not one shred of evidence, why hire a criminal law firm? Next, the counter suit. Why counter sue unless there's evidence? Why not just settle? Makes no sense to counter unless you have a case! Shareholders. Shareholders took a position that MW was and is our guy! The booty brothers....got caught and got booted! WITH the support of the shareholders! That action is supported to this date! The rest...)
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That's all total gibberish pushed by the MW/RW cabal. (Clarify who this please for the 10th time) Not one shred of evidence exists to prove, or even indicate, any of those outlandish allegations against the Boom Brothers. (And so the counter suit is filed for what? The prosecutor is involved for what? SA has a criminal legal team in place for what?....) In the meantime, lets not lose sight of the fact that this case is about non-payment of a debt and breach of a contract for repayment. (It goes deeper than that...see counter suit) There is an ocean of history to show that non-payment of debt is a way of life for MW. just look at all the judgments against him/IFUS for non-payment. in all likelihood, there will be more judgments to follow. (I doubt it..not one shred of evidence to show there will be either).
BTW, what shareholders supported the supposed MW/RW purge action against Ol' Joe and SA? Where is the record stating such? When was the vote taken and how was it taken? (As a non shareholder, you don't have access to this. But! SA and JS know who they are...ask them)
Here's a little tidbit that speaks volumes about the underlying character of those who are running IFUS. Why would anyone partner up with some one like Tony Boyden to begin with? I'm even told that there was a serious romantic involvement. This information is taken from a news paper article and sited in a post. I've already provided the link a few days ago ... but I'll be happy to post it again, if you wish: (quite frankly that's a company I don't know about, don't care to know about or it's negative connotation)
The Dimples saga was surely one of the most bizarre to hit the stock
market this decade, although it has some stiff competition. The
company was started in 1989 by Rhonda Maxwell, who later changed
her name to Rhonda Windsor-Maxwell. Ms. Maxwell decided that
what the world needed was biodegradable cloth diapers, and she set
out to design some, called Dimples.
She enlisted the help of a former construction company executive
named Tony Boyden, who in turn brought in an Ontario businessman
he had gotten to know: Douglas Elliott. In true Dimples fashion, one of
the reasons Mr. Boyden recruited Mr. Elliott was that Mr. Boyden was
awaiting trial on a charge of counselling to commit murder (he was (yawn, so what? What does any of that have to do with current IFUS? What does/did Tony have to do with IFUS? Nothing from what I gather. Only thing relevant is JS and SA are going to jail and will lose everything! The shareholders who intend to go after them next (I guess we're the cabal but would like for YOU to clarify) are not going to back off until they fix the wrongs they've done to the Company and it's Shareholders. The evidence is very clear, what they've done maliciously to damage the company has had an affect on the shareholders. They've broken several laws in the process and will be forced to pay for it. Major Shareholders (like me) are going to want damaged for this! You can discuss MW a you want. Regardless of what's settled with MW, the shareholders want justice, so if SA is hiring legal teams like he did for PV, JS and himself, he wi soon need to get more. What they've done and continue to do to harm the company and the shareholders is unacceptable! Intolerable and will be dealt with severely!)
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The boot brothers are the "plaintiff"
IFUS (as usual) is the "defendant" (the boot brothers are the defendants in the counter suit, they will also be the defendants when the shareholder suit is filed)
IFUS / delays / delays / delays - to DIVERT THE TRUTH!!! (Not once has ifus filed to delay)
The boot brothers want their $250,000 PLUS, PLUS, PLUS. (Yes and the "plus, plus, plus" is the tech! They know what they did after they lent the money. They deliberately put every obstacle in play to prevent the company of moving forward)
IFUS has filed a proposed "gag" order to be heard by the court in late September - so MW and RW can hide from ALL SHAREHOLDERS. (The shareholders don't see it this way)
THE boot brothers have NOTHING TO HIDE, as they want ALL SHAREHOLDERS to fully understand what MW, RW and SON have done to JEOPARDIZE OUR Company. (The shareholders already know. The boot brothers DO have things to hide, thus the counter suit)
There was a "GUARANTEED"
that PV would NEVER go to trial and if he did; PV would go to jail, pay treble damages and reimburse OUR Company all the legal costs - OF WHICH NONE OCCURRED!!! (PV lost the case, end of discussion! Who cares about the rest)
And now you say
I have found the prefect theme song for the bungling boot brothers, ol'joe and steve adelstein, ex IFUS and IFUS Subsidiary directors.... that tried to steal IFUS (Supreme Energy Subsidiary) from IFUS shareholders (criminal felony industrial espionage).
(Yes they did! It's been proven, the CEO WITH support of the shareholders took appropriate action. No doubt it'll be confirmed and proven in court)
(Now let's talk about the counter suit! Let's start a thread on that subject. You say the boot brothers have nothing to hide? Then why two law firms? Something brewing in Dodge if you ask me. Do you suggest they did nothing to interfere with IFUS? Do you suggest they haven't broken the law? If that's true, why would they get the boot? Why would the shareholders be waiting to go after them next? You appear to have direct-first hand information so I'd like specifics to each answer)
I think it's delisted
Like I've said, one is for the civil, the other's for the criminal. SA is on a no win situation and now his backstabbing, underhanded dirty illegal deeds are proven and he knows it. Good risk management and damage control and it's my guess he'll try to pay his way out of both. Wonder what he thinks his time and freedom is worth.....
Yuuuup I've been sayin it..."it's stroft"
Yes, be careful of the non committal words
Yep, Terravision dug the no bid pit their in now....didn't you read that on page 799 of the charmen filing?
"GNCP Gaming Inc." cracks me up. Gee, we couldn't be a mining company, let's try gaming." What's next restart Delorian...
I agree with you, but I think reality dictates with the lack of volume, only 6 million average past few days...investor confidence is dwindling faster than they can print
More converted shares it appears to me. Dump truck is fully loaded and ready to dump! They buy this gaming shell with a mountIan of GNCP shares that you have to compete with and that THEY control! The new shell will have shares to sell off too! Once this occurs, when the gaming business starts up, the shell absorbs the money. Like pr's in the past, they never live up to promises, make excuses and then post more garbage that's completely unverifiable!
Great investment
I agree. SA is in trouble and knows it. One firm is probably representing his impending financial losses, the other his impending criminal matters as a result of his greed, stupidity and criminal behaviour.
As I read through the side of the bias against MW and IFUS, the out and out false and misleading comments (with direct information coming from the booty boys) now seeing SA has two legal firms representing him, it's quite apparent to me these guys are quaking in their boots. SA knows he's in a no win situation so it's going to take two firms to try and minimise the damage, aka financial loss and jail time. I heard he showed up for the PV case. I hope he got a front row seat. IMHO there's only one reason why he showed up in court. But I'll leave that to my own speculation.
As a shareholder who thinks like a shark, these two guys wanted blood, but were stupid enough to put their own blood on the line. Now they're in the pool WITH the sharks and their fear is obvious. Rightfully so. They wanted to play for blood, they got it. And now, the sharks are hungry.
I don't speak for MW, IFUS or the other shareholders, only for myself. As I've said before, when IFUS is done with them, the shareholder sharks are next! SA your going to need two more firms! Get them ready!
Everyone is a con(vertible) to generate more shares and dump! Printing press is working overtime
My sell orders in at $134. When OXY announces share buy back and the sale of it's ME assets, completed reorg and new div, it'll leap to the $120's
Shareholder confidence dwindle to no bid and 6 mn vume. Nobody and 0 volume inevitable
Yeah with no expertise they've created this. Give me a break
Yeah they're quaking in their short boots! Please show us official correspondence from the company that verifies this. Cracks me up
Naaaa that's too easy. He needs to be rolled around in a wheel chair smelling his own shiza and unable to do anything about it.